CS: Target-info on in-the-ear hearing protection

2000-06-06 Thread nigel
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Please note that they are fine for 7.62, 5.56 and .22 rimfire, but I haven't >tried them with a high charge BP rifle yet, or shotgunning, so I don't know how >good they are for that. If they are fine for high velocity rifle, then they are fine for shotguns and BP rifle

CS: Pol-Luxembourg Nutter

2000-06-06 Thread nigel
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The movie was the brilliant nod to James Bond, starring Arnie, Art Malik and friends with three nukes and some very dodgy tricks with an Uzi on a staircase, called "True Lies". "When he said 'I do', he never said what he did!" The end of the film, where the terrorists ar

CS: Target-Shooting Schools

2000-06-06 Thread Stayangry
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am thinking of visiting one of the big civilian shooting academies in the US, either Gunsite, LFI or Thunder Ranch. Before I invest the cash, can anyone make a personal recommendation or give me an opinion on these places? Thanks, James -- Thunder Ranch has the b

CS: Pol-Canada

2000-06-06 Thread John Hurst
From: "John Hurst", [EMAIL PROTECTED] CANADIANS PREFER SELF DEFENSE TO CRAZY LAWS (Canadian gun owners are banding together to form a organization to be arrested together en masse for civil disobedience). Thoreau lives! Not in the United States, but in Canada. Gun owners there understand th

CS: Pol-Luxembourg Nutter

2000-06-06 Thread Hugh Bellars
From: "Hugh Bellars", [EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't know about a Schwarzenegger movie, but I remember the 'gun in the camera' gimmick being used in the excellent Irvin Kirshner 1970s espionage spoof S*P*Y*S, and more recently in 'The Bodyguard' with Kevin Costner. (I find it ironic that Costner i

CS: Pol-A mother sticks to her choice to keep a handgun handy

2000-06-06 Thread E.J. Totty
From: "E.J. Totty", [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tacoma News Tribune 06/04/2000 A mother sticks to her choice to keep a handgun handy Stephanie Madison There was a time when I believed having a gun in the same house where children reside was not only unsafe but was bordering on recklessness. Mothers sh

CS: Pol-Yellow Stars

2000-06-06 Thread E.J. Totty
From: "E.J. Totty", [EMAIL PROTECTED] >I read the rejection by Norman and Steve of my suggestion of wearing a >yellow star (not on an armband, though) on the day that the newspapers >report a case from Germany where anti-abortion campaigners are using the >slogan 'Holocaust then, Babycaust now'

CS: Legal-R v. Fegan

2000-06-06 Thread E.J. Totty
From: "E.J. Totty", [EMAIL PROTECTED] [...] "... It used to be considered an immutable point of orthodox doctrine that the government that absolves it's self of the obligation to provide for the defence of it's citizens also absolved them of their allegiance. This doctrine was v

CS: Pol-action by shooters

2000-06-06 Thread E.J. Totty
From: "E.J. Totty", [EMAIL PROTECTED] [...] Continuing with a definition first brought in by the Thatcher government to allow police to tap the phones of union members in the 1985 British miners' strike, the Bill specifically designates "conduct by a large number of persons in p

CS: Target-Shooting in France

2000-06-06 Thread Robert Sadler
From: "Robert Sadler", [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear Cybershooters, I'm off to France at the end of the week and was thinking that a little pistol shooting might be an option. I am staying in the northern Vendee near Les Sables d'Olonne. Does anyone have any info on clubs etc in the area and/or any o

CS: Pol-Full Cost Recovery

2000-06-06 Thread Paul & Ann Isherwood
From: "Paul & Ann Isherwood", [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yes, the police charge for traffic and crowd control at football matches and similar events, BUT the charge probably does not cover the full cost of the provision of officers for such duties. I must be the only guy you know who is able to brag th

CS: Pol-Full Cost Recovery

2000-06-06 Thread Martin
From: Martin Kay, [EMAIL PROTECTED] A charity raft race in the small town of Ellon near Aberdeen was last month threatened with a large policing bill, but this was withdrawn after significant adverse local publicity. This suggests to me that a principle of the organisers having to pay for a pol

CS: Legal-Arrest after airgun attack

2000-06-06 Thread Jack
From: "Jack", [EMAIL PROTECTED] We had an airgun attack here in my hometown (Greenville, Texas) last week. Seems this stupid 18 year old bought a BB pistol at Wal-Mart and proceeded to rob two convenience stores, one in Greenville, and one in Commerce, about 18 miles down the road. He was cha

CS: Legal-PC gave away pistol

2000-06-06 Thread Jonathan
From: Jonathan Spencer, [EMAIL PROTECTED] >GUN ROUND-UP Pc GAVE AWAY PISTOL, COURT TOLD > He has also pleaded not guilty to the theft of two other guns, The other two, it is argued, are antiques manufactured in the 19th century or, in any event, no later than 1916. --Jonathan Spencer, firea

CS: Pol-Yellow Stars

2000-06-06 Thread SIHarmon
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] << The message must be simple, clear, and appealing; the more of a jingle it is, the more memorable is will be, the more easily it will be remembered and repeated, and that is the intent: get the message out! At any rate, it needs to be simple, unique, instantly

CS: Target-Range approval

2000-06-06 Thread bob blake
From: "bob blake", [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Steve The French seem to have the right idea, they get the Insurance Companies to do the job, who better to assess the risk. Keep up the good work Bob Blake ---[Cybershooters contacts] Editor: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Website & subscript

CS: Misc-Exploding head collars

2000-06-06 Thread Nik Jones
From: "Nik Jones", [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nothing new - similar device used at the start of 'The Running Man' in the prison - another Big Arnie film. Do police agencies, etc watch these films for inspiration? If so, I'd like a go of that weapon he had in 'Eraser' - it fired aluminium shells at the s

CS: Pol-Police Costs

2000-06-06 Thread DavidHSquires
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Does anyone know whether the police charges football clubs for their presence during a match?<< Football clubs are charged for police presence. >>Does anyone know any (other) activities where the police feel they have to be involved, yet don't charge the organisers/t

CS: Target-Shooting Schools

2000-06-06 Thread Gregory
From: "Gregory", [EMAIL PROTECTED] Try 'American Small Arms Academy' (ASAA), run and founded by Chuck Taylor. Has bases in both Wallingford/Fairfield, Connecticut, USA and Prescott, Arizona, USA. Was Chief of Training Operations at Gunsite when Jeff Cooper ran it. He does "all" the 'Special

CS: Target-Shooting Schools

2000-06-06 Thread SIHarmon
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] You should contact the head of each and aske them about their philosophy of instruction and how they think about the issue of self defense. I have not attended Gunsite, and they are back to the Cooper style, if I read the magazines correctly. Thunder Ranch has come h

CS: Legal-Referee Form

2000-06-06 Thread Neil Roberts
From: "Neil Roberts", [EMAIL PROTECTED] Merseyside are also saying this. They attach a note to be given to the referee that says one word answers are not sufficient. Neil Roberts -- Well, it's their own fault, ACPO wrote all the forms (I have absolute proof in the form of a draft of the refer

CS: Target-Range Approval & guns on ships

2000-06-06 Thread Derek Bernard
From: "Derek Bernard", [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Please do tell... What 3? Does this include the one I heard about at > Tiddsley Wood, many years ago? The woman who got hit one yard INSIDE the > safety exclusion zone? > > Nigel Sorry! I did this research many years before starting to sort and file

CS: Legal-product liability

2000-06-06 Thread nick
From: nick royall, [EMAIL PROTECTED] A compendium of thoughts on California's interpretation of product liability laws for firearms. 1. Guns are obviously toys because they should have features to prevent injury by children to themselves so therefore cars and tin cans should be banned or made o

CS: Field-Edinburgh march

2000-06-06 Thread Heather
I hope that BASC will join the Countryside Alliance in backing this march - and hopefully get their wildfowling clubs to lay on some transport. If so, it would help to smooth some of the feathers which got ruffled over the national pigeon day debacle. Peter. -Original Message- From: He

CS: Pol-American Spectator article on England

2000-06-06 Thread Innocent
From: "Innocent", [EMAIL PROTECTED] "It's just as well Tom failed to catch up with the gang. Otherwise, the ensuing altercation might have resulted in the diminutive star being prosecuted for assault. In Britain, criminals, police, and magistrates are united in regarding any resistance by the v

CS: Target-hse and ranges

2000-06-06 Thread nick
From: nick royall, [EMAIL PROTECTED] An interesting concept, getting the HSE to look after range certification. On the minus side they are ill-equipped to do their existing work due to a lack of funding-the Tories wanted sweatshops so we could be "competitive" and also the fact that few ranges

CS: Target-Range Approval & guns on ships

2000-06-06 Thread Derek Bernard
From: "Derek Bernard", [EMAIL PROTECTED] > There have been several since then, what about that copper in the Met > who has had two ADs fired into him! > > Steve. As I saw it, the parameter of this particular thread was that the victim was outside the range; thus giving rise, at least superfici

CS: Pol-Full Cost Recovery

2000-06-06 Thread Richard Loweth
From: "Richard Loweth", [EMAIL PROTECTED] It used to be that the club paid for any and all police INSIDE the ground, but that any and all police OUTSIDE the ground (even if just two yards away from the turnstiles) came out of the ratepayers' pockets. Thus the move to stewards, now, inside the

CS: Target-Range Approval & guns on ships

2000-06-06 Thread Jeremy
From: Jeremy Peter Howells, [EMAIL PROTECTED] How do the nuclear fuel carrying ships fair then? They are British flagged and the last I heard they carried 20mm and 30mm cannon and sundry other things - they are also completely civilian. Regards Jerry -- Presumably BNFL have a firearm certifi

CS: Pol-what you have to believe to believe in gun control

2000-06-06 Thread Thomas
From: Thomas A Chandler, [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's Amazing What One Has To Believe...To Believe In Gun Control By Michael Z. Williamson c. 1999, 2000 That the more helpless you are, the safer you are from criminals. That you should give a mugger your wallet, because he doesn't really want to

CS: Legal-machinegun offence must be decided by jury

2000-06-06 Thread DOCIARDI
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] By RICHARD CARELLI Associated Press Writer WASHINGTON (June 5, 2000 11:07 a.m. EDT http://www.nandotimes.com) - The U.S. Supreme Court on Monday set aside the lengthy prison terms given to five Branch Davidians who survived a 1993 siege at the sect's Waco, Texas, co

CS: Misc-Dunkirk Three

2000-06-06 Thread norrb
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Meanwhile, up in the north with the main BEF forces, my uncle Jock was retreating towards Dunkirk... It appears that Viscount Gort, in charge of the BEF, had failed to stop the German thrust between the north of the French Maginot line and his forces on the Belgian bor

CS: Pol-Luxembourg Nutter

2000-06-06 Thread Paul
From: Paul Quilliam, [EMAIL PROTECTED] The film concerned was The Bodyguard. The bad guy had a gun and lazer pointer to aim in a TV camera. -- Obviously a fairly popular plot line. Plus I have seen .22s disguised as cameras so it's a pretty old idea. Steve. ---[Cybershooters contacts]

CS: Pol-poll

2000-06-06 Thread Steven Kendrick/UK
There is a poll at vote.com on gun licensing. Steve. ---[Cybershooters contacts] Editor: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Website & subscription info: www.cybershooters.org