On Fri, Mar 05, 2010 at 02:07:01PM -0600, Peter Samuelson wrote:
[Russ Allbery]
Figuring out a better solution for why the files in /var/lib/ispell
and /var/lib/aspell are excluded from the md5sums generation because
they change after installation is probably needed if we're going to
On Fri, Mar 05, 2010 at 11:45:38AM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
Don Armstrong d...@debian.org writes:
On Wed, 03 Mar 2010, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
In this day and age of completely and utterly broken MD5[0], I think we
should stop providing these files, and maybe provide something else
On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 10:47:18AM +0100, Agustin Martin wrote:
On Fri, Mar 05, 2010 at 02:07:01PM -0600, Peter Samuelson wrote:
[Russ Allbery]
Figuring out a better solution for why the files in /var/lib/ispell
and /var/lib/aspell are excluded from the md5sums generation because
Le Sun, Mar 07, 2010 at 02:42:02PM +0100, Niels Thykier a écrit :
In my team (pkg-java) we seem to treat these upload as completely normal
Maintainer Uploads; meaning that the Team Uploader is not restricted
to minimal changes but may[1] fix whatever needs to be done (e.g. fix
lintian
Hi Charles,
On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 10:40:47PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
Are there other persons interested? Shall I go ahead and submit a patch to
Lintian and the Developers Reference (plus perhaps the Policy to include a
footnote containing the special changelog lines for NMU, QA,
Jan Hauke Rahm wrote:
Hi Charles,
On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 10:40:47PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
Are there other persons interested? Shall I go ahead and submit a patch to
Lintian and the Developers Reference (plus perhaps the Policy to include a
footnote containing the special changelog
On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 10:40:47PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
Are there other persons interested? Shall I go ahead and submit a
patch to Lintian and the Developers Reference (plus perhaps the Policy
to include a footnote containing the special changelog lines for NMU,
QA, security and team
Don Armstrong d...@debian.org writes:
On Sat, 06 Mar 2010, Andreas Metzler wrote:
Russ Allbery r...@debian.org wrote:
Figuring out a better solution for why the files in
/var/lib/ispell and /var/lib/aspell are excluded from the md5sums
generation because they change after installation is
retitle 540215 Introduce dh_checksums
tag 540215 +patch
thanks
On Thu, 2010-03-04 at 20:08 +0100, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
Frank Lin PIAT wrote:
What about a transitional dh_md5sums that would produce md5sum AND
invoke dh_sha ?
Or call it dh_checksums or something so we don't have to
Jan Hauke Rahm j...@debian.org writes:
There is just one thing that bothers me: this new feature would invite
teams to actually put noone in the uploaders list. The team would be
maintainer and no real person would be listed in the package.
Lintian attempts to detect this but may not be able
Charles Plessy ple...@debian.org writes:
Are there other persons interested? Shall I go ahead and submit a patch
to Lintian and the Developers Reference (plus perhaps the Policy to
include a footnote containing the special changelog lines for NMU, QA,
security and team uploads)?
Just for the
Frank Lin PIAT wrote:
Note regarding the patch:
I have tried to make the patch so it isn't too intrusive (for
instance, dh_checksums is a symlink to dh_md5sums even though it
should be the other way around).
Symlink direction seems irrelevant.
I'd probably just make dh_md5sums call
On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 09:28:11AM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
Jan Hauke Rahm j...@debian.org writes:
There is just one thing that bothers me: this new feature would invite
teams to actually put noone in the uploaders list. The team would be
maintainer and no real person would be listed
Jan Hauke Rahm j...@debian.org writes:
Not quite. 5.12 recommends a way to deal with team maintenance but is
not enough here. Reading 5.12 (list as maintainer, the one who feels
responsible as uploader) still allows having no uploader when noone
feels responsible.
I'd like to see a clear
On Mon, 2010-03-08 at 12:21 -0500, Joey Hess wrote:
Frank Lin PIAT wrote:
Note regarding the patch:
I have tried to make the patch so it isn't too intrusive (for
instance, dh_checksums is a symlink to dh_md5sums even though it
should be the other way around).
Symlink direction
On Mon, 08 Mar 2010, Brian Nelson wrote:
Don Armstrong d...@debian.org writes:
So there's a period on upgrade where the file has been overwritten
with an file before the new file has been generated?
That's just wrong.
Why? Considering the old hash file may be invalid anyway after
On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 01:59, Ben Finney ben+deb...@benfinney.id.au wrote:
Luk Claes l...@debian.org writes:
There is currently discussion ongoing about how to move forward,
though due to the complex nature of the current situation (where also
lots of FUD etc is on the lists), it is being
Sandro Tosi mo...@debian.org writes:
So, three months are passed since the last email to the original thread
and 1 week from this last ping, and there are still no public
information about the currently discussion ongoing about how to move
forward.
Nice, let's keep this hidden, so that only
Frank Lin PIAT fp...@klabs.be writes:
Find a patch attached, for a smooth transition from DEBIAN/md5sums to a
recent checksum.
The way it is implemented, is that the dh_md5sums is a symlink to the
new dh_checksums. The new helper computes both md5sum (for
compatibility/transition) and a new
On Mon, 2010-03-08 at 12:59 -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
Frank Lin PIAT fp...@klabs.be writes:
Find a patch attached, for a smooth transition from DEBIAN/md5sums to a
recent checksum.
The way it is implemented, is that the dh_md5sums is a symlink to the
new dh_checksums. The new helper
Frank Lin PIAT fp...@klabs.be writes:
On Mon, 2010-03-08 at 12:59 -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
1. Strengthen the integrity check so that it could potentially be useful
for security purposes as well as for simple integrity checking.
Yes, this is the intended goal. Imagine the following
Russ Allbery wrote:
The missing link, in this validation scenario, is how to get a signed copy
of the MD5 checksums of the files in the package.
That's one missing link. The other one is that there are innumerable
ways for an attacker to inject bad behavior/backdoors onto a system
without
Some transitions for which there was an upload block in place have been
completed and the block has been automatically lifted:
The following transitions were removed:
Looking at transition: xz-utils-transition
Source: xz-utils
New Version: 4.999.9beta+20100212-4
Responsible: Marc
Hello,
A number of packages, such as openldap have been changed to support
gnutls, instead of openssl, to avoid licensing issues in openssl.
However, it appears that gnutls uses libgcrypt, and libgcrypt has
several serious design issues.
1. libgcrypt doesn't cleanup properly on dlclose, and
On Tue, Mar 09, 2010 at 10:34:37AM +1100, Brian May wrote:
Unfortunately, gcrypt is used by gnutls, which is used in ldap, which
is frequently used in PAM and NSS. So this is an issue. There might be
other NSS and PAM modules that use it too.
What is the solution? Should we go back to using
On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 21:53, Russ Allbery r...@debian.org wrote:
Sandro Tosi mo...@debian.org writes:
So, three months are passed since the last email to the original thread
and 1 week from this last ping, and there are still no public
information about the currently discussion ongoing about
Sandro Tosi mo...@debian.org writes:
On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 21:53, Russ Allbery r...@debian.org wrote:
Maybe the group of people doing that work should also be the people who
decide when Python 2.6 will be uploaded, if the current maintainer
isn't able or willing to coordinate the work for
On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 03:50:37PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote:
On Tue, Mar 09, 2010 at 10:34:37AM +1100, Brian May wrote:
Unfortunately, gcrypt is used by gnutls, which is used in ldap, which
is frequently used in PAM and NSS. So this is an issue. There might be
other NSS and PAM modules
On Tue, 9 Mar 2010, Joey Hess jo...@debian.org wrote:
Russ Allbery wrote:
The missing link, in this validation scenario, is how to get a signed
copy of the MD5 checksums of the files in the package.
That's one missing link. The other one is that there are innumerable
ways for an attacker
Roger Leigh rle...@codelibre.net writes:
The issue here is that upstream don't appear to want to fix it, because
the change in behaviour could break backward compatibility and
potentially introduce security exploits into programs relying on this
side-effect of gcrypt. Any change would
On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 16:27:37 -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
Can anyone confirm the comment in the bug log that setuid shouldn't even
be required to do what libgcrypt is doing here, namely locking memory so
that it's not swapped to disk?
linux-2.6/include/linux/resource.h:#define MLOCK_LIMIT
[Russ Allbery]
Can anyone confirm the comment in the bug log that setuid shouldn't
even be required to do what libgcrypt is doing here, namely locking
memory so that it's not swapped to disk?
Well, I didn't test, but from 'man mlock':
| Since Linux 2.6.9, no limits are placed on the
Dear all,
I have updated http://wiki.debian.org/TeamUpload and submitted #573110
to the Developers Reference.
I tend to manage my priorities by caring first of the packages listed
in my QA page, and then the other packages of my team. But if I add
myself as an uploader to all the packages I
Charles Plessy ple...@debian.org writes:
After the patch to the Dev. Ref. is accepted, I will submit a simple
patch to Lintian. I do not think that it is necessary for Lintian to
cross-check if the DD doing the team upload is really a team member.
I agree.
--
Russ Allbery (r...@debian.org)
On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 11:04:24PM +0100, Frank Lin PIAT wrote:
On Mon, 2010-03-08 at 12:59 -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
1. Strengthen the integrity check so that it could potentially be useful
for security purposes as well as for simple integrity checking.
It would be much easier if a
On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 05:59:13PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote:
Russ Allbery wrote:
The missing link, in this validation scenario, is how to get a signed copy
of the MD5 checksums of the files in the package.
That's one missing link. The other one is that there are innumerable
ways for an
Harald Braumann ha...@unheit.net writes:
On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 05:59:13PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote:
That's one missing link. The other one is that there are innumerable
ways for an attacker to inject bad behavior/backdoors onto a system
without touching binaries originating from dpkg.
Russ Allbery wrote:
It's also always worth bearing in mind that while a really good attacker
can do all sorts of complex things that make them very hard to find, most
attackers are stupid and straightforward.
It's stupid and straightforward to install /usr/local/bin/ls. debsums
will not detect
Joey Hess jo...@debian.org writes:
Russ Allbery wrote:
It's also always worth bearing in mind that while a really good
attacker can do all sorts of complex things that make them very hard to
find, most attackers are stupid and straightforward.
It's stupid and straightforward to install
On 08/03/10 at 16:14 -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
Sandro Tosi mo...@debian.org writes:
On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 21:53, Russ Allbery r...@debian.org wrote:
Maybe the group of people doing that work should also be the people who
decide when Python 2.6 will be uploaded, if the current maintainer
On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 07:44, Lucas Nussbaum lu...@lucas-nussbaum.net wrote:
Last time I investigated the python problems, it was quite clear that
the situation wasn't as black and white as some people seem to think.
Mind to share the results of your investigations (even if probably a
bit
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Daniel Kahn Gillmor d...@fifthhorseman.net
I'm in the process of packaging the perl implementation of the
Monkeysphere's cryptographic validation agent:
* Package name: msva-perl
Version : 0.1
Upstream Author : Daniel Kahn Gillmor
OoO En cette nuit nuageuse du mardi 09 mars 2010, vers 01:14, Russ
Allbery r...@debian.org disait :
Maybe the group of people doing that work should also be the people who
decide when Python 2.6 will be uploaded, if the current maintainer
isn't able or willing to coordinate the work for
On 09/03/10 at 08:05 +0100, Sandro Tosi wrote:
On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 07:44, Lucas Nussbaum lu...@lucas-nussbaum.net wrote:
Last time I investigated the python problems, it was quite clear that
the situation wasn't as black and white as some people seem to think.
Mind to share the results
On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 08:09, Vincent Bernat ber...@debian.org wrote:
Some respectable people keep telling us that the problem is handled and
the solution will come soon.
But OTOH very very few advances are made during these months, that
doesn't encourage to believe that soon is really soon
Vincent Bernat ber...@debian.org writes:
Russ Allbery r...@debian.org disait:
Well, I'm personally not directly involved with Python development, but
it seems like a lot of people are upset with the way that the python
package is being maintained. We do have a procedure for this: it falls
[Bringing this bug to the eyes of debian-devel readers]
On Wed, Mar 03, 2010 at 08:34:48PM +0100, Ana Guerrero wrote:
Package: ftp.debian.org
Hi,
While trying to sort of the Section field for the apps included in kdeedu,
I started to wonder if we are missing a subsection in the archive
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