to be removed in
the next upload of Xorg to unstable, be it 6.8 or 6.9. If this really is an
important issue, I can do a 6.8 upload to unstable within 24 hours.
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the windowmaker package. It has (or had as of a few years ago) a
beautiful Debian theme complete with a very nice wallpaper. Creating
similar themes for other window managers and desktop environments would be
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. It might help overcome the sense that key people aren't
communicating, as well as provide more easy avenues for NM's to get
involved that don't simply involve packaging some crap little script from
freshmeat.
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[0] A Debian Games team would be a perfect hypothetical example of this. So
take ownership of a
package within the team) but also a cohesiveness and a known set of people
to turn to when you're in need.
It's pretty simple to found such a team too. All it takes is some
interested people and an alioth project.
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all the bugs by any means, but I got at
least some feedback. Then again, Xorg is special in that people with newer
hardware often need the updates.
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of becoming the mesa maintainer, but
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software on the scale that Debian
exists is fundamentally a social activity, and if you want it to work you
have to make an effort on the human level. All this crap about launchpad,
arch vs svn, and other such tools is entirely the wrong debate to be
having.
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On Fri, Jan 06, 2006 at 09:26:33AM -0500, Nathanael Nerode wrote:
Hello! This is one of 5 RC bugs, apparently with no maintainer response.
Apparently the list which is listed as the maintainer is rejecting messages
(336752
they
made it for themselves) but they do present a great opportunity for us to
establish these kinds of working relationships.
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However, on the other hand feel free to create a common maintained
packages team that adopts such packages :)
Isn't that pretty much what the qa team does?
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think that's what serves to create a pretty strong impression that Ubuntu
is actually working very closely with Debian to do things like address the
issues that keep many users from using Debian. From the sound of this
thread everyone would welcome what's on that page with open arms.
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differences between our X packages and Knoppix's for instance.
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On Fri, Jan 13, 2006 at 03:53:51PM -0800, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
On Fri, Jan 13, 2006 at 05:49:40PM -0500, David Nusinow wrote:
I don't buy this. The impression that just about everyone has of this
didn't come from nowhere.
Not from nowhere, no. The statements that Ubuntu steals users from
, and I can NMU gerris sometime over the next few days
with your patch in his report.
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On Mon, Jan 16, 2006 at 03:42:54PM -0500, David Nusinow wrote:
On Mon, Jan 16, 2006 at 10:25:58AM -0500, kamaraju kusumanchi wrote:
Hi all
Please let me know if there is other appropriate mailing list to
report this problem. I am looking at the package gerris. This package
has a FTBFS
(and in this case, fellow Debian
developer) in to the ground. Some of us who do care might want to see
something positive come out of this long and painful thread.
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in to its component parts and not installing it all by
default. This problem has been largely abrogated as of late, but I'd rather
not see us piss off the python community for making a similar mistake.
That said, I don't really understand why it's Ok for Ubuntu to do this but
not us.
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On Thu, Jan 19, 2006 at 03:18:48PM -0800, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
On Thu, Jan 19, 2006 at 05:58:20PM -0500, David Nusinow wrote:
That said, I don't really understand why it's Ok for Ubuntu to do this but
not us.
Ubuntu never installs python-minimal without python, even in base.
Ah, ok
of the installation process you will necessarily have the full
python somehow. Is this correct?
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I've got an NMU prepared and sitting in the XSF svn repo[0]. Almost all the
work was done by Daniel Stone, so I mainly had to add the appropriate bug
closers in the changelog.
This NMU will depend on a new version of libdrm
just fine to Debian. I'll be uploading packages to
experimental shortly to test for this, although I don't recommend anyone
use it outside of a chroot until we have a more or less complete X suite
available in experimental. If you have any questions or comments, please
feel free to ask.
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On Mon, Jan 23, 2006 at 12:15:23AM -0500, Joey Hess wrote:
David Nusinow wrote:
One of the changes happening for Xorg 7.0 is that it will finally become
FHS compliant.
FWIW, the FHS 2.1 specifies /usr/X11R6 in section 4.1. I can't see
anything FHS-incompliant about the current setup
anything installing to /usr/bin/X11 will actually install to
/usr/bin.
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Right. The everything that you'd expect to go in to /usr/bin and
/usr/lib will install there, at least as far as Xorg goes. An example of
that is that the new xterm package installs to /usr
On Mon, Jan 23, 2006 at 07:32:33AM +0100, Mike Hommey wrote:
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Right. The everything that you'd expect to go in to /usr/bin and /usr/lib
will install there, at least as far as Xorg goes. An example
On Mon, Jan 23, 2006 at 02:48:33AM -0500, Joey Hess wrote:
David Nusinow wrote:
Right. The everything that you'd expect to go in to /usr/bin and /usr/lib
will install there, at least as far as Xorg goes. An example of that is
that the new xterm package installs to /usr/bin rather than /usr
for Debian rather than troll -project you'll find this
out for yourself.
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been first
to the site. While perl has its share of problems, it's not that bad and
refusing to work in it is a little absurd.
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Right. The everything that you'd expect to go in to /usr/bin and /usr/lib
will install there, at least as far as Xorg goes. An example
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track of it easily.
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packaged it sooner. I'm glad it's on its
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as well.
Just my $0.02
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by default. If you know enough to know
you need the server, then you should be able to install it yourself, you
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* Colin Walters
| Anthony Towns has mentioned a few times that he thinks sarge will use
| Linux 2.6, which comes with most of the goodies like preemption already
| included. We'll probably just need a separate
On Tue, Apr 22, 2003 at 02:53:38PM +1000, Martin Pool wrote:
Debian should not stomp all over the author's intentions if it is
reasonably avoidable. The alternatives do not seem to have been
adequately explored.
You're forgetting that we don't really know what Reiser's intentions
are. His
On Wed, Apr 23, 2003 at 05:39:25PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote:
Can't you understand that as an author you would like that messages
like this are not removed without your consent? The internet
robustness principle says: Be liberal in what you accept and
conservative in what you send. Modifiying
On Fri, Apr 25, 2003 at 03:27:57PM -0500, David Krider wrote:
Please don't tell me, We'll blah, blah release blah when blah it's
blah, blah, blah ready.
What do you expect people to say? This is the development model. If you
think things are going too slow, help out and start squashing bugs.
On Tue, Apr 29, 2003 at 06:13:38AM +0200, Alexander Wirt wrote:
Hi folks,
i have written a small wrapper for apt-get that makes it possible to
install all recommended and/or suggested Packages for a Package too.
A simple Call of: aag -rs package would install all recommended and
suggested
in this section would
be helpful? It'd finally put it down somewhere where people can point
to, and maybe cut a few of these debates a little shorter.
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have to have a
conference in the Northeast, after all.
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packagers are encouraged to adopt
other software that's already in the archive before packaging new
items. In this case, he is merely following that advice.
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On Tue, May 27, 2003 at 11:46:45AM -0400, Aaron M. Ucko wrote:
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Another point of note is that nascent packagers are encouraged to adopt
other software that's already in the archive before packaging new
items. In this case, he is merely following
frontend. If you're interested in collaborating on
this, write me back and we can get started on it. I'd much appreciate
some help. If you want to see an example of how it would work, take a
look at configure-debian as it is.
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on this whole idea. It'd help integrate
Debian more tightly, and would provide even more incentive to totally
standardize on debconf for certain tasks. It would be appropriate for
this bug as well, allowing integration of location based data.
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/mailname management as an example of something that's
ad-hoc at the moment. debconf-doc seems like the correct package in
which to put a registry.
Works for me. Of course, the debconf maintainer should weigh in on the
idea of adding to his package.
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, hope that the aim
is to eventually have a very friendly installer. Even the most
knowledgable people will appreciate hardware detection.
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On Fri, Dec 03, 2004 at 12:12:53PM +0900, Mike Hommey wrote:
You're being offensive, you should not be included in Debian.
Reading this one comment made this whole craptacular thread worth reading.
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Iran.
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ObRC: #280901
like help or a
comaintainer, let me know.
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David Nusinow wrote:
I worked on a package for this throughout the weekend, and while it's not
done
I've made some considerable progress on it. If you'd like help or a
comaintainer, let me know.
For the package, I
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on the security team?
The problems extend beyond the mirrors and the buildds.
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they've demonstrated their abilities and value time and again. I'm very happy
about this proposal.
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Hi, David Nusinow wrote:
What about the *massive* issues with releasing d-i due to syncing on all
arch's?
Yeah, and *after* these were solved, it was oops, we still can't release
because of $different_problem
that. One thing
that we've seen lots of is people happy and willing to donate buildd's for
their pet arch. I'd imagine those could be converted to package pool space and
such. The bandwidth issue I have no answer for though.
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, it's just a lot of manpower and lot of scripts.
it will drive the SCC archs away from debian so that they
have some time to themselves to stabilise.
Possibly, but I hope not.
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for each SCC) part of
the plan in the email? I don't think anyone wants to break alioth further.
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Hopefully not that huge, as the tools have already been written. Perhaps there
can be a single package pool for all SCC/Tier-2 arches so it only has to be
done once.
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unintuititive. Not that dselect is bad
by any means (I often recommend using it, especially to build the
sources list) but for general everyday use, aptitude is gnenerally much
better.
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a decent
amount of controversy, so having a question available for
dpkg-reconfigure'ing or control freaks might be handy.
And, as for the meat of the question, I like the number pad myself, but
then again I have a laptop, so it's hjkl for me.
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the classic case
of 9 women not being able to make a baby in 1 month, and with the way
things are we just have to be patient.
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rush this sort of thing though, start small and work
on building your skills and understanding.
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, as well as the x-window-system one, has just
been replaced by a single metapackage named xorg.
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release team, who I should definitely have coordinated with beforehand.
Note that I would have done so if I'd realized the magnitude of the
problem, and not doing so was entirely my error.
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going to continue to work hard on this. If you want to help dig
us out of it, I'll welcome any patches you care to submit that are up to
your standards of quality. Until then though, feel free to kiss my ass.
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to be
needed to get it to look in the new fonts locations.
There's a bug report open against xfonts-utils to use --x11r7-layout as
default. I'm going to do just that in the next release, so hopefully this
won't be necessary in the long-run.
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for Etch, but my goal for Etch+1 is to make all this go away and much
more.
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I think a fundamental problem is that we're seeing is that tasksel hasn't
generally been sold very well to anyone. I've tried myself to push it
towards users in #debian, but immediately people hop up and cry out
informed. I'd be
surprised if xaw3d couldn't just change back to xaw7, unless it truly needs
the xprint support.
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in ubuntu but it failed...
Compiz was building ok BTW...
See http://lists.debian.org/debian-x/2006/04/msg02216.html for the current
problem list. If anyone wants to help make Xgl in Debian a reality, I'd
love the help, but right now it's not looking very likely any time soon.
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besides the removal of xserver-common that you think is
an issue?
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This doesn't appear to be a bug at all, but instead everything looks
good. xlibmesa-glu is deprecated in favor of
libglu1-mesa. xserver-common is a dead package as of Xorg 7.0, so it's
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This doesn't appear to be a bug at all, but instead everything looks
good. xlibmesa-glu is deprecated in favor
daily. There's no shame in
doing so, and Jose should take advantage of it to become a stronger
maintainer.
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for the Debian project. They have a
say, but they don't get to make a decision, or make any claims on behalf of
the project. This applies to debian-legal contributors as well.
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However, I *do* believe that d-l is a cesspit, and I for one am very
glad that in its current incarnation, it is not at all binding and has
no value other than being a debating
, yada seems to generate a lot of dislike.
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Also, pbuilder and debootstrap are considered absolutely critical for
serious work.
That's a bold statement.
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Subversion, in conjunction with alioth, has risen dramatically in
Debian to accomodate team-based maintainance. There are of course
plenty of challengers
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(I'm seriously
interested in setting up git.debian.org for XSF work, for example*),
* If anyone else is interested in this, contact me and we'll talk
There is _something_
be missing things. But I did
investigate a large number of patch systems for use with xorg and they all
had this in common.
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or whatever instead of Debian for that matter) worry about
making Debian the best system that it can be, and that means writing
code.
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a zillion bug reports, mailing lists, and irc
channels just to hear what we plan to do.
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tree for
etch.
Closing, congratulations for both teams anyway.
Thank you very much.
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reported this issue, and I plan to look in to it
as soon as the packages are updated to build properly on all arches where
they've failed.
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X700 etc.
http://lists.debian.org/debian-x/2005/06/msg00179.html
Now I'm pondering between sending a patch and trusting
people to check their TODO lists :=)
Patches are most assuredly welcome :-)
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then push ahead towards getting the upcoming X.Org release in to the
archive as close to its release date as possible.
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ssystem
stellarium
xscreensaver-gl
I will try to make a dummy-package which provides xlibmesa-glu and
depends on libglu1-xorg. ;-)
Please don't do this. We're trying to transition the libglu1-xorg packages
and the above packages should be fixed by their respective maintainers in
time.
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