Annonce d'un nouveau paquet guppy5.deb Ubuntu - Debian

2014-11-11 Thread Jean Millet
Bonjour à tous, Nouveau sur cette liste et également dans le développement de paquet .deb, c'est en effet le premier que je tente de développer. Le paquet en question concerne le CMS GuppY en version 5.0.xx. A ce jour 5.0.08. Mon gros problème est que je ne maîtrise pas l'anglais et je

Re: Let's abandon debian-devel.

2014-11-11 Thread Gergely Nagy
David == David L Craig dlc@gmail.com writes: David On 14Nov10:2154+0100, Gergely Nagy wrote: You do realize topic lists are public too, right? David Yes, but most Debian users don't even know about David them nor do they need to since the traditional David lists have

Re: Let's abandon debian-devel.

2014-11-11 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 08:50:52AM +0100, Matthias Urlichs wrote: I'd be in favor of a different approach: moderate debian-devel. Not the content, but the list of people allowed to post. Pre-seed it with the email adresses in our keyring and auto-add anybody who signs their email with a key in

release browser-related packages to stable?

2014-11-11 Thread Daniel Pocock
Since 2013, Debian has allowed new browser versions to enter stable[1] even though most other package versions are frozen The security team announcement mentions that some Xul extensions currently packaged in the Debian archive are not compatible and that a solution to that is still being worked

Aw: Let's abandon debian-devel.

2014-11-11 Thread Steffen Möller
Hi Charles, after unsubscribing from debian-vote, I had a bit of a thought about debian-devel, which is hard to follow now, and suddenly I saw something very clear. This year's freeze seems of an excellent quality and promises to be brief. Is that thanks to debian-devel ? Not much.

Re: Removing duplication: Word lists of common words in languages

2014-11-11 Thread Simon McVittie
On 10/11/14 23:16, Ben Finney wrote: To avoid duplicating these “the N most common words, ranked by frequency, for language FOO” For a password generator you ideally want the word-list to be sorted alphabetically, so that it's trivial to verify by eye that there are no duplicates. Duplicate

Blends in D-I tasksel selection? (Was: Filed Bug#758096: tasksel: Allow to select specific packages during installation - just DE, Web server, Mail server is NOT enough)

2014-11-11 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, I guess the sad news that Joey Hess leaves Debian has spread also to Debian Blends list. The direct consequence for Blends is that Joey will not work on this bug (#758096) and will also most probably not rise any opinion on it any more but we somehow need to move on. I realised that the

Re: free choice in installer?

2014-11-11 Thread Andreas Tille
On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 11:15:12AM +0100, Michael Ole Olsen wrote: If there was a choice in the installer for Init system and boot loader there would be nobody complaining. People only complain when there isn't a choice and they are forced to use something new. From what research are you

Re: Let's abandon debian-devel.

2014-11-11 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, Andrey Rahmatullin: On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 08:50:52AM +0100, Matthias Urlichs wrote: I'd be in favor of a different approach: moderate debian-devel. Not the content, but the list of people allowed to post. Pre-seed it with the email adresses in our keyring and auto-add anybody who

Re: Let's abandon debian-devel.

2014-11-11 Thread Ben Finney
Andrey Rahmatullin w...@debian.org writes: On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 08:50:52AM +0100, Matthias Urlichs wrote: I'd be in favor of a different approach: moderate debian-devel. Not the content, but the list of people allowed to post. Pre-seed it with the email adresses in our keyring and

Re: Let's abandon debian-devel.

2014-11-11 Thread Martin Bagge / brother
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 2014-11-11 12:25, Ben Finney wrote: But all Debian Contributors have their OpenPGP key in the project's keyring. No? Most certainly not. Parts where many people who is not DD nor DM takes part include docs, web, translations and graphics. -

Re: Removing duplication: Word lists of common words in languages

2014-11-11 Thread Ben Finney
Simon McVittie s...@debian.org writes: On 10/11/14 23:16, Ben Finney wrote: To avoid duplicating these “the N most common words, ranked by frequency, for language FOO” For a password generator you ideally want the word-list to be sorted alphabetically, so that it's trivial to verify by

Re: free choice in installer?

2014-11-11 Thread Stephan Seitz
On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 12:19:06PM +0100, Andreas Tille wrote: From what research are you taking this generalisation? All non-IT experts I know (proof by counter-example) would be really happy to have no choice but rather one single option which works. You might also like Of course, but the

Re: Let's abandon debian-devel.

2014-11-11 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 10:25:05PM +1100, Ben Finney wrote: I'd be in favor of a different approach: moderate debian-devel. Not the content, but the list of people allowed to post. Pre-seed it with the email adresses in our keyring and auto-add anybody who signs their email with a key

Re: Let's abandon debian-devel.

2014-11-11 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 12:22:53PM +0100, Matthias Urlichs wrote: I'd be in favor of a different approach: moderate debian-devel. Not the content, but the list of people allowed to post. Pre-seed it with the email adresses in our keyring and auto-add anybody who signs their email with

Re: Let's abandon debian-devel.

2014-11-11 Thread Brett Parker
On 11 Nov 22:25, Ben Finney wrote: Andrey Rahmatullin w...@debian.org writes: On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 08:50:52AM +0100, Matthias Urlichs wrote: I'd be in favor of a different approach: moderate debian-devel. Not the content, but the list of people allowed to post. Pre-seed it with

Re: Let's abandon debian-devel.

2014-11-11 Thread Wookey
+++ Charles Plessy [2014-11-10 23:25 +0900]: Hi all, From now on I will try to see if I can give to Debian the same quality of contribution without being subscribed to debian-devel. And I invite you to think about it and *not* to discuss it on this list. Just a data-point: I joined

Re: Let's abandon debian-devel.

2014-11-11 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, Andrey Rahmatullin: I know. So? If the first email of a non-DD gets delayed for a few hours, that's an acceptable price to pay IMHO. Nothing about delays wasn't mentioned in your previous email Moderating (some) emails to d-d implies delaying those emails until a human moderator looks

Re: Let's abandon debian-devel.

2014-11-11 Thread Neil McGovern
On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 01:30:58PM +0100, Matthias Urlichs wrote: Andrey Rahmatullin: I know. So? If the first email of a non-DD gets delayed for a few hours, that's an acceptable price to pay IMHO. Nothing about delays wasn't mentioned in your previous email Moderating (some) emails

Re: Let's abandon debian-devel.

2014-11-11 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 12:42:38PM +0100, Martin Bagge / brother wrote: But all Debian Contributors have their OpenPGP key in the project's keyring. No? Most certainly not. Parts where many people who is not DD nor DM takes part include docs, web, translations and graphics. I think there

Re: Let's abandon debian-devel.

2014-11-11 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 01:30:58PM +0100, Matthias Urlichs wrote: I know. So? If the first email of a non-DD gets delayed for a few hours, that's an acceptable price to pay IMHO. Nothing about delays wasn't mentioned in your previous email Moderating (some) emails to d-d implies delaying

Re: Let's abandon debian-devel.

2014-11-11 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Tuesday, November 11, 2014 12:41:12 PM Neil McGovern wrote: On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 01:30:58PM +0100, Matthias Urlichs wrote: Andrey Rahmatullin: I know. So? If the first email of a non-DD gets delayed for a few hours, that's an acceptable price to pay IMHO. Nothing about

Re: Let's abandon debian-devel.

2014-11-11 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, Scott Kitterman: On Tuesday, November 11, 2014 12:41:12 PM Neil McGovern wrote: On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 01:30:58PM +0100, Matthias Urlichs wrote: Andrey Rahmatullin: I know. So? If the first email of a non-DD gets delayed for a few hours, that's an acceptable price to pay

Re: What is the policy on audio group? and, proposal of a new group for the jack audio server

2014-11-11 Thread Felipe Sateler
On Mon, 10 Nov 2014 11:08:38 +, Simon McVittie wrote: On 10/11/14 02:59, Christian Hofstaedtler wrote: I vaguely remember PolicyKit being involved in the daemon situation, when mpd tries to talk to a pulseaudio server which magically gets spawned PolicyKit is typically (only?) used

Re: REISSUED CfV: General Resolution: Init system coupling

2014-11-11 Thread Ian Jackson
Santiago Vila writes (Re: REISSUED CfV: General Resolution: Init system coupling): On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 06:12:46PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: I have a half-written series to make it cope with lettered, rather than numbered, options. Would it be worth my while finishing that off (in my

Re: Let's abandon debian-devel.

2014-11-11 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Dienstag, 11. November 2014, Matthias Urlichs wrote: I'd be willing to help out. So would I. me too, should this road be chosen. cheers, Holger signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: Removing duplication: Word lists of common words in languages

2014-11-11 Thread Ian Jackson
Ben Finney writes (Re: Removing duplication: Word lists of common words in languages): Where is a good authoritative source of such words, by frequency, for various natural languages, suitable for inclusion in Debian as a data package? I had roughly this question in 2013, and found the

Should fast-evolving packages be backports-only?

2014-11-11 Thread Rebecca N. Palmer
It has been recently stated [0-1] that backports is enabled by default in Jessie. 1. Does that mean that if pkgX is in jessie-backports but not jessie, apt-get install pkgX will install it from -backports? 2. If so, when (if ever) is it appropriate to deliberately invoke that behaviour by

Re: Let's abandon debian-devel.

2014-11-11 Thread Neil McGovern
On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 02:13:20PM +0100, Holger Levsen wrote: On Dienstag, 11. November 2014, Matthias Urlichs wrote: I'd be willing to help out. So would I. me too, should this road be chosen. Excellent. In that case, my position is now meh :) Neil -- signature.asc Description:

Re: REISSUED CfV: General Resolution: Init system coupling

2014-11-11 Thread Ansgar Burchardt
On 11/11/2014 02:10 PM, Ian Jackson wrote: Santiago Vila writes (Re: REISSUED CfV: General Resolution: Init system coupling): The voting process is already complex enough. If it is going to be like this: GR Proposal: Option A. Amendment A: Option B. Amendment B: Option C. we might better

Re: Should fast-evolving packages be backports-only?

2014-11-11 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 11/11/14 14:30, Rebecca N. Palmer wrote: It has been recently stated [0-1] that backports is enabled by default in Jessie. 1. Does that mean that if pkgX is in jessie-backports but not jessie, apt-get install pkgX will install it from -backports? 2. If so, when (if ever) is it

Re: What is the policy on audio group? and, proposal of a new group for the jack audio server

2014-11-11 Thread Simon McVittie
On 11/11/14 13:04, Felipe Sateler wrote: I'm not sure if it is PolicyKit or a related service (old documentation suggests it was ConsoleKit, nowadays it should be logind?), but /dev/snd/ * get ACLs added for the currently logged in users Yes, that's exactly what I said a couple of mails ago

Re: Should fast-evolving packages be backports-only?

2014-11-11 Thread Scott Howard
On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 9:20 AM, Daniel Pocock dan...@pocock.pro wrote: On 11/11/14 14:30, Rebecca N. Palmer wrote: It has been recently stated [0-1] that backports is enabled by default in Jessie. 1. Does that mean that if pkgX is in jessie-backports but not jessie, apt-get install pkgX

Re: What is the policy on audio group? and, proposal of a new group for the jack audio server

2014-11-11 Thread Felipe Sateler
On Tue, 11 Nov 2014 14:41:01 +, Simon McVittie wrote: On 11/11/14 13:04, Felipe Sateler wrote: I'm not sure if it is PolicyKit or a related service (old documentation suggests it was ConsoleKit, nowadays it should be logind?), but /dev/snd/ * get ACLs added for the currently logged in

r-base-core upload to unstable does not respect freeze policy

2014-11-11 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, Freeze policy[1] says: Uploads to unstable === Since many updates (hopefully, the vast majority) will be via unstable, changes there can be disruptive if they would be unsuitable for Jessie. Please be mindful of this, particularly if you maintain a library or

Re: r-base-core upload to unstable does not respect freeze policy

2014-11-11 Thread Ian Jackson
Andreas Tille writes (r-base-core upload to unstable does not respect freeze policy): [stuff] I don't want to take away from what you've said, but: So I used a testing chroot perhaps we should in general make more use of testing chroots for RC bugfixes to testing during the freeze. This is

Re: r-base-core upload to unstable does not respect freeze policy

2014-11-11 Thread Andreas Tille
On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 03:55:23PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: So I used a testing chroot perhaps we should in general make more use of testing chroots for RC bugfixes to testing during the freeze. This is particularly relevant if one is NMUing, and therefore might have less knowledge of the

Re: r-base-core upload to unstable does not respect freeze policy

2014-11-11 Thread Luca Falavigna
Hi Andreas, 2014-11-11 16:33 GMT+01:00 Andreas Tille andr...@an3as.eu: I was close to trap into the pitfall to uploaded an RC bug fix built in an unstable chroot which would not be able to migrate to testing since the R cdbs helper injects a Depends: r-base-core (= version_in_your_chroot)

Re: r-base-core upload to unstable does not respect freeze policy

2014-11-11 Thread Simon McVittie
On 11/11/14 15:55, Ian Jackson wrote: perhaps we should in general make more use of testing chroots for RC bugfixes to testing during the freeze. For build-time dependencies, I'm not sure that actually helps very much: the buildds for unstable take build-dependencies from unstable. If you

Re: r-base-core upload to unstable does not respect freeze policy

2014-11-11 Thread Dirk Eddelbuettel
On 11 November 2014 at 10:02, Dirk Eddelbuettel wrote: | | There was a bug report requesting builds against tcl/tk 8.5 instead of 8.6. Bah. Obviously wrong order: 8.6 instead of 8.5. D. | No more, no less -- and I complied. | | This nothing to do with wheezy transition issue. I would have

Re: r-base-core upload to unstable does not respect freeze policy

2014-11-11 Thread Dirk Eddelbuettel
There was a bug report requesting builds against tcl/tk 8.5 instead of 8.6. No more, no less -- and I complied. This nothing to do with wheezy transition issue. I would have thought you knew better. Dirk -- http://dirk.eddelbuettel.com | @eddelbuettel | e...@debian.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE,

Re: r-base-core upload to unstable does not respect freeze policy

2014-11-11 Thread Ian Jackson
Simon McVittie writes (Re: r-base-core upload to unstable does not respect freeze policy): On 11/11/14 15:55, Ian Jackson wrote: perhaps we should in general make more use of testing chroots for RC bugfixes to testing during the freeze. For build-time dependencies, I'm not sure that

Re: r-base-core upload to unstable does not respect freeze policy

2014-11-11 Thread Ian Jackson
Dirk Eddelbuettel writes (Re: r-base-core upload to unstable does not respect freeze policy): There was a bug report requesting builds against tcl/tk 8.5 instead of 8.6. No more, no less -- and I complied. This nothing to do with wheezy transition issue. I would have thought you knew

Re: r-base-core upload to unstable does not respect freeze policy

2014-11-11 Thread Adam D. Barratt
On 2014-11-11 16:02, Dirk Eddelbuettel wrote: There was a bug report requesting builds against tcl/tk 8.5 instead of 8.6. No more, no less -- and I complied. This nothing to do with wheezy transition issue. I would have thought you knew better. It's *everything* to do with transitions to

Re: r-base-core upload to unstable does not respect freeze policy

2014-11-11 Thread Adam D. Barratt
On 2014-11-11 16:24, Adam D. Barratt wrote: On 2014-11-11 16:02, Dirk Eddelbuettel wrote: There was a bug report requesting builds against tcl/tk 8.5 instead of 8.6. No more, no less -- and I complied. This nothing to do with wheezy transition issue. I would have thought you knew better.

Re: r-base-core upload to unstable does not respect freeze policy

2014-11-11 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Ian Jackson (2014-11-11 17:19:36) Dirk Eddelbuettel writes (Re: r-base-core upload to unstable does not respect freeze policy): There was a bug report requesting builds against tcl/tk 8.5 instead of 8.6. No more, no less -- and I complied. This nothing to do with wheezy

Re: Should fast-evolving packages be backports-only?

2014-11-11 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Rebecca N. Palmer rebecca_pal...@zoho.com (2014-11-11): It has been recently stated [0-1] that backports is enabled by default in Jessie. Yes, and that's a bug. See #764982. 1. Does that mean that if pkgX is in jessie-backports but not jessie, apt-get install pkgX will install it from

Re: r-base-core upload to unstable does not respect freeze policy

2014-11-11 Thread James McCoy
On Nov 11, 2014 10:34 AM, Andreas Tille andr...@an3as.eu wrote: I was close to trap into the pitfall to uploaded an RC bug fix built in an unstable chroot which would not be able to migrate to testing since the R cdbs helper injects a Depends: r-base-core (= version_in_your_chroot) This

Re: Should fast-evolving packages be backports-only?

2014-11-11 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Tue, 11 Nov 2014, Rebecca N. Palmer wrote: Possible candidates: a. Packages that work closely with hardware, where old versions don't work with new hardware (example: beignet) b. Packages that implement fast-evolving file formats or network protocols, where you need the same version as the

Re: r-base-core upload to unstable does not respect freeze policy

2014-11-11 Thread Andreas Tille
On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 04:28:25PM +, Adam D. Barratt wrote: It's *everything* to do with transitions to testing. r-base 3.1.2-2 does not meet the requirements for a freeze exception and as such will not be in jessie. Due to the way your automatic depenency generation works, any package

Re: Should fast-evolving packages be backports-only?

2014-11-11 Thread Scott Kitterman
On November 11, 2014 12:22:57 PM EST, Cyril Brulebois k...@debian.org wrote: Rebecca N. Palmer rebecca_pal...@zoho.com (2014-11-11): It has been recently stated [0-1] that backports is enabled by default in Jessie. Yes, and that's a bug. See #764982. 1. Does that mean that if pkgX is in

Re: r-base-core upload to unstable does not respect freeze policy

2014-11-11 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Jonas, On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 06:11:42PM +0100, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: Quoting Ian Jackson (2014-11-11 17:19:36) Did you see Andreas's comment about cdbs-generated dependencies ? Is that just a bug in cdbs ? A bug in some CDBS-compatible snippet, I suspect - not CDBS itself. ACK.

Re: release browser-related packages to stable?

2014-11-11 Thread Rebecca N. Palmer
Has there already been any further discussion about the solution for Xul extensions packaged in Debian? I haven't looked for the official discussion, but extensions have been updated in stable (to a new upstream version if necessary) when a browser update would otherwise break them: see e.g.

Re: r-base-core upload to unstable does not respect freeze policy

2014-11-11 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Tue, 11 Nov 2014, Ian Jackson wrote: Simon McVittie writes (Re: r-base-core upload to unstable does not respect freeze policy): On 11/11/14 15:55, Ian Jackson wrote: perhaps we should in general make more use of testing chroots for RC bugfixes to testing during the freeze. For

Re: Should fast-evolving packages be backports-only?

2014-11-11 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Scott Kitterman deb...@kitterman.com (2014-11-11): As long as apt prefers a version from stable over a version from backports when both are available (unless instructed to install from backports) why is this a problem? It seems more user friendly to me for a package that's been

Re: Should fast-evolving packages be backports-only?

2014-11-11 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 11/11/14 18:30, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: On Tue, 11 Nov 2014, Rebecca N. Palmer wrote: Possible candidates: a. Packages that work closely with hardware, where old versions don't work with new hardware (example: beignet) b. Packages that implement fast-evolving file formats or

Re: r-base-core upload to unstable does not respect freeze policy

2014-11-11 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Luca, On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 05:04:55PM +0100, Luca Falavigna wrote: Hi Andreas, 2014-11-11 16:33 GMT+01:00 Andreas Tille andr...@an3as.eu: I was close to trap into the pitfall to uploaded an RC bug fix built in an unstable chroot which would not be able to migrate to testing since

Re: Should fast-evolving packages be backports-only?

2014-11-11 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Tue, 11 Nov 2014, Daniel Pocock wrote: On 11/11/14 18:30, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: On Tue, 11 Nov 2014, Rebecca N. Palmer wrote: Possible candidates: a. Packages that work closely with hardware, where old versions don't work with new hardware (example: beignet) b. Packages

Re: Should fast-evolving packages be backports-only?

2014-11-11 Thread Vincent Bernat
❦ 11 novembre 2014 12:29 -0500, Scott Kitterman deb...@kitterman.com : As long as apt prefers a version from stable over a version from backports when both are available (unless instructed to install from backports) why is this a problem? The user may expect the same characteristics than for

Re: Re: Let's abandon debian-devel.

2014-11-11 Thread Joe Neal
On 2014-11-11 12:25, Ben Finney wrote: But all Debian Contributors have their OpenPGP key in the project's keyring. No? Most certainly not. Parts where many people who is not DD nor DM takes part include docs, web, translations and graphics. FWIW, when I first started running sid

Re: r-base-core upload to unstable does not respect freeze policy

2014-11-11 Thread Luca Falavigna
Hi Andreas, 2014-11-11 19:12 GMT+01:00 Andreas Tille andr...@an3as.eu: Depends: libc6 (= 2.4), r-base-core (= 3.1.2-2) Hmmm, this is what I missed. :-( I guess the only chance is to upload to t-p-u, right? That could be an option. You have to coordinate with Release Team, though, as I

Re: Removing duplication: Word lists of common words in languages

2014-11-11 Thread Ben Finney
Ian Jackson ijack...@chiark.greenend.org.uk writes: I had roughly this question in 2013, and found the answer. Here is probably the best starting point: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/ucgi/~ijackson/git?p=evade-mail-usrlocal.git;a=blob;f=lemma.al-permission.mbox Great! That asks for

Bug#769159: ITP: citeproc-py -- Python implementation of a CSL (Citation Style Language) citation processor

2014-11-11 Thread Daniel Stender
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Daniel Stender deb...@danielstender.com * Package name: citeproc-py Version : 0.3.0 Upstream Author : Brecht Machiels bre...@mos6581.org * URL : https://github.com/brechtm/citeproc-py * License : BSD-2-Clause

Bug#769162: ITP: aegean -- integrated genome analysis toolkit

2014-11-11 Thread Sascha Steinbiss
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Sascha Steinbiss sa...@tetrinetsucht.de * Package name: aegean Version : 0.10.2 Upstream Author : Daniel Standage daniel.stand...@gmail.com * URL : http://standage.github.io/AEGeAn/ * License : ISC Programming Lang: C

Re: r-base-core upload to unstable does not respect freeze policy

2014-11-11 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Tue, 11 Nov 2014, Luca Falavigna wrote: 2014-11-11 19:12 GMT+01:00 Andreas Tille andr...@an3as.eu: Depends: libc6 (= 2.4), r-base-core (= 3.1.2-2) Hmmm, this is what I missed. :-( I guess the only chance is to upload to t-p-u, right? That could be an option. You have to coordinate

RFC: DEP-14: Recommended layout for Git packaging repositories

2014-11-11 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Hello, following the initial discussion we had in August (https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2014/08/thrd2.html#00499), I have written a first draft of the Debian Enhancement Proposal that I suggested. It's now online at http://dep.debian.net/deps/dep14 and also attached below so that you can

Bug#769173: RFA: libmusicbrainz5 -- Library to access the MusicBrainz.org database

2014-11-11 Thread Daniel Pocock
Package: wnpp X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, pkg-multimedia-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org, a...@gently.org.uk, tjaal...@ubuntu.com https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/libmusicbrainz5 libmusicbrainz5 is pulled into many GNOME desktops as a dependency, hence the high popcon stats:

Re: r-base-core upload to unstable does not respect freeze policy

2014-11-11 Thread Santiago Vila
On Tue, 11 Nov 2014, Andreas Tille wrote: All R packages are building with include /usr/share/R/debian/r-cran.mk which contains: rversion:= $(shell dpkg-query -W -f='$${Version}' r-base-dev) ... ## support ${R:Depends} via debian/${package}.substvars

Re: RFC: DEP-14: Recommended layout for Git packaging repositories

2014-11-11 Thread Iustin Pop
On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 10:26:24PM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: Hello, following the initial discussion we had in August (https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2014/08/thrd2.html#00499), I have written a first draft of the Debian Enhancement Proposal that I suggested. It's now online at

Re: RFC: DEP-14: Recommended layout for Git packaging repositories

2014-11-11 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Tue, 11 Nov 2014, Raphael Hertzog wrote: following the initial discussion we had in August (https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2014/08/thrd2.html#00499), I have written a first draft of the Debian Enhancement Proposal that I suggested. It's now online at http://dep.debian.net/deps/dep14

Re: RFC: DEP-14: Recommended layout for Git packaging repositories

2014-11-11 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Tue, 11 Nov 2014, Iustin Pop wrote: QUESTION: some people have argued to use debian/master as the latest packaging targets sometimes sid and sometimes experimental. Should we standardize on this? Or should we explicitly allow this as an alternative? Interesting. Assuming a normal

Re: RFC: DEP-14: Recommended layout for Git packaging repositories

2014-11-11 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Nov 11, 2014, at 10:26 PM, Raphael Hertzog wrote: Here's the draft: Thanks for getting this started. I think it will help considerably to get some standardization here. I would think that as more teams adopt git, they will eventually just refer to DEP 14, perhaps with some additional

Re: RFC: DEP-14: Recommended layout for Git packaging repositories

2014-11-11 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, Raphael Hertzog: Title: Recommended layout for Git packaging repositories DEP: 14 Thank you! QUESTION: some people have argued to use debian/master as the latest packaging targets sometimes sid and sometimes experimental. Should we standardize on this? Or should we

Re: RFC: DEP-14: Recommended layout for Git packaging repositories

2014-11-11 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Tuesday, November 11, 2014 22:26:24 Raphael Hertzog wrote: Hello, following the initial discussion we had in August (https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2014/08/thrd2.html#00499), I have written a first draft of the Debian Enhancement Proposal that I suggested. It's now online at

Re: RFC: DEP-14: Recommended layout for Git packaging repositories

2014-11-11 Thread Russ Allbery
Matthias Urlichs matth...@urlichs.de writes: Raphael Hertzog: About pristine-tar -- If the package maintainers use the pristine-tar tool to efficiently store a byte-for-byte copy of the upstream tarballs, this should be done in the `pristine-tar` branch. Please discourage

Bug#769187: general: Entries in system log for failed services refer to FreeDesktop.ORG for support

2014-11-11 Thread Tomas Fasth
Package: general Severity: normal I use Virtualbox to run test environments for the packages I maintain (just a few really). I install virtualbox-guest-utils in my guest installations to adjust system clock after hibernation. In Jessie, there seem to be a problem with the virtualbox guest

Re: RFC: DEP-14: Recommended layout for Git packaging repositories

2014-11-11 Thread Norbert Preining
On Tue, 11 Nov 2014, Russ Allbery wrote: Please discourage the use of pristine-tar. The format is fragile and can suffer from bit rot. I strongly disagree with this advice. pristine-tar is hugely helpful, and is something we should continue to support, advocate, maintain, and use.

Re: A concerned user -- debian Guidelines

2014-11-11 Thread Noel Torres
On Monday, 10 de November de 2014 08:57:50 Nathael Pajani escribió: [...] You certainly heard about debianfork (http://debianfork.org/) and from a user point of view this is a tragedy. A derivative and a fork are different things. A Derivative happens when a different project is started using

Processed: Re: Bug#769187: general: Entries in system log for failed services refer to FreeDesktop.ORG for support

2014-11-11 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing control commands: reassign -1 src:systemd Bug #769187 [general] general: Entries in system log for failed services refer to FreeDesktop.ORG for support Bug reassigned from package 'general' to 'src:systemd'. Ignoring request to alter found versions of bug #769187 to the same values

Bug#769187: general: Entries in system log for failed services refer to FreeDesktop.ORG for support

2014-11-11 Thread Ben Hutchings
Control: reassign -1 src:systemd On Mon, 2014-11-10 at 02:13 +0100, Tomas Fasth wrote: Package: general Severity: normal I use Virtualbox to run test environments for the packages I maintain (just a few really). I install virtualbox-guest-utils in my guest installations to adjust system

Beersigning in Zürich/SH/Winti? Meeting other local Debianistas? Bugfixing?

2014-11-11 Thread Tomas Pospisek
Hello all, since 1. I need signatures on my all new fresh key 0x29774B39 and 2. I would love to meet all the local Debianistas would any of you come and sign my key when in Zürich/SH/Winti? Anybody interested in going out for a beer? We could also have a bugfixing evening. Wink, *t -- To

Re: Should fast-evolving packages be backports-only?

2014-11-11 Thread Rogério Brito
On 2014-11-11 15:30, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: However, candidate packages due to reason (c) above really are a problem, IMHO they shouldn't be in stable in the first place. Does this mean that I should ask for the removal of youtube-dl from testing? It will certainly bitrot in a

Re: RFC: DEP-14: Recommended layout for Git packaging repositories

2014-11-11 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Nov 11, Raphael Hertzog hert...@debian.org wrote: QUESTION: some people have argued to use debian/master as the latest packaging targets sometimes sid and sometimes experimental. Should we standardize on this? Or should we explicitly allow this as an alternative? Whatever the decision

Re: RFC: DEP-14: Recommended layout for Git packaging repositories

2014-11-11 Thread Mathieu Parent
2014-11-11 22:26 GMT+01:00 Raphael Hertzog hert...@debian.org: Hello, Hello Raphael, following the initial discussion we had in August (https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2014/08/thrd2.html#00499), I have written a first draft of the Debian Enhancement Proposal that I suggested. It's now

Re: Beersigning in Zürich/SH/Winti? Meeting other local Debianistas? Bugfixing?

2014-11-11 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 10:16 AM, Tomas Pospisek wrote: would any of you come and sign my key when in Zürich/SH/Winti? In case folks from these places aren't reading this list, some possibilities: https://db.debian.org/search.cgi?country=chdosearch=Search

Re: r-base-core upload to unstable does not respect freeze policy

2014-11-11 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Santiago, On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 10:24:11PM +0100, Santiago Vila wrote: include /usr/share/R/debian/r-cran.mk which contains: rversion:= $(shell dpkg-query -W -f='$${Version}' r-base-dev) ... ## support ${R:Depends} via debian/${package}.substvars

Re: Beersigning in Zürich/SH/Winti? Meeting other local Debianistas? Bugfixing?

2014-11-11 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 12/11/14 06:59, Paul Wise wrote: On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 10:16 AM, Tomas Pospisek wrote: would any of you come and sign my key when in Zürich/SH/Winti? In case folks from these places aren't reading this list, some possibilities:

Re: RFC: DEP-14: Recommended layout for Git packaging repositories

2014-11-11 Thread Gergely Nagy
Raphael == Raphael Hertzog hert...@debian.org writes: Raphael Packaging branches and tags Raphael === [...] Raphael The Git repository listed in debian/control's `Vcs-Git` field should Raphael usually have its HEAD point to the branch corresponding to

Re: RFC: DEP-14: Recommended layout for Git packaging repositories

2014-11-11 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 3:34 PM, Gergely Nagy wrote: I'd like to note that there are very good reasons for a debian-only, overlay-style packaging repository too. This section should, in my opinion, at least acknowledge that, and briefly mention it as an option. I find it a bit sad that it was

Re: RFC: DEP-14: Recommended layout for Git packaging repositories

2014-11-11 Thread Vincent Cheng
On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 11:38 PM, Paul Wise p...@debian.org wrote: On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 3:34 PM, Gergely Nagy wrote: I'd like to note that there are very good reasons for a debian-only, overlay-style packaging repository too. This section should, in my opinion, at least acknowledge that,

Accepted guake 0.5.0-2 (source amd64) into unstable

2014-11-11 Thread Daniel Echeverry
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Format: 1.8 Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 16:52:50 -0500 Source: guake Binary: guake Architecture: source amd64 Version: 0.5.0-2 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Sylvestre Ledru sylves...@debian.org Changed-By: Daniel Echeverry

Accepted freeipa 4.0.5-1 (source amd64) into unstable

2014-11-11 Thread Timo Aaltonen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 10:38:52 +0200 Source: freeipa Binary: freeipa-server freeipa-server-trust-ad freeipa-client freeipa-admintools freeipa-tests python-freeipa Architecture: source amd64 Version: 4.0.5-1 Distribution: unstable

Accepted libreoffice 1:4.3.3-1 (all source) into unstable

2014-11-11 Thread Rene Engelhard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Format: 1.8 Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2014 21:17:06 +0100 Source: libreoffice Binary: libreoffice libreoffice-l10n-za libreoffice-l10n-in libreoffice-core libreoffice-common libreoffice-java-common libreoffice-writer libreoffice-calc libreoffice-impress

Accepted binutils 2.24.90.20141111-1 (source all amd64) into unstable

2014-11-11 Thread Matthias Klose
- GNU assembler, linker and binary utilities (source) Changes: binutils (2.24.90.2014-1) unstable; urgency=medium . * Snapshot, taken from the 2.25 branch 2014. - Update .MIPS.abiflags to support MIPS R6. * gold: Misc updates for the AArch64 backend, taken from the trunk

Accepted binutils 2.24.90.20141111-2 (source all amd64) into unstable

2014-11-11 Thread Matthias Klose
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 11:10:27 +0100 Source: binutils Binary: binutils binutils-dev binutils-multiarch binutils-multiarch-dev binutils-hppa64 binutils-doc binutils-source Architecture: source all amd64 Version: 2.24.90.2014-2

Accepted libtuxcap 1.4.0.dfsg2-2.2 (source amd64) into unstable

2014-11-11 Thread Colin Watson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Format: 1.8 Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2014 10:16:34 + Source: libtuxcap Binary: libtuxcap-dev libtuxcap4.0 libtuxcap4.0-dbg Architecture: source amd64 Version: 1.4.0.dfsg2-2.2 Distribution: unstable Urgency: medium Maintainer: Debian Games Team

Accepted openvpn 2.3.4-4 (source amd64) into unstable

2014-11-11 Thread Alberto Gonzalez Iniesta
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Format: 1.8 Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2014 13:59:54 +0100 Source: openvpn Binary: openvpn Architecture: source amd64 Version: 2.3.4-4 Distribution: unstable Urgency: medium Maintainer: Alberto Gonzalez Iniesta a...@inittab.org Changed-By: Alberto Gonzalez

Accepted isl 0.14-1 (source amd64) into experimental

2014-11-11 Thread Matthias Klose
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 12:24:42 +0100 Source: isl Binary: libisl-dev libisl-dbg libisl13 Architecture: source amd64 Version: 0.14-1 Distribution: experimental Urgency: medium Maintainer: Debian GCC Maintainers debian-...@lists.debian.org

Accepted tix 8.4.3-6 (source amd64) into unstable

2014-11-11 Thread georgesk
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Format: 1.8 Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 12:10:19 +0100 Source: tix Binary: tix tix-dev Architecture: source amd64 Version: 8.4.3-6 Distribution: unstable Urgency: medium Maintainer: Georges Khaznadar georg...@debian.org Changed-By: georg...@debian.org

Accepted paulstretch 2.2-2-3 (source) into unstable

2014-11-11 Thread Sebastian Ramacher
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Format: 1.8 Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 13:33:39 +0100 Source: paulstretch Binary: paulstretch Architecture: source Version: 2.2-2-3 Distribution: unstable Urgency: medium Maintainer: Debian Multimedia Maintainers

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