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So this dupe/spy/wannabe journalist thinks that journalists
should be *special*.. how nice. Where in the 1st amendment is the class
journalists mentioned? She needs a WMD enema.
We put up with this needs killing crap from Tim May
Let's take a look at Daniel Nagy's list of desirable features for an
ecash system and see how simple, on-line Chaum ecash fares.
http://www.epointsystem.org/~nagydani/ICETE2005.pdf
One of the reasons, in the author s opinion, is that payment systems
based on similar schemes lack some key
cyphrpunk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The notion that someone who is willing to spend months in jail just to
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downright evil.
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Thank you for the detailed critique!
I think, we're not talking about the same Chaumian cash. The referred 1988
paper proposes an off-line system, where double spending compromises
anonymity and results in transaction reversal. I agree with you that it was
a mistake on my part to deny its
On Thu, 20 Oct 2005, cyphrpunk wrote:
system without excessive complications. Only the fifth point, the
ability for outsiders to monitor the amount of cash in circulation, is
not satisfied. But even then, the ecash mint software, and procedures
and controls followed by the issuer, could be
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At 10:23 PM +0200 10/20/05, Daniel A. Nagy wrote:
The referred 1988
paper proposes an off-line system
Please. You can just as easily do an on-line system, and still have blind
signatures, including m=m=2 shared secret signature hiding to prevent
double spending.
In fact, the *only* viable way to
On Thu, Oct 20, 2005 at 05:19:49PM -0400, R.A. Hettinga wrote:
BTW, you can exchange cash for goods, or other chaumian bearer certificates
-- or receipts, for that matter, with a simple exchange protocol. Micali
did one for email ten years ago, for instance.
Could you give us a reference to
As far as the issue of receipts in Chaumian ecash, there have been a
couple of approaches discussed.
The simplest goes like this. If Alice will pay Bob, Bob supplies Alice
with a blinded proto-coin, along with a signed statement, I will
perform service X if Alice supplies me with a mint signature
At 12:32 AM +0200 10/21/05, Daniel A. Nagy wrote:
Could you give us a reference to this one, please?
Google is your friend, dude.
Before making unitary global claims like you just did, you might consider
consulting the literature. It's out there.
Cheers,
RAH
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On Thu, Oct 20, 2005 at 03:36:54PM -0700, cyphrpunk wrote:
As far as the issue of receipts in Chaumian ecash, there have been a
couple of approaches discussed.
The simplest goes like this. If Alice will pay Bob, Bob supplies Alice
with a blinded proto-coin, along with a signed statement, I
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On Thu, Oct 20, 2005 at 07:34:34PM -0400, R.A. Hettinga wrote:
At 12:32 AM +0200 10/21/05, Daniel A. Nagy wrote:
Could you give us a reference to this one, please?
Google is your friend, dude.
Before making unitary global claims like you just did, you might consider
consulting the
At 2:36 AM +0200 10/21/05, Daniel A. Nagy wrote:
With all due respect, this was unnecessarily rude, unfair and unwarranted.
This is the *cypherpunks* list, guy... :-)
Silvio Micali is a very prolific author and he published more than one paper
on more than one exchange protocol
And I just got
Quick, before they change it: search Google using the term failure
(without the quotes)
They won't be changing it:
http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2005/09/googlebombing-failure.html
On 10/21/05, Steve Schear [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Quick, before they change it: search Google using the term failure
(without the quotes)
At 6:22 PM -0700 10/20/05, Steve Schear wrote:
Quick, before they change it: search Google using the term failure
Yawn. That, or something like it, has been there for years, Steve...
Cheers,
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Gil Hamilton wrote:
I've never heard it disclosed how the prosecutor discovered that Miller had
had such a conversation but it isn't relevant anyway. The question is, can
she defy a subpoena based on membership in the privileged Reporter class that
an ordinary person could not defy?
Why not?
Dave Howe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Gil Hamilton wrote:
I've never heard it disclosed how the prosecutor discovered that Miller
had
had such a conversation but it isn't relevant anyway. The question is,
can
she defy a subpoena based on membership in the privileged Reporter class
that
an
On 10/19/05, Daniel A. Nagy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://www.epointsystem.org/~nagydani/ICETE2005.pdf
Note that nowhere in my paper did I imply that the issuer is a bank (the
only mentioning of a bank in the paper is in an analogy). This is because I
am strongly convinced that banks
cyphrpunk wrote:
If this is the model, my concern is that in practice it will often be
the case that there will be few intermediate exchanges. Particularly
in the early stages of the system, there won't be that much to buy.
Someone may accept epoints for payment but the first thing he will do
is
I will provide a detailed answer a bit later, but the short answer is that
anonymity and untraceability are not major selling points, as experience
shows. After all, ATMs could easily record and match to the user the serial
numbers of each banknote they hand out, yet, there seems to be no
On 10/18/05, Major Variola (ret.) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So this dupe/spy/wannabe journalist thinks that journalists
should be *special*.. how nice. Where in the 1st amendment is the class
journalists mentioned? She needs a WMD enema.
We put up with this needs killing crap from Tim May
cyphrpunk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The notion that someone who is willing to spend months in jail just to
keep a promise of silence needs killing is beyond bizarre and is
downright evil.
Straw man alert.
MV's notion is that a person who thinks journalists should be a special
class of people
Let's take a look at Daniel Nagy's list of desirable features for an
ecash system and see how simple, on-line Chaum ecash fares.
http://www.epointsystem.org/~nagydani/ICETE2005.pdf
One of the reasons, in the author s opinion, is that payment systems
based on similar schemes lack some key
Thank you for the detailed critique!
I think, we're not talking about the same Chaumian cash. The referred 1988
paper proposes an off-line system, where double spending compromises
anonymity and results in transaction reversal. I agree with you that it was
a mistake on my part to deny its
On Thu, 20 Oct 2005, cyphrpunk wrote:
system without excessive complications. Only the fifth point, the
ability for outsiders to monitor the amount of cash in circulation, is
not satisfied. But even then, the ecash mint software, and procedures
and controls followed by the issuer, could be
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