Re: po-debconf de configure-debian

2003-07-02 Thread Mathieu Roy
Frédéric Bothamy [EMAIL PROTECTED] a tapoté : C'est probablement vrai, mais ce ne devrait normalement pas être le cas selon la section 5.11.5 de la référence du développeur Debian (en anglais). Ce sujet est abordé sur debian-devel, d'ailleurs... Tu veux parler de celui sur

Re: po-debconf de configure-debian

2003-07-02 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Frédéric Bothamy ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): * Christian Perrier [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-06-30 08:39] : [snip] J'ai usé de la méthode habituelle : menace de NMU. Même si le NMU n'est pas en soi une pratique agressive, il est souvent vécu comme tel par les mainteneurs et ça fouette

Bogue lire si vous traduisez ou utilisez des crans debconf

2003-07-02 Thread Christian Perrier
#199278 On rencontre très souvent dans les templates boolean de debconf des constructions du type If you answer YES here Les actuels traducteurs francophones y font la chasse, lors de leur traductions, mais on peut en louper un certain nombre. Cela, à l'instigation de Denis Barbier à

Re: po-debconf de configure-debian

2003-07-02 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Christian Perrier ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Quoting Julien Louis ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): (copie à la liste des DD francophones, tiens) A propos du bogue #193889 : un fichier de traduction de templates debconf français que le mainteneur a appelé pt_FR.po (portugais comme il est parlé en

Re: po-debconf de configure-debian

2003-07-02 Thread Julien BLACHE
Christian Perrier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: C'est une évidence. Mais j'ai bien peur que, quoi qu'on écrive, la réaction du mainteneur à un NMU puisse être courroucée.. :-). Certains mainteneurs du moins. Surtout si c'est pour un truc aussi important que des fichiers mal nommés dans debian/po.

Re: po-debconf de configure-debian

2003-07-02 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Christian Perrier ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): A propos du bogue #193889 : un fichier de traduction de templates debconf français que le mainteneur a appelé pt_FR.po (portugais comme il est parlé en France... :-))) Le mainteneur est OK pour le NMU. NMU envoyé (dans delayed/7-day).

Re: po-debconf de configure-debian

2003-07-02 Thread Denis Barbier
On Wed, Jul 02, 2003 at 04:40:21PM +0200, Julien BLACHE wrote: Christian Perrier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: C'est une évidence. Mais j'ai bien peur que, quoi qu'on écrive, la réaction du mainteneur à un NMU puisse être courroucée.. :-). Certains mainteneurs du moins. Surtout si c'est

Re: po-debconf de configure-debian

2003-07-02 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Julien BLACHE ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Surtout si c'est pour un truc aussi important que des fichiers mal nommés dans debian/po. Là je comprends que le mainteneur puisse avoir une furieuse envie d'étrangler l'auteur du NMU... Et pourquoi donc ? La correction est totalement triviale à

Re: po-debconf de configure-debian

2003-07-02 Thread Mathieu Roy
Julien BLACHE [EMAIL PROTECTED] a tapoté : Surtout si c'est pour un truc aussi important que des fichiers mal nommés dans debian/po. Là je comprends que le mainteneur puisse avoir une furieuse envie d'étrangler l'auteur du NMU... Il ne faut pas commencer à NMUer à tout va, même si cela

Re: debootstrapping and sysvinit

2003-07-02 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Tue, Jul 01, 2003 at 11:03:53PM +, Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote: I had a -5 ready to go at about the same time I saw the NMU. I was so annoyed I decided to let the issue go for a couple of days. Cool down period. If it was ready, why not upload it and be done with it? The NMU was

Bug#199645: ITP: libio-zlib-perl -- IO:: style interface to Compress::Zlib

2003-07-02 Thread Jay Bonci
Package: wnpp Version: unavailable; reported 2003-07-02 Severity: wishlist -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * Package name: libio-zlib-perl Version : 1.01 Upstream Author : Tom Hughes [EMAIL PROTECTED] * URL :

Re: Bug#197886: make still broken after 12 days

2003-07-02 Thread Mathieu Roy
Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] a tapoté : On Mon, 30 Jun 2003 10:07:12 -0500, Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Mon, Jun 30, 2003 at 09:27:20AM -0500, Adam Heath wrote: On Mon, 30 Jun 2003, Samium Gromoff wrote: I`ll proceed in the time order of events: Tue, 17 Jun

Re: Debconf or not debconf

2003-07-02 Thread Mark Brown
On Tue, Jul 01, 2003 at 05:12:22PM +0200, Julien LEMOINE wrote: I received a bug report on stunnel package from an user [1] that complained about the fact that I didn't warning about the new /etc/default/stunnel file introduced in package (thereis a note in README.Debian and in

Re: Bug#199518: ITP: libcommons-lang-java -- Extension of the java.lang package

2003-07-02 Thread Arnaud Vandyck
,Adam Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 1 Jul 2003, Arnaud Vandyck wrote: Description : Extension of the java.lang package And? The Lang Component contains a set of Java classes that provide helper methods for standard Java classes, especially those found in the java.lang

Re: Debian job board?

2003-07-02 Thread Andreas Müller
Am Dienstag, 01.07.03 um 19:28 Uhr schrieb Sven Luther: On Tue, Jul 01, 2003 at 12:28:01PM +0100, Will Newton wrote: Is there any place where someone could advertise jobs that would be suitable for Debian developers? Rapahel Hertzog spoke about something such some time back, when i looked at it

Re: Debconf or not debconf

2003-07-02 Thread Andreas Metzler
Julien LEMOINE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I received a bug report on stunnel package from an user [1] that complained about the fact that I didn't warning about the new /etc/default/stunnel file introduced in package (thereis a note in README.Debian and in changelog). Since debconf is not

Re: Attn: Mass bug filing: libtool requires updating

2003-07-02 Thread Esteban Manchado Velázquez
On Mon, Jun 30, 2003 at 06:02:29PM +0200, Lucio wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi everybody! I am an Italian security admin, and I can progam in c /c++ / java. I like very much debian, so i would like to start helping the project. I would like to partecipate to

Re: Application files in $HOME

2003-07-02 Thread Esteban Manchado Velázquez
On Mon, Jun 30, 2003 at 10:57:40PM +0200, Matthias Urlichs wrote: Hi, Mathieu Roy wrote: Gimp and many others software creates dotfiles. Because from the start you configure it (cache size, temp dir). Why should I want a per-user configuration option for temp file location? For

Re: Debconf or not debconf

2003-07-02 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, Jul 01, 2003 at 09:17:40PM +0200, Artur R. Czechowski wrote: On Tue, Jul 01, 2003 at 05:12:22PM +0200, Julien LEMOINE wrote: Since debconf is not really appreciated for this use, what is the best solution ? Inform users with debconf or give them informations only in changelog

Re: inews path question

2003-07-02 Thread Matthew Garrett
Roger Leigh wrote: If it's not meant to be invoked directly by a user, it should be put in /usr/libexec/news/inews. It's located under /usr/libexec on the BSDs. Hopefully, Debian Policy (and FHS) will allow the use of libexec some day... Christ, no. If it's not meant to be run by any users,

Re: Debconf or not debconf

2003-07-02 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, Jul 01, 2003 at 05:12:22PM +0200, Julien LEMOINE wrote: I received a bug report on stunnel package from an user [1] that complained about the fact that I didn't warning about the new /etc/default/stunnel file introduced in package (thereis a note in README.Debian and in

Debootstrap, Sid, and console-tools-libs

2003-07-02 Thread Matthew P. McGuire
Hello all, Since sid's sysvinit was recently fixed I am able to try another chroot install of sid per the Debain Reference directions. Sadly the following command, debootstrap sid /sid-root http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ Creates the following error, E: Couldn't download

Re: [Stefano =)] Bug#198619: Could not perform configuration on libpam0g

2003-07-02 Thread Sylvain LE GALL
Hello, In fact, i have also this bug. It comes from a circular versionned dependency betwee lipam0g and libpam-modules : libpam0g depend on libpam-modules 0.7.X and libpam-modules depends on libpam0g 0.7.X... So if you try to upgrade from a version below 0.7.X you cannot get it

Bug#199677: ITP: libapache-miniwiki-perl -- Miniature Wiki for Apache

2003-07-02 Thread Matt Hope
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Package name : libapache-miniwiki-perl Version : 0.83 Upstream Authors : Jonas Oberg, Wim Kerkhoff, James Farrell URL : http://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/miniwiki/ :

Re: Debian job board?

2003-07-02 Thread Martin Schulze
Will Newton wrote: Is there any place where someone could advertise jobs that would be suitable for Debian developers? That's what jobs.debian.net was meant for. It doesn't seem to exist anymore, though. Regards, Joey -- Long noun chains don't automatically imply security. --

Bug#199683: ITP: librcs-perl -- Front end to revision control utilities for perl

2003-07-02 Thread Matt Hope
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist * Package name: librcs-perl Version : 1.04-1 Upstream Author : Craig Freter craig at freter.com * URL : http://search.cpan.org/search?query=Rcsmode=module * License : Perl (GPL / Artistic) Description : Front end to

Re: Debconf or not debconf

2003-07-02 Thread Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder
On Tuesday 01 July 2003 17:12, Julien LEMOINE wrote: Hello, I received a bug report on stunnel package from an user [1] that complained about the fact that I didn't warning about the new /etc/default/stunnel file introduced in package (thereis a note in README.Debian and in changelog).

Re: Windows macro virus

2003-07-02 Thread Branden Robinson
On Wed, Jul 02, 2003 at 07:14:10AM +1000, Matthew Palmer wrote: On Tue, 1 Jul 2003, Branden Robinson wrote: You *do* realize that saying virii is a guaranteed method of summoning Thomas Bushnell, right? I'll bear it in mind if I ever need to contact him urgently. Is it his secret call

postrm::downgrade?

2003-07-02 Thread Niall Young
I'm aware you can downgrade packages with `apt-get --force-yes install package=version-revision` but this doesn't seem to apply any postrm processing on the existing version of the package being replaced. How about a postrm::downgrade hook to reverse any changes made in the new version's

Re: but I want the GNU versions of packages

2003-07-02 Thread Emile van Bergen
Hi, On Tue, Jul 01, 2003 at 10:55:44AM +0800, Dan Jacobson wrote: what's the point? Surely you want the best, not necessarily the GNU version (which might be an incredibly bleeding-edge pre-alpha thing, like for example mailutils was not so long ago)? OK, let's just say I like the GNU

Bug#199692: ITP: rfc-tool -- Tool to search in the RFCs and display them

2003-07-02 Thread Martin Quinson
Package: wnpp Version: unavailable; reported 2003-07-02 Severity: wishlist * Package name: rfc-tool Version : 3.2 Upstream Author : Derrick Daugherty [EMAIL PROTECTED] * URL : http://www.dewn.com/rfc/ * License : Unclear, probably free Description : Tool

Bug#199688: ITP: kernel-patch-2.4-supermount-ng -- Automatically mount and unmount removable media

2003-07-02 Thread Mika Fischer
Package: wnpp Version: unavailable; reported 2003-07-02 Severity: wishlist * Package name: kernel-patch-2.4-supermount-ng Version : 1.2.7a Upstream Author : Andrey Borzenkov [EMAIL PROTECTED] Stephen Tweedie ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Alexis

Kernel build dependencies for prepackaged modules

2003-07-02 Thread David Z Maze
My kernel module packages (lm-sensors and i2c) both build-depend on kernel-build-2.4.20-1, which provides enough bits to build packages (as far as I can tell, successfully). Problem is, evidence suggests that kernel-build-2.4.20-1 is i386-only. I'm looking at moving to 2.4.21, but

Re: Bug#199612: ITP: minido -- A simple, generic, multi-user, database free todo list manager / tracking system written in GTK2

2003-07-02 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Tue, 1 Jul 2003, francesco levorato wrote: Package: wnpp Version: unavailable; reported 2003-07-01 Severity: wishlist Package name: minido Version : 0.3-1 Upstream Author : Michael Opdenacker [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL : http://michaelo.free.fr/minido/ License

RE: debootstrapping and sysvinit

2003-07-02 Thread Julian Mehnle
Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote: Tobias Wolter wrote: I still haven't seen any bugfix from you. How about you go stop ranting about being treated unfair and DOING YOUR WORK? And you think an attitude like this is going to make me work harder? For *you* ?? Get real. Regardless of whether it

Re: Debconf or not debconf

2003-07-02 Thread Herbert Xu
Mark Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since debconf is not really appreciated for this use, what is the best solution ? Inform users with debconf or give them informations only in changelog and README.Debian ? What makes you think that a debconf note is inappropriate for this? It

Re: Debian job board?

2003-07-02 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Tue, Jul 01, 2003 at 11:27:21PM +0200, Andreas Müller wrote: http://jobs.debian.net is your friend. Looks like a theres a problem if i change the dns entries. I`ll try it one more time. Still problems: $ host jobs.debian.net Host jobs.debian.net not found: 3(NXDOMAIN) -- Stefano

Re: Application files in $HOME

2003-07-02 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, Jul 01, 2003 at 12:49:10PM +0100, Esteban Manchado Vel?zquez wrote: On Mon, Jun 30, 2003 at 10:57:40PM +0200, Matthias Urlichs wrote: Anyway, there's email readers (my .sylpheed is 73 MBytes), news readers, picture browsers, ... my ~/.sylpheed is bigger than my ~/.kde. 73

What is the default gcc version ?

2003-07-02 Thread Neil Roeth
On Jun 29, Yann Dirson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Despite the build-essential list and gcc-defaults package pointing to gcc 3.3, at least 6 archs still used 3.2 this week (alpha ia64 powerpc m68k mips mipsel) and buildds on s390 and hppa still do not print the toolchain versions, so I

Re: Debconf or not debconf

2003-07-02 Thread Julien LEMOINE
Hello, On Tuesday 01 July 2003 22:51, Andreas Metzler wrote: Julien LEMOINE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I received a bug report on stunnel package from an user [1] that complained about the fact that I didn't warning about the new /etc/default/stunnel file introduced in package (thereis a

Re: Debootstrap, Sid, and console-tools-libs

2003-07-02 Thread Cameron Patrick
On Tue, Jul 01, 2003 at 09:57:43PM -0400, Matthew P. McGuire wrote: | | For the curious, the upgrade route failed as well, but on libpam0g not | console-tools-libs. Any work around would be appreciated. | dpkg -i libpam0g*.deb and its dependencies. I don't know /why/ this works when apt

Re: Debootstrap, Sid, and console-tools-libs

2003-07-02 Thread Rene Engelhard
Hi, [ please wrap your lines after 72 chars ] Matthew P. McGuire wrote: The grumpy user might accuse console-tools-libs of being the problem, but I decided to try another route. Install a chroot woody system, and upgrade that chroot system to sid using apt. During that upgrade apt shows

Re: Debconf or not debconf

2003-07-02 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Tue, Jul 01, 2003 at 08:40:02PM -0500, Steve Langasek wrote: On Tue, Jul 01, 2003 at 05:12:22PM +0200, Julien LEMOINE wrote: I received a bug report on stunnel package from an user [1] that complained about the fact that I didn't warning about the new /etc/default/stunnel file

Re: postrm::downgrade?

2003-07-02 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Niall Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] [030702 16:53]: I'm using a custom package pool for deploying software, but we need to cleanly rollback if an upgrade doesn't go as expected. In easy cases it is possible to first test a package with some testing machine and only put in in the used archive when

Re: Debootstrap, Sid, and console-tools-libs

2003-07-02 Thread Alastair McKinstry
On Wed, 2003-07-02 at 02:57, Matthew P. McGuire wrote: Hello all, Since sid's sysvinit was recently fixed I am able to try another chroot install of sid per the Debain Reference directions. Sadly the following command, debootstrap sid /sid-root http://ftp.debian.org/debian/

Re: Debootstrap, Sid, and console-tools-libs

2003-07-02 Thread Adam Heath
On Wed, 2 Jul 2003, Cameron Patrick wrote: On Tue, Jul 01, 2003 at 09:57:43PM -0400, Matthew P. McGuire wrote: | | For the curious, the upgrade route failed as well, but on libpam0g not | console-tools-libs. Any work around would be appreciated. | dpkg -i libpam0g*.deb and its

Re: Debootstrap, Sid, and console-tools-libs

2003-07-02 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
Matthew P. McGuire [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: E: Couldn't download console-tools-libs You need a newer version of debootstrap; it looks like 0.1.17.29 corrects console-tools-libs to libconsole. -- Aaron M. Ucko, KB1CJC (amu at alum.mit.edu, ucko at debian.org) Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Debconf or not debconf

2003-07-02 Thread Jim Penny
On Tue, 1 Jul 2003 20:40:02 -0500 Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Jul 01, 2003 at 05:12:22PM +0200, Julien LEMOINE wrote: I received a bug report on stunnel package from an user [1] that complained about the fact that I didn't warning about the new

Re: postrm::downgrade?

2003-07-02 Thread Andreas Metzler
On Wed, Jul 02, 2003 at 03:18:36PM +0800, Niall Young wrote: I'm aware you can downgrade packages with `apt-get --force-yes install package=version-revision` but this doesn't seem to apply any postrm processing on the existing version of the package being replaced. How about a

Re: postrm::downgrade?

2003-07-02 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Wed, Jul 02, 2003 at 03:18:36PM +0800, Niall Young wrote: I'm aware you can downgrade packages with `apt-get --force-yes install package=version-revision` but this doesn't seem to apply any postrm processing on the existing version of the package being replaced. How about a

Re: postrm::downgrade?

2003-07-02 Thread Will Newton
On Wednesday 02 July 2003 08:18, Niall Young wrote: How about a postrm::downgrade hook to reverse any changes made in the new version's preinst::upgrade so that when the old version's preinst::upgrade is applied you're not left with a potential mix of configuration? It would be cool if:

Re: Application files in $HOME (reformulated proposal)

2003-07-02 Thread Daniel Ruoso
Em Ter, 2003-07-01 às 08:49, Esteban Manchado Velázquez escreveu: It would be nice, perhaps, having a tool to do it by hand, but I don't think everybody wants it to be done automatically when removing packages. Well, this is the beggining of the proposal, that is: Include into debian

Re: Debian job board?

2003-07-02 Thread Christoph Haas
On Tue, Jul 01, 2003 at 12:28:01PM +0100, Will Newton wrote: Is there any place where someone could advertise jobs that would be suitable for Debian developers? We (the folks at mentors.debian.net) are planning a forum where NMs are seeking sponsors. It would be no additional effort to create

Re: Debconf or not debconf

2003-07-02 Thread Mark Brown
On Tue, Jul 01, 2003 at 08:40:02PM -0500, Steve Langasek wrote: It does not belong in debconf. Put it in the changelog -- users who want to know what's changing on their system should be looking there anyway, and tools such as apt-listchanges make it easier and ever to access changelog

Re: Debconf or not debconf

2003-07-02 Thread Thomas Viehmann
Mark Brown wrote: What makes you think that a debconf note is inappropriate for this? It appears to be quite a common thing to do and seems helpful. Because it's documented and has been discussed to death on devel that debconf neither is a registry nor system for displaying random notes. [0]

Status of Unofficial Sarge Release Issues (Updated for July)

2003-07-02 Thread Drew Scott Daniels
The last time I posted my unofficial release issues status I received several requests to change the formatting, and so I have. I plan to find a site to host this html document (preferably alioth), but I haven't ironed out the details yet. It should also be strongly noted that this is an

Gnome2 in sarge

2003-07-02 Thread Daniel Ruoso
I didn't see any noise in debian-devel about the half upgrade to gnome2 in sarge, was it an accident? and now, will the other packages be upgraded also or I'll still have a half gnome2 desktop in sarge? i.e.: gnomeicu is still in the gnome1 version, but the gnome panel is gnome2, so gnomeicu

Re: Application files in $HOME

2003-07-02 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
On Tuesday, Jul 1, 2003, at 07:49 US/Eastern, Esteban Manchado Velázquez wrote: 73 Mbytes? What does sylpheed save in its directory? Sent mail, perhaps? Not sure about sylpheed, but my evolution directory is even bigger. It's all cached IMAP mail. Hmmm, on this Mac, I've got 600MB of cached

Re: Debconf or not debconf

2003-07-02 Thread John Galt
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 2 Jul 2003, Herbert Xu wrote: I for one am sick and tired of useless Debconf messages popping up during installation or being sent to me via email when I'm upgrading hundreds of machines automatically. Would you prefer the old way of STDOUT

RE: What is the default gcc version ?

2003-07-02 Thread Adam Conrad
Neil Roeth wrote: I'd like to know this, too. I recently fixed some bugs on m68k (a painful experience) and the most recent bug reports are basically the bug you closed is reoccurring. If the compiler I'm using to test my fixes is different than the one used to build the package, that

Re: Debconf or not debconf

2003-07-02 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Jul 02, 2003 at 10:50:29AM -0400, Jim Penny wrote: On Tue, 1 Jul 2003 20:40:02 -0500 Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Jul 01, 2003 at 05:12:22PM +0200, Julien LEMOINE wrote: I received a bug report on stunnel package from an user [1] that complained about

Re: Debconf or not debconf

2003-07-02 Thread Mark Brown
On Wed, Jul 02, 2003 at 07:52:10PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote: Mark Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What makes you think that a debconf note is inappropriate for this? It appears to be quite a common thing to do and seems helpful. Just because lots of people are doing it doesn't mean that

Re: Bug#199642: xpilot: French translation of the debconf templates

2003-07-02 Thread Ben Armstrong
On Wed, Jul 02, 2003 at 08:46:50AM +0200, Michel Grentzinger wrote: Please find the attached fr.po file, which is the french translation of the debconf templates. This file has been reviewed by the contributors of the debian-l10n-french mailing-list. Could you put it to the debian/po

Re: Status of Unofficial Sarge Release Issues (Updated for July)

2003-07-02 Thread Joe Wreschnig
On Wed, 2003-07-02 at 11:20, Drew Scott Daniels wrote: I know text is preferred by many over html, but formatting is easier for me in html than in text. If anyone's interested in a text only version, let me know. $ lynx -dump usri.html usri.txt Attach/use that next time, with a reference to

Re: Debconf or not debconf

2003-07-02 Thread Thomas Viehmann
Julien LEMOINE wrote: Not exactly, there is a variable ENABLED which is set to 0 at installation. So the service will not start while variable is not set to 1. Well the user should notice this then and look in the README.Debian and changelog. If it's the only problem, however, it might be

G++ 3.2 transition: How're we doing?

2003-07-02 Thread Matthew Wilcox
badly. http://people.debian.org/~willy/gcc-transition/ i think technically these are all worthy of an RC bug, but i don't want to file them and you don't want to see them. if your name's on the list: http://people.debian.org/~willy/gcc-transition/maint-packages-2.95 then figure out which of

Re: Gnome2 in sarge

2003-07-02 Thread Zheng XiaoJun
On 2003-07-03 at 00:21, Daniel Ruoso wrote: I didn't see any noise in debian-devel about the half upgrade to gnome2 in sarge, was it an accident? and now, will the other packages be upgraded also or I'll still have a half gnome2 desktop in sarge? i.e.: gnomeicu is still in the gnome1

Re: Status of Unofficial Sarge Release Issues (Updated for July)

2003-07-02 Thread Frank Lichtenheld
On Wed, Jul 02, 2003 at 11:20:52AM -0500, Drew Scott Daniels wrote: I know text is preferred by many over html, but formatting is easier for me in html than in text. If anyone's interested in a text only version, let me know. at least use the correct mime type. This is not

Re: Debian job board?

2003-07-02 Thread Andreas Mueller
On Wed, Jul 02, 2003 at 06:10:49PM +0200, Christoph Haas wrote: On Tue, Jul 01, 2003 at 12:28:01PM +0100, Will Newton wrote: Is there any place where someone could advertise jobs that would be suitable for Debian developers? We (the folks at mentors.debian.net) are planning a forum

Re: Debconf or not debconf

2003-07-02 Thread Jim Penny
On Wed, 2 Jul 2003 15:57:01 -0500 Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jul 02, 2003 at 10:50:29AM -0400, Jim Penny wrote: On Tue, 1 Jul 2003 20:40:02 -0500 Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Jul 01, 2003 at 05:12:22PM +0200, Julien LEMOINE wrote: I

Bug#199748: ITP: parsewiki -- Documentation System Based on ASCII Text

2003-07-02 Thread Sergio Talens-Oliag
Package: wnpp Version: unavailable; reported 2003-07-03 Severity: wishlist * Package name: parsewiki Version : 0.4.3 Upstream Author : Jaime Villate [EMAIL PROTECTED] * URL : http://villate.org/parsewiki/ * License : GPL Description : Documentation System

Re: debootstrapping and sysvinit

2003-07-02 Thread Thomas Viehmann
Julian Mehnle wrote: Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote: Tobias Wolter wrote: I still haven't seen any bugfix from you. How about you go stop ranting about being treated unfair and DOING YOUR WORK? And you think an attitude like this is going to make me work harder? For *you* ?? Get real. Regardless

Re: Gnome2 in sarge

2003-07-02 Thread Mathieu Roy
Zheng XiaoJun [EMAIL PROTECTED] a tapoté : On 2003-07-03 at 00:21, Daniel Ruoso wrote: I didn't see any noise in debian-devel about the half upgrade to gnome2 in sarge, was it an accident? and now, will the other packages be upgraded also or I'll still have a half gnome2 desktop in

Re: Debconf or not debconf

2003-07-02 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Jul 02, 2003 at 06:34:53PM -0400, Jim Penny wrote: It breaks 100% of stunnel installations. The old stunnel was command line oriented, the current one is configuration file oriented. It would be very difficult to write a converter. I am going to disagree with most

Bug#199752: ITP: zebra-pj -- A possible successor to the orphaned Zebra OSPF/RIP/BGP routing suite

2003-07-02 Thread Christian Hammers
Package: wnpp Version: unavailable; reported 2003-07-03 Severity: wishlist * Package name: zebra-pj Version : 0.94+cvs20030701 Upstream Author : Kunihiro Ishiguro [EMAIL PROTECTED] and others * URL : http://zebra.dishone.st/ * License : GPL Description :

Re: Debconf or not debconf

2003-07-02 Thread Sebastian Rittau
On Wed, Jul 02, 2003 at 01:41:13PM +0200, Julien LEMOINE wrote: Not exactly, there is a variable ENABLED which is set to 0 at installation. So the service will not start while variable is not set to 1. So, just set the variable to 1 if upgrading from a version earlier than that in which you

Bug#199757: ITP: jfree-java -- Chart and Report library for java

2003-07-02 Thread Christian Bayle
Package: wnpp Version: unavailable; reported 2003-07-03 Severity: wishlist * Package name: jfree-java Version : 0.8.2 Upstream Author : Name various * URL : http://www.jfree.org/ * License : (LGPL) Description : Chart and Report library for java Source:

Bug#199758: ITP: StatCvs -- CVS Repository statistic analysis tool, written in Java

2003-07-02 Thread Christian Bayle
Package: wnpp Version: unavailable; reported 2003-07-03 Severity: wishlist * Package name: StatCvs Version : 0.1.3 Upstream Author : Name [EMAIL PROTECTED] * URL : http://statcvs.sourceforge.net/ * License : (LGPL) Description : CVS Repository statistic

Re: G++ 3.2 transition: How're we doing?

2003-07-02 Thread Cardenas
Maybe I'm misunderstanding something, but... Can you explain a bit more about your process for generating this list? Why are the packages in the exceptions file in there? It seems that you're not including the c102 packages. Attached is a list of the c102 packages, and its longer than 1. On

Re: debootstrapping and sysvinit

2003-07-02 Thread Miquel van Smoorenburg
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Julian Mehnle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote: Tobias Wolter wrote: I still haven't seen any bugfix from you. How about you go stop ranting about being treated unfair and DOING YOUR WORK? And you think an attitude like this is going to

Re: Gnome2 in sarge

2003-07-02 Thread Joe Drew
On Wed, 2003-07-02 at 19:05, Mathieu Roy wrote: Will GNOME2 be soon completely available in Sarge? Yes. Is it a work in progress? Yes. Or is it an accident which no one cares about? No.

Re: G++ 3.2 transition: How're we doing?

2003-07-02 Thread Cardenas
Sorry, I forgot the attachment, but you can all just apt-cache search c102. On Wed, Jul 02, 2003 at 04:52:32PM -0700, Cardenas wrote: It seems that you're not including the c102 packages. Attached is a list of the c102 packages, and its longer than 1. On Wed, Jul 02, 2003 at 07:24:39PM

Re: What is the default gcc version ?

2003-07-02 Thread Bill Allombert
On Jun 29, Yann Dirson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Despite the build-essential list and gcc-defaults package pointing to gcc 3.3, at least 6 archs still used 3.2 this week (alpha ia64 powerpc m68k mips mipsel) and buildds on s390 and hppa still do not print the toolchain versions,

Re: Debconf or not debconf

2003-07-02 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Wed, Jul 02, 2003 at 06:25:15PM +0100, Mark Brown wrote: Equally well, it's really nasty to break the user system and not warn them about it and there aren't many options for warning people. One of the things that Debian has been impressively good at is providing smooth upgrades that don't

Re: Debconf or not debconf

2003-07-02 Thread Thomas Viehmann
Jim Penny wrote: Now, this breakage happens to be somewhat benign, in that without configuration, it does not function at all. But it is also somewhat difficult to test for many uses. Further, when the unconfigured system fails to start, the failure is completely silent. This adds to the

Re: postrm::downgrade?

2003-07-02 Thread Thomas Viehmann
Andreas Metzler wrote: possible anyway, new packages, might use new file-formats which can be converted from the old-version but not back again. Strictly speaking, any automatic conversion done during upgrades needs to be injective and thus (theoretically) reversible for being correct. Of

Re: Application files in $HOME

2003-07-02 Thread Adam Borowski
On Wed, 2 Jul 2003, Colin Watson wrote: On Tue, Jul 01, 2003 at 12:49:10PM +0100, Esteban Manchado Vel?zquez wrote: On Mon, Jun 30, 2003 at 10:57:40PM +0200, Matthias Urlichs wrote: Now, if one removes or purges, say, KDE to install an unofficial version... would (s)he loose all his

Re: Re: Gnome2 in sarge

2003-07-02 Thread Zheng XiaoJun
ON 2003-07-03 at 07:05, Mathieu Roy wrote: Zheng XiaoJun [EMAIL PROTECTED] a tapoté : On 2003-07-03 at 00:21ï¼ Daniel Ruoso wrote: I didn't see any noise in debian-devel about the half upgrade to gnome2 in sarge, was it an accident? and now, will the other packages be upgraded also

Re: Debconf or not debconf

2003-07-02 Thread Herbert Xu
On Wed, Jul 02, 2003 at 02:34:50PM -0600, John Galt wrote: On Wed, 2 Jul 2003, Herbert Xu wrote: I for one am sick and tired of useless Debconf messages popping up during installation or being sent to me via email when I'm upgrading hundreds of machines automatically. Would you prefer

Re: Debconf or not debconf

2003-07-02 Thread Joe Drew
On Wed, 2003-07-02 at 14:00, Matt Zimmerman wrote: It does not belong in debconf. Put it in the changelog -- users who want to know what's changing on their system should be looking there anyway, and tools such as apt-listchanges make it easier and ever to access changelog information.

Re: Re: Gnome2 in sarge

2003-07-02 Thread Daniel Ruoso
Em Qua, 2003-07-02 às 21:36, Zheng XiaoJun escreveu: I desire a completed gnome2 in sarge as well. But I don't think it's an accident -- just my own opinion: I've searched some packages in http://packages.debian.org/ , and found that many packages involved still have too many bugs unfixed in

Re: Debconf or not debconf

2003-07-02 Thread Joe Drew
On Wed, 2003-07-02 at 17:23, Herbert Xu wrote: I'd prefer no interaction at all during installation. I'm perfectly able to read documenation thank you very much. Happily, the noninteractive debconf frontend exists.

Re: Debconf or not debconf

2003-07-02 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Wed, Jul 02, 2003 at 08:53:57PM -0400, Joe Drew wrote: On Wed, 2003-07-02 at 14:00, Matt Zimmerman wrote: This kind of thing would go in the hypothetical NEWS.Debian, but unfortunately I haven't gotten around to implementing support for it in apt-listchanges yet. Having just

Re: Debconf or not debconf

2003-07-02 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Wed, Jul 02, 2003 at 06:34:53PM -0400, Jim Penny wrote: Because of security considerations. The configuration file is read on startup, and then stunnel chroots away, so that it is no longer visible. The command line interface leaked information, internal IP structure, internal ports, etc.

Re: G++ 3.2 transition: How're we doing?

2003-07-02 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Wed, Jul 02, 2003 at 04:52:32PM -0700, Cardenas wrote: Maybe I'm misunderstanding something, but... Can you explain a bit more about your process for generating this list? Why are the packages in the exceptions file in there? There seem to be two types of things in the exceptions list:

Accepted adzapper 0.20030611-1 (all source)

2003-07-02 Thread Ludovic Drolez
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 22:47:33 +0200 Source: adzapper Binary: adzapper Architecture: source all Version: 0.20030611-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Ludovic Drolez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Ludovic Drolez [EMAIL

Accepted roundup 0.5.8-3 (all source)

2003-07-02 Thread Bastian Kleineidam
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 20:15:54 +0200 Source: roundup Binary: roundup Architecture: source all Version: 0.5.8-3 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Bastian Kleineidam [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Bastian Kleineidam [EMAIL

Accepted zope 2.6.1-10 (i386 source)

2003-07-02 Thread Luca - De Whiskey's - De Vitis
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2003 20:01:02 +0200 Source: zope Binary: zope Architecture: source i386 Version: 2.6.1-10 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Luca - De Whiskey's - De Vitis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Luca - De Whiskey's -

Accepted wmgtemp 0.6-1.2 (i386 source)

2003-07-02 Thread Josip Rodin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 19:00:47 +0200 Source: wmgtemp Binary: wmgtemp Architecture: source i386 Version: 0.6-1.2 Distribution: unstable Urgency: high Maintainer: Lenart Janos [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Josip Rodin [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Accepted samba 3.0.0beta1-2 (i386 source all)

2003-07-02 Thread Steve Langasek
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 15:02:00 -0500 Source: samba Binary: samba-doc libsmbclient libpam-smbpass swat python2.2-samba winbind smbclient samba libsmbclient-dev samba-common smbfs Architecture: source i386 all Version: 3.0.0beta1-2

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