Re: America the Damned

2001-11-09 Thread Nomen Nescio
http://law2.house.gov/uscode-cgi/fastweb.exe?getdoc+uscview+t17t20+1050+18++%28sedition%29 U.S. Code Title 18, Chapter 115: Sec. 2384. Seditious conspiracy If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire

Re: CDR: Re: Security-by-credential or security-by-inspection

2001-11-09 Thread F. Marc de Piolenc
Tim May wrote: I would like to read these papers. Are they available on-line? If they are, search engines will very likely have indexed them. I would do the search for you, but your retainer has expired. Just thought you might know offhand. Search engines it is... Marc de Piolenc

WashPost: DoJ to monitor lawyer's calls

2001-11-09 Thread Karsten M. Self
Pointer from Dan Gillmor's SJMerc column. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A64663-2001Nov8.html U.S. Will Monitor Calls to Lawyers Rule on Detainees Called 'Terrifying' By George Lardner Jr. Washington Post Staff Writer Friday, November 9, 2001; Page A01 The

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Re: America the Damned

2001-11-09 Thread John Young
Nomen Nescio wrote: It was only when Tim May turned away from cryptography and shifted his focus to firearms and Y2K and violent fantasies of revenge that the tone of the group changed. It is very likely that many of his writings fit the definition above, being made with intent to cause the

Slashdot | IBM Crypto Up For Grabs?

2001-11-09 Thread Jim Choate
http://slashdot.org/articles/01/11/09/008229.shtml -- -- Day by day the Penguins are making me lose my mind. Bumper Sticker The Armadillo Group

FT.com | TotalSearch | Global Archive | Article - German government faces collapse over war

2001-11-09 Thread Jim Choate
http://globalarchive.ft.com/globalarchive/article.html?id=011109001089 -- -- Day by day the Penguins are making me lose my mind. Bumper Sticker The

Clinton calls terror a U.S. debt to past -- The Washington Times

2001-11-09 Thread Jim Choate
http://www.washtimes.com/national/20011108-470100.htm -- -- Day by day the Penguins are making me lose my mind. Bumper Sticker The Armadillo Group

more on Nancy Oden

2001-11-09 Thread Anonymous
british males call eachother cunts all the time. i'm not sure if this is related. - Original Message - From: Sandy Sandfort [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Reese [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 5:51 PM Subject: RE: more on Nancy Oden That's nonsense.

[EMED-L] abuse of ed's (fwd)

2001-11-09 Thread measl
Another not-so-benign view of national ID cards, brought to you by lamer with a license. -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Forwarded message -- Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 10:31:27 -0500 From: owen bunnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: EMED-L -- a list for emergency

Re: CDR: RE: FBI wants to believe in domestic terrorists.

2001-11-09 Thread measl
[EMAIL PROTECTED][SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: If the anthrax attack is internal, then they are in charge and they get to spy on all us right wing extremist hate groups. I may be a hate group, but I am NOT a _right wing_ hate group. -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If

US psyops uses Napster to steal music for broadcast

2001-11-09 Thread Alfred Qaeda
http://www.msnbc.com/news/654592.asp?cp1=1 He [Sgt in 4th psyops group] has downloaded hundreds more tunes from Internet sites that specialize in Afghan music. No, I don't know that Atheists should be considered as citizens, nor should they be considered patriots. This is one nation under

The Republican Position on USC T 18 Ch 115 Sec 2383ff

2001-11-09 Thread mmotyka
What a guy! Abraham Lincoln : Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing Government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it or their revolutionary right to dismember or overthrow it. President Abraham Lincoln, First Inaugural Address (available at

Government Grants Are For Real!!!!

2001-11-09 Thread e13019
Government Grants E-Book You Can Receive The Money You Need... Every day millions of dollars are given away to people, just like you!! Your Government spends billions of tax dollars on government grants. Do you know that private foundations, trust and corporations are required to give away a

Re: obit

2001-11-09 Thread Steve Furlong
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tim, Re: the death of the fourth. Yer list is too short. R.I.P. : I, IV, V, VI, VIII Don't forget IX and X. Or maybe they're not dead, just locked away and ignored. And XXVII (Congressional Pay), which was ignored immediately after ratification. -- Steve

RE: The Republican Position on USC T 18 Ch 115 Sec 2383ff

2001-11-09 Thread Trei, Peter
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED][SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] What a guy! Abraham Lincoln : Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing Government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it or their revolutionary right to dismember or overthrow it. President Abraham

Re: The Republican Position on USC T 18 Ch 115 Sec 2383ff

2001-11-09 Thread mmotyka
OK, you got me, so I'm guilty of that political trick of ignoring the broader picture and using only partial facts in support of my own narrow point of view. sosumi ;) The words, taken on their own, are fine words and I stick by the bit about a government's willingness to persecute dissidents

Re: America the Damned

2001-11-09 Thread keyser-soze
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their

Re: Security-by-credential or security-by-inspection

2001-11-09 Thread Incognito Innominatus
Marc de Piolenc wrote: Tim May wrote: Nomen Nescio and others should read Chaum's Credentials without identity papers. A true name is just another credential, not necessarily more important than any of several other credentials. People should think deeply about this issue. I would like

RE: America the Beautiful

2001-11-09 Thread Aimee Farr
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] I suggest if you find expression of such logical sentiment objectionable that you leave the list. Can't we just object? I object. Said objection is now a part of the record.

Re: US psyops uses Napster to steal music for broadcast

2001-11-09 Thread Steve Thompson
Quoting Alfred Qaeda ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): He [Sgt in 4th psyops group] has downloaded hundreds more tunes from Internet sites that specialize in Afghan music. Was he downloading from Napster while he was on duty, or when he was off-duty? No, I don't know that Atheists should be

SF Bay Area Cypherpunks, November 10, 2001, San Francisco

2001-11-09 Thread Bill Stewart
See http://cryptorights.org/cypherpunks/meetingpunks.html for SF, Toronto, Bangalore Cypherpunks announcements. SF Bay Area Cypherpunks November 2001 Physical Meeting Announcement General Info: DATE: Saturday 10 November 2001 TIME: 1-5 PM (Pacific Time) LOCATION: San Francisco Foundation,

RE: America the Beautiful

2001-11-09 Thread measl
On Fri, 9 Nov 2001, Aimee Farr wrote: Welcome back Gordon. -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the

Black Unicorn's talk at Saturday's meeting

2001-11-09 Thread Bill Stewart
In Part One of Squeezing the Jello we covered the basics of the production of Cocaine HCl. We touched on the economic incentives to produce cocaine, down to the level of the peasant farmer. We also introduced some of the major players in the Medellin and Cali Cartels based in Columbia, examined

A Simple Plan ( Re: explosives )

2001-11-09 Thread mmotyka
matt . [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : Science project? omg shut the hell up. For all we know, your probably some crazed arab going on a suicide spree By the name perhaps a Basque Separatist is more likely. From: coretta fontenot [EMAIL PROTECTED] How can I make an explosive? its cause that's my

Re: A Simple Plan ( Re: explosives )

2001-11-09 Thread Dr. Evil
From: coretta fontenot [EMAIL PROTECTED] How can I make an explosive? its cause that's my science project It's a fairly simple process really. I have an even simpler process: 1. Go to the supermarket. You will need the following it: Five large cans of refried beans, a piece of

Re: Security-by-credential or security-by-inspection

2001-11-09 Thread Greg Broiles
At 01:10 AM 11/9/2001 +0100, Nomen Nescio wrote: [...] A few other irrelevant points have been made. Given that ID is not perfectly reliable, do we need to tattoo numbers on people's forearms? This is the fallacy of perfection. ID can be combined with a simple thumbprint for biometric

1st ve vill torture you,then burn down your home town

2001-11-09 Thread mattd
When your torture and mass deportation policies inspire resistance then reprisals for assasinations are inevitable. Subject: french resistance Martyred Village : Commemorating the 1944 Massacre at Oradour-Sur-Glane by Sarah Farmer Paperback - 300 pages (July 2000) Univ California Press; ISBN: