On Fri, Dec 13, 2002 at 11:44:28AM -0500, Trei, Peter wrote:
For the Russians, 'a few' was over 70.
I hope for a non-violent restoration - this sort
of thing could give the Libertarian Party legs,
if they handled it right.
ROTFLMAO.
You a funny man, you ever considered standup? if they
On Sat, 14 Dec 2002, John Kelsey wrote:
The thing that's being missed here is that, if elections can be won by
running on a pro-freedom slate, politicians will be found to do that. Note
Running and winning are 2 different things. So far most libertarians
don't win, but it's slowly changing.
On Sun, Dec 15, 2002 at 08:56:04PM -0800, Mike Rosing wrote:
I don't know, Ashcroft is adament about the 2nd amendment. It's about the
only good thing I can think of otherwise.
He's not as regulatory as his predecessor, but I find it hard to
reconcile that statement with the DOJ's actions in
hi,
--- James A. Donald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
US policy was to restore the status quo ante in
Afghanistan,
put things back the way they were before the Soviet
invasion.
How does that make things better for 'afghan'
people,after all the bombing done on their home land?
The future
of
On Sun, 15 Dec 2002, Sarad AV wrote:
Firstly,they cannot be exterminated.There is no proof
of identity as we may have in our countries and no
body will ask for it either,since most don't have one.
The Taliban would have cut their beard and hair and
mixed up with civilian population,while
--
On Sun, 15 Dec 2002, Sarad AV wrote:
Firstly,they cannot be exterminated.There is no proof of
identity as we may have in our countries and no body will ask
for it either,since most don't have one. The Taliban would
have cut their beard and hair and mixed up with civilian
On Fri, 13 Dec 2002, Anonymous wrote:
Spot on. But what, if anything, do you think can be done to
reverse this slide to Red White and Blue Stalinism with good PR?
I trust you are not one of those who will prattle something like
exercise your right to vote, or write your
On Fri, Dec 13, 2002 at 05:10:23PM +0100, Anonymous wrote:
Vote? Are you kidding? OK, here is your task. Since all but one
member of congress voted FOR the USA PATRIOT ACT, exactly what
All but one member of the Senate. House was a bit better, though still
extremely pathetic, and the
At 01:09 PM 12/14/2002 -0500, you wrote:
On Thu, Dec 12, 2002 at 10:47:25AM -0800, Tim May wrote:
Secret trials are on the rise. Inasmuch as the U.S. is now throwing its
full weight behind secret evidence, secret prosecutions, secret trials,
secret appeals courts, suspension of habeas corpus,
hi,
--- Mike Rosing [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And who supports whom to prevent extermination.
Firstly,they cannot be exterminated.There is no proof
of identity as we may have in our countries and no
body will ask for it either,since most don't have one.
The Taliban would have cut their beard and
hi,
All represive regiemes are short lived in a
historical context.
The Taliban is still very much alive,when troops moved
into kabul there were no traces of the taliban.They
took what ever they wanted and were 'refugees'
sneaking out when the bombing started.They placed what
they needed ,every
On Friday 13 December 2002 11:44, Trei, Peter wrote:
... this sort
of thing could give the Libertarian Party legs,
if they handled it right.
Hahahahahahaha
--
Steve FurlongComputer Condottiere Have GNU, Will Travel
You don't expect governments to obey the law because of some higher
On Fri, 13 Dec 2002, Sarad AV wrote:
The Taliban is still very much alive,when troops moved
into kabul there were no traces of the taliban.They
took what ever they wanted and were 'refugees'
sneaking out when the bombing started.They placed what
they needed ,every body else needed to
society, what can the regular person do to strike a blow in
opposition to the direct attack on the Constitution and civil
liberties and civil rights?
Stop watching TV ?
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Anonymous wrote:
On Thu, 12 Dec 2002 10:47:25 -0800, Tim May wrote:
America used to disdain the secret trials, the Star Chamber proceedings so
endemic in other parts of the world. Now we have them.
We will reap what we sow.
--Tim May
Spot on. But what, if anything, do you think can
Mike Rosing wrote:
[...]
When we can't vote, we can fight. So far the number of horror
stories is small. But when everyone has a personal friend or
relative that's been shot, abused, tortured or even just roughed
up - then they'll know they might be next. And they might vote to
On Fri, 13 Dec 2002, Trei, Peter wrote:
For the Russians, 'a few' was over 70.
I hope for a non-violent restoration - this sort
of thing could give the Libertarian Party legs,
if they handled it right.
Agreed. And they may have not even need to handle it perfectly
right, since the main
On Fri, Dec 13, 2002 at 08:17:27AM -0800, Mike Rosing wrote:
| All represive regiemes are short lived in a historical context.
| Living thru them is hell. This one has already begun a rather
| interesting hypocrisy - they say they support gun ownership, but
| they have no problem with letting the
Spot on. But what, if anything, do you think can be done to
reverse this slide to Red White and Blue Stalinism with good PR?
I trust you are not one of those who will prattle something like
exercise your right to vote, or write your
congressperson/MP, etc. In practical terms, in a
On Fri, 13 Dec 2002 06:43:53 +, you wrote:
If you don't choose to use these methods, the consequences are up to you.
But secure comms alone will only provide you with useful information, by
themselves they aren't enough; you need to vote. Lots of you.
Nothing else really matters. To them,
On Fri, 13 Dec 2002, Anonymous wrote:
Interesting approach. But exactly how does that hinder the FBI
demanding a booksellers customer list, or a library's patron
check out record, or a black bag job on a personal computer, or
thousands of CALEA taps, or the Total Information Awareness
On Fri, 13 Dec 2002, Anonymous wrote:
Vote? Are you kidding? OK, here is your task. Since all but one
member of congress voted FOR the USA PATRIOT ACT, exactly what
party or what candidates do you suggest be elected in support of
civil liberties in the US? You don't seem to get this. Or on
On Thu, 12 Dec 2002 20:01:05 -0800 (PST), you wrote:
society, what can the regular person do to strike a blow in
opposition to the direct attack on the Constitution and civil
liberties and civil rights?
Stop watching TV ?
Interesting approach. But exactly how does that hinder the FBI
Interesting approach. But exactly how does that hinder the FBI
demanding a booksellers customer list, or a library's patron
check out record, or a black bag job on a personal computer, or
thousands of CALEA taps, or the Total Information Awareness
project, or the process of designating a
On Thursday, December 12, 2002, at 05:54 PM, Anonymous wrote:
On Thu, 12 Dec 2002 10:47:25 -0800, Tim May wrote:
America used to disdain the secret trials, the Star Chamber
proceedings so endemic in other parts of the world. Now we have them.
We will reap what we sow.
--Tim May
Spot on.
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