On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 11:15:12AM +0100, Michael Ole Olsen wrote:
If there was a choice in the installer for Init system and boot loader there
would be nobody complaining.
People only complain when there isn't a choice and they are forced to use
something new.
From what research are you
On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 12:19:06PM +0100, Andreas Tille wrote:
From what research are you taking this generalisation? All non-IT
experts I know (proof by counter-example) would be really happy to have
no choice but rather one single option which works. You might also like
Of course, but the
If there was a choice in the installer for Init system and boot loader there
would be nobody complaining.
People only complain when there isn't a choice and they are forced to use
something new.
I.e.
forced to use ext4 instead of ext3
forced to use grub instead of lilo
forced to use systemX
On 10/11/14 10:15, Michael Ole Olsen wrote:
If there was a choice in the installer for Init system
and boot loader there would be nobody complaining.
If I had to choose an init system and a boot loader during the normal
installation flow, I'd complain. Options have a cost, forcing a user to
Quoting Simon McVittie (2014-11-10 12:31:10)
On 10/11/14 10:15, Michael Ole Olsen wrote:
If there was a choice in the installer for Init system and boot
loader there would be nobody complaining.
If I had to choose an init system and a boot loader during the normal
installation flow, I'd
Hi,
Jonas Smedegaard:
If we had the *option* of init system choice at install time (even if
completely hidden from default UI only activated by a commandline
option), I believe that would radically limit complaints.
I doubt that, given the history of this discussion. :-/
In any case,
Quoting Matthias Urlichs (2014-11-10 12:51:50)
Jonas Smedegaard:
If we had the *option* of init system choice at install time (even if
completely hidden from default UI only activated by a commandline
option), I believe that would radically limit complaints.
I doubt that, given the
On 11/10/2014 04:15 AM, Michael Ole Olsen wrote:
If there was a choice in the installer for Init system and boot loader there
would be nobody complaining.
But here my point is to put it in perspective. Somebody isn't going to
get their way on this, whether it be the system they prefer as
On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 12:51:50PM +0100, Matthias Urlichs wrote:
Hi,
Jonas Smedegaard:
If we had the *option* of init system choice at install time (even if
completely hidden from default UI only activated by a commandline
option), I believe that would radically limit complaints.
Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk (2014-11-10):
If we had the *option* of init system choice at install time (even if
completely hidden from default UI only activated by a commandline
option), I believe that would radically limit complaints.
We already have, Simon mentioned one way to do it.
On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 11:31:10AM +, Simon McVittie wrote:
If you have sufficiently specialized requirements that our recommended
default is unsuitable, that's a good time to look into the expert
installer mode, pre-seeding, or installing with the default
init/bootloader/etc. and
Quoting Cyril Brulebois (2014-11-10 15:57:06)
Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk (2014-11-10):
If we had the *option* of init system choice at install time (even if
completely hidden from default UI only activated by a commandline
option), I believe that would radically limit complaints.
We
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