Re: Making better use of multiple maintainers

2001-09-05 Thread David Starner
On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 01:02:34AM +0200, Martin Michlmayr wrote: However, I'm not sure I agree that a backup is totally useless in the case of celestia. What happens if you're on vacation, woody is released tomorrow and a RC bug is filed on celestia today and noone cares to upload a fixed

Re: Making better use of multiple maintainers

2001-09-05 Thread Nick Phillips
On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 01:02:34AM +0200, Martin Michlmayr wrote: useless in the case of celestia. What happens if you're on vacation, woody is released tomorrow and a RC bug is filed on celestia today and noone cares to upload a fixed package? Similarly, if you were really busy for a

Re: Making better use of multiple maintainers

2001-09-05 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Le Tue, Sep 04, 2001 at 12:30:12PM -0400, Joey Hess écrivait: I would like to see this oft-requested feature, but in the meantime there is nothing to prevent you as a backup maintainer from seeing every bug for every package you backup maintain. debian-bugs-dist + procmail. Trivial. Of

Re: Making better use of multiple maintainers

2001-09-04 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Le Sun, Sep 02, 2001 at 07:55:43PM +0200, Martin Michlmayr écrivait: I think we should try to implement that scheme at least for packages in base and standard... but why not go ahead and try to do it for all packages? Yes, this is a long term thing to do ... it will be quite a logical step

Re: Making better use of multiple maintainers

2001-09-04 Thread Joey Hess
Raphael Hertzog wrote: There's several things that have to be done : - be able to subscribe other people to a package bug list (in this case the people listed in the Uploaders field), there should be some automation here, otherwise beeing in the Uploader field won't change anything as

Re: Making better use of multiple maintainers

2001-09-04 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Marcelo E. Magallon [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20010902 21:26]: * wmaker. It's not a complex package, but it operates under several * celestia. Simple. Very limited scope. Not many configuration options. Would I like to find a co-maintainer for wmaker? Yes. Celestia? No. My criteria

Re: Making better use of multiple maintainers

2001-09-03 Thread Joey Hess
I think it's a great idea. I also note that quite a few base packages already have multiple or backup maintainers -- dpkg, boot-floppies, and tasksel come to mind. I've also been unofficial backup maintainer for some other packages in the past and I doubt I'm alone. Formalizing this and using the

Re: Making better use of multiple maintainers

2001-09-03 Thread Stefan Hornburg Racke
Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think it's a great idea. I also note that quite a few base packages already have multiple or backup maintainers -- dpkg, boot-floppies, and tasksel come to mind. I've also been unofficial backup maintainer for some other packages in the past and I doubt

Re: Making better use of multiple maintainers

2001-09-03 Thread Eric Van Buggenhaut
On Sun, Sep 02, 2001 at 07:55:43PM +0200, Martin Michlmayr wrote: During the base freeze preparations in the last few weeks, a problem Debian has always had became apparent again. Since Debian is a distributed, volunteer run project it is hard to tell whether a maintainer is doing Debian work

Re: Making better use of multiple maintainers

2001-09-03 Thread James Troup
Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm having a hard time getting it to work though. I tried Uploaders with dpkg 1.9.17 and no go: dpkg-gencontrol: warning: unknown information field Uploaders in input data in general section of control info file It needs to be in the source section of the

Re: Making better use of multiple maintainers

2001-09-03 Thread Joey Hess
James Troup wrote: Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm having a hard time getting it to work though. I tried Uploaders with dpkg 1.9.17 and no go: dpkg-gencontrol: warning: unknown information field Uploaders in input data in general section of control info file It needs to be

Re: Making better use of multiple maintainers

2001-09-03 Thread James Troup
Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That's how I tried it, no go. dpkg-gencontrol does not contain the word '[Uu]ploaders' on my system either. Oh, right, yah, okay; it appears it was only dpkg-source that was patched. The dpkg-gencontrol is just a warning though, the Uploaders field still

Making better use of multiple maintainers

2001-09-02 Thread Martin Michlmayr
During the base freeze preparations in the last few weeks, a problem Debian has always had became apparent again. Since Debian is a distributed, volunteer run project it is hard to tell whether a maintainer is doing Debian work at the moment. In the freeze, it is often crucial to get a bug fixed

Re: Making better use of multiple maintainers

2001-09-02 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
Martin Michlmayr [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: - Bugs could get fixed sooner since more people are working on the package. This would help us meeting our release goals. The Mythical Man Month, of which Debian is exemplary[0]. Given enough eyes, all bugs are shallow, of which Debian is

Re: Making better use of multiple maintainers

2001-09-02 Thread John Galt
How are things going to get better if new things like this aren't tried? It'll certainly knock out some issues in sponsorship and NM... If your only objections are those of the improbability of getting it to work, let Martin run with it and find out for hisself. On Sun, 2 Sep 2001, Marcelo E.

Re: Making better use of multiple maintainers

2001-09-02 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
[ your Mail-Followup-To is still leaving the list out ] John Galt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How are things going to get better if new things like this aren't tried? It'll certainly knock out some issues in sponsorship and NM... If your only objections are those of the improbability of

Re: Making better use of multiple maintainers

2001-09-02 Thread Branden Robinson
On Sun, Sep 02, 2001 at 10:57:06PM +0200, Marcelo E. Magallon wrote: I ought to listen to Zinsser and use shorter words Only with Galt. -- G. Branden Robinson|If you wish to strive for peace of Debian GNU/Linux |soul, then believe; if you wish to