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Try glxgears and es2gears on few different platforms. On a Pi 3b
glxgears runs at about 45 FPS, es2gears slightly lower. On my Rock64
it's in the hundreds of FPS but that's Mali. Look at omxplayer, full
screen HD video while the CPU idles (on a Pi). The GPU is more
capable than the CPU. You
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El lunes, 26 de noviembre de 2018 08:37:57 -03 Raphael Hertzog escribió:
> Hello Lisandro,
>
> TLDR: thank you for starting this discussion, it was required as it's not
> an easy decision to take as there is no realistic perfect solution,
Our (team-wide) pleasure. This is something we have been
Russ Allbery writes ("Re: usrmerge -- plan B?"):
> Ian Jackson writes:
> > We can then have this discussion again early in the bullseye release
> > cycle. If we must.
>
> That idea makes me wince. This will just result in the same thing
> happening again. Let's have the discussion *now*, when
On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 09:29:50AM -0500, Michael Stone wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 03:08:09PM +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote:
> > I disagree both that simple testing (that you could do with a KVM
> > snapshot as well) would be hard and I disagree that the benefits of
> > merged-/usr would be
On Mo, Nov 26, 2018 at 03:08:09 +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote:
snapshot as well) would be hard and I disagree that the benefits of
merged-/usr would be minor.
There are no benefits of a merged /usr for users who don’t want to export
/usr via NFS or want to use clusters/docker images/etc. And this
On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 03:08:09PM +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote:
I disagree both that simple testing (that you could do with a KVM
snapshot as well) would be hard and I disagree that the benefits of
merged-/usr would be minor.
Nobody has thus far pointed out a single benefit to someone merging
On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 09:24:40AM +0100, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote:
usrmerge is in the archive for 3+ years now. What seems to be needed now is
for a lot of us to actually _try_ it, find and report bugs, and get this
through.
There's no way I'm running it on a production system. I would be
On Nov 26, Ian Jackson wrote:
> I could do it. But, frankly, this is quite a lot of work. I think
> the work (throughout the Debian ecosystem) to test this properly far
> outweighs the minor benefits.
I disagree both that simple testing (that you could do with a KVM
snapshot as well) would be
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Hello Ian,
On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 2:04 PM Ian Campbell wrote:
>
> On Mon, 2018-11-26 at 12:07 +0100, bret curtis wrote:
> > The hardware that supports GLES also supports OpenGL because GLES is
> > a subset of OpenGL.
>
> I'm confused by this inference. If GLES is a subset of OpenGL then
>
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On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 12:37:57PM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> were in the week-end). I was aware of the discussion but did not
> had the time to chime in, yet I was the person who re-opened the bug
> #881333 in the first place.
> I also invited someone else who is working on a concrete
On Mon, 2018-11-26 at 12:07 +0100, bret curtis wrote:
> The hardware that supports GLES also supports OpenGL because GLES is
> a subset of OpenGL.
I'm confused by this inference. If GLES is a subset of OpenGL then
surely hardware which claims to implement GLES is at liberty to only
implement that
On Nov 26, Bjørn Mork wrote:
> "Migration is not (easily) reversible" was reported as important in
> 2016: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=848626
This is not a bug: nothing is misbehaving, so classifying this as
wishlist is correct.
I even doubt that it would be technically
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Didier 'OdyX' Raboud writes ("Re: usrmerge -- plan B?"):
> Of course you do have backups. For the sake of the argument, would you
> consider trying an install of usrmerge on a restored backup VM somewhere?
I could do it. But, frankly, this is quite a lot of work. I think
the work (throughout
Marco d'Itri writes:
> On Nov 26, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote:
>
>> Sorry to be blunt about this, but have you reported these? Sniping at (any)
>
> No, they have not. There is a lot of handwaving in this thread but very
> few results of actual tests.
"Migration is not (easily) reversible" was
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Quoting Raphael Hertzog (2018-11-26 12:37:57)
> Software can be fixed/improved to also work with OpenGL ES. However
> hardware, once bought, cannot be fixed to support Desktop OpenGL when
> it has been designed for OpenGL ES only.
Is some _hardware_ really "designed for OpenGL ES only"?
I
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Hello Lisandro,
TLDR: thank you for starting this discussion, it was required as it's not
an easy decision to take as there is no realistic perfect solution, but I
believe you took the wrong decision. Please consider deferring the
decision to the technical committe by seeking his advice (point
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Hi!
On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 11:40 AM Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> >
> > What applications does Debian have in its repo that only support GLES?
>
> Wrong question. Maybe it makes sense for you at the application level for
> the application that are hooking into OpenGL directly. But we are speaking
>
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Hello,
On Sat, 24 Nov 2018, bret curtis wrote:
> Moving Qt back to using Desktop GL from GLES is going to have zero
> impact performance on the RPi since the VC4 supports up to OpenGL 2.1
> and and GLES 2.0 [1]
That's a different claim to what you made in a former message.
> The problem is that
> On Sat, 24 Nov 2018, bret curtis wrote:
> > This is a very wrong assumption, the OpenGL on a RPi (all of them) is
> > hardware accelerated via the VC4 mesa driver by Eric Anholt which is
> > shipped, by default, on by Raspbian. It supports up to OpenGL 2.1 and
> > if you plan on having hardware
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On Nov 26, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote:
> Sorry to be blunt about this, but have you reported these? Sniping at (any)
No, they have not. There is a lot of handwaving in this thread but very
few results of actual tests.
After creating again unmerged chroots for the buildds the only bugs
left,
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On Thu, Nov 22, 2018 at 07:14:44PM -0300, Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer
wrote:
> El jueves, 22 de noviembre de 2018 18:30:39 -03 Marcin Juszkiewicz escribió:
> > Does it mean that arm64 box with PCI Express graphics card will be not
> > able to use Qt based software? I can put Radeon or
Hi,
On Fri, 23 Nov 2018, Dmitry Shachnev wrote:
> According to config_help.txt [1], Qt uses ES2 by default on Windows.
Interesting.
> But as Lisandro says, such a change in Debian will break many packages
> (which are currently broken on ARM only), so we are definitely not
> considering it at
Hello Bret,
On Sat, 24 Nov 2018, bret curtis wrote:
> This is a very wrong assumption, the OpenGL on a RPi (all of them) is
> hardware accelerated via the VC4 mesa driver by Eric Anholt which is
> shipped, by default, on by Raspbian. It supports up to OpenGL 2.1 and
> if you plan on having
On Mo, Nov 26, 2018 at 09:24:40 +0100, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote:
usrmerge is in the archive for 3+ years now. What seems to be needed now
is for a lot of us to actually _try_ it, find and report bugs, and get
this through.
Why, if it was intended as an optional package for people who want
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Le jeudi, 22 novembre 2018, 14.56:10 h CET Ian Jackson a écrit :
> There is tradeoff here between risk of breakage, and reduction of
> future work (as most clearly explained by Russ). The argument that is
> being made is that the risk is low because of a lack of reports of
> breakage.
>
> Others
Le jeudi, 22 novembre 2018, 00.17:54 h CET Michael Stone a écrit :
> Then this needs to be a very explicit (and much better advertised)
> decision, and it needs a much, much better implementation.
You keep referring to usrmerge as buggy:
> The current usrmerge package has no test mode, will bail
retitle 881896 ITP: src -- Simple Revision Control, single-file and single-user
version tracking
thanks
[Adding debian-devel@lists.debian.org to CC]
Hi Mike et al.,
> Package: wnpp
> Severity: wishlist
>
> * Package name: src
> Version : 1.17
Just reviewing this in NEW and was
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