Michael Alan Dorman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
[ ... ] ld.so doesn't apply [ ... ]
Upgrade your quinn-diff :-) From 0.31's ChangeLog.main :-
| Sun Apr 12 21:33:14 1998 James Troup [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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| * Packages-arch-specific (ldso): exclude alpha.
(Maybe it should also be
On Sun, 26 Apr 1998, Stephen Carpenter wrote:
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A few days ago (maybe a week or so? I am too lazy to look back and
check...and it doesn't REALLY matter)
I mentioned an interest in xfstt which is listed as needing
a new maintainer and got no reply
xitalk is a useful program that enters itself into utmp and listens on a
pty for talk requests/ write(1)s. It can then be configured to start a
ytalk session automatically (taking the username from the talk request) or
perform some other action (e.g. play a sound).
James Troup [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Michael Alan Dorman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
[ ... ] ld.so doesn't apply [ ... ]
Upgrade your quinn-diff :-) From 0.31's ChangeLog.main :-
Yeah, but I've been meaning to feed back my changes in one block
rather than in dribs and drabs, no time, etc.
Chris Reed wrote:
xitalk is a useful program that enters itself into utmp and listens on a
pty for talk requests/ write(1)s. It can then be configured to start a
ytalk session automatically (taking the username from the talk request) or
perform some other
On Thu, Apr 30, 1998 at 01:49:06AM +0200, Remco Blaakmeer wrote:
If it is a patch to xfs that uses the freetype libs, I'd think it could be
incorporated into the xfs that is in the xbase package, but I wouldn't
care if it was implemented as a separate font server. Could you contact
Branden
You know, I think I would not mind seeing someone respond to these spams
with something that might get the point across that we don't want their
garbage.
I really think the lists should reject mail from those not subscribed.
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On 29 Apr 1998, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
Hi,
Dale == Dale Scheetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Dale The Policy Statement is a set of rules for the behavior of
Dale developers, set down by the ruling body, sometimes referred to
Dale as the government. When those rules are viewed as more
Dale
Richard Braakman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Lintian would have to parse that in order to get a full list, and it
doesn't do that (yet).
Another possibility would be to run a test install on some
machine, with strace examining the calls used during the
installation.
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Hi,
Philip == Philip Hands [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Philip 2) this is going way off topic, and has been quite tedious for
Philip some time.
OK. I give. And, on the principle that if you can't beat 'em,
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I agree with you on this... xfs probably should be separated...
Tho since I posted this I looked into xfstt again and
found out that it was indeed free to be taken (or at least thats
what the current maintainer led me to believe)...
I in fact have already
Marcelo E. Magallon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Alternatives, as I understood them, have to be command line compatible
because a situation like the one I just described is not desirable.
Alternatives have to be command line compatible, but that means you need
a defined interface that they all
On Thu, Apr 30, 1998 at 12:36:59AM +, Rev. Joseph Carter wrote:
I really think the lists should reject mail from those not subscribed.
I really don't. Sometimes it is convenient to post from locations other
than where I am subscribed. The email address I use is always valid,
but I don't need
Is there any reason we couldn't do a delayed debian-hamm-alpha release?
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The motif code in emacs is relatively new, and totally cosmetic.
Hm... in that case, I'm surprised it's there at all.
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I hope you are well aware of the fact that a lot of people will not
understand it, and probably will ask you about it. I can tell you that most
german readers may be confused. I don't know about other countries, but I
assume the situation is not very
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote:
The new version of IPlogger offers a new feature: when there is a TCP
connection attempt, [EMAIL PROTECTED] is now logged instead of host.
I think this is a non issue. Lots of servers do ident lookups, in particular
the tcp wrapper does so too.
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Dear Debian Folks,
I've been giving serious thought for a while to forming a new Linux
distribution. My reason is to fulfill some goals that currently are
not addressed by Debian or the commercial distributions.
I've posted my first message on this topic to debian-devel, as I think
a lot of you
Make it harder! From now on no new upstream versions to frozen. Cleaning
Incoming. 1. May is 'early beta' and 1. June is release time (to have some
more time for arch maintainers and testers).
Please let's not delay it that long if we can prevent it. I would
very much like to be
Rev. Joseph Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, Apr 30, 1998 at 01:49:06AM +0200, Remco Blaakmeer wrote:
Why is xfs in xbase at all? It's not required to use X. I would suggest
just pulling it out to its own package.
Careful when doing this that you don't break people's configurations
On Thu, Apr 30, 1998 at 12:22:58AM +, Rev. Joseph Carter wrote:
On Thu, Apr 30, 1998 at 01:49:06AM +0200, Remco Blaakmeer wrote:
If it is a patch to xfs that uses the freetype libs, I'd think it could be
incorporated into the xfs that is in the xbase package, but I wouldn't
care if it
Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
OK. I give. And, on the principle that if you can't beat 'em,
join 'em, I now agree with Jame Troup and Dale Scheetz and formally
declare that Policy does not govern may packages from this point on,
and shall close any policy related Bugs
Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Again, this happens not to be the case. I was perfectly happy
letting policy be policy until a well respected senior Debian
developer made statements to the effect Go right ahead and
violate policy. Thats what I do
And another
On Wed, Apr 29, 1998 at 10:14:18PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
Why is xfs in xbase at all? It's not required to use X. I would suggest
just pulling it out to its own package.
I eventually plan to do this. See the X Strike Force page.
http://master.debian.org/~branden/xsf.html
I
Andreas Jellinghaus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
from a first look at debian 2.0 i'm disappointed. ok, everything is moved to
glibc, and there are lots of new packages. but where is the enhancement ?
If I recall correctly, the stated goals of this release where upgrade
to glibc 2.0, and various
Bruce Perens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've been giving serious thought for a while to forming a new Linux
distribution. My reason is to fulfill some goals that currently are
not addressed by Debian or the commercial distributions.
I've posted my first message on this topic to debian-devel, as
On Wed, Apr 29, 1998 at 08:05:00PM -0700, Bruce Perens wrote:
I've been giving serious thought for a while to forming a new Linux
distribution. My reason is to fulfill some goals that currently are
not addressed by Debian or the commercial distributions.
Certainly no distribution can meet the
From: Raul Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(1) we probably don't want to talk about this in much depth on the
debian lists, since you've explicitly stated that it's not debian.
Please announce an alternative venue as soon as you can.
Right. It's not my intent to abuse the Debian lists. I'll try to
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I would like to agree with this...
in fact...I get about 200-500 e-mails a day between
3 debian lists (users, devel, and mentors) and BUGTRAQ
and on all of those lists...
I get more spam directly to my own personal adress than
to any list (course bugtraq is
On Wed, 29 Apr 1998, Bruce Perens wrote:
9. A Random List of Other Goals.
RPM as the package system - possibly with an APT port later on
(is that what it's called now?). It's necessary to get the other
distributions in on the project. We'd have to add a few missing
On Thu, Apr 30, 1998 at 05:10:54AM +, Rev. Joseph Carter wrote:
On Wed, Apr 29, 1998 at 08:05:00PM -0700, Bruce Perens wrote:
I've been giving serious thought for a while to forming a new Linux
distribution. My reason is to fulfill some goals that currently are
not addressed by Debian
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andreas Jellinghaus) writes:
my experience with new mkisofs (with joilet supprt) is, that -x doesn't work.
i found a solution : create a new directory as cd root, and copy everything
into that dir useing hardlinks. this doesn't waste a log of disk space,
and makes severel
Well, admittedly I am rather suprised at this.
Although Bruce's post is so calmly worded that it is difficult to find
fault, a bird's eye view of his actions produces a scene that really
makes me wonder. The most revolting thing to me is that this whole tantrum
stems from the fact that Manoj
dpkg -s dosemu says:
Package: dosemu
Status: install ok installed
Priority: extra
Section: contrib
Installed-Size: 1799
Maintainer: Herbert Xu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Version: 0.66.7-10
Depends: libc6, slang0.99.38, xlib6g (= 3.3-5)
...
However, the copyright file says:
...
This program is free
Bruce Perens writes:
I think Debian's drifted too far from the mainstream of Linux
to continue to fulfill this purpose. A non-commercial
I'm sorry, Bruce, but could you give us some details about this. Where has
Debian drifted from the mainstream?
4. Maintaining the Open Source
Manoj,
Was my previous mail really that annoying ? If so, I apologise profusely (I
was fairly tired at the time I wrote it, so may have started to be rather more
argumentative that I meant to be)
I think we actually hold fairly similar opinions about this subject. Did you
ever see my
On Wed, Apr 29, 1998 at 08:05:00PM -0700, Bruce Perens wrote:
Dear Debian Folks,
I've been giving serious thought for a while to forming a new Linux
distribution. My reason is to fulfill some goals that currently are
not addressed by Debian or the commercial distributions.
I really don't
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote:
dpkg -s dosemu says:
Package: dosemu
Status: install ok installed
Priority: extra
Section: contrib
Installed-Size: 1799
Maintainer: Herbert Xu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Version: 0.66.7-10
Depends: libc6, slang0.99.38, xlib6g (= 3.3-5)
...
Not my fault.
Herbert Xu wrote:
Not my fault. I can't even find the word contrib in my debian/ directory.
I'd assume it's a bad override file, then. Talk to Guy.
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Hi.
Just to make things clearer: If Chris asked you to maintain mawk and gawk
for him, I have no objections.
I was just a little bit annoyed because I already asked Chris the
maintenance of gawk several months ago (at that time I agreed with him
to do a
Joey Hess wrote:
Herbert Xu wrote:
Not my fault. I can't even find the word contrib in my debian/ directory.
I'd assume it's a bad override file, then. Talk to Guy.
FWIW, the Packages file and master contains the right info. So I suspect a bad
mirror is to blame here.
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I did get my info from my status file. So this might be local problem.
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Philip == Philip Hands [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Philip Manoj, Was my previous mail really that annoying ? If so, I
Philip apologise profusely (I was fairly tired at the time I wrote
Philip it, so may have started to be rather more argumentative that I
Philip meant to be)
Well, it
blt8.0-unoff is a blt version compatible with tk8.0 based on
blt2.1.
from the blt README:
There's a story behind these unofficial releases of BLT: shortly after
George released BLT 2.1 back in April '96, he disappeared from the scene,
i.e. he didn't show up in comp.lang.tcl anymore, and he also
Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
OK. I give. And, on the principle that if you can't beat 'em, join
'em, I now agree with Jame Troup and Dale Scheetz and formally
declare that Policy does not govern may packages from this point on,
and shall close any policy related Bugs ASAP.
Are
Raul Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
- pam login doesn't use pam. passwd doesn't use pam. telnet doesn't use it.
unless most programs are unseing pam, it's useless.
Oh, foo. Integration of pam was dropped as a release goal of 2.0
because it is quite simply not tenable if you want to
Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Well, it was gfetting frustating, what with being in the middle of
two conversations, one with Dale and James, who are of the opinion
that policy is a guideline, and not a set of rules adopted by the
project
Again, please don't misrepresent my
On Wed, Apr 29, 1998 at 09:22:20PM +0200, Andreas Jellinghaus wrote:
g) cvs is in default ! no ! most people don't use it, and it contains a
server, that has to be configured. this is work, and for people who
don't know cvs its very confuseing.
The casual user has no need
Ean Schuessler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My personal feeling is that every man hour that Debian loses to this
effort is one man hour too many.
Er.. Debian is not that kind of effort.
Personally, I think every hour of flamage we lose will be paid back
in an order of magnitude of better
Jason Gunthorpe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
1 - They don't actually have package dependencies. They have
dependencies on files - big difference.
Perhaps this could be synthesized from a complete list of all
files provided by rpm, and a limited scope which prohibits
presenting competing
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bruce Perens) wrote on 29.04.98 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
1. Focus on the User
I'd like to have developers who program because they like to see
their work in the hands of users, especially _naive_ users.
Well, I must say that while users are nice, naive users ...
I´m did a little research and nobody here at my university I ask (not
too many people, and not represantive, but FWIW) did know this use
of they.
I would really appreciate a list of word explanations, as reading
english legal texts is hard. I´m willing to learn new stuff, but
I hope that Ian can
On Wed, Apr 29, 1998 at 08:05:00PM -0700, Bruce Perens wrote:
5. Open Development.
I am proposing development visible to all, but not a free-for-all.
A core group of limited size to maintain the base system and oversee
the rest probably _is_ necessary. I am not planning to
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wrote:
I´m did a little research and nobody here at my university I ask (not
too many people, and not represantive, but FWIW) did know this use
of they.
I would really appreciate a list of word explanations, as reading
english legal
Bruce, I just read your letter to the debian devel list and your name
sounded familiar. You were mentioned in a Linux Ham-HowTo as starting a
linux
distribution for amateur radio. The mentioned web page however does not
exist (dns entry not found anyway). I assume that your current letter is a
On Thu, Apr 30, 1998 at 08:27:29AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There are several Amateur radio programs currently available for
dos/windows that
*NEED* to be ported to linux. These include contest loggers, satalite
trackers, packet radio, RTTY, and SSTV programs. There is very good SSTV
James Troup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Oh, foo. Integration of pam was dropped as a release goal of 2.0
because it is quite simply not tenable if you want to release hamm
before 1999. You can not simply recompile core applications like
shadow and net{base,std} with pam and hope they work,
Don't forget that there are a lot of firewalls (ANS Interlock in
particular) out there that require logging in first. Passive mode won't
work. That is, you ftp to the firewall, log in, and finally do a
user [EMAIL PROTECTED]
That gives you a connection to the remote site which then
On Thu, 30 Apr 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have installed debian 1.3.1 (several times!) at home and have found
that it is NOT easy to install. Many of the utilities are older than
versions supplied with Slackware or Redhat. Examples: Man uses More
instead of Less as a pager (this
If you have sensitive skin you may wish to push the delete button now
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 30, 1998 8:27 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; debian-devel@lists.debian.org
Subject: New Linux distribution
Bruce, I just
On Thu, Apr 30, 1998 at 02:33:54AM -0500, Ean Schuessler wrote:
[..]
Bruce could have followed the great Freeware tradition of building
concensus by putting togethor a team of Debianites dedicated to
creating a newbie-friendly wrapper for the technically excellent
Debian distribution.
[..]
Jason Gunthorpe [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Wed, 29 Apr 1998, Bruce Perens wrote:
As I see it there are two major problems that preclude using APT with RPM
as it stands,
1 - They don't actually have package dependencies. They have
dependencies on files - big difference.
2 - They
Raul Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Oh, foo. Integration of pam was dropped as a release goal of 2.0
because it is quite simply not tenable if you want to release hamm
before 1999. You can not simply recompile core applications like
shadow and net{base,std} with pam and hope they work,
Raul Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
2 - They seem to lack a well formed index file, I couldn't find any
rpm index on their ftp site.
Presumably, this could also be addressed by work. [Since it's not
specific to the rpm format, but the rpm site.]
There is an index file in the
On Thu, Apr 30, 1998 at 10:06:00AM -0400, Steve Dunham wrote:
It might be smart to fork rpm (call it something else) and re-do the
header fields to be more sensible, then use APT to provide understanding
This would be bad. Especially since RPM is a cross platform standard:
people are
Hi!
What I read from Bruce here recalls a discussion on linux-kernel where
Linus made the following statement:
Ooh, mommy, mommy, what I have now doesn't work in this extremely
unlikely circumstance, so I'll just throw it away and write
something jcompletely new.
-- Linus
Rev. Joseph Carter wrote:
On Thu, Apr 30, 1998 at 02:33:54AM -0500, Ean Schuessler wrote:
[..]
Bruce could have followed the great Freeware tradition of building
concensus by putting togethor a team of Debianites dedicated to
creating a newbie-friendly wrapper for the technically
James Troup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I never said it was unstable and it isn't. But we haven't used it
before and I don't care how stable it is, we should not and will not
start recompiling core applications with a previously unused (*in
Debian*) library, one month into a freeze. The
Michael Meskes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
- all graphic packaages with GIF support
For what it's worth, GIF support is doable with free software, just not
compressed gifs. [gif supports a variety of compression mechanisms,
including none.]
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bruce Perens) writes:
1. Focus on the User
I'd like to have developers who program because they like to see
their work in the hands of users, especially _naive_ users.
You are searching developers who will put significiant time into
making parts of Debian (or
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I have just read Bug #14355, in which Ian Jackson said about qmail-src:
This package has no reason to exist and should be withdrawn. We
distribute source as .dsc/.diff.gz/.orig.tar.gz.
Well, this package exists for two reasons:
1) Because license does
If someone has the desire to install an operating system on a computer
that is created,
supported, and distributed by volunteers they should expect to have to do
some amount of
reading to configure the system to their liking. When someone does the
install and
then proceeds to cry because the
On Thu, Apr 30, 1998 at 06:32:07PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote:
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote:
dpkg -s dosemu says:
Package: dosemu
Status: install ok installed
Priority: extra
Section: contrib
Installed-Size: 1799
Maintainer: Herbert Xu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Version: 0.66.7-10
That might not put it in contrib
isn't there a Free version of DOS that someoen other than Micro$loth made?
i fsomething like that works with DOSemu...
-Steve
David Welton wrote:
On Thu, Apr 30, 1998 at 06:32:07PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote:
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote:
dpkg -s
Here's a random idea...
It seems as if we already have several pretty good distributions that
continue to improve. Maybe it's time to start looking at some of the
next steps in Linux's future, things like Open
Source.. Gnome.. coordination with the business world.
You (Bruce) have already
On Thu, 30 Apr 1998, Stephen Carpenter wrote:
I dunno...I think ee and ae are both pretty damned easy and mindless :)(ae is
sooo mindless I have noticed it is putting CR in my text documents)
As it turns out the DOS CR is coming from slang and is being worked on.
Ae's .rc files are currently
On Thu, Apr 30, 1998 at 01:05:19PM -0400, Stephen Carpenter wrote:
That might not put it in contrib isn't there a Free version
of DOS that someoen other than Micro$loth made? i fsomething like
that works with DOSemu...
Caldera makes one, but it's not Open Source.
Ciao,
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On Thu, Apr 30, 1998 at 10:08:59AM -0700, David Welton wrote:
On Thu, Apr 30, 1998 at 01:05:19PM -0400, Stephen Carpenter wrote:
That might not put it in contrib isn't there a Free version
of DOS that someoen other than Micro$loth made? i fsomething like
that works with DOSemu...
On Thu, 30 Apr 1998, Santiago Vila wrote:
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I have just read Bug #14355, in which Ian Jackson said about qmail-src:
This package has no reason to exist and should be withdrawn. We
distribute source as .dsc/.diff.gz/.orig.tar.gz.
Well, this package
--On Thu, Apr 30, 1998 12:20 pm -0500 Jeff Noxon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
On Thu, Apr 30, 1998 at 10:08:59AM -0700, David Welton wrote:
On Thu, Apr 30, 1998 at 01:05:19PM -0400, Stephen Carpenter wrote:
That might not put it in contrib isn't there a Free version
of DOS that someoen
--On Thu, Apr 30, 1998 1:57 pm -0400 Dale Scheetz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Keep source in Source Format and use the .deb files for what they were
intended, the distribution of binary components.
I have little doubt you're right. I know none of the background.
But... I think it would be nice
hmm would it satisfy things to make a binary dist of the original files and of
the debainized files...and litterally have it unpack the real pine and then
run
patch on it with a diff made agains t the debianized binaries?
(I dunno that patch will do binaries...but you get the idea
anyway...)
yes
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On Thu, 30 Apr 1998, Dale Scheetz wrote:
I agree with Ian. The .deb file format is expressly for the distribution
of configured executables (binaries for short). Using this format for
source distribution is simply asking for trouble.
I don't see any
Dale Scheetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I agree with Ian. The .deb file format is expressly for the distribution
of configured executables (binaries for short). Using this format for
source distribution is simply asking for trouble.
Um... so does this mean we have to retract the kernel-source
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On Thu, 30 Apr 1998, Jules Bean wrote:
[ ... ]
Any thoughts?
Very nice... but *not for hamm*, as I said in my first mail.
I was just talking about *hamm*, the distribution that
will not change anymore once it will be released soon.
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From: Raul Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For what it's worth, GIF support is doable with free software, just not
compressed gifs. [gif supports a variety of compression mechanisms,
including none.]
The patent expires in August.
Bruce
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BTW: What is the current state of Dominik's project (FreeLinux (?)).
No messages regarding its progress or lack thereof for the past year.
Real developers tend to disklike marketing.
Don't tell that to my colleauges at Pixar. Or most other commercial firms.
As far as I can tell they only
On Thu, Apr 30, 1998 at 04:06:44AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
Hi,
Philip == Philip Hands [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I may have over reacted to being the lone voice crying in the
wilderness bit.
I prefer to keep away from such discussions until the air cleaned up a bit,
but for the
I am the E/Imlib/Fnlib maintainer. I would like to help or make
packages for the other architectures that are able to run them. If you
have a machine and can give me access please let me know.
BTW is there a list of machines like this somewhere? Might be nice.
--
Thanks for taking it as intended - and not the flame bait it might
have sounded like. (Rough night last night - but I did put the
delete disclaimer in)
I've been using hamm for some time, and as long as you check to be
sure that application you can't live without exists, it has been
fairly stable
Ean Schuessler wrote:
[..]
Bruce could have followed the great Freeware tradition of building
concensus by putting togethor a team of Debianites dedicated to
creating a newbie-friendly wrapper for the technically excellent
Debian distribution.
[..]
Rev. Joseph Carter wrote:
If there are a
From: Martin Schulze [EMAIL PROTECTED]
What I read from Bruce here recalls a discussion on linux-kernel where
Linus made the following statement:
Ooh, mommy, mommy, what I have now doesn't work in this extremely
unlikely circumstance, so I'll just throw it away and write
something
On Wed, Apr 29, 1998 at 09:03:53PM -0400, Brian White wrote:
This message is to inform everyone that Christian Hudon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
will be taking over the management of the stable Debian release. He will
be responsible for deciding which packages are worthy of stable and when
to make a
Unfoprtunatly I don't have a flame thrower...
I had a can of lysol and a lighter but I ran out of lighter fluid...so I guess
I will just have to reply in a civil manner :)
It was definitly a bit refreshing to read your post...definitly a differnt
Point of View than is usually seen on here.
Even
I'll bite:
From: Ian Keith Setford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 30, 1998 3:09 PM
To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org
Subject: **Ready your Flame-Throwers**
Yo-
I am subscribed to devel although I am not a developer and since everyone
else has had comments on Bruce's
Am I the only one who feels that, to a large extent, ease of use *is* a
technical problem?
This is a somewhat major proposal and would be a big piece of architecture
if implemented. However it's something I've been kicking around in my head
for months and I haven't yet come up with a good
XFree86 3.3.2-4 just got installed into the archive today (I uploaded it
Sunday).
Unless you have bandwidth to spare, please don't download it without
good reason. With impeccable timing, a CERT bulletin warning of
possible security problems with xlib and xterm was released just after
I
Patrick Ouellette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
No doubt every product needs a focus. The rift opened when Bruce
attempted to get the developers to see the value of marketing TO an
audience.
Hmm... the toughest part of a development project is analysis -- figuring
out what needs to be done.
Here is an idea. Why don't we make an installer package for these source-only
packages. It would work the same way as netscape installer, except it would
compile the binary as well as retrieve the source tarball from the net (or
require user to have a tarball). I believe that will remove
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