On Jul 12, 2006 at 21:52, Art Edwards praised the llamas by saying:
I posted the same initial message on the three sites I thought were
appropriate. My plea for honesty was a measure of frustration with
what should be well-established packages. It turns out that in the newer
distros, the
On 7/12/06, Thierry Chatelet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Please answer only to the list the mail is originating.
Agreed. Cross posting is bad form.
On top, I am
wondering why we have so many ' tell the truth mail lately.
Dan Brown started it!
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Art Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Excuse me for chiming in, but I think many places simply look
for the best performance and productivity/dollar(euro). We do use the PGI
compiler,
mostly because gnu had not had a f90-f95 compiler, and partly because
of, maybe, a 10% improvement in
Thanks for your response.
We have the pgi compiler on the head node of a very
old, 32-bit beowulf. I do my production calculations on
a very nice large, 64-bit cluster at a national laboratory, but
my desktop machine had, until about 6 weeks ago, been a
1.4 GHz 32-bit machine. The graphics had
Excuse me for chiming in, but I think many places simply look
for the best performance and productivity/dollar(euro). We do use the PGI
compiler,
mostly because gnu had not had a f90-f95 compiler, and partly because
of, maybe, a 10% improvement in speed.
What I find interesting is that both
The point is that they do not work exactly fine. For ddd, the console at the
bottom is dead.
The keyboard fails. For grace(xmgrace) the same symptom is present in all
text boxes. This appears to be a pretty general problem because the same is
true for
Fedora Core 5, but not for Fedora Core 4. I
On 7/12/06, Art Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The point is that they do not work exactly fine. For ddd, the console at the
bottom is dead.
The keyboard fails. For grace(xmgrace) the same symptom is present in all
text boxes. This appears to be a pretty general problem because the same is
On Jul 12, 2006 at 20:39, Art Edwards praised the llamas by saying:
The point is that they do not work exactly fine. For ddd, the console at the
bottom is dead.
The keyboard fails. For grace(xmgrace) the same symptom is present in all
text boxes. This appears to be a pretty general problem
* Art Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-07-12 21:48]:
Excuse me for chiming in, but I think many places simply look
for the best performance and productivity/dollar(euro). We do use the PGI
compiler,
mostly because gnu had not had a f90-f95 compiler, and partly because
of, maybe, a 10%
Ozzy Lash wrote:
On 7/12/06, Art Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The point is that they do not work exactly fine. For ddd, the console
at the bottom is dead.
The keyboard fails. For grace(xmgrace) the same symptom is present in
all
text boxes. This appears to be a pretty general problem
Thanks very much. See below.
On Wed, Jul 12, 2006 at 02:54:14PM -0500, Ozzy Lash wrote:
On 7/12/06, Art Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The point is that they do not work exactly fine. For ddd, the console at
the bottom is dead.
The keyboard fails. For grace(xmgrace) the same symptom is
Hi,
On Wed, Jul 12, 2006 at 01:29:37PM -0600, Art Edwards wrote:
Excuse me for chiming in, but I think many places simply look
for the best performance and productivity/dollar(euro). We do use the PGI
compiler,
mostly because gnu had not had a f90-f95 compiler, and partly because
of,
I posted the same initial message on the three sites I thought were
appropriate. My plea for honesty was a measure of frustration with
what should be well-established packages. It turns out that in the newer
distros, the structure of /usr/X11R6 has changed dramatically enough
that it broke a
On Sat, 2006-07-08 at 10:09 -0600, Art Edwards wrote:
This brought up the question, who uses 64 bit Linux anyway?
Surely gamers do not drive the 64-bit linux community. It can't be the desktop
community, seeing that the standard office tool doesn't really
work for 64-bit.
I've been quite
Roger Leigh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Art Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Unless such core pieces as the debugging tool (ddd) and the data
display tool (xmgrace) are working, it is dishonest to pretend that
the 64-bit version is ready for testing. It would be very nice if
you, and other
On Sat, Jul 08, 2006 at 07:23:54PM +0300, Török Edvin wrote:
Btw, what is the appropriate severity level for a package that doesn't
work on a certain architecture at all? Is it release critical?
If the architecture is a release candidate, yes.
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On 7/8/06, Art Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have been writing to the list about two applications that
are so broken on the AMD64 distribution that they render the
box pretty useless.
Did you send bugreports for those programs?
Btw, what is the appropriate severity level for a package that
I have been writing to the list about two applications that
are so broken on the AMD64 distribution that they render the
box pretty useless. I'm sure one could say that two measly
applications are no big deal. However, if you do scientific computation
for a living, and two of the primary tools
On 7/8/06, Art Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have been writing to the list about two applications thatare so broken on the AMD64 distribution that they render thebox pretty useless. I'm sure one could say that two measlyapplications are no big deal. However, if you do scientific computation
Art Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I have been writing to the list about two applications that are so
broken on the AMD64 distribution that they render the box pretty
useless.
From the look of things, we are talking about a single bug in a single
library. So the system is hardly useless.
Art Edwards wrote:
Unless such core pieces as the debugging tool (ddd) and the data display tool
(xmgrace) are working, it is dishonest to pretend that the 64-bit version
is ready for testing.
ddd and grace are in Debian testing (etch) amd64 and work fine. So where
exactly is the issue?
Jimmy Tang wrote:
At the risk of imposing what we do at our work place onto your work
flow, i find that users generally should have access to better
debuggers/profilers than what ships with standard gnu distros.
Well, if you intend to start a flame war on the lists... but enough on that.
Hi,
On 7/8/06, Oliver Rother [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At the risk of imposing what we do at our work place onto your work
flow, i find that users generally should have access to better
debuggers/profilers than what ships with standard gnu distros.
Well, if you intend to start a flame war
Le Sat, Jul 08, 2006 at 10:09:56AM -0600, Art Edwards a écrit :
It would be very nice if you, and other distro's, were
to put appropriate caveats on the websites, saying that 64-bit is really not
ready for the prime-time desktop. That way, we could make better purchasing
decisions.
Dear
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