Quantum Loop Gravity Be For Whitey

2004-01-01 Thread Eric Cordian
Tim May observes: Meanwhile, the black folk kept listening to Rev. Jess Jackson and Rev. Al Sharpton tell them that they were owed reparations, that they were owed a series of entitlements. No suprise that a large fraction of negro teens subscribe to the view that reading be for whitey. In

Re: Quantum Loop Gravity Be For Whitey

2004-01-01 Thread Mikko Särelä
On Thu, 1 Jan 2004, Eric Cordian wrote: In the real world, a society can not consist 100% of chip designers. It also requires cooks, toilet and floor scrubbers, and people who lug concrete in wheelbarrows up stairs. Sure, those are still needed. Though I wouldn't be so sure that toilet and

Re: [camram-spam] Re: Microsoft publicly announces Penny Black PoW postage project

2004-01-01 Thread Alan Brown
On Tue, 30 Dec 2003, Bill Stewart wrote: The reason it's partly a cryptographic problem is forgeries. Once everybody starts whitelisting, spammers are going to start forging headers to pretend to come from big mailing lists and popular machines and authors, so now you'll not only need to

Re: [camram-spam] Re: Microsoft publicly announces Penny Black PoW postage project

2004-01-01 Thread Eric S. Johansson
Richard Clayton wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 30 Dec 2003, Eric S. Johansson wrote: But using your spam size, , the slowdown factor becomes roughly 73 times. So they would need 73 machines running full tilt all the time to regain their old throughput. Believe

Re: [camram-spam] Re: Microsoft publicly announces Penny Black PoW postage project

2004-01-01 Thread Alan Brown
On Thu, 1 Jan 2004, Eric S. Johansson wrote: the easynet.nl list (recently demised) listed nearly 700K machines that had been detected (allegedly) sending spam... so since their detection was not universal it would certainly be more than 700K :( that is a nasty bit of news. I'll run some

RE: Quantum Loop Gravity Be For Whitey

2004-01-01 Thread Tyler Durden
Well I be darned if Mr May hasn't inspired a major burst of eloquence, between this response and Mr Young's. As for this comment: Schools don't educate, but merely serve as a filter for employers to locate those individuals who aren't going to make trouble at the factory. At best. In the inner

Re: [camram-spam] Re: Microsoft publicly announces Penny Black PoW postage project

2004-01-01 Thread James A. Donald
-- Alan Brown wrote: I just hope you're right about the CPUs burning up - it doesn't happen when machines are running OGR calculations, so I suspect that you just ran into a particularly badly built example. Eric S. Johansson no, it was a stock Intel motherboard, CPU, CPU fan in a

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Re: [camram-spam] Re: Microsoft publicly announces Penny Black PoW postage project

2004-01-01 Thread Eric S. Johansson
Alan Brown wrote: They are currently tracking around 1.5 million compromised machines. *ouch*. on 24x7 both power and connectivity? The Swen and blaster worms install various spamware and backdoors. These have been estimated to have infected millions of machines worldwide and later versions

Skeptical about claim that stamp creation burns out modern CPUs

2004-01-01 Thread Tim May
On Jan 1, 2004, at 8:13 AM, Eric S. Johansson wrote: actually, we mean burned literally. the stamp creation process raises the temperature of the CPU. Most systems are not build for full tilt computational load. They do not have the ventilation necessary for reliable operation. So, they may

Re: Vengeance Libertarianism and Hot Black Chicks

2004-01-01 Thread Tim May
On Dec 31, 2003, at 5:53 PM, Tyler Durden wrote: PS: Is there any comment that Mr May would like to profer on the issue of having been rejected by some hot black tail back in the day? (ie, aside from I'd like to see you are your infant children stripped of epidermis and dipped in seasalt)

Re: Quantum Loop Gravity Be For Whitey

2004-01-01 Thread Tim May
On Jan 1, 2004, at 8:51 AM, Tyler Durden wrote: I'll tell you a story. Back in the late 1980s I taught at a notorious HS in Bedford Stuyvesant. 90% of my students were black. I regarded few of them as stupid, but almost none of them saw the point of studying math...they just didn't see how it

Re: Skeptical about claim that stamp creation burns out modern CPUs

2004-01-01 Thread Riad S. Wahby
Tim May [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now I grant you that I haven't tested CPUs in this way in many years. But I am skeptical that recent CPUs are substantially different than past CPUs. I would like to see some actual reports of burned literally CPUs. I've never seen a burned literally CPU,

Re: Quantum Loop Gravity Be For Whitey

2004-01-01 Thread Tyler Durden
Tim May wrote... First, please stop including the full text of the message you are replying to. Learn to use an editor, whether you ultimately top-post or bottom-post to edited fragments. I actually do this for a reason. If I'm not doing a line-by-line response (or sometimes even if I am), I

Re: Quantum Loop Gravity Be For Whitey

2004-01-01 Thread Tim May
On Jan 1, 2004, at 12:50 PM, Tyler Durden wrote: Tim May wrote... First, please stop including the full text of the message you are replying to. Learn to use an editor, whether you ultimately top-post or bottom-post to edited fragments. I actually do this for a reason. If I'm not doing a

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Re: Skeptical about claim that stamp creation burns out modern CPUs

2004-01-01 Thread Tim May
On Jan 1, 2004, at 11:56 AM, Riad S. Wahby wrote: Tim May [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now I grant you that I haven't tested CPUs in this way in many years. But I am skeptical that recent CPUs are substantially different than past CPUs. I would like to see some actual reports of burned literally

Re: Skeptical about claim that stamp creation burns out modern CPUs

2004-01-01 Thread James A. Donald
-- On 1 Jan 2004 at 10:44, Tim May wrote: Further, junction-to-case temperature in a ceramic package has a time constant of tens of seconds, meaning, the case temperature reaches something like 98% of its equilibrium value (as wattage reaches, say, 60 watts, or whatever), in tens of

Re: Skeptical about claim that stamp creation burns out modern CPUs

2004-01-01 Thread Tim May
On Jan 1, 2004, at 2:35 PM, Eric S. Johansson wrote: Tim May wrote: I'm skeptical of this claim. A lot of Intel and AMD and similar machines are running full-tilt, 24/7. To wit, Beowulf-type clusters, the Macintosh G5 cluster that is now rated third fasted in the world, and so on. None of

Re: Vengeance Libertarianism

2004-01-01 Thread Anatoly Vorobey
On Wed, Dec 31, 2003 at 01:14:01PM -0600, Harmon Seaver wrote: On Wed, Dec 31, 2003 at 01:59:50PM -0500, Sunder wrote: If those are your beliefs, then by all means, set the first example, and go kill yourself. Better yet, sacrifice yourself to your goddess... By doing so, you'll also earn

Re: Quantum Loop Gravity Be For Whitey

2004-01-01 Thread Tyler Durden
Tim May wrote... Because the Jews and negroes have demanded that all students be taught stuff they obviously will never use. Most inner city mutants should be taught practical skills, not abstract stuff their previous education has been bereft of. Well, I don't know who's responsible, but

Re: Quantum Loop Gravity Be For Whitey

2004-01-01 Thread J.A. Terranson
On Thu, 1 Jan 2004, Tyler Durden wrote: a whole lot of really good points elided As you can probably tell, I've never read many secondary or tertiary sources. I have a very hard time believeing that anyone would consider VN a secondary or tertiary source. (ie, as a physicist I've always

Re: Quantum Loop Gravity Be For Whitey

2004-01-01 Thread J.A. Terranson
Tim May wrote... In conclusion, your Bedford-Stuy student who doesn't see the point to studying math will never be a math researcher, or a physicist, or a chemist, or anything else of that sort. So no point in trying to convince him to study his math. Why the BedSty student Tim? This is

Re: Sources and Sinks

2004-01-01 Thread Justin
Tim May (2004-01-02 02:42Z) wrote: Bob, a crack addict collecting disability or welfare or other government freebies, works 0% of his time for the government/society. (Dat not true. I gots to stands in line to get my check increased!) Do those who have previously been in the workforce, in

Re: Quantum Loop Gravity Be For Whitey

2004-01-01 Thread Riad S. Wahby
J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why the BedSty student Tim? Uhh, read more carefully. He was responding to a specific point from Tyler Durden. You have some incredible moments of lucidity and insight, and occasionally, we are the lucky recipients of these fleeting events - but then,

Re: Quantum Loop Gravity Be For Whitey

2004-01-01 Thread Tim May
I'll comment on the sociology after commenting on the physics: (actually, looking over your sociology, I see it's just more of the liberal whine and sleaze, so I won't bother commenting on it again) On Jan 1, 2004, at 6:34 PM, Tyler Durden wrote: Tim May wrote... Then your education in

Sources and Sinks

2004-01-01 Thread Tim May
The jabber about how poor people are actually paying for the successful is beyond belief. All sorts of arguments are being made about how poor people somehow pay for the infrastructure the wealthy exploit. And the chestnut about how tax breaks aid the wealth disproportionately is once again

Re: Quantum Loop Gravity Be For Whitey

2004-01-01 Thread Thomas Shaddack
On Thu, 1 Jan 2004, Tim May wrote: A few moments of thought will show the connection between replicators and general assemblers. A general assembler can make another general assembler, hence all general assemblers are replicators. And in fact this is necessary to make mechanosynthesis

Re: Quantum Loop Gravity Be For Whitey

2004-01-01 Thread Tim May
On Jan 1, 2004, at 7:44 PM, Thomas Shaddack wrote: On Thu, 1 Jan 2004, Tim May wrote: A few moments of thought will show the connection between replicators and general assemblers. A general assembler can make another general assembler, hence all general assemblers are replicators. And in fact

Re: Sources and Sinks

2004-01-01 Thread Tim May
On Jan 1, 2004, at 8:26 PM, Justin wrote: Tim May (2004-01-02 02:42Z) wrote: Bob, a crack addict collecting disability or welfare or other government freebies, works 0% of his time for the government/society. (Dat not true. I gots to stands in line to get my check increased!) Do those who have

Re: Singers jailed for lyrics

2004-01-01 Thread Nostradumbass
At 05:19 PM 12/31/2003, John Kelsey wrote: In the most morally neutral case, this is like one criminal gang attacking another. If the Sopprano family invades the Bozini family's turf, takes over their protection rackets, and hunts down their godfather, it could be messy, and it really