Re: revised proposed solution (was Re: Bug#15859: libc6 in stable is horribly broken)

1997-12-15 Thread Chris Fearnley
'Remco Blaakmeer wrote:' On Sat, 13 Dec 1997, David Engel wrote: Definitely not! libc5-dev implies that libc5 is the default compilation environment installed in /usr/include. Sorry, I must have been half asleep when I wrote the above. libc5-altdev doesn't have to conflict with either

Re: revised proposed solution (was Re: Bug#15859: libc6 in stable is horribly broken)

1997-12-14 Thread Chris Fearnley
'Scott K. Ellis wrote:' On Fri, 12 Dec 1997, Chris Fearnley wrote: Why can't we do the following: In both bo-updates and hamm: libc5: No conflicts, no depends (predepends on ldso, of course) (solves the problem of not being able to upgrade easily) [...] This still forces people

Re: revised proposed solution (was Re: Bug#15859: libc6 in stable is horribly broken)

1997-12-14 Thread Remco Blaakmeer
On Sat, 13 Dec 1997, David Engel wrote: On Sat, Dec 13, 1997 at 11:47:50AM -0500, Scott K. Ellis wrote: On Sat, 13 Dec 1997, Remco Blaakmeer wrote: hamm: libc5-altdev, depends on hamm-libc5, OK. conflicts with bo-libc5-dev and hamm-libc6-dev, Unnecessary. provides

revised proposed solution (was Re: Bug#15859: libc6 in stable is horribly broken)

1997-12-13 Thread Chris Fearnley
'Martin Mitchell wrote:' If they want to remain with a libc5 development environment, they have two choices, stay with bo, or use altdev from hamm. You regard utmp corruption as a minor issue, I would not, especially if I expected that staying with mainly bo would give me a stable system. No one

Re: revised proposed solution (was Re: Bug#15859: libc6 in stable is horribly broken)

1997-12-13 Thread Scott K. Ellis
On Fri, 12 Dec 1997, Chris Fearnley wrote: 'Martin Mitchell wrote:' If they want to remain with a libc5 development environment, they have two choices, stay with bo, or use altdev from hamm. You regard utmp corruption as a minor issue, I would not, especially if I expected that staying with

Re: revised proposed solution (was Re: Bug#15859: libc6 in stable is horribly broken)

1997-12-13 Thread Remco Blaakmeer
On Sat, 13 Dec 1997, Scott K. Ellis wrote: On Fri, 12 Dec 1997, Chris Fearnley wrote: Why can't we do the following: In both bo-updates and hamm: libc5: No conflicts, no depends (predepends on ldso, of course) (solves the problem of not being able to upgrade easily) In

Re: revised proposed solution (was Re: Bug#15859: libc6 in stable is horribly broken)

1997-12-13 Thread David Engel
On Sat, Dec 13, 1997 at 01:06:07AM -0500, Scott K. Ellis wrote: On Sat, 13 Dec 1997, Remco Blaakmeer wrote: Would it? What if they would also upgrade their libc5-dev to the same version as the libc5 in hamm? Would that help? In the past these two packages always had to have the same

Re: revised proposed solution (was Re: Bug#15859: libc6 in stable is horribly broken)

1997-12-13 Thread Scott K. Ellis
On Sat, 13 Dec 1997, David Engel wrote: On Sat, Dec 13, 1997 at 01:06:07AM -0500, Scott K. Ellis wrote: On Sat, 13 Dec 1997, Remco Blaakmeer wrote: Would it? What if they would also upgrade their libc5-dev to the same version as the libc5 in hamm? Would that help? In the past these two

Re: revised proposed solution (was Re: Bug#15859: libc6 in stable is horribly broken)

1997-12-13 Thread Guy Maor
David Engel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So find someone to modify the libc5 in hamm to build both -dev and -altdev packages. It isn't that hard. That's really the only workable solution. David, I do think you ought to add the Conflicts to older versions of libc5 to libc6. This will prevent

Re: revised proposed solution (was Re: Bug#15859: libc6 in stable is horribly broken)

1997-12-13 Thread Remco Blaakmeer
On Sat, 13 Dec 1997, Scott K. Ellis wrote: On Sat, 13 Dec 1997, Remco Blaakmeer wrote: On Sat, 13 Dec 1997, Scott K. Ellis wrote: This still forces people installing libc6 to upgrade libc5 past a version that can be used with libc5-dev. Would it? What if they would also upgrade

Re: revised proposed solution (was Re: Bug#15859: libc6 in stable is horribly broken)

1997-12-13 Thread Scott K. Ellis
On Sat, 13 Dec 1997, Remco Blaakmeer wrote: On Sat, 13 Dec 1997, Scott K. Ellis wrote: The problem is that libc5-dev doesn't exist in hamm. Hamm has libc5-altdev instead. This forces people who want to compile libc5 stuff into the altgcc/lib*-altdev mode, requiring the mass removal and

Re: revised proposed solution (was Re: Bug#15859: libc6 in stable is horribly broken)

1997-12-13 Thread David Engel
On Sat, Dec 13, 1997 at 01:37:04AM -0500, Scott K. Ellis wrote: So find someone to modify the libc5 in hamm to build both -dev and -altdev packages. It isn't that hard. Trust me, if I thought I was competant enough to do so, I would. However, I don't trust myself not to break such an

Re: revised proposed solution (was Re: Bug#15859: libc6 in stable is horribly broken)

1997-12-13 Thread David Engel
On Sat, Dec 13, 1997 at 11:47:50AM -0500, Scott K. Ellis wrote: On Sat, 13 Dec 1997, Remco Blaakmeer wrote: hamm: libc5-altdev, depends on hamm-libc5, OK. conflicts with bo-libc5-dev and hamm-libc6-dev, Unnecessary. provides (probably) libc5-dev Definitely not! libc5-dev