Re: installer for non-free packages in contrib

2003-09-09 Thread Ryan Underwood
Hi, On Mon, Sep 08, 2003 at 10:13:59AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: On Mon, Sep 08, 2003 at 09:35:45AM +0200, Mathieu Roy wrote: Would it be acceptable to fill a bug against each installer that do not build a proper debian package when installing non-free software? How can they do so?

Re: installer for non-free packages in contrib

2003-09-09 Thread Andreas Metzler
Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] unless you think that it's better for the installer package to spit out a .deb somewhere which you then have to install separately, which seems to me like a step backwards in convenience. Depends, generating a deb has some bright sides: 'dpkg -S' and

Re: installer for non-free packages in contrib

2003-09-09 Thread Mathieu Roy
Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] a tapoté : At this point, the question is not how to do it. I can think about 30 ways to do it, while I'm surely not the expert here. I asked you a question which could be answered quite simply by producing one of those ways. Go on. It's my honest belief

Re: installer for non-free packages in contrib

2003-09-09 Thread Mathieu Roy
Ryan Underwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] a tapoté : Hi, On Mon, Sep 08, 2003 at 10:13:59AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: On Mon, Sep 08, 2003 at 09:35:45AM +0200, Mathieu Roy wrote: Would it be acceptable to fill a bug against each installer that do not build a proper debian package when

Re: installer for non-free packages in contrib

2003-09-09 Thread Bruce Sass
On Mon, 8 Sep 2003, Colin Watson wrote: OK. How does one create an installer package which correctly does the following: * creates a Debian package for the thing it's installing the installer contains a diff and dsc, downloads the orig source, then builds a .deb * installs that package

Re: installer for non-free packages in contrib

2003-09-09 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, Sep 09, 2003 at 09:17:13AM +0200, Mathieu Roy wrote: Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] a tapot? : I asked you a question which could be answered quite simply by producing one of those ways. Go on. It's my honest belief that it can't be done correctly; I'm open to hearing ways in which

Re: installer for non-free packages in contrib

2003-09-09 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, Sep 09, 2003 at 01:24:07AM -0600, Bruce Sass wrote: On Mon, 8 Sep 2003, Colin Watson wrote: * installs that package in such a way that it's registered in dpkg's database do the install in the background when the dpkg DB area is unlocked Yuck! Please, no! Error handling?

Re: installer for non-free packages in contrib

2003-09-09 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, Sep 09, 2003 at 12:37:04AM -0500, Ryan Underwood wrote: On Mon, Sep 08, 2003 at 10:13:59AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: On Mon, Sep 08, 2003 at 09:35:45AM +0200, Mathieu Roy wrote: Would it be acceptable to fill a bug against each installer that do not build a proper debian package

Re: installer for non-free packages in contrib

2003-09-09 Thread Mathieu Roy
Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] a tapoté : On Tue, Sep 09, 2003 at 09:17:13AM +0200, Mathieu Roy wrote: Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] a tapot? : I asked you a question which could be answered quite simply by producing one of those ways. Go on. It's my honest belief that it can't be done

Re: installer for non-free packages in contrib

2003-09-09 Thread Andreas Metzler
Mathieu Roy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] a tapoté : On Tue, Sep 09, 2003 at 09:17:13AM +0200, Mathieu Roy wrote: Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] a tapot? : I asked you a question which could be answered quite simply by producing one of those ways. Go on. It's my

Re: installer for non-free packages in contrib

2003-09-09 Thread Sam Hocevar
On Tue, Sep 09, 2003, Colin Watson wrote: It could be something like debian/track where 'track' is a list of files to be tracked by this package as if they were contained within it when it was built (even though they are actually downloaded during the package's postinst or by another

Re: installer for non-free packages in contrib

2003-09-08 Thread Branden Robinson
On Mon, Sep 08, 2003 at 09:35:45AM +0200, Mathieu Roy wrote: I did not noticed clear answer about my proposal about the non-free software installer in contrib. It might help if you posted a summary of the thread. Would it be acceptable to fill a bug against each installer that do not build a

Re: installer for non-free packages in contrib

2003-09-08 Thread Colin Watson
On Mon, Sep 08, 2003 at 09:35:45AM +0200, Mathieu Roy wrote: Would it be acceptable to fill a bug against each installer that do not build a proper debian package when installing non-free software? How can they do so? Installing a package with 'dpkg -i' in the postinst of another package isn't

Re: installer for non-free packages in contrib

2003-09-08 Thread Mathieu Roy
Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] a tapoté : On Mon, Sep 08, 2003 at 09:35:45AM +0200, Mathieu Roy wrote: Would it be acceptable to fill a bug against each installer that do not build a proper debian package when installing non-free software? How can they do so? Installing a package with

Re: installer for non-free packages in contrib

2003-09-08 Thread Colin Watson
On Mon, Sep 08, 2003 at 01:08:34PM +0200, Mathieu Roy wrote: Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] a tapot? : On Mon, Sep 08, 2003 at 09:35:45AM +0200, Mathieu Roy wrote: Would it be acceptable to fill a bug against each installer that do not build a proper debian package when installing

Re: installer for non-free packages in contrib

2003-09-08 Thread Mathieu Roy
Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] a tapoté : On Mon, Sep 08, 2003 at 01:08:34PM +0200, Mathieu Roy wrote: Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] a tapot? : On Mon, Sep 08, 2003 at 09:35:45AM +0200, Mathieu Roy wrote: Would it be acceptable to fill a bug against each installer that do not build

Re: installer for non-free packages in contrib

2003-09-08 Thread Colin Watson
On Mon, Sep 08, 2003 at 06:42:46PM +0200, Mathieu Roy wrote: [Please stop sending me private copies of list mail.] Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] a tapot? : On Mon, Sep 08, 2003 at 01:08:34PM +0200, Mathieu Roy wrote: Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] a tapot? : On Mon, Sep 08, 2003 at

Re: installer for non-free packages in contrib

2003-09-08 Thread Travis Crump
Colin Watson wrote: ? I think that's a minimal specification for a correct installer package which does its work by creating Debian packages; unless you think that it's better for the installer package to spit out a .deb somewhere which you then have to install separately, which seems to me like a