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Re: JYA ping
JYA is temporarily dead online due to work load in the DC area, near the armageddon push button, which is located, in case you give a, out on Route 7 disguised as FAA Leesburg. We paid a surprise Sunday morning visit to the CIA back entrance, got surrounded by HMMVs and spiffy guards with hands on guns, interrogated by a swell looking Ms. Security who ran our Duncan Frissell ID card through the master file, idled for 1/2 hour observing gaps in the maginot line, and then received a heartfelt thanks for cooperating, Duncan, wink. Mrs. Frissell hissed bitch as we serpentined the Jersey barriers back out the way in. It's worth observing that this prose style is literally inimitable. I'd say its authentication value (in terms of persuasively suggesting that the entity long known as JYA authored this also) is at least as strong as a long-used PGP signature would be. Others, having more faith in the abilities of federally-employed creative writers, might I suppose reasonably differ. -- Daniel
Re: Discouraging credential sharing with Mojo
On Wed, 21 Aug 2002 10:10:33 -0500 Anonymous [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some credential issuing schemes, such as those from Brands as well as from Camenisch Lysyanskaya, try to avoid credential sharing by embedding into the credential some secret which is important and valuable to the credential holder. Then if the credential is shared, the recipient learns the important secret, to the detriment of the person sharing the credential. So he won't do it. The problem is that there don't seem to be any secrets that will work well in discouraging sharing. The most obvious is a credit card number, but this has a number of problems: some people don't have credit cards; people could cancel their credit cards after receiving the credentia; and underground hackers have access to thousands of stolen credit card numbers that they don't mind sharing. Leaving aside the irony aspects of the original post... The actual problem is of a more practical nature: how can you asses that something is truly valuable to a person and do it in mass production? Diogenes the cynic would not depend on anything but himself. Descartes started by not trusting even his own, himself... A kamikaze will spare his own life for the Emperor. Now again, how can anybody define what is valuable to a given person without thoroughly knowing him/her in depth? And how do you ever know you know someone at all? Clearly we need a new approach. Here is a suggestion for a simple solution which will give everyone an important secret that they will avoid sharing. At birth each person will be issued a secret key. This will be called his Mojo. He will also get the associated public key which will assist in protocols which involve commiting to his Mojo. The public key can be revealed but the Mojo should be kept secret at all costs. Then again, there are abundant examples of fathers giving out their childs for whatever they thought was common good or even their own personal interests. Actually, under a more prosaic (like starvation) pressure, the most common human strategy is to give precedent access to food to the parent that does bring the food in. That's only sensible: feeding your kids in preference will starve the producer parent and reduce likelyhood of getting more food in, therefore it is better to have your own kids hungry than to kill the whole family. Then in a credential issuing protocol, the user embeds his Mojo into his credential in a provable way. It is important that the protocol not reveal the Mojo to the issuer, but rather that some kind of zero knowledge proof be used so that the issuer is confident that sharing the credential will reveal the Mojo. And then you have the Mojo of a newborn stealing the Federal Reserve. Or the Mojo of some fanatic who doesn't care. Or that of an outcast who doesn't live by the stablishmen's rules anyway. Or that of a fugitive no one knows where is. Or a fake Mojo issued by a corrupt Mojo issuer in the Federal Mojo Issuing Agency. Or a fake Mojo of an spy. Or that of a dead person whose death has not been reported. Or that of a missing person from your petty dictatorship. Or the Mojo of a newborn stolen/faken by the Doctor at delivery... Now all that is needed is a simple change to the law so that knowing someone's Mojo makes him your slave. Ditto, what use is it having a slave you can't locate, or death ten years ago, or even worst, a kamikaze suiciding against you? Technology is done by human beings -limited as any peer- and thus is limited by its conceiver's limitations. Either you give technologues God-like status and trust (and God save you then) or you can't trust it anymore you would trust the person him/herself. This is the actual message that needs to be conveyed to everyone: there is no technology that will make your life safe. In the end you always have to deal somehow with the Real World yourself. Anyone selling you that a given technology can give you full security on anything at all is actually selling snake oil. The only secure thing in Life is Death. j -- These opinions are mine and only mine. Hey man, I saw them first! Josi R. Valverde De nada sirve la Inteligencia Artificial cuando falta la Natural
Re: Discouraging credential sharing with Mojo
On Wed, 21 Aug 2002 10:10:33 -0500 Anonymous [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some credential issuing schemes, such as those from Brands as well as from Camenisch Lysyanskaya, try to avoid credential sharing by embedding into the credential some secret which is important and valuable to the credential holder. Then if the credential is shared, the recipient learns the important secret, to the detriment of the person sharing the credential. So he won't do it. The problem is that there don't seem to be any secrets that will work well in discouraging sharing. The most obvious is a credit card number, but this has a number of problems: some people don't have credit cards; people could cancel their credit cards after receiving the credentia; and underground hackers have access to thousands of stolen credit card numbers that they don't mind sharing. Leaving aside the irony aspects of the original post... The actual problem is of a more practical nature: how can you asses that something is truly valuable to a person and do it in mass production? Diogenes the cynic would not depend on anything but himself. Descartes started by not trusting even his own, himself... A kamikaze will spare his own life for the Emperor. Now again, how can anybody define what is valuable to a given person without thoroughly knowing him/her in depth? And how do you ever know you know someone at all? Clearly we need a new approach. Here is a suggestion for a simple solution which will give everyone an important secret that they will avoid sharing. At birth each person will be issued a secret key. This will be called his Mojo. He will also get the associated public key which will assist in protocols which involve commiting to his Mojo. The public key can be revealed but the Mojo should be kept secret at all costs. Then again, there are abundant examples of fathers giving out their childs for whatever they thought was common good or even their own personal interests. Actually, under a more prosaic (like starvation) pressure, the most common human strategy is to give precedent access to food to the parent that does bring the food in. That's only sensible: feeding your kids in preference will starve the producer parent and reduce likelyhood of getting more food in, therefore it is better to have your own kids hungry than to kill the whole family. Then in a credential issuing protocol, the user embeds his Mojo into his credential in a provable way. It is important that the protocol not reveal the Mojo to the issuer, but rather that some kind of zero knowledge proof be used so that the issuer is confident that sharing the credential will reveal the Mojo. And then you have the Mojo of a newborn stealing the Federal Reserve. Or the Mojo of some fanatic who doesn't care. Or that of an outcast who doesn't live by the stablishmen's rules anyway. Or that of a fugitive no one knows where is. Or a fake Mojo issued by a corrupt Mojo issuer in the Federal Mojo Issuing Agency. Or a fake Mojo of an spy. Or that of a dead person whose death has not been reported. Or that of a missing person from your petty dictatorship. Or the Mojo of a newborn stolen/faken by the Doctor at delivery... Now all that is needed is a simple change to the law so that knowing someone's Mojo makes him your slave. Ditto, what use is it having a slave you can't locate, or death ten years ago, or even worst, a kamikaze suiciding against you? Technology is done by human beings -limited as any peer- and thus is limited by its conceiver's limitations. Either you give technologues God-like status and trust (and God save you then) or you can't trust it anymore you would trust the person him/herself. This is the actual message that needs to be conveyed to everyone: there is no technology that will make your life safe. In the end you always have to deal somehow with the Real World yourself. Anyone selling you that a given technology can give you full security on anything at all is actually selling snake oil. The only secure thing in Life is Death. j -- These opinions are mine and only mine. Hey man, I saw them first! Josi R. Valverde De nada sirve la Inteligencia Artificial cuando falta la Natural
Did you get my email?
Hi, did you receive my previous email message? I sent it 2 weeks ago, but Istill didn't get an answer, please check in your old email. Anyway, I'll send you another copy tomorrow or the day after, you don't need to reply to this email. Regards, John Laplace
Ross TCPA paper
For those who question the use of the TCPA spec as part of a DRM system, I refer you to the following article where the author interviewed Jim Ward of IBM (one of the authors of the TCPA spec) -- http://www.101com.com/solutions/security/article.asp?ArticleID=3266 In particular, note the following text: The TCPA specifications center on two main areas: trusted reporting and public key infrastructure (PKI). The TCPA reporting guidelines create profiles of a machine's security settings as the machine boots. Ward says content providers such as Bloomberg or Hoover's may take advantage of this feature to ensure users do not redistribute content. And then there is the DRMOS patent granted to Paul England, et al. of Microsoft -- http://cryptome.org/ms-drm-os.htm. Mr. England is also one of the authors of the TCPA specification. Note the section describing the interaction of the DRMOS with the CPU and the cryptographic/certificate requirements of the CPU. This is precisely how the TCPA spec works. The TCPA website avoids mentioning the DRM applications of the spec precisely because it is so controversial. However, it's no big secret that this is clearly one of the intended uses of the spec. -- Larry J. Blunk Merit Network, Inc. Ann Arbor, Michigan
Re: Re: Eyes on the Prize...not the Millicent Ghetto
Or my favorite 1000 swiss franc notes currently worth about $618 each. DCF Neat! I need to get out more. A thin sheaf of those would add considerable spice to the old slip the envelope out of the inside breast pocket of your suit coat transactions. -- Daniel J. Boone
Re: Re: Bad guys vs. Good guys
More to the point, you don't *live* unless you're selling something, What the hell does *live* mean? There are quite a few folks on this planet who 'sell' nothing. They grow their own food, they build their own house. snippage No stores, no electricity, no telephones, no air conditioning. No medical (it was a three hour drive by Jeep to get her to a airstrip where they could get her to a hotel - all paid with US tax dollars - not one African whatever they use). All of which reminds me of the punchline to that old joke about the man whose doctor told him to stop smoking, drinking, and eating fast food if he wanted to live longer. Doctor, you call THAT living? The point being that subsistance survival is not *living* in the sense used here. -- Daniel J. Boone (who has tried it, at length)
Re: Court orders video spying
At 07:58 -0700 2002/05/03, Steve Schear wrote: [An example of why intelligent appliances in the home, not based on open source may be dangerous. Spyware Inside (sm) ] Court orders video spying SONICBLUE TO SURVEY CUSTOMER RECORDERS By Dawn C. Chmielewski Mercury News A federal magistrate in Los Angeles has ordered SonicBlue to spy on thousands of digital video recorder users -- monitoring every show they record, every commercial they skip and every program they send electronically to a friend. http://www.bayarea.com/mld/mercurynews/business/3189274.htm Go read SonicBlue's privacy policy -- they claim to already record all that information and that they will hand it over if ordered by a court or would rat you out if they thought you were doing something illegal. http://www.sonicblue.com/company/privacy.asp -- J. Eric Townsend -- http://www.spies.com/jet Were you in USASSG/ACSI/MACV in Vietnam, 1967-1970? Drop me a line if so...
Re: Re: Bad guys vs. Good guys
From: Michael Motyka [EMAIL PROTECTED] I remember that in the weeks post 9-11 Safeway or one of the other grocery store chains offered to profile customers. What are they going to do? Question everyone who buys olive oil, chick peas, garlic and sesame paste? Don't forget, they arrested the guy who bought a truckload of candy at Costco just before Halloween I never did hear if they let him out or if he is still rotting in preventive detention
Re: Buying reputations...and turnips
Of course, in a more nuanced understanding of reputations, it would be appreciated by Everquest players that the skills that got a player to Grand Wazoo are not transferrable when the nym is sold. And indeed, it is so appreciated. Ebayer is just about the worst epithet someone can be called in the Everquest world. Ebayers are feared and dreaded, because they breed chaos and random unanticipated meaningless instant death. But the economics are compelling. There are MANY specific items of gear in Everquest that can each take 50+ hours of gameplay to obtain. If I were in a position to spend that same time doing professional work at $100 per hour, the opportunity cost to me of obtaining that item could exceed five grand. Viewed in that light, purchasing a character on eBay that is pre-equipped with, say, four such items for a mere $700 is a downright bargain. Effectively, I'd be paying some fourteen-year-old twenty-nine cents an hour for his ample spare time.
fincen visiting web sites?
I have just begun keeping a log of visits to our web site, after five years of blithely ignoring the issue. One of the scary things is that on the third day of our log (today) we had a visit from 152.121.36.65 which is gateway-fincen.uscg.mil Yesterday we had 199.196.144.16 which is tias-gw6.treas.gov Now, I'm probably being rediculously paranoid, and I couldn't think of anybody else to mention this to, but what do you think of this? A google search of gateway-fincen.uscg.edu (in quotes) shows 220-odd hits, almost all of them people's public weblogs. Fincen is, of course, the Financial Crimes Enforcement Network, money laundering is their focus. thad
Re: New heights of spam from Choate and MattX
At 09:29 -0800 2002/03/15, Tim May wrote: Being away from the Net for nearly 24 hours, I wondered why I was getting 90 e-mails downloading, but only about 16 messages in my Cypherpunks filtered mailbox. So I looked at what the cat drug in: Here's an idea -- why not use whatever you use to filter things into your cypherpunks mailbox to first filter out anything from people you don't want to read instead of whining to everyone on the list about how much they send that you don't want to read? -- J. Eric Townsend -- http://www.spies.com/jet Were you in USASSG/ACSI/MACV in Vietnam, 1967-1970? Drop me a line if so...