And more from this "only TEENAGERS and adults" website...
"Recently, I showed a friend a photograph of myself and a
twelve-year-old boy with whom I was bonded years ago. We are standing
side by side with my arm around his shoulder, in what I would consider a
typical adult-child pose.
At 01:17 -0400 9/19/00, Jodi Hoffman wrote:
Kevin Elliott wrote:
Read the stupid website if you don't believe me www.nambla.de.
Here's a little something else I picked up from the same stupid website
(you know...the one you say only promotes sex between teenagers and
adults...)
My god! Did
On Sat, 16 Sep 2000, Jodi Hoffman wrote:
AIDS/HIV: $39,172.00
Diabetes: $ 5,449.00
Cancer: $ 3,776.00
Heart Disease: $ 1,056.00
Stroke: $ 765.00
What's wrong with this picture? You don't get cancer by engaging
in
If we are playing that game, I have 5000+ volumes here. All 5000 of them
AND my gorilla say that you are full of it.
That's "Orangutang".
No, Helena was in a different room at the time. It was most certainly
the Gorilla (and it is hard to make a mistake on such matters).
I can send photos
At 00:08 -0400 9/19/00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Betweens teenagers and adults?! You must have been perusing a NAMBLA website
from another world.
I'm sorry but you seem to be the one in another world. Read the
stupid website if you don't believe me www.nambla.de.
--
Kevin "The Cubbie"
Kevin Elliott wrote:
At 00:08 -0400 9/19/00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Betweens teenagers and adults?! You must have been perusing a NAMBLA website
from another world.
I'm sorry but you seem to be the one in another world. Read the
stupid website if you don't believe me www.nambla.de.
Kevin Elliott wrote:
At 00:08 -0400 9/19/00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Betweens teenagers and adults?! You must have been perusing a NAMBLA website
from another world.
I'm sorry but you seem to be the one in another world. Read the
stupid website if you don't believe me www.nambla.de.
Kevin Elliott wrote:
Read the stupid website if you don't believe me www.nambla.de.
Here's a little something else I picked up from the same stupid website
(you know...the one you say only promotes sex between teenagers and
adults...)
be boys with names like Jimmy Joey ~
Ok, you can reword are reiterate your claims. How about backing them up
with documentation? (if it's been 'reinforced' every year, it surely is not
secret and you must have some links to back up your claims)
BTW of your new ones:
1) Would you NOT have them available to all persons regardless of
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From: "Kevin Elliott" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
than the rest of NATO combined. HEll, ignoring
turkey we have more territory than the rest of NATO
combined!
Did the U.S. senate finally ratify the Canada Annexation Treaty?
Phillip Hallam-Baker wrote:
Jay:
I've given information which is readily available to anyone who
takes the time to investigate it.
But you have failled to provide information which should be
readily available to you if you are telling the truth.
You are the person who is making
Phillip Hallam-Baker wrote:
Jay:
I've given information which is readily available to anyone who
takes the time to investigate it.
But you have failled to provide information which should be
readily available to you if you are telling the truth.
You are the person who
By the way, if Jody only wants to fax the document,
and Petro only wants to receive it by email,
Petro can set up a JFAX.COM account which will
accept faxes and email them to him (as TIFF files.)
At 12:06 AM 9/15/00 -0700, petro wrote:
petro wrote:
Prove it.
Produce the
Jodi's fantasy world again.
Ok Jodi..document your claims
which 'march on Washington"
Please specifiy who made these 'demands' and the actual quotes involved
(not your imaginative paraphrases)
Of course, if your past behavior on this list is any indicator, statements
were wildly interpreted
In 1972 (the year before the APA unilaterally decided
homosexuality was "no longer an illness") the Gay Rights Platform was
drawn up at the convention of the National Coalition of Gay Organizers.
It was officially set forth at the Gay Pride March on Washington, D.C.
on April 25, 1993 and has
4) demand that Federal Defense budget funds be diverted to
cover AIDS patients' medical expenses...
The 1998 Federal Budget included $4.746 *BILLION* for AIDS
funding. That was a $465 million increase over the 1997 Budget, which
is more funding than all forms of cancer combined.
You don't approve of free speech.
You don't approve of freedom of religion.
You don't approve of the right to petition the government.
Tell me, Jodi, is there any part of the First Amendment you DO support?
You
know, Cuba is just a short swim from Florida. You'd like it there. No free
The military is currently cannibalizing everything it can
to keep as many units as it possibly can active.
If less of the 'defense' budget ended up spent on barracks
that serve no military purpose, planes that the Pentagon don't
want and gold plated research projects, there would be no
If it was 'officially set forth'
one would think you could produce quotes
rather than paraphrases.
And maybe name the correct organization.
(NCGO doesn't seem to exist, if Altavista is anything to go by)
Try looking under the protocols of the elders of Zion.
Phill
If it was 'officially set forth'
one would think you could produce quotes
rather than paraphrases.
And maybe name the correct organization.
(NCGO doesn't seem to exist, if Altavista is anything to go by)
Try looking under the protocols of the elders of Zion.
All of the gay
4) demand that Federal Defense budget funds be diverted to
cover AIDS patients' medical expenses...
The 1998 Federal Budget included $4.746 *BILLION* for AIDS
funding. That was a $465 million increase over the 1997 Budget, which
is more funding than all forms of cancer
McCullagh [EMAIL PROTECTED];
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Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 11:45 AM
Subject: Re: And you thought Nazi agitprop was controversial?
Jay Holovacs wrote:
You really don't seem to get it, defending the right
r 13, 2000 11:45 AM
Subject: Re: And you thought Nazi agitprop was controversial?
Jay Holovacs wrote:
You really don't seem to get it, defending the right to speech is NOT
the
same as defending the content (though I understand that nowhere do they
advocate violence t
Actually, she got shot at and roughed up
by AN members. (AN has a habit of disavowing relations
with members once they get in trouble with The Elders of Zion.)
This woman and her daughter just "happened" to be far from home, out
near the AN compound, and their car, they claim, just
Phill Hallam-Baker writes:
The problem with the KKK, AN and other groups of thugs isn't what they say,
it is what they do - beat people up.
As for being PC, can anyone explain how an organization could
be less tollerant of opposing views than the AN?
Perhaps not less tolerant, but certainly
3, 2000 11:45 AM
Subject: Re: And you thought Nazi agitprop was controversial?
Jay Holovacs wrote:
You really don't seem to get it, defending the right to speech is NOT
the
same as defending the content (though I understand that nowhere do they
advocate violence t
petro wrote:
You are wrong to protect them without knowing what they're about, Jay.
Their motto is, "Sex before eight, or it's too late." They are
referring to grown men having sex with an under-eight year old little
boy. Surely you don't mean to suggest that a website promoting
Jodi Hoffman wrote:
If you're serious, send it. We own a law firm. Furthermore, a lot of
the cases we handle are pro bono, especially when children are involved.
You "own" a law firm, eh? Big surprise there.
Jodi Hoffman writes:
Declan McCullagh forwards:
Frisoli, the Curley lawyer, has been making very outrageous and
false statements about what was on the web site. Because the media
has no access to the site, no one can contradict him. ... Printed
material from NAMBLA is difficult to find.
At 03:11 AM 9/13/00 -0400, Jodi Hoffman wrote:
I knew there was a reason I printed out NAMBLA's website
throughout the years. Maybe I should contact this child's parents as
well as their attorney. Maybe you should do the same. Maybe you really
are a member of NAMBLA. It certainly
Lizard wrote:
At 03:11 AM 9/13/00 -0400, Jodi Hoffman wrote:
I knew there was a reason I printed out NAMBLA's website
throughout the years. Maybe I should contact this child's parents as
well as their attorney. Maybe you should do the same. Maybe you really
are a member of
Colin Rafferty wrote:
Jodi Hoffman writes:
Declan McCullagh forwards:
Frisoli, the Curley lawyer, has been making very outrageous and
false statements about what was on the web site. Because the media
has no access to the site, no one can contradict him. ... Printed
material from
At 10:56 AM 9/13/00 -0400, Jodi Hoffman wrote:
Ah, the Lizard slinks to the support of child rapists and
murderers.
Nope, only to the support of those who advocate it, just like I support
your right to free speech. I daresay you're much more dangerous to children
than any NAMBLA
: And you thought Nazi agitprop was controversial?
Ah, the Lizard slinks to the support of child rapists and
murderers. Don't sacrifice my child on the altar of the First
Amendment, Liz. I'm sure if it were your son, you would feel
differently.
: Declan McCullagh [EMAIL PROTECTED];
[EMAIL PROTECTED];
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 10:56 AM
Subject: Re: And you thought Nazi agitprop was controversial?
Ah, the Lizard slinks to the support of child rapists and
murderers. Don't sacrifice my child
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Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 10:56 AM
Subject: Re: And you thought Nazi agitprop was controversial?
Ah, the Lizard slinks to the support of child rapists and
murderers. Don't sacrifice my child on the altar of the First
Amendment, Liz
At 11:27 AM -0400 9/13/00, Jay Holovacs wrote:
You really don't seem to get it, defending the right to speech is NOT the
same as defending the content (though I understand that nowhere do they
advocate violence to children)
Remember, Jodi, the *same* law that should be protecting their speech
At 11:27 AM -0400 9/13/00, Jay Holovacs wrote:
You really don't seem to get it, defending the right to speech is NOT the
same as defending the content (though I understand that nowhere do they
advocate violence to children)
Remember, Jodi, the *same* law that should be protecting their
[A veteran free speech activist in Cambridge, Mass. sent me this. Any
offers of mirroring should go to the list, where I assume they'll be duly
forwarded. I wonder how long the HTML files in question here would last on
a Geocities/etc account. --Declan]
Did Curley's lawyers at least
I knew there was a reason I printed out NAMBLA's website
throughout the years. Maybe I should contact this child's parents as
well as their attorney. Maybe you should do the same. Maybe you really
You definitely should.
A quick email from anybody on this list and your printouts
At 4:57 PM -0400 9/13/00, Omri Schwarz wrote:
At 11:27 AM -0400 9/13/00, Jay Holovacs wrote:
You really don't seem to get it, defending the right to speech is NOT the
same as defending the content (though I understand that nowhere do they
advocate violence to children)
Remember,
TED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 11:45 AM
Subject: Re: And you thought Nazi agitprop was controversial?
Jay Holovacs wrote:
You really don't seem to get it, defending the right to speech is NOT
the
same as defending the content (though I understand that nowhere do they
advocat
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