Re: SF Internet self-defense course

2000-08-31 Thread Bill Stewart
At 01:11 PM 8/29/00 +0200, Tom Vogt wrote: Tim May wrote: are you required to provide your private keys to an enemy (e.g. someone who is sueing you) ? .. I expect 95% or more of all encryption is done at the transport layer, i.e., for transmission. Most peoplee, I surmise, keep their

Re: SF Internet self-defense course

2000-08-29 Thread Tom Vogt
Tim May wrote: are you required to provide your private keys to an enemy (e.g. someone who is sueing you) ? The lawyers and lawyer larvae can comment better than I can. I believe the answer is "yes, documents must be in usable form by your ex-wife's lawyers," for example. This probably

Re: SF Internet self-defense course

2000-08-28 Thread Tim May
At 12:09 PM +0200 8/28/00, Tom Vogt wrote: Tim May wrote: Who uses crypto on a regular basis are those for whom the risks of getting caught with certain material or certain thoughts are nonzero, and for whom the penalties are significant. The usual examples: freedom fighters plotting to

Re: SF Internet self-defense course

2000-08-28 Thread Tom Vogt
Tim May wrote: Who uses crypto on a regular basis are those for whom the risks of getting caught with certain material or certain thoughts are nonzero, and for whom the penalties are significant. The usual examples: freedom fighters plotting to blow up government buildings, child

Re: Re: SF Internet self-defense course

2000-08-26 Thread petro
Mr. May: someone: (While I don't think it is possible, I'm eager to hear ideas on how an anonymous physical gathering could be planned and executed with the public in attendance, while preserving the anonymity of the organizers. Venue should be irrelevant, because all the attendees should be able

Re: Re: SF Internet self-defense course

2000-08-26 Thread petro
Fact is, "ordinary people" are not in any significant danger of having their e-mail or files intercepted and read by "ripoff artists, criminals, and spies." Next-door neighbors and other non-governmental entities rarely have access to packet sniffers, Carnivore-type intercept systems, or

Re: SF Internet self-defense course

2000-08-26 Thread Matt Curtin
"Tim" == Tim May [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Tim Who uses crypto on a regular basis are those for whom the risks Tim of getting caught with certain material or certain thoughts are Tim nonzero, and for whom the penalties are significant. I don't know how often this is true, but it's

Re: Re: SF Internet self-defense course

2000-08-25 Thread Tim May
At 12:25 PM -0700 8/24/00, Ray Dillinger wrote: On Wed, 23 Aug 2000, Tim May wrote: Having Cypherpunks meetings inside the belly of the beast may strike some as a great irony, but it was what Mike the Computer would call a "funny once." I strongly, strongly urge Cypherpunks to "just say no" to

Re: SF Internet self-defense course

2000-08-24 Thread A. Melon
Sassaman said: Please explain to me how you could have a public gathering of anonymous individuals. I don't think that it is possible to do what is being proposed: plan, anonymously, a gathering of people organized on the Internet and conducted in physical space. Do this in such a way that no

Re: SF Internet self-defense course

2000-08-24 Thread Anonymous
Tim, do you think that rubbing shoulders with police is too high price to pay for getting, say, hundred people to use crypto ? Of course. Who the fuck cares, or should care, if 100 of the sheeple start using crypto? What are we, bleeding heart altruists? Tim, what did you do lately ? I've

Re: SF Internet self-defense course

2000-08-24 Thread Tim May
At 11:00 AM -0700 8/24/00, Anonymous wrote: Tim, what did you do lately ? I've been following this list for several years now, and apart from "needs killing" kind of rant I've never seen anything else from you. And what I've seen from "Anonymous," at least your probable instance of it, is

Re: SF Internet self-defense course

2000-08-24 Thread An Metet
Straight Ray rote: Mister Tim, I have to say I don't agree with you. I don't see the Cypherpunks list as an association of criminals. I don't have a problem with the idea of teaching ordinary people to use crypto to protect themselves from ripoff artists, criminals, and spies. I see the

Re: SF Internet self-defense course

2000-08-23 Thread Anonymous
I'm available to speak. I just have to wonder if the sheeple will care enough to make this worth while... but I am willing to try. Good. BTW, it just occurred to me that logistics of anonymous organizing of meatspace events are quite peculiar. I could sign my posts (and later on say: "*I* get