Re: A secure voting protocol

2000-11-14 Thread Bill Stewart
At 05:53 PM 11/13/00 -0500, Declan McCullagh wrote: >On Mon, Nov 13, 2000 at 11:08:01AM -0800, Tim May wrote: >> A "vote at home" protocol is vulnerable to all sorts of mischief that >> has nothing to do with hackers intercepting the vote, blah blah. > >Righto. Absentee ballots require a witness,

Re: A secure voting protocol

2000-11-13 Thread Declan McCullagh
On Mon, Nov 13, 2000 at 02:41:14PM -0800, Tim May wrote: > At 5:53 PM -0500 11/13/00, Declan McCullagh wrote: > >On Mon, Nov 13, 2000 at 11:08:01AM -0800, Tim May wrote: > >> A "vote at home" protocol is vulnerable to all sorts of mischief that > >> has nothing to do with hackers intercepting th

Re: A secure voting protocol

2000-11-13 Thread Declan McCullagh
On Mon, Nov 13, 2000 at 03:07:40PM -0800, Tim May wrote: > > I did some more digging on various Florida sites which discuss > absentee ballots. > > It looks like Florida makes a clear distinction between what I'll > call "ordinary absentee ballots" and what I'll call "military > absentee ball

Re: A secure voting protocol

2000-11-13 Thread Tim May
I did some more digging on various Florida sites which discuss absentee ballots. It looks like Florida makes a clear distinction between what I'll call "ordinary absentee ballots" and what I'll call "military absentee ballots." Ordinary absentee ballots--students, tourists in Israel or Franc

Re: A secure voting protocol

2000-11-13 Thread Tim May
At 2:41 PM -0800 11/13/00, Tim May wrote: > >No mention of getting a witness, etc. > >I'll leave it for others to check on Florida, Idaho, etc. versions. > I just checked the Florida site, http://www.absenteeballot.net/Florida.htm, and found no mention whatsoever of requirements that someone wi

Re: A secure voting protocol

2000-11-13 Thread Tim May
At 5:53 PM -0500 11/13/00, Declan McCullagh wrote: >On Mon, Nov 13, 2000 at 11:08:01AM -0800, Tim May wrote: >> A "vote at home" protocol is vulnerable to all sorts of mischief that >> has nothing to do with hackers intercepting the vote, blah blah. > >Righto. Absentee ballots require a witness,

Re: A secure voting protocol

2000-11-13 Thread Declan McCullagh
On Mon, Nov 13, 2000 at 11:08:01AM -0800, Tim May wrote: > A "vote at home" protocol is vulnerable to all sorts of mischief that > has nothing to do with hackers intercepting the vote, blah blah. Righto. Absentee ballots require a witness, usually an officer (if you're in the military) or a nota

Re: A secure voting protocol

2000-11-13 Thread Tim May
At 6:42 PM + 11/13/00, Ken Brown wrote: >Augusto Jun Devegili replied to Tim May: > > >> > It won't happen in our lifetimes. It may happen in European nations, >> > but only because the average citizen does what he is told to do more >> > so than American paranoids and individualists will d

Re: A secure voting protocol

2000-11-11 Thread petro
Mr. May said: >At 4:19 PM -0800 11/11/00, petro wrote: >>> -- >>>At 03:11 PM 11/10/2000 -0800, Tim May wrote: Physical ballot voting has its problems, but at least people _understand_ the concept of marking a ballot, as opposed to "blinding the exponent of their elliptic

Re: A secure voting protocol

2000-11-11 Thread Tim May
At 4:19 PM -0800 11/11/00, petro wrote: >> -- >>At 03:11 PM 11/10/2000 -0800, Tim May wrote: >>> Physical ballot voting has its problems, but at least people >>> _understand_ the concept of marking a ballot, as opposed to >>> "blinding the exponent of their elliptic curve function and then

Re: A secure voting protocol

2000-11-11 Thread James A. Donald
-- At 03:11 PM 11/10/2000 -0800, Tim May wrote: > Physical ballot voting has its problems, but at least people > _understand_ the concept of marking a ballot, as opposed to > "blinding the exponent of their elliptic curve function and then > solving the discrete log problem for an n-out-o

Re: A secure voting protocol

2000-11-11 Thread Bill Stewart
At 05:47 AM 11/10/00 -0600, Jim Burnes wrote: >I envision a day (background music swelling and eyes tearing slightly -- >an obvious Oscar moment) when it matters little who the President-elect is, >because DC is bound and emasculated by its original constitutional chains. >The day when the Pres h

Re: A secure voting protocol

2000-11-10 Thread Tim May
At 9:40 PM -0200 11/10/00, Augusto Jun Devegili wrote: >- Original Message - >From: "Tim May" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> The problems with these protocols are obvious to all who have looked >> at these things over the years: > >> * most voters, at least 99% of them, will not understand or

Re: A secure voting protocol

2000-11-10 Thread Jim Burnes
On Fri, 10 Nov 2000, Tim May wrote: > At 2:46 PM -0800 11/10/00, Ray Dillinger wrote: > Physical ballot voting has its problems, but at least people > _understand_ the concept of marking a ballot, as opposed to "blinding > the exponent of their elliptic curve function and then solving the > discr

Re: A secure voting protocol

2000-11-10 Thread Tim May
At 2:46 PM -0800 11/10/00, Ray Dillinger wrote: >Okay, this information is old hat to most folk here - but >it seems relevant just now, and if the infrastructure had >been in place for this election, it could have saved us a >heck of a lot of trouble. > >An Election Protocol: Or, a way for people

A secure voting protocol

2000-11-10 Thread Ray Dillinger
Okay, this information is old hat to most folk here - but it seems relevant just now, and if the infrastructure had been in place for this election, it could have saved us a heck of a lot of trouble. Bear An Election Protocol: Or, a way for people in voting societ