Re: debug preseed d-i ?

2006-06-07 Thread Eric Seigne
Eric Seigne a écrit : Bonjour, ça fait plusieurs jours que je tourne en rond, je n'arrive pas à faire un preseed correct pour faire une auto-installation qui ne pose pas de questions (partitions automatiques, paquets etc.). Ce qui me met le plus en boule c'est que je n'arrive pas à trouver un

Re: Summary of Debconf i18n/l10n activities

2006-06-07 Thread Otavio Salvador
Gustavo Franco [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 6/6/06, Otavio Salvador [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gustavo Franco [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Agreed. Btw, it would be better keep Etch package descriptions updated during its support cycle, but i think it's impossible with the infrascture we've,

Re: Summary of Debconf i18n/l10n activities

2006-06-07 Thread Otavio Salvador
Gustavo Franco [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Nice, thanks. While we're at this subject, what's your view on the Ubuntu language packs? Are we going to extract the translations from the packages creating language packs? It has pros and cons, and the best thing i see is the possibility to keep

Re: Summary of Debconf i18n/l10n activities

2006-06-07 Thread Christian Perrier
They did with the wiki content, probably they will do the same thing or something similar with Rosetta translations. The question is if it will be free. Everything related to Rosetta is currently assumed by me of *not* being free. The real problem, is that we have reports of people

Re: Sun Java available from non-free

2006-06-07 Thread George Danchev
On Wednesday 07 June 2006 05:11, Anthony Towns wrote: On Tue, Jun 06, 2006 at 11:34:10PM +0100, MJ Ray wrote: Anthony Towns aj@azure.humbug.org.au [...] And people are welcome to hold that opinion and speak about it all they like, but the way Debian makes the actual call on whether a

Re: Hidden files

2006-06-07 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Klaus Ethgen [EMAIL PROTECTED] There are two reasons not to use hidden files in /usr, /var, /dev and other: 1. It generates false positives (as mention before). And to many false positives only ends in overlook the real bad files and directories. 2. There is absolutely no

Re: Sun Java available from non-free

2006-06-07 Thread MJ Ray
Marco d'Itri [EMAIL PROTECTED] In linux.debian.legal MJ Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The package maintainer did not ask debian-legal (serious bug) and I'm They do not need to. No, there's no absolute *need* to do that, or to follow any of the other directions in debian policy, but it's usually

Re: GCC 4.1 now the default GCC version for etch

2006-06-07 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Matthias Klose [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-06-07 02:20]: We did pick two compiler warnings and scanned the build logs of one archive rebuild on alpha (64bit), where wrong code may be generated. These warnings can be found in 1600 packages [4]; they are: [4]

Re: Hidden files

2006-06-07 Thread Adam Borowski
On Wed, Jun 07, 2006 at 12:02:23AM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Just as /etc/bashrc is not hidden, whereas ~/.bashrc is, *why* should any *system* files be hidden? IMO dotfiles are a historical artifact which we are stuck with. If we were just starting

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Re: Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-06-07 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Wed, Jun 07, 2006 at 01:22:56AM +0100, Wookey wrote: I have no idea what it would take to persuade you that I am who I say I am, but if you _only_ accept National Passports then it would appear to be impossible in my case (which I realise is something of a corner-case). I would probably

Re: Sun Java available from non-free

2006-06-07 Thread MJ Ray
Anthony Towns aj@azure.humbug.org.au On Tue, Jun 06, 2006 at 11:34:10PM +0100, MJ Ray wrote: The package maintainer did not ask debian-legal (serious bug)=20 That's mistaken. debian-legal is a useful source of advice, not a decision making body. That's precisely as it should be, since there

Re: Sun Java available from non-free

2006-06-07 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Wed, Jun 07, 2006 at 09:23:07AM +0100, MJ Ray wrote: Marco d'Itri [EMAIL PROTECTED] In linux.debian.legal MJ Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The package maintainer did not ask debian-legal (serious bug) and I'm They do not need to. No, there's no absolute *need* to do that, or to follow

Re: Sun Java available from non-free

2006-06-07 Thread Daniel Stone
On Wed, Jun 07, 2006 at 09:41:27AM +0100, MJ Ray wrote: Anthony Towns aj@azure.humbug.org.au [...] If people have weighed the costs and benefits of contacting -legal and decided not to, that's entirely their choice. Yes, that package maintainer may choose to ignore all of policy. It's

Re: Hidden files

2006-06-07 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Wed, Jun 07, 2006 at 10:45:28AM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: This argument is valid only for configuration. There are more reasons to have files which are not displayed unless you ask for them. For example: * .svn Storing this metadata somewhere else would mean you have to

Re: Sun Java available from non-free

2006-06-07 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Wed, Jun 07, 2006 at 09:41:27AM +0100, MJ Ray wrote: Anthony Towns aj@azure.humbug.org.au Is there even any dispute that the DLJ indemnity seeks to overturn all the no warranty statements in debian and leave the licensee liable for the effects of everything in our operating system?

Re: Summary of Debconf i18n/l10n activities

2006-06-07 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Tue, Jun 06, 2006 at 03:21:45PM -0300, Gustavo Franco wrote: Nice, thanks. While we're at this subject, what's your view on the Ubuntu language packs? Are we going to extract the translations from the packages creating language packs? It has pros and cons, and the best thing i see is the

Re: Sun Java available from non-free

2006-06-07 Thread George Danchev
On Wednesday 07 June 2006 12:34, Wouter Verhelst wrote: On Wed, Jun 07, 2006 at 09:41:27AM +0100, MJ Ray wrote: Anthony Towns aj@azure.humbug.org.au Is there even any dispute that the DLJ indemnity seeks to overturn all the no warranty statements in debian and leave the licensee

Re: Debian Light Desktop - meta package

2006-06-07 Thread Jérôme Warnier
Le mercredi 07 juin 2006 à 02:15 +0200, Axel Beckert a écrit : Hi! I'm creating a meta package for install a lite desktop for old machines with poor hardware. Hey, that's a really cool idea! Debian is one of the last modern (and not specialised) Linux distribution feasible for old and

Re: Who can make binding legal agreements

2006-06-07 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
On 6/7/06, Thomas Bushnell BSG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Russ Allbery [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John Goerzen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sure. SPI owns many of the machines that Debian owns. If any of these machines are being used to distribute this software, as I think is likely, then SPI

Re: Sun Java available from non-free

2006-06-07 Thread MJ Ray
Wouter Verhelst [EMAIL PROTECTED] The guideline to ask debian-legal is not enforced by policy, but suggested by the Developer's Reference. Please don't confuse things by introducing the DevRef to this. An instruction to mail debian-legal about doubtful copyrights is in policy s2.3. It is a

Re: Debian Light Desktop - meta package

2006-06-07 Thread Jon Dowland
At 1149646535 past the epoch, Axel Beckert wrote: Why gdm and not wdm? gdm depends on a horribly large bunch of libraries including GNOME. wdm depends on way less libraries, looks not as bare as xdm by default does and still is fast and easy to use. (We use it on all our Debian workstations

Re: Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-06-07 Thread Wookey
+++ Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña [06-05-25 20:00 +0200]: That being said I (personally) already decided ...[people] not showing any passports or showing passports: - which did not had the *same* spelling as the name in the key (letter by letter) will not get a signature from me.

Re: Sun Java available from non-free

2006-06-07 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Wed, Jun 07, 2006 at 11:29:33AM +0100, MJ Ray wrote: Wouter Verhelst [EMAIL PROTECTED] The guideline to ask debian-legal is not enforced by policy, but suggested by the Developer's Reference. Please don't confuse things by introducing the DevRef to this. Right, so I was mistaken. An

Re: Sun Java available from non-free

2006-06-07 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Wed, Jun 07, 2006 at 12:51:25PM +0300, George Danchev wrote: On Wednesday 07 June 2006 12:34, Wouter Verhelst wrote: What I cannot imagine is a case where an upstream change would result in only Sun's Java to break rather than a whole bunch of applications (so they would most likely be

Re: Who can make binding legal agreements

2006-06-07 Thread Anthony Towns
On Wed, Jun 07, 2006 at 02:04:18PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: On Tue, Jun 06, 2006 at 09:35:41PM -0500, John Goerzen wrote: On Wed, Jun 07, 2006 at 12:02:16PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: The ability to enter into a legal contract to indemnify a third party should be, and arguably IS,

Re: Sun Java available from non-free

2006-06-07 Thread MJ Ray
Daniel Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] debian-legal, OTOH, claims that not only is the stock MIT/X11 licence 'non-free', but 'it is impractical to work with such software'. I don't believe that those claims are consensual on debian-legal. The MIT/X11 licence is frequently recommended by participants,

Re: Sun Java available from non-free

2006-06-07 Thread MJ Ray
Wouter Verhelst [EMAIL PROTECTED] No, it doesn't say that: it says If in doubt, send mail to -legal. It doesn't say if the license is doubtful, which is a different matter entirely. We've been told both James and Jeroen extensive contact with Sun to ensure that the tricky clauses were actually

Re: Sun Java available from non-free

2006-06-07 Thread Mike Bird
On Wednesday 07 June 2006 04:30, Wouter Verhelst wrote: On Wed, Jun 07, 2006 at 12:51:25PM +0300, George Danchev wrote: On Wednesday 07 June 2006 12:34, Wouter Verhelst wrote: What I cannot imagine is a case where an upstream change would result in only Sun's Java to break rather than a

Re: Who can make binding legal agreements

2006-06-07 Thread John Goerzen
On Wed, Jun 07, 2006 at 11:59:02AM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: This is definitely wrong. SPI should not be involved in licence approval. Firstly, because licence approval is often a political decision for Debian. And secondly because SPI is not the licencee and it is very important for this

Re: Who can make binding legal agreements

2006-06-07 Thread John Goerzen
On Wed, Jun 07, 2006 at 12:02:04PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: John Goerzen writes (Re: Who can make binding legal agreements): The first paragraph of the license linked to by the original announcement: SUN MICROSYSTEMS, INC. (SUN) IS WILLING TO LICENSE THE JAVA PLATFORM STANDARD EDITION

Re: Who can make binding legal agreements

2006-06-07 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mercredi 07 juin 2006 à 14:04 +1000, Anthony Towns a écrit : I don't understand why, as SPI President, you'd bring up concerns regarding SPI's legal position in the middle of a thread on -devel and -legal, without having discussed it on spi-board, having consulted SPI's attorney as to the

Re: Debian Light Desktop - meta package

2006-06-07 Thread Axel Beckert
Hi! On Wed, Jun 07, 2006 at 12:21:13PM +0200, Jérôme Warnier wrote: (the graphics card is no more supported in XFree 4.x and there no more supported in Sarge) to get it running. To my knowledge, at some point, the XFree86 Team treated the no-longer-existing-in-4.x drivers as bugs. Thanks

Re: Sun Java available from non-free

2006-06-07 Thread MJ Ray
Wouter Verhelst [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Wed, Jun 07, 2006 at 09:41:27AM +0100, MJ Ray wrote: Cool. Where is this effect of sections 2(f)(i) and 14 disputed? I've seen repeated claims that we're not liable for Sun's changes and downstream changes, but not upstream changes of parts of the

Re: Who can make binding legal agreements

2006-06-07 Thread John Goerzen
On Wed, Jun 07, 2006 at 02:04:18PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: On Tue, Jun 06, 2006 at 09:35:41PM -0500, John Goerzen wrote: Nobody was suggesting that, and I fail to understand why it is in anyone's interests for you to ratchet up the heat on this issue another notch by making remarks like

Re: Sun Java available from non-free

2006-06-07 Thread George Danchev
On Wednesday 07 June 2006 14:30, Wouter Verhelst wrote: On Wed, Jun 07, 2006 at 12:51:25PM +0300, George Danchev wrote: On Wednesday 07 June 2006 12:34, Wouter Verhelst wrote: What I cannot imagine is a case where an upstream change would result in only Sun's Java to break rather than a

Re: Who can make binding legal agreements

2006-06-07 Thread John Goerzen
On Tue, Jun 06, 2006 at 09:05:20PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: I think these are all very reasonable statements. Not being an ftp-master, it's not really my decision to make, but my personal opinion is that the above is good advice and the closer we can make the relationship between SPI's

Re: Sun Java available from non-free

2006-06-07 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Wed, Jun 07, 2006 at 05:45:27AM -0700, Mike Bird wrote: On Wednesday 07 June 2006 04:30, Wouter Verhelst wrote: On Wed, Jun 07, 2006 at 12:51:25PM +0300, George Danchev wrote: On Wednesday 07 June 2006 12:34, Wouter Verhelst wrote: What I cannot imagine is a case where an upstream

Re: Sun Java available from non-free

2006-06-07 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Wed, Jun 07, 2006 at 05:08:40PM +0300, George Danchev wrote: On Wednesday 07 June 2006 14:30, Wouter Verhelst wrote: On Wed, Jun 07, 2006 at 12:51:25PM +0300, George Danchev wrote: If you are not misguided, then why DLJ license creators put texts like: the use or distribution of

Re: Sun Java available from non-free

2006-06-07 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Wed, Jun 07, 2006 at 02:38:55PM +0100, MJ Ray wrote: Wouter Verhelst [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Wed, Jun 07, 2006 at 09:41:27AM +0100, MJ Ray wrote: Cool. Where is this effect of sections 2(f)(i) and 14 disputed? I've seen repeated claims that we're not liable for Sun's changes and

Re: Sun Java available from non-free

2006-06-07 Thread Michael Poole
Wouter Verhelst writes: On Wed, Jun 07, 2006 at 02:38:55PM +0100, MJ Ray wrote: Wouter Verhelst [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Wed, Jun 07, 2006 at 09:41:27AM +0100, MJ Ray wrote: Cool. Where is this effect of sections 2(f)(i) and 14 disputed? I've seen repeated claims that we're not liable

Bug#371070: ITP: libwiki-toolkit-plugin-locator-grid-perl -- A Wiki::Toolkit plugin to manage co-ordinate data

2006-06-07 Thread Dominic Hargreaves
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Dominic Hargreaves [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Package name: libwiki-toolkit-plugin-locator-grid-perl Version : 0.05 Upstream Author : The Wiki::Toolkit team * URL : http://www.wiki-toolkit.org/ * License : Dual GPL/Artistic

Bug#371075: ITP: libwiki-toolkit-plugin-diff-perl -- format differences between two Wiki::Toolkit pages

2006-06-07 Thread Dominic Hargreaves
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Dominic Hargreaves [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Package name: libwiki-toolkit-plugin-diff-perl Version : 0.10 Upstream Author : The Wiki::Toolkit team * URL : http://search.cpan.org/dist/Wiki-Toolkit-Plugin-Diff/ * License : Dual

Re: Real Life hits: need to give up packages for adoption

2006-06-07 Thread Christoph Haas
On Wed, Jun 07, 2006 at 12:25:27AM -0400, Anthony DeRobertis wrote: Christoph Haas wrote: Yes, of course. Besides some minor things I don't quite like about Subversion ([...] getting out old revisions of a file means typing the full URL for no reason) svn cat -rrev file_name Oh,

Re: Sun Java available from non-free

2006-06-07 Thread George Danchev
On Wednesday 07 June 2006 18:18, Wouter Verhelst wrote: On Wed, Jun 07, 2006 at 05:08:40PM +0300, George Danchev wrote: On Wednesday 07 June 2006 14:30, Wouter Verhelst wrote: On Wed, Jun 07, 2006 at 12:51:25PM +0300, George Danchev wrote: If you are not misguided, then why DLJ license

Re: Sun Java available from non-free

2006-06-07 Thread MJ Ray
Wouter Verhelst [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Wed, Jun 07, 2006 at 02:38:55PM +0100, MJ Ray wrote: Why do I need a case where some other application breaks? The indemnification is for problems in the Operating System, not only for Sun Java. Right. And what's wrong with that? Why do you think it's

Re: Debian Light Desktop - meta package

2006-06-07 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Mittwoch, 7. Juni 2006 02:15 schrieb Axel Beckert: + The dropping of the 2.4 kernel line: This will drop AFAIK support   for e.g. active ISDN cards. The other way round: active cards are still supported as before, at least the AVM B1 cards and all others that already support CAPI. What

Re: Debian Light Desktop - meta package

2006-06-07 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Mittwoch, 7. Juni 2006 15:21 schrieb Axel Beckert: I have a laptop with a GD 7543 chip. And I won't throw away a working laptop just because its graphics card isn't supported and can't be exchanged either. What about using the vesa of fbdev drivers? Maybe slow but working. HS

Re: Summary of Debconf i18n/l10n activities

2006-06-07 Thread Gustavo Franco
On 6/7/06, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Jun 06, 2006 at 03:21:45PM -0300, Gustavo Franco wrote: Nice, thanks. While we're at this subject, what's your view on the Ubuntu language packs? Are we going to extract the translations from the packages creating

Re: Who can make binding legal agreements

2006-06-07 Thread Christian Perrier
Well, when the DPL is ignoring the developers' opinions, why would the s/the/some of the/ ? signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Sun Java available from non-free

2006-06-07 Thread Ian Jackson
Mike Bird writes (Re: Sun Java available from non-free): Non-freeness is a red herring. The issue is that a small cabal - - a small cabal operating outside its field of expertise - has placed Debian in the position of indemnifying Sun. This is obviously not possible. Debian is not a legal

Re: Sun Java available from non-free

2006-06-07 Thread Ian Jackson
John Goerzen writes (Re: Sun Java available from non-free): Also, I should add that agreeing to a license that commits SPI to indemnify Sun Who is purporting to commit SPI to indemnifying Sun ? AFAICT ftpmasters are indemnifying Sun. This is silly of them but probably not actually fatal.

Re: Who can make binding legal agreements

2006-06-07 Thread Jon Kåre Hellan
OK, I'll chime in. I just hope I'm not making matters worse. First, obligatory disclaimers: I'm not a lawyer, I'm not a Debian developer, I'm not a new maintainer applicant either. And I'm certainly not going to make demands on anybody. I'm a resident of Norway, so that is the legal system I

Re: Who can make binding legal agreements

2006-06-07 Thread Ian Jackson
John Goerzen writes (Re: Who can make binding legal agreements): First, I don't believe that SPI has ever granted anyone the ability to enter into legally-binding agreements to indemnify (which means to use our resources to defend) third parties. I may be mistaken, though. Could you please

Re: Who can make binding legal agreements

2006-06-07 Thread Ian Jackson
John Goerzen writes (Re: Who can make binding legal agreements): The first paragraph of the license linked to by the original announcement: SUN MICROSYSTEMS, INC. (SUN) IS WILLING TO LICENSE THE JAVA PLATFORM STANDARD EDITION DEVELOPER KIT (JDK - THE SOFTWARE) TO YOU ONLY Yes, but who is

Re: Non-DD's in debian-legal

2006-06-07 Thread Ian Jackson
Jeremy Hankins writes (Non-DD's in debian-legal): I'm not sure I understand this part, though. Do you think that folks like myself, who are not DD's, should not participate in the discussions on d-l? Actually, I think they should not participate, in general. The arguments that are had on

Re: Who can make binding legal agreements

2006-06-07 Thread Joe Smith
Martijn van Oosterhout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 6/7/06, Thomas Bushnell BSG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Russ Allbery [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John Goerzen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sure. SPI owns many of the machines that Debian owns. If any of these

GBit performance problem with nfs client

2006-06-07 Thread Gordon Grubert
Dear Debian developers, it seems that there is a little problem with the NFS client in Debian sarge. I hope this is the best place to post this problem. I have discussed this on http://lists.debian.org/debian-user-german/2006/06/msg00130.html before but no solution has been found. The

Re: GBit performance problem with nfs client

2006-06-07 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Wed, 07 Jun 2006, Gordon Grubert wrote: I have a file server running on Sarge AMD64 connected with a 1GBit interface to a GBit uplink off the switch. Do not think that this sounds like a common problem. It isn't!!! ... The most interesting fact is, that I obtain about 10MB/s with my

Bug#371836: ITP: libwiki-toolkit-plugin-categoriser-perl -- Category management for Wiki::Toolkit

2006-06-07 Thread Dominic Hargreaves
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Dominic Hargreaves [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Package name: libwiki-toolkit-plugin-categoriser-perl Version : 0.04 Upstream Author : The Wiki::Toolkit team [EMAIL PROTECTED] * URL :

Bug#371838: ITP: libwiki-toolkit-plugin-rss-reader-perl -- retrieve RSS feeds for inclusion in Wiki::Toolkit nodes

2006-06-07 Thread Dominic Hargreaves
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Dominic Hargreaves [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Package name: libwiki-toolkit-plugin-rss-reader-perl Version : 1.5 Upstream Author : The Wiki::Toolkit team [EMAIL PROTECTED] * URL :

severities of blocking bugs

2006-06-07 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
I have always thought that when bug X is blocking bug Y, the severity of bug X should be at least as big as the severity of bug Y. I have recently been told by a maintainer that my logic in this regard is faulty. Is it? Thomas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of

Re: severities of blocking bugs

2006-06-07 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Wed, 07 Jun 2006, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: I have always thought that when bug X is blocking bug Y, the severity of bug X should be at least as big as the severity of bug Y. I have recently been told by a maintainer that my logic in this regard is faulty. Is it? Depends on how you are

Re: severities of blocking bugs

2006-06-07 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, 07 Jun 2006, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: I have always thought that when bug X is blocking bug Y, the severity of bug X should be at least as big as the severity of bug Y. I have recently been told by a maintainer that my logic in

Re: Debian Light Desktop - meta package

2006-06-07 Thread Jérôme Warnier
Le mercredi 07 juin 2006 à 19:04 +0200, Hendrik Sattler a écrit : Am Mittwoch, 7. Juni 2006 15:21 schrieb Axel Beckert: I have a laptop with a GD 7543 chip. And I won't throw away a working laptop just because its graphics card isn't supported and can't be exchanged either. What about

Re: Who can make binding legal agreements

2006-06-07 Thread Bill Allombert
On Wed, Jun 07, 2006 at 09:46:57PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: And hi to everyone from /.! http://linux.slashdot.org/linux/06/06/07/047204.shtml for those playing along at home. If you wanted to avoid publicity, not announcing the inclusion of 'Sun Java' on debian-devel-announce would have

toward

2006-06-07 Thread Ernie Barry
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Re: severities of blocking bugs

2006-06-07 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Jun 07, 2006 at 07:08:00PM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: On Wed, 07 Jun 2006, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: I have always thought that when bug X is blocking bug Y, the severity of bug X should be at least as big as the severity of bug Y. I have recently been told by a

Re: severities of blocking bugs

2006-06-07 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Thomas Bushnell BSG [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Henrique de Moraes Holschuh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, 07 Jun 2006, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: I have always thought that when bug X is blocking bug Y, the severity of bug X should be at least as big as the severity of bug Y. I have

Re: GCC 4.1 now the default GCC version for etch

2006-06-07 Thread Darren Salt
I demand that Martin Michlmayr may or may not have written... * Matthias Klose [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-06-07 02:20]: We did pick two compiler warnings and scanned the build logs of one archive rebuild on alpha (64bit), where wrong code may be generated. These warnings can be found in 1600

Re: Who can make binding legal agreements

2006-06-07 Thread Matthew Garrett
Bill Allombert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Given the above link point to your post, you can only blame yourself for its content. It's not strictly necessary to bitch about Anthony's actions at every opportunity. If you disagree with his course of actions, perhaps dropping him a private mail

Re: Hidden files

2006-06-07 Thread Darren Salt
I demand that Henning Makholm may or may not have written... [snip] But I don't think I have ever used ls from an interactive shell _without_ the -a flag. I use -A rather than -a - it filters out . and ... -- | Darren Salt| linux or ds at | nr. Ashington, | Toon | RISC OS,

Re: Hidden files

2006-06-07 Thread Jorgen Schaefer
Henning Makholm [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But I don't think I have ever used ls from an interactive shell _without_ the -a flag. I use -a (or -A) very, very rarely. (Not that I don't agree that the concept of hidden files should be replaced by using ~/etc/ for dotfile, but when we do this, we

Re: severities of blocking bugs

2006-06-07 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Nope. A corner-case bug in a compiler may break compilation of a single package. The build failure of this package is a serious bug for this package; it is not a serious bug for the compiler. Well, except that it seems to me that any code generation

Re: GCC 4.1 now the default GCC version for etch

2006-06-07 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Jun 07, 2006 at 10:28:29AM +0200, Martin Michlmayr wrote: * Matthias Klose [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-06-07 02:20]: We did pick two compiler warnings and scanned the build logs of one archive rebuild on alpha (64bit), where wrong code may be generated. These warnings can be found in

Re: severities of blocking bugs

2006-06-07 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Goswin von Brederlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You probably hit a soft spot there because suddenly the bug became RC and blocks the package from entering testing. The destinction between normal and important is purely visual while serious and above have real effects. This may be true, but it

Re: Debian Light Desktop - meta package

2006-06-07 Thread Axel Beckert
On Wed, Jun 07, 2006 at 07:04:40PM +0200, Hendrik Sattler wrote: Am Mittwoch, 7. Juni 2006 15:21 schrieb Axel Beckert: I have a laptop with a GD 7543 chip. And I won't throw away a working laptop just because its graphics card isn't supported and can't be exchanged either. What about

Re: severities of blocking bugs

2006-06-07 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Jun 07, 2006 at 04:42:37PM -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Nope. A corner-case bug in a compiler may break compilation of a single package. The build failure of this package is a serious bug for this package; it is not a serious bug for

Re: GCC 4.1 now the default GCC version for etch

2006-06-07 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Mittwoch, 7. Juni 2006 10:28 schrieb Martin Michlmayr: Hendrik Sattler   obexftp 0.19-4 Those can be ignored for now, as they are double casts: uint32_t - char* - int Not nice but won't harm, I guess (or do we have 16bit architectures?). And not related to GCC-4.1 at all. HS

One can not guess if somebody is willing to accept private mails or not...

2006-06-07 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Wed, Jun 07, 2006 at 11:32:36PM +0100, Matthew Garrett a écrit : Bill Allombert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Given the above link point to your post, you can only blame yourself for its content. It's not strictly necessary to bitch about Anthony's actions at every opportunity. If you

Re: Sun Java available from non-free

2006-06-07 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Jun 07, 2006 at 12:13:16PM +0300, Daniel Stone wrote: On Wed, Jun 07, 2006 at 09:41:27AM +0100, MJ Ray wrote: Anthony Towns aj@azure.humbug.org.au [...] If people have weighed the costs and benefits of contacting -legal and decided not to, that's entirely their choice. Yes,

Re: One can not guess if somebody is willing to accept private mails or not...

2006-06-07 Thread Matthew Garrett
Charles Plessy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the early 2006, I complained privately about the sarcastic tone of one of the answers he made to me on -devel, and I guess that I hurted him more strongly than if I had done this publicly, because I received insults on his blog in return. I said

Re: severities of blocking bugs

2006-06-07 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On 7 Jun 2006, Thomas Bushnell verbalised: I have always thought that when bug X is blocking bug Y, the severity of bug X should be at least as big as the severity of bug Y. I don't think so. I have recently been told by a maintainer that my logic in this regard is faulty. Is it?

Re: Debian Light Desktop - meta package

2006-06-07 Thread Miles Bader
Jérôme Warnier [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: To my knowledge, at some point, the XFree86 Team treated the no-longer-existing-in-4.x drivers as bugs. They requested anybody who noticed that its graphics card worked with previous versions of XFree86 but no longer with 4.x to submit a bug and it

Re: Who can make binding legal agreements

2006-06-07 Thread Anthony Towns
On Wed, Jun 07, 2006 at 12:15:12PM -0500, Bill Allombert wrote: On Wed, Jun 07, 2006 at 09:46:57PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: And hi to everyone from /.! http://linux.slashdot.org/linux/06/06/07/047204.shtml for those playing along at home. If you wanted to avoid publicity, not

Re: Who can make binding legal agreements

2006-06-07 Thread Anthony Towns
On Wed, Jun 07, 2006 at 09:07:07AM -0500, John Goerzen wrote: So what am I trying to do? Most importantly, make sure that SPI and Debian aren't exposed to serious legal risks. Then why don't you contact Greg and the SPI board yourself? As I've said already, I don't want SPI to be involved in

Re: Non-DD's in debian-legal

2006-06-07 Thread Anthony Towns
On Wed, Jun 07, 2006 at 12:18:04PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: Jeremy Hankins writes (Non-DD's in debian-legal): I'm not sure I understand this part, though. Do you think that folks like myself, who are not DD's, should not participate in the discussions on d-l? Actually, I think they

Re: GCC 4.1 now the default GCC version for etch

2006-06-07 Thread Mike Hommey
On Wed, Jun 07, 2006 at 10:28:29AM +0200, Martin Michlmayr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Matthias Klose [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-06-07 02:20]: We did pick two compiler warnings and scanned the build logs of one archive rebuild on alpha (64bit), where wrong code may be generated. These warnings

Accepted windows-el 2.40-2 (source all)

2006-06-07 Thread Hubert Chan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2006 21:02:31 -0400 Source: windows-el Binary: windows-el Architecture: source all Version: 2.40-2 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Hubert Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Hubert Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Accepted zvbi 0.2.22-1 (source all i386)

2006-06-07 Thread Christian Marillat
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2006 08:25:52 +0200 Source: zvbi Binary: libzvbi-dev zvbi libzvbi-common libzvbi-doc libzvbi0 Architecture: source all i386 Version: 0.2.22-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Christian Marillat [EMAIL

Accepted apt 0.6.44.1exp1 (source all i386)

2006-06-07 Thread Michael Vogt
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2006 19:31:31 +0200 Source: apt Binary: apt-utils libapt-pkg-doc libapt-pkg-dev apt-doc apt Architecture: source all i386 Version: 0.6.44.1exp1 Distribution: experimental Urgency: low Maintainer: APT Development Team

Accepted headache 1.03-6.1 (source all)

2006-06-07 Thread Ralf Treinen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2006 09:19:35 +0200 Source: headache Binary: headache Architecture: source all Version: 1.03-6.1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Sylvain Le Gall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Ralf Treinen [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Accepted biofox 1.1.2+0-1 (source all)

2006-06-07 Thread Nelson A. de Oliveira
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Wed, 10 May 2006 22:00:05 -0300 Source: biofox Binary: mozilla-biofox Architecture: source all Version: 1.1.2+0-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: medium Maintainer: Maintainers of Mozilla Bioinformatics Extensions [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Accepted nbd 1:2.8.5-1 (source i386)

2006-06-07 Thread Wouter Verhelst
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2006 10:26:30 +0200 Source: nbd Binary: nbd-client nbd-server Architecture: source i386 Version: 1:2.8.5-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Wouter Verhelst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Wouter Verhelst

Accepted traffic-vis 0.34-18 (source i386)

2006-06-07 Thread Samuele Giovanni Tonon
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2006 10:41:03 +0200 Source: traffic-vis Binary: traffic-vis Architecture: source i386 Version: 0.34-18 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Samuele Giovanni Tonon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Samuele Giovanni

Accepted gpiv 0.3.1-2 (source i386)

2006-06-07 Thread Gerber van der Graaf
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2006 13:03:04 +0200 Source: gpiv Binary: gpiv Architecture: source i386 Version: 0.3.1-2 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Gerber van der Graaf [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Gerber van der Graaf [EMAIL

Accepted bookmarkbridge 0.76-2 (source i386)

2006-06-07 Thread Masami Ichikawa
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2006 21:09:51 +0900 Source: bookmarkbridge Binary: bookmarkbridge Architecture: source i386 Version: 0.76-2 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Masami Ichikawa [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Masami Ichikawa

Accepted thaixfonts 1:1.2.5-2 (source all)

2006-06-07 Thread Theppitak Karoonboonyanan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2006 16:10:50 +0700 Source: thaixfonts Binary: xfonts-thai-nectec xfonts-thai xfonts-thai-manop xfonts-thai-vor xfonts-thai-etl xfonts-thai-poonlap Architecture: source all Version: 1:1.2.5-2 Distribution: unstable

Accepted zziplib 0.12.83-6 (source amd64)

2006-06-07 Thread Aurelien Jarno
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2006 14:31:12 +0200 Source: zziplib Binary: libzzip-0-12 libzzip-dev zziplib-bin Architecture: source amd64 Version: 0.12.83-6 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Aurelien Jarno [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By:

Accepted libdevel-cover-perl 0.55-2 (source i386)

2006-06-07 Thread Florian Ragwitz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2006 14:12:32 +0200 Source: libdevel-cover-perl Binary: libdevel-cover-perl Architecture: source i386 Version: 0.55-2 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Florian Ragwitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Florian

Accepted libmodule-scandeps-perl 0.60-1 (source all)

2006-06-07 Thread Florian Ragwitz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2006 14:11:55 +0200 Source: libmodule-scandeps-perl Binary: libmodule-scandeps-perl Architecture: source all Version: 0.60-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Florian Ragwitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By:

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