On Mon, Oct 06, 2003 at 08:49:25PM -0400, Joe Drew wrote:
On Mon, 2003-10-06 at 18:06, Richard Braakman wrote:
It's::not::like::this::sort::of::jargon::is::difficult::to::understand,::or
::that::writing::package::descriptions::which::rely::entirely::on::one's
::understanding
On Mon, 2003-10-06 at 21:19, martin f krafft wrote:
I'd appreciate if you kept your opinions to yourself,
Can you do the same?
Scott
(Unsigned as I've already packed my keyring for Linux Expo today)
--
Have you ever, ever felt like this?
Had strange things happen? Are you going round the
Does anyone happen to know why .la files hardcode the paths to .la files
that they depend on?
For example:
dependency_libs=' -lm -L/usr/lib /usr/lib/libogg.la'
This is about to bite Debian hard with some of the XFree86 libraries
moving to /usr/lib.
Chris Cheney
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# libvorbis.la - a libtool
On Mon, Oct 06, 2003 at 08:26:44PM -0400, Marco Paganini wrote:
I'm packaging a Python program called ask for distribution.
Currently, the main executable is called ask.py.
a. Whack upstream with a cluebat.
b. Repeat a.
c. What happens when the program gets reimplemented in another
On Tue, Oct 07, 2003 at 01:33:01AM -0500, Chris Cheney wrote:
Does anyone happen to know why .la files hardcode the paths to .la
files that they depend on?
Anal-retentiveness wrt using the exact same library originaly used.
This is about to bite Debian hard with some of the XFree86
also sprach Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003.10.07.0104 +0200]:
As stated above, this is not a reasonable restriction. An
arbitrary kernel patch package might conflict with *any* changes
made to the kernel-source package, including simple security
fixes.
A simple fix is easier to work
Bao C. Ha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If I want both the freeswan module capability and IPVS, how should
I proceed.
If all you need is to run freeswan, then you can unapply the IPSEC patch,
and simply use KLIPS.
If you need the new stack, then you will need to fix the conflicts.
It shouldn't
On Tue, 2003-10-07 at 07:33, Chris Cheney wrote:
Does anyone happen to know why .la files hardcode the paths to .la files
that they depend on?
To guarantee that you don't end up linking with something totally
different if the app being compiled happens to have a different search
path.
What's
On Tue, Oct 07, 2003 at 10:26:45AM +0200, Marcelo E. Magallon wrote:
On Tue, Oct 07, 2003 at 01:33:01AM -0500, Chris Cheney wrote:
Does anyone happen to know why .la files hardcode the paths to .la
files that they depend on?
Anal-retentiveness wrt using the exact same library
What's more of a problem here is that libtool actually links
dependency libraries of dependencies ... it's something I've been
working on for a while.
That's a bug, not a feature. From libtool's perspective at least.
You have to keep in mind that libtool is designed to work around
On Tue, Oct 07, 2003 at 09:30:56AM +0100, Scott James Remnant wrote:
On Tue, 2003-10-07 at 07:33, Chris Cheney wrote:
Does anyone happen to know why .la files hardcode the paths to .la files
that they depend on?
To guarantee that you don't end up linking with something totally
On Mon, Oct 06, 2003 at 07:50:07PM -0500, John Hasler wrote:
Besides, if dumb names were a problem we'd do something about
openoffice.org.
$ ls /usr/bin/*openoffice*
/usr/bin/openoffice
What is dumb about that? The thread is about naming of files within
/usr/bin.
Chris
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I'm packaging a Python program called ask for distribution.
Currently, the main executable is called ask.py.
a. Whack upstream with a cluebat.
Euh, I think you messed up. Marco *is* upstream.
On the other hand, Marco being upstream defeats John's argument:
Leave it. The program will
On Tue, Oct 07, 2003 at 01:24:37PM +, Robert Millan wrote:
I'm packaging a Python program called ask for distribution.
Currently, the main executable is called ask.py.
a. Whack upstream with a cluebat.
Euh, I think you messed up. Marco *is* upstream.
So perhaps the
Chris writes:
$ ls /usr/bin/*openoffice*
/usr/bin/openoffice
What is dumb about that? The thread is about naming of files within
/usr/bin.
Since the package is named openoffice.org supposedly for trademark reasons
I assumed that the binary was as well.
--
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Mon, 2003-10-06 at 15:39, martin f krafft wrote:
also sprach Eduard Bloch [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003.09.22.1207 +0200]:
Let's create a package called linux-2.4.22 or
linux-2.4.22-pure-vanilla-source-for-you-to-patch with a script which
does exactly this.
I oppose. Let's get rid of
On Sat, Oct 04, 2003 at 01:46:08AM +0200, Nicolas Boullis wrote:
Moreover, that does not answer to my real question: is there a good
reason not to implement such an extended syntax for versionned
relationships.
Probably not; but there needs to be a good reason to do it. It has to
be
On Tue, Oct 07, 2003 at 11:11:35AM +0200, Marcelo E. Magallon wrote:
What's more of a problem here is that libtool actually links
dependency libraries of dependencies ... it's something I've been
working on for a while.
That's a bug, not a feature. From libtool's perspective at least.
On Tue, Oct 07, 2003 at 09:48:32AM -0400, Greg Folkert wrote:
But, this would alleviate SOME of the problems. This would be NO DOUBT
very helpful. The Binary Kernel (as in the archives could have any an
all patches you see fit Herbert)
Would it NO doubt make entirely MUCH more sense, to only
a. Whack upstream with a cluebat.
Euh, I think you messed up. Marco *is* upstream.
That doesn't preclude whackig upstream with a cluebat :-) Here, he can
use mine.
--
Marcelo
The comments about debsums are useful and contribute
to the whole issue butthey still miss one of my
key points/queries.
There is no way to verify/correct the MODE, USER, GROUP, TYPE
of any files installed in a pkg.
If I am wrong please point out where, with an installed pkg
(and preferably
On Tue, Oct 07, 2003 at 09:30:56AM +0100, Scott James Remnant wrote:
On Tue, 2003-10-07 at 07:33, Chris Cheney wrote:
Does anyone happen to know why .la files hardcode the paths to .la files
that they depend on?
To guarantee that you don't end up linking with something totally
On Wed, Oct 08, 2003 at 12:24:37AM +1000, Kim Lester wrote:
There is no way to verify/correct the MODE, USER, GROUP, TYPE
of any files installed in a pkg.
That appears to be the case, partly because permissions may be changed
from those files which are contained withing the .deb file via
On Mon, Oct 06, 2003 at 08:26:44PM -0400, Marco Paganini [EMAIL PROTECTED]
was heard to say:
I'm packaging a Python program called ask for distribution. Currently,
the main executable is called ask.py. It seems unusual (and why not say,
*ugly*) to have the language extension added to the
Steve Langasek wrote:
Hypothetical example:
29 packages wait on (151 packages are stalled by) libxml2. This package
is too young, and should be a valid candidate in 8 days.
Suppose that the libxml2 source package provided not only the
libxml2-python2.3 binary package, but also a
Package: wnpp
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Severity: wishlist
* Package name: r-cran-qtl
Version : 0.9.7-21
Upstream Author : Karl W. Broman [EMAIL PROTECTED], Hao Wu [EMAIL
PROTECTED]
* URL : http://www.biostat.jhsph.edu/~kbroman/qtl/index.html
*
Marco Paganini wrote:
I'm packaging a Python program called ask for distribution. Currently,
the main executable is called ask.py. It seems unusual (and why not say,
*ugly*) to have the language extension added to the program, but in this
case, it was a deliberate decision to avoid clash
On Tue, Oct 07, 2003 at 05:23:32PM +0200, Björn Stenberg wrote:
Steve Langasek wrote:
Hypothetical example:
29 packages wait on (151 packages are stalled by) libxml2. This package
is too young, and should be a valid candidate in 8 days.
Suppose that the libxml2 source package
I think there used to be a packaged called gnucash-sql which allowed
gnucash to save data to a postgres database. That package doesn't seem
to exist any longer. Has the functionality of gnucash-sql been merged
into gnucash proper?
--
.''`. Carl B. Constantine
: :' : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Monday, Oct 6, 2003, at 16:20 US/Eastern, martin f krafft wrote:
It has existed in the freeswan patch for a while!
Let's be serious, FreeS/WAN has serious issues! Being at war with the
kernel routing machinery, for example.
Björn Stenberg writes:
2) How is meta package versioning handled? The gcc-defaults package, version
1.9, is the only package providing the gcc binary (without -version suffix) of
which many packages require version = 2.95.
gcc-defaults implements it's own version handling. see the source.
On Monday, Oct 6, 2003, at 18:58 US/Eastern, Adam McKenna wrote:
I don't see how the package being in unstable affects any part of this
argument. Will the feature backport be less desirable when the
kernel-source package is released in a stable revision of Debian?
The whole point of not doing
On Tue, 2003-10-07 at 09:51, Colin Watson wrote:
On Tue, Oct 07, 2003 at 09:48:32AM -0400, Greg Folkert wrote:
Would it NO doubt make entirely MUCH more sense, to only have to D/L the
Source Code once.
Would it be POSSIBLE to LOSE the Zippy-style CAPITALIZATION, please?
Would it be
also sprach Anthony DeRobertis [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003.10.07.1935 +0200]:
It has existed in the freeswan patch for a while!
Let's be serious, FreeS/WAN has serious issues! Being at war with the
kernel routing machinery, for example.
Alright, I give you that. But it works.
--
Please do
On Tue, Oct 07, 2003 at 03:40:18AM -0500, Chris Cheney wrote:
On Tue, Oct 07, 2003 at 10:26:45AM +0200, Marcelo E. Magallon wrote:
On Tue, Oct 07, 2003 at 01:33:01AM -0500, Chris Cheney wrote:
Does anyone happen to know why .la files hardcode the paths to .la
files that they depend
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Jan,
If I understand correctly, your keyboard doesn't work right, but the rest of
the system is OK.
Are there other keys with AltGr that work? For example, can you type a curly
brace '{' (AltGr-9)?
If you try to upgrade your system (with apt-get) it doesnt't
On Tue, Oct 07, 2003 at 10:35:40AM -0700, Carl B. Constantine wrote:
I think there used to be a packaged called gnucash-sql which allowed
gnucash to save data to a postgres database. That package doesn't seem
to exist any longer. Has the functionality of gnucash-sql been merged
into gnucash
On Tue, Oct 07, 2003 at 02:58:25PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
I think the problem with .la files may be solvable by updating
Build-Depends and -dev packages' dependencies to refer to libxrender-dev
(= 0.8.3-1), and/or libraries that are rebuilt against that version of
libxrender-dev. I'm
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* Package name: ps2eps
Version : 1.47
Upstream Author : Roland Bless [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* URL :
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Hi Marcello,
Euh, I think you messed up. Marco *is* upstream.
That doesn't preclude whackig upstream with a cluebat :-) Here, he can
use mine.
I tried whacking myself repeatedly with the cluebat. Unfortunately, it was
not as effective as whacking someone else. But I think I got the
Hi Daniel,
I think it's worth pointing out that if a file called ask.py is in
/usr/bin, the statement:
import ask
from a Python program in /usr/bin which hasn't modified its sys.path
will, unless I am terribly confused, pick up ask.py instead of whatever
module it was looking for.
On Tue, Oct 07, 2003 at 05:57:42PM -0400, Daniel Burrows wrote:
That would not be a problem, as no other program imports ask.py...
Are you confident that no other program will ever want to import ask?
Yes. ask.py is just the main executable. It imports all the other modules
(which have
On Tue, Oct 07, 2003 at 05:48:17PM -0400, Marco Paganini [EMAIL PROTECTED]
was heard to say:
Hi Daniel,
I think it's worth pointing out that if a file called ask.py is in
/usr/bin, the statement:
import ask
from a Python program in /usr/bin which hasn't modified its sys.path
Hi,
Yes. ask.py is just the main executable. It imports all the other modules
(which have the .py extension and should be in /usr/lib/ask or something).
That'd be /usr/share (lib is for arch-dependant data, see FHS)
Oops, sorry! Slippery fingers. I meant /usr/share...
Regards,
Paga
Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Mon, Sep 15, 2003 at 01:24:11PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 10:37:48 -0500, Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
There is a distinct difference between recognizing what is missing
from a description, and being able to
On Tue, Oct 07, 2003 at 06:07:58PM -0400, Marco Paganini [EMAIL PROTECTED]
was heard to say:
On Tue, Oct 07, 2003 at 05:57:42PM -0400, Daniel Burrows wrote:
That would not be a problem, as no other program imports ask.py...
Are you confident that no other program will ever want to
On Wed, Oct 08, 2003 at 12:24:37AM +1000, Kim Lester wrote:
There is no way to verify/correct the MODE, USER, GROUP, TYPE
of any files installed in a pkg.
If I am wrong please point out where, with an installed pkg
(and preferably without having a copy of the .dpkg around)
once can tell if a
Gunnar Wolf wrote:
Maybe we should ask the user at first boot if he wishes to use tasksel,
dselect, aptitude or none-of-the-above, instead of going just tasksel
and dselect...
Maybe we should look at a current install of debian before posting to
-devel.
--
see shy jo
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