Re: Sources and Sinks

2004-01-09 Thread ken
James A. Donald wrote: -- On 3 Jan 2004 at 8:09, Michael Kalus wrote: Yes, the way this usually works is that the government builds the road, then sells it to a private company for some money and then the upkeep is handled by the company. It is rather seldom that someone builds a road for a

Re: Sources and Sinks

2004-01-05 Thread Declan McCullagh
On Fri, Jan 02, 2004 at 08:07:37AM -0500, Michael Kalus wrote: Replace Government with Society and you're getting somewhere. Where will your brand new sports car go when you don't have a road to drive on? Who will pay the cops when there are no taxes being collected? These questions have

Re: Sources and Sinks

2004-01-04 Thread Nostradumbass
From: bgt [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Sat, 2004-01-03 at 07:09, Michael Kalus wrote: Where there is no governmental police force, their is demand for private enforcement. And you know what? They regularly do their jobs better than the police. Of course there is no oversight body, so if

Re: Sources and Sinks

2004-01-04 Thread Steve Schear
At 01:50 PM 1/3/2004, James A. Donald wrote: -- On 3 Jan 2004 at 8:09, Michael Kalus wrote: Yes, the way this usually works is that the government builds the road, then sells it to a private company for some money and then the upkeep is handled by the company. It is rather seldom that

Sources and Sinks

2004-01-04 Thread Tim May
The jabber about how poor people are actually paying for the successful is beyond belief. All sorts of arguments are being made about how poor people somehow pay for the infrastructure the wealthy exploit. And the chestnut about how tax breaks aid the wealth disproportionately is once again

Re: Sources and Sinks

2004-01-04 Thread Michael Kalus
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 This is why the Tax Freedom Day approach is more useful. Tax freedom day is of course the day when the average American or Brit or whatever has stopped working for the government and has the rest of his income for himself. For most years, this

Re: Sources and Sinks

2004-01-04 Thread James A. Donald
-- On 3 Jan 2004 at 8:09, Michael Kalus wrote: Yes, the way this usually works is that the government builds the road, then sells it to a private company for some money and then the upkeep is handled by the company. It is rather seldom that someone builds a road for a business venture.

Re: Sources and Sinks

2004-01-04 Thread Michael Kalus
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ever heard of toll roads? Yes, those things you drive on and pay for their use. They work quite well in many of the socialist European countries so they ought to work in the land of the free too. Yes, the way this usually works is that the

Re: Sources and Sinks

2004-01-04 Thread Nostradumbass
From: bgt [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Sat, 2004-01-03 at 07:09, Michael Kalus wrote: Where there is no governmental police force, their is demand for private enforcement. And you know what? They regularly do their jobs better than the police. Of course there is no oversight body, so if

Re: Sources and Sinks

2004-01-04 Thread bgt
On Sat, 2004-01-03 at 07:09, Michael Kalus wrote: Where there is no governmental police force, their is demand for private enforcement. And you know what? They regularly do their jobs better than the police. Of course there is no oversight body, so if they use excessive force well,

Re: Sources and Sinks

2004-01-04 Thread Steve Schear
At 01:50 PM 1/3/2004, James A. Donald wrote: -- On 3 Jan 2004 at 8:09, Michael Kalus wrote: Yes, the way this usually works is that the government builds the road, then sells it to a private company for some money and then the upkeep is handled by the company. It is rather seldom that

If you drive, you're a slave (Re: Sources and Sinks)

2004-01-04 Thread Major Variola (ret)
At 08:09 AM 1/3/04 -0500, Michael Kalus wrote: Yes, the way this usually works is that the government builds the road, then sells it to a private company for some money and then the upkeep is handled by the company. It is rather seldom that someone builds a road for a business venture. Come

Re: Sources and Sinks

2004-01-04 Thread Tim May
On Jan 1, 2004, at 8:26 PM, Justin wrote: Tim May (2004-01-02 02:42Z) wrote: Bob, a crack addict collecting disability or welfare or other government freebies, works 0% of his time for the government/society. (Dat not true. I gots to stands in line to get my check increased!) Do those who have

Re: Sources and Sinks

2004-01-04 Thread Justin
Tim May (2004-01-02 02:42Z) wrote: Bob, a crack addict collecting disability or welfare or other government freebies, works 0% of his time for the government/society. (Dat not true. I gots to stands in line to get my check increased!) Do those who have previously been in the workforce, in

Re: Sources and Sinks

2004-01-04 Thread Justin
Tim May (2004-01-02 05:46Z) wrote: On Jan 1, 2004, at 8:26 PM, Justin wrote: Do those who have previously been in the workforce, in your opinion, have the right to reclaim through welfare any amount up to that they've paid through taxes to the entity providing welfare/unemployment? Or is

If you drive, you're a slave (Re: Sources and Sinks)

2004-01-03 Thread Major Variola (ret)
At 08:09 AM 1/3/04 -0500, Michael Kalus wrote: Yes, the way this usually works is that the government builds the road, then sells it to a private company for some money and then the upkeep is handled by the company. It is rather seldom that someone builds a road for a business venture. Come

Re: Sources and Sinks

2004-01-03 Thread James A. Donald
-- On 3 Jan 2004 at 8:09, Michael Kalus wrote: Yes, the way this usually works is that the government builds the road, then sells it to a private company for some money and then the upkeep is handled by the company. It is rather seldom that someone builds a road for a business venture.

Re: Sources and Sinks

2004-01-03 Thread bgt
On Sat, 2004-01-03 at 07:09, Michael Kalus wrote: Where there is no governmental police force, their is demand for private enforcement. And you know what? They regularly do their jobs better than the police. Of course there is no oversight body, so if they use excessive force well,

Re: Sources and Sinks

2004-01-02 Thread Justin
Tim May (2004-01-02 05:46Z) wrote: On Jan 1, 2004, at 8:26 PM, Justin wrote: Do those who have previously been in the workforce, in your opinion, have the right to reclaim through welfare any amount up to that they've paid through taxes to the entity providing welfare/unemployment? Or is

Re: Sources and Sinks

2004-01-01 Thread Justin
Tim May (2004-01-02 02:42Z) wrote: Bob, a crack addict collecting disability or welfare or other government freebies, works 0% of his time for the government/society. (Dat not true. I gots to stands in line to get my check increased!) Do those who have previously been in the workforce, in

Sources and Sinks

2004-01-01 Thread Tim May
The jabber about how poor people are actually paying for the successful is beyond belief. All sorts of arguments are being made about how poor people somehow pay for the infrastructure the wealthy exploit. And the chestnut about how tax breaks aid the wealth disproportionately is once again

Re: Sources and Sinks

2004-01-01 Thread Tim May
On Jan 1, 2004, at 8:26 PM, Justin wrote: Tim May (2004-01-02 02:42Z) wrote: Bob, a crack addict collecting disability or welfare or other government freebies, works 0% of his time for the government/society. (Dat not true. I gots to stands in line to get my check increased!) Do those who have