Hi Nathanael!
You wrote:
284914 -- trivial bug in klogd.
I still say we switch to another syslogd implementation and remove
sysklogd entirely. It's got 4 RC bugs and 99 bugs total, including 34
patches. Effectively, it's unmaintained, but Joey hasn't orphaned it.
It's a sloppy,
Hello,
Apologies in advance if debian-devel is the wrong list. I think this is
a bug but I don't know against which virtual package so I am posting it
here in the hope that someone will see it.
The slirp source package in testing has been taken-over by the Debian
JED Group---but what they are
On Thu, Jan 05, 2006 at 03:53:01PM +0530, Kapil Hari Paranjape wrote:
Hello,
Apologies in advance if debian-devel is the wrong list. I think this is
a bug but I don't know against which virtual package so I am posting it
here in the hope that someone will see it.
The slirp source package
On Wed, 04 Jan 2006, Steve Langasek wrote:
On Wed, Jan 04, 2006 at 10:43:57PM -0200, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
initscripts co-maintainer hat on
Do it. We are *heavly* considering support for ephemeral /var/run (which is
orthogonal to /run or anything else in that topic), so you
On Wed, 04 Jan 2006 14:25:17 +0100, Josselin Mouette [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Unstable means dependencies can be broken, not that packages themselves
can always broken. Each and every single package uploaded to unstable
should be of release quality. Otherwise, it should go to experimental.
* Marc Haber [Thu, 05 Jan 2006 14:40:45 +0100]:
Experience with adduser shows that no-one besides the maintainers
themselves and their closest environment uses experimental packages.
More evidence:
http://www.perrier.eu.org/weblog/2005/09/30#experimental-useless
--
Adeodato Simó
On Thu, Jan 05, 2006 at 02:44:38PM +0100, Adeodato Simó wrote:
* Marc Haber [Thu, 05 Jan 2006 14:40:45 +0100]:
Experience with adduser shows that no-one besides the maintainers
themselves and their closest environment uses experimental packages.
More evidence:
I'd love for Debian users to test some more cutting edge versions of
packages (partly so upstream gets more testers, partly so I can see the
bits I hate about the new versions and try to get them fixed) but I
don't want them in testing now until they are properly released as a
stable series. In
Bas Zoetekouw wrote:
Hi Nathanael!
You wrote:
284914 -- trivial bug in klogd.
I still say we switch to another syslogd implementation and remove
sysklogd entirely. It's got 4 RC bugs and 99 bugs total, including 34
patches. Effectively, it's unmaintained, but Joey hasn't orphaned
On Thu, Jan 05, 2006 at 02:40:45PM +0100, Marc Haber wrote:
On Wed, 04 Jan 2006 14:25:17 +0100, Josselin Mouette [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Unstable means dependencies can be broken, not that packages themselves
can always broken. Each and every single package uploaded to unstable
should be of
Hi DDs,
[[ Marc Haber ]]
Experience with adduser shows that no-one besides the maintainers
themselves and their closest environment uses experimental packages.
[[ Simon Huggins ]]
See this worries me a bit.
I'd love for Debian users to test some more cutting edge versions of
packages
On Thu, Jan 05, 2006 at 02:03:37PM +, Simon Huggins wrote:
On Thu, Jan 05, 2006 at 02:44:38PM +0100, Adeodato Simó wrote:
* Marc Haber [Thu, 05 Jan 2006 14:40:45 +0100]:
Experience with adduser shows that no-one besides the maintainers
themselves and their closest environment uses
On 1/5/06, Nicolas François [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
How Debian users can know there is a new version in experimental?
There are some messages in debian-devel, or blogs on planet, but not all
users or developers are reading them.
Is there a command that can display the list of packages I'm
* Olaf van der Spek [Thu, 05 Jan 2006 18:10:36 +0100]:
I'd be nice if it's possible to easily install a package from
experimental or unstable (in testing or unstable) once or to track
that section for that package.
I once heard that pinning experimental to 101 achieves that. I since
then
Nicolas François wrote:
On Thu, Jan 05, 2006 at 02:03:37PM +, Simon Huggins wrote:
On Thu, Jan 05, 2006 at 02:44:38PM +0100, Adeodato Simó wrote:
* Marc Haber [Thu, 05 Jan 2006 14:40:45 +0100]:
Experience with adduser shows that no-one besides the maintainers
themselves and their closest
On Thu, Jan 05, 2006 at 05:38:31PM +0100, Jan C. Nordholz wrote:
[[ Marc Haber ]]
Experience with adduser shows that no-one besides the maintainers
themselves and their closest environment uses experimental packages.
I wouldn't say that package maintainers are the only ones who use
Simon Huggins dijo [Thu, Jan 05, 2006 at 02:03:37PM +]:
http://www.perrier.eu.org/weblog/2005/09/30#experimental-useless
See this worries me a bit.
I'd love for Debian users to test some more cutting edge versions of
packages (partly so upstream gets more testers, partly so I can
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Lior Kaplan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* Package name: paps
Version : 0.6.3
Upstream Author : Dov Grobgeld [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* URL : http://paps.sourceforge.net/
* License : GPL
Description : UTF-8 to PostScript converter
On Thu, Jan 05, 2006 at 01:13:05PM -0500, Travis Crump wrote:
Is there a command that can display the list of packages I'm using with a
version on experimental higher than the current version on unstable?
`aptitude -t experimental`
That's neat!
I love aptitude :)
I love it even more
On Wednesday 04 January 2006 00.43, Brian Nelson wrote:
Why don't we use RHEL's kernel, or collaborate with them to maintain a
stable kernel tree, or something?
The real nice thing would be a central mailing list where all kernel
development were coordinated. Perhaps some sort of
On Wednesday 04 January 2006 09.53, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
Better to use a tested and stable kernel in stable whenever it is
released rather than trying to synch to current kernels sometime too
close to release time just for the sake of releasing a semi-current
kernel.
Well
sarge's
On Tuesday 03 January 2006 22.59, Andi Drebes wrote:
Hi there!
[...] As I'm using debian and like it
pretty much, I'd like to add it to the list of packages that debian
oficially provides. The first problem is, that I don't know how to create
debian-packages.
Start here:
On Thursday 05 January 2006 00.29, campanoni simone wrote:
~ - i'd like to try to mantain the wss packet (to learn to mantein
a debian packet)
Start here: http://www.debian.org/devel/
Especially at http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/
Then, for all the details, there is
Daniel Leidert wrote:
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=345823
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=345891
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=345956
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=346002
These are all notable in
a) being RC
b) not
On Wed, Jan 04, 2006 at 07:29:10AM -0600, Steve Greenland wrote:
On 04-Jan-06, 05:08 (CST), paddy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Time to add a policy-alternatives hook to update-alternatives ??
Huh? If the admin manually sets an alternative with with
update-alternatives, it won't be overridden
x-post to deity list
Am Donnerstag, den 05.01.2006, 15:02 -0500 schrieb Joey Hess:
Daniel Leidert wrote:
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=345823
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=345891
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=345956
On Thu, Jan 05, 2006 at 03:02:05PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote:
Daniel Leidert wrote:
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=345823
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=345891
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=345956
[Michael Vogt]
Sorry for the delay. I'm preparing a new upload that adds the 2006
archive key to the default keyring.
Sounds good. Will this automatically take care of the key update and
make sure no manual intervention is needed to get packages upgraded?
Isn't Ubuntu using the signed apt
On Thu, Jan 05, 2006 at 11:13:06PM +0100, Michael Vogt wrote:
These are all notable in
a) being RC
b) not having any response from an apt maintainer
Sorry for the delay. I'm preparing a new upload that adds the 2006
archive key to the default keyring.
Does it mean we need new
On Fri, Jan 06, 2006 at 01:22:50AM +0100, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
[Michael Vogt]
Sorry for the delay. I'm preparing a new upload that adds the 2006
archive key to the default keyring.
Sounds good. Will this automatically take care of the key update and
make sure no manual
Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
AIUI, Ubuntu isn't rotating their archive keys -- something else that their
centralized model more readily affords them.
I'm a little confused about why we do rotate the keys. I'm not
experienced in thinking through the subtle issues concerned, so I'm
On Thu, Jan 05, 2006 at 02:03:37PM +, Simon Huggins wrote:
Is there any better way I can get snapshots/betas tested by the majority
of users? Do people think that this is the sort of thing that should
just be uploaded to unstable and allowed to flow into testing?
Provided you're
Please remove me from Call
Wave. I now have a cable connection and no longer require the
service.
Thank you.
Mary H. Allen
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
8341 Pine Cone Drive
Gautier, Ms.
39553
228/497-2010
I just dialed the telephone number I
was given to use to discontinue this service and I held on
On Fri, Jan 06, 2006 at 01:22:50AM +0100, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
[Michael Vogt]
Sorry for the delay. I'm preparing a new upload that adds the 2006
archive key to the default keyring.
Sounds good. Will this automatically take care of the key update and
make sure no manual
On Fri, Jan 06, 2006 at 01:26:41AM +0100, Bartosz Fenski aka fEnIo wrote:
On Thu, Jan 05, 2006 at 11:13:06PM +0100, Michael Vogt wrote:
These are all notable in
a) being RC
b) not having any response from an apt maintainer
Sorry for the delay. I'm preparing a new upload that
On Fri, Jan 06, 2006 at 01:22:50AM +0100, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
[Michael Vogt]
Sorry for the delay. I'm preparing a new upload that adds the 2006
archive key to the default keyring.
Sounds good. Will this automatically take care of the key update and
make sure no manual
On Thu, Jan 05, 2006 at 04:43:13PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
If the key is compromised, which is the only way the non-expiring key
method can be broken, then the expiring key doesn't seem to be
offering all that much additional security.
If the 2006 key takes (say) 15 months to
On Thu, Jan 05, 2006 at 04:43:13PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
AIUI, Ubuntu isn't rotating their archive keys -- something else that their
centralized model more readily affords them.
I'm a little confused about why we do rotate the keys. I'm
Michael Vogt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, Jan 06, 2006 at 01:22:50AM +0100, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
[Michael Vogt]
Sorry for the delay. I'm preparing a new upload that adds the 2006
archive key to the default keyring.
Sounds good. Will this
Nick Phillips [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If the 2006 key takes (say) 15 months to compromise, then it is fine
to use it to sign and verify the new key on 1/1/2007, so long as you
perform that verification before March...
Or be able to proof the date of signing.
IOW using the old key to sign
Hi all,
I realize that this is a technical forum, and I have something
technically useful to contribute (in the sense of offering motivation to
keep going full steam): my heartfelt thanks for all the efforts given by
Debian Developers.
I've carefully written a technically detailed Thank You
On Thu, Jan 05, 2006 at 09:07:58AM -0200, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
On Wed, 04 Jan 2006, Steve Langasek wrote:
On Wed, Jan 04, 2006 at 10:43:57PM -0200, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
initscripts co-maintainer hat on
Do it. We are *heavly* considering support for ephemeral
On Fri, Jan 06, 2006 at 05:22:44AM +0100, Bernd Eckenfels wrote:
Nick Phillips [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If the 2006 key takes (say) 15 months to compromise, then it is fine
to use it to sign and verify the new key on 1/1/2007, so long as you
perform that verification before March...
Or be
Nick Phillips [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Thu, Jan 05, 2006 at 04:43:13PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
If the key is compromised, which is the only way the non-expiring key
method can be broken, then the expiring key doesn't seem to be
offering all that much additional security.
If
Anthony Towns aj@azure.humbug.org.au writes:
How so? In the long term you end up with aj signed 2005, aj and 2005
signed 2006, 2005 is expired; I don't think there's anything broken in
that situation.
So I do trust aj's keys, and the keys he signs. Unfortunately, I
don't have any way to
Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
For a user with a compromised local network, the only safe solution is to
validate the new key via some web of trust. This is the feature that's
missing today, to give Joe User some reasonable method of checking keys
against the web of trust before
On Thu, Jan 05, 2006 at 11:04:32PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
It seems to me that this kind of computation depends intrinsically on
how long it takes to compromise. If it takes eleven months, then
we're currently screwed. It seems unlikely to me that this kind of
analysis has taken
On Thu, Jan 05, 2006 at 07:38:37PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote:
In the third case, again the compromise is either detected, or it isn't. If
it's detected, we're revoking the key again; if it's *not* detected (and it
seems to me that anyone able to compromise the pgp key without also having
to
The following is a listing of packages for which help has been requested
through the WNPP (Work-Needing and Prospective Packages) system in the
last week.
Total number of orphaned packages: 166 (new: 0)
Total number of packages offered up for adoption: 94 (new: 0)
Total number of packages
Thomas Bushnell BSG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It seems to me that this kind of computation depends intrinsically on
how long it takes to compromise. If it takes eleven months, then
we're currently screwed. It seems unlikely to me that this kind of
analysis has taken place, which makes it
On Thu, Jan 05, 2006 at 11:15:08PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
But that means that AJ should rotate his key too.
Yes. In theory I'd do that once every five years or so; in practice
longer. :-/
Another way to put the same point, inverted if you will, is to ask why
it's ok to trust AJs
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