On Sat, 21 Dec 2002, Neil Johnson wrote:
U, how about.
1. Big multi-national corporation buys off politicians to pass laws to protect
their business model (DMCA anyone ?)
2. Gets meter maid to enforce said law.
3. See above.
Ahhh, I see. Let's just get rid of the middle-man
On Fri, Dec 20, 2002 at 10:35:06AM -0800, Mike Rosing wrote:
onto the radar of U.S. legislators, who see the danger it poses to the
traditional power structures. Unless all those free software programmers
are prepared for armed rebellion when their right to share code is taken
away, I'm
On Fri, 20 Dec 2002, Michael Cardenas wrote:
I'm not advocating armed rebellion. I'm saying that the current
political structures in power have massive political might and are
willing to use it to stay in power, as we are witnessing more everyday,
and anything that challenges that might will
Anonymous wrote:
Like I said before, P2P, Crypto, WiFi and cheap chips will turn everything upside down.
I'm curious as to what makes you, or anyone on this list, think that
these technologies by themselves will cause any sort of political
upheaval. Lawrence Lessig has talked about how
On Fri, 20 Dec 2002, Michael Cardenas wrote:
I think that Bruce Schneier's terse comment just illustrates the
flippant attitude that lots of geeks have towards politics, and that
lots of people have also. Just because geeks know a lot about
technology, doesn't mean that they're impervious to
Mike Rosing wrote:
On Fri, 20 Dec 2002, Michael Cardenas wrote:
I just have a hard time seeing the bridge between armed rebellion
against the largest military power the world has ever known, the U.S.,
and some new networking technologies that are being designed for cisco
to make more money.
On Fri, 20 Dec 2002, Michael Cardenas wrote:
Ahh... I meant massive military might.
Not a whole lot of difference usually :-)
mike
Mike Rosing[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote
[...]
The Berrata family is still around,
mostly because they never decided
to be a _political_ power. They
have stayed as an economic one.
[...]
I think you meant the *Beretta* family, who
have been making fine fireams since the 1520's.
Other
On Fri, 20 Dec 2002, Trei, Peter wrote:
I think you meant the *Beretta* family, who
have been making fine fireams since the 1520's.
Yup, my spelling sucks :-)
Other really old companies:
Stora Enso Oyj of Helsinki, Finland, a
paper and board maker, began as a
copper mine in central
On Sat, 21 Dec 2002 00:07:34 -0800 (PST), you wrote:
Michael Cardenas wrote:
(Begin Quote)
I'm curious as to what makes you, or anyone on this list, think that these
technologies by themselves will cause any sort of political upheaval...What's to
say that these technologies are not
On Saturday 21 December 2002 08:45 am, Anonymous wrote:
The high ranking for power concentration you implicity give to
transnationals is undeserved and you are fearful of the wrong
threat. The humblest meter maid can commence a process against
you with consequences far greater than those that
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