Re: Removing Gnome [was: Removing Packages in Slink for Debian 2.1]

1998-10-18 Thread Jim Pick
Havoc Pennington [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Fri, 16 Oct 1998, Craig Sanders wrote: maybe a compromise would be to leave the packages in slink, make sure the Description: field highlights their alpha status, and automatically close all non-packaging bugs (and forward them upstream if

Re: Removing Gnome [was: Removing Packages in Slink for Debian 2.1]

1998-10-16 Thread John Lapeyre
On Thu, 15 Oct 1998, Stephen Crowley wrote: crowThat is ridiculous, there is no reason to remove gnome before the freeze, if you FWIW, one of the slashdot commenters on the slink-freeze, commends slink for including gnome ( he did install the packages, too) . John Lapeyre [EMAIL

Re: Removing Gnome [was: Removing Packages in Slink for Debian 2.1]

1998-10-16 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, Brian == Brian White [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm not sure if it's a good idea to release them as a part of a stable distribution, as they really aren't. There aren't any guarantees that the stuff that runs today is going to run tomorrow. Brian I would agree with you. They should

Re: Removing Gnome [was: Removing Packages in Slink for Debian 2.1]

1998-10-16 Thread Craig Sanders
On 16 Oct 1998, Manoj Srivastava wrote: If we are going to staret removing packages because of the quality of the software, wonderful. I move to remove all traces of the travesty of editors, vi, from Debian, since obviously as editors they are less than alpha quality software. and we should

Re: Removing Gnome [was: Removing Packages in Slink for Debian 2.1]

1998-10-16 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, Doesn't the version number convey the alpha nature to people? Like, it isn't even version 1.0? Anyway, seeing that it is the maintainer who is asking for the removal, and the fact that I am not that much of a GNOME user (I fail to see the point, so far), I withdraw my

Re: Removing Gnome [was: Removing Packages in Slink for Debian 2.1]

1998-10-16 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Thu, Oct 15, 1998 at 04:02:41PM -0500, Stephen Crowley wrote: That is ridiculous, there is no reason to remove gnome before the freeze, if you dont like it dont use it. There are several programs that wont run without it, including GtkICQ which is about the only usuable icq replacement

Re: Removing Gnome [was: Removing Packages in Slink for Debian 2.1]

1998-10-16 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Thu, Oct 15, 1998 at 05:29:11PM -0500, Havoc Pennington wrote: Whether or not a program sucks or is alpha has never been a criteria for inclusion or noninclusion in Debian, as far as I know. Debian evaluates only the quality and policy conformance of the *package*, not the *packaged

Re: Removing Gnome [was: Removing Packages in Slink for Debian 2.1]

1998-10-16 Thread Michael Meskes
On Thu, Oct 15, 1998 at 02:24:53PM -0700, Marc Singer wrote: IMHO it is not appropriate to ship beta software under the guise of release software. If it is really desirable to ship gnome, it sould be categorized as ALPHA and installed only when a user explicitly requests it. I wonder what

Re: Removing Gnome [was: Removing Packages in Slink for Debian 2.1]

1998-10-16 Thread Havoc Pennington
On Fri, 16 Oct 1998, Craig Sanders wrote: maybe a compromise would be to leave the packages in slink, make sure the Description: field highlights their alpha status, and automatically close all non-packaging bugs (and forward them upstream if it makes sense to do so). I hope this is what

Re: Removing Gnome [was: Removing Packages in Slink for Debian 2.1]

1998-10-15 Thread Brian White
What do you think we should do with the Gnome stuff? The Gnome 0.30 stuff is still under rather heavy development. The current packages in Slink are pretty much alpha-quality. Lots of things don't work. It sounds like there will probably be a 1.0 release coming up in a few months that

Re: Removing Gnome [was: Removing Packages in Slink for Debian 2.1]

1998-10-15 Thread Stephen Crowley
On Thu, Oct 15, 1998 at 08:32:02AM -0400, Brian White wrote: What do you think we should do with the Gnome stuff? The Gnome 0.30 stuff is still under rather heavy development. The current packages in Slink are pretty much alpha-quality. Lots of things don't work. It sounds like there

Re: Removing Gnome [was: Removing Packages in Slink for Debian 2.1]

1998-10-15 Thread Marc Singer
On Thu, Oct 15, 1998 at 04:02:41PM -0500, Stephen Crowley wrote: On Thu, Oct 15, 1998 at 08:32:02AM -0400, Brian White wrote: What do you think we should do with the Gnome stuff? The Gnome 0.30 stuff is still under rather heavy development. The current packages in Slink are pretty

Re: Removing Gnome [was: Removing Packages in Slink for Debian 2.1]

1998-10-15 Thread Havoc Pennington
On Thu, 15 Oct 1998, Marc Singer wrote: I think that keeping it on the CD is spurious because the CD represents what we know works. Packages that don't work can be downloaded from the FTP servers by the people who want to fuss with them. Gnome is high profile because it has fancy