Quoting Charles Plessy (2014-07-03 03:14:21)
may I suggest the Blends framework to those who want metapackages that
influence what is installed by default on their system ?
Currently, one of the main limits of the Blends framework is that it
works mostly by installing metapackages after a
On Jo, 03 iul 14, 00:24:44, Juliusz Chroboczek wrote:
You have not yet explained why apt pinning is not enough.
I'd appreciate an explanation too. I've inserted in my apt/preferences
file the incantation given by Vitali F. (to whom thanks) at the very
beginning of this thread, and it
Juliusz Chroboczek wrote:
Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote:
You have not yet explained why apt pinning is not enough.
Simply because apt is not the only way to install packages.
- conflicting packages are honoured by dpkg, unlike pinning;
- a package can conflict with multiple packages, while
Hi,
Thorsten Glaser:
You have not yet explained why apt pinning is not enough.
Simply because apt is not the only way to install packages.
Don't synaptic and/or whatever honor these pins too?
Right. Furthermore, pinning can be used by the local admin,
without namespacing pin priorities
Matthias Urlichs wrote:
Thorsten Glaser:
You have not yet explained why apt pinning is not enough.
Simply because apt is not the only way to install packages.
Don't synaptic and/or whatever honor these pins too?
I have no idea about synaptic, but there’s e.g. cupt (which
works as apt
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You have not yet explained why apt pinning is not enough.
Simply because apt is not the only way to install packages.
Don't synaptic and/or whatever honor these pins too?
I have no idea about synaptic, but there’s e.g. cupt (which
works as apt replacement, but probably (didn’t check)
Thanks a lot for this package.
I would like to maintain inside Debian Python Modules Team,
this package is relevant since is needed by the new binwalk release
(don't know if other packages needs it)
I know at least about two package that could be interested by this dependency.
pyfai and in
At Thu, 03 Jul 2014 14:20:24 +0200,
Juliusz Chroboczek wrote:
You have not yet explained why apt pinning is not enough.
Simply because apt is not the only way to install packages.
Don't synaptic and/or whatever honor these pins too?
I have no idea about synaptic, but there’s e.g.
Folks,
Le jeudi, 3 juillet 2014, 14.20:24 Juliusz Chroboczek a écrit :
Isn't the proper solution to add blacklisting support to dpkg, then?
The proper solution is to stop trying to hide ourselves from to the fact
that some sort of systemd interfaces have been made unavoidable in
modern
On Wed, Jul 02, 2014 at 12:04:46AM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote:
I don't think so. I think it encourages to be more easy going, and have
fun, but never mind. Let's keep Debian boring^W^Wportland weird. :)
Would you feel the same if someone were to, say, upload a
hurd-must-die package?
Kind
On Thu, Jul 03, 2014 at 05:01:13PM +0200, David Weinehall wrote:
On Wed, Jul 02, 2014 at 12:04:46AM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote:
I don't think so. I think it encourages to be more easy going, and have
fun, but never mind. Let's keep Debian boring^W^Wportland weird. :)
Would you feel the
On Thu, 3 Jul 2014, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote:
The proper solution is to stop trying to hide ourselves from to the fact
that some sort of systemd interfaces have been made unavoidable in
modern desktop environments (fact which is rightfully reflected in our
Eh… you know… these are not all
Le jeudi 03 juillet 2014 à 07:36 +0900, Norbert Preining a écrit :
You will never get xfce via an indirect 4-step dependency chain,
but systemd comes in due to being the first alternative
with lots of packages.
Just like ConsoleKit used to.
For the *exact* same reasons.
Yet I didn’t see any
Yet I didn't see any proposal for a consolekit-must-die package=
Must be because most people did not even get consolekit installed.
Or because it was not that intrusive?
(People in the know avoided *kit for a long time already anyway.)
bye,
//mirabilos
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This thread seems to be discussing the wrong problems[1].
We currently have the problem that systemd is still not installed by
default by debootstrap, despite the tech ctte decision being made months
ago. It's not clear what the right solution to that is; should
debootstrap special-case systemd
Hi,
Thorsten Glaser:
A lot of Debian systems even run without dbus!
Yeah. So? systemd doesn't force you to run a dbus daemon.
No, there just has not been any challenge that met the form and
other requirements… and I am at a bit of loss at what to do here.
You get to do the same thing the
Didier, Hello.
The proper solution is to stop trying to hide ourselves from to the fact
that some sort of systemd interfaces have been made unavoidable in
modern desktop environments (fact which is rightfully reflected in our
dependencies tree).
Can we get over this now and start making
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Alexander Pushkin alex904...@mail.ru writes:
For some of us there will never be an awesome Debian release that at
it's core contains systemd. It's core developers, Lennart Poettering and
Kay Sievers, work for a company that has multi-billion dollar contracts
with NSA. It is your choice to
Hi,
Alexander Pushkin:
It's core developers
*Its.
I think we can do without (quite unfounded, IMHO) insinuations that
systemd is somehow infected with an NSA-sponsored backdoor or two,
thank you very much.
Please respect our decision to stay away from systemd and still be Debian
users. If
On 13626 March 1977, Norbert Preining wrote:
On Wed, 02 Jul 2014, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
And should we open the archive for a series of i hate $tool, i never
want it packages, where do we stop? In theory we could end up with a
load of them.
Joerg, please be reasonable.
I entirely am, and thats
On Thu, Jul 03, 2014 at 11:25:36AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
[snip]
If the NSA are going to hide back-doors in open source projects (a rather
dubious idea to start with, given how difficult it is and how much social
blowback there would be when such a thing was inevitably discovered), they
Am 03.07.2014 18:45, schrieb Joey Hess:
This thread seems to be discussing the wrong problems[1].
We currently have the problem that systemd is still not installed by
default by debootstrap, despite the tech ctte decision being made months
ago. It's not clear what the right solution to that
Am 28.06.2014 19:44, schrieb Osamu Aoki:
Hi,
The path for the arch dependent header file seems to have several options.
1) /usr/include/multiarch/*.h
2) /usr/include/multiarch/packagename/*.h
3) /usr/lib/multiarch/packagename/include/*.h
I would like to know rationale for each
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Hi,
Matthias Urlichs matth...@urlichs.de writes:
Please respect our decision to stay away from systemd and still be
Debian users. If possible, please, don't resist changes that make our
lives easier.
*Sigh*.
The problem is not that anybody resists such changes.
I disagree. People *do* in
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through the WNPP (Work-Needing and Prospective Packages) system in the
last week.
Total number of orphaned packages: 586 (new: 10)
Total number of packages offered up for adoption: 137 (new: 0)
Total number of packages
On 03/07/14 22:50, David Weinehall wrote:
Why would the NSA take even the slightest risk of discovery
when they could put a backdoor in a driver for a piece of hardware that
has full access to your system?
Or on the firmware of your HDD/SDD:
http://s3.eurecom.fr/~zaddach/docs/Recon14_HDD.pdf
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On 07/03/2014 01:40 PM, Matthias Urlichs wrote:
Hi,
Thorsten Glaser:
Can we get over this now and start making Jessie the most awesome
stable release we've ever prepared together?
To do that, it MUST work without systemd, if alone for
The Wanderer wande...@fastmail.fm writes:
I, for one, would be highly displeased if a routine dist-upgrade to
testing required me to reboot to avoid having things break.
I generally dist-upgrade my primary computer to testing about once a
week, give or take, but I don't reboot it more often
Hi,
The Wanderer:
I, for one, would be highly displeased if a routine dist-upgrade to
testing required me to reboot to avoid having things break.
We're talking about an upgrade from one release to the other here,
with many intrusive changes (not just systemd).
If you do that upgrade not in
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On 07/03/2014 11:53 PM, Russ Allbery wrote:
The Wanderer wande...@fastmail.fm writes:
I, for one, would be highly displeased if a routine dist-upgrade to
testing required me to reboot to avoid having things break.
I generally dist-upgrade
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