Re: Is this software really GPL?

2004-10-20 Thread Anthony Youngman
Note: I've left Anthony Youngman's email address in the headers, but I seem to have a local problem where email to Anthony bounces. [I can work around that, using telnet, but it's a pain.] quote I strongly suggest that you read the following two web pages:

Re: Is this software really GPL?

2004-10-20 Thread Raul Miller
On Wed, Oct 20, 2004 at 08:04:31AM +0100, Anthony Youngman wrote: Sorry for lookout mangling my cut-n-paste - this isn't quite a proper reply ... And the guy who admins this system claims I should be able to email you now... so hopefully you won't have to do much more of that. Did you look at

Re: Is this software really GPL?

2004-10-20 Thread Raul Miller
On Wed, Oct 20, 2004 at 06:09:29AM -0400, I wrote: Instead, it's pointing out that you can't prohibit employees [for example, ad subsidiaries] from distributing it to your competitors or Er, I meant at, not ad. -- Raul

Re: Is this software really GPL?

2004-10-20 Thread Raul Miller
On Wed, Oct 20, 2004 at 11:23:11AM +0100, Anthony Youngman wrote: But as I see it, they (QM) are adding an extra restriction, as proscribed by the GPL (clauses 6 and 7). If you distribute to subsidiaries, you may not stop them distributing to the world. But the GPL explicitly recognises

RE: Is this software really GPL?

2004-10-20 Thread Anthony Youngman
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 October 2004 11:09 To: Anthony Youngman Cc: debian-legal@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Is this software really GPL? On Wed, Oct 20, 2004 at 08:04:31AM +0100, Anthony Youngman wrote: Sorry for lookout mangling my cut-n-paste - this isn't quite a proper reply

Is this software really GPL?

2004-10-19 Thread Anthony W. Youngman
Sorry if this is not quite the right place, but I'm somewhat fuming ... There's a really nice piece of software, called QM (it's a database) that has allegedly been released under the GPL by its owner, one Martin Philips, of a company called Ladybridge, in England. He was talked into doing

Re: Is this software really GPL?

2004-10-19 Thread Raul Miller
On Tue, Oct 19, 2004 at 11:23:33PM +0100, Anthony W. Youngman wrote: I strongly suggest that you read the following two web pages: http://easyco.com/initiative/openqm/opensource/index.htm and the accompanying faq: http://easyco.com/initiative/openqm/opensource/faq.htm Is there any

Re: Is this software really GPL?

2004-10-19 Thread Don Armstrong
[I'm taking the liberty of Cc:'ing you against Debian list policy. Please set MFT in the future if you wish people to respond to you personally.] On Tue, 19 Oct 2004, Anthony W. Youngman wrote: Sorry if this is not quite the right place, but I'm somewhat fuming ... There's a really nice piece

Re: Is this software really GPL?

2004-10-19 Thread Raul Miller
On Tue, Oct 19, 2004 at 07:36:08PM -0400, Raul Miller wrote: [4] GPL means GNU Public license and all sources are readily available under the GPL. In this case, the author of those pages is probably not competent. Actually, the pages at those urls look fine -- it's either myself or the other

Re: Is this software really GPL?

2004-10-19 Thread Raul Miller
Note: I've left Anthony Youngman's email address in the headers, but I seem to have a local problem where email to Anthony bounces. [I can work around that, using telnet, but it's a pain.] quote I strongly suggest that you read the following two web pages:

Re: Is this software really GPL?

2004-10-19 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Tue, Oct 19, 2004 at 07:36:08PM -0400, Raul Miller wrote: Is there any reason to believe that by GPL they mean the GNU Public License? The G in GPL is General, not GNU. (I'm sure you know this, but you said GNU Public License several times in this mail.) I can think of several possible

Re: Is this software really GPL?

2004-10-19 Thread Don Armstrong
On Tue, 19 Oct 2004, Raul Miller wrote: quote I strongly suggest that you read the following two web pages: http://easyco.com/initiative/openqm/opensource/index.htm and the accompanying faq: http://easyco.com/initiative/openqm/opensource/faq.htm /quote On Tue, Oct

Re: Is this software really GPL?

2004-10-19 Thread Raul Miller
On Tue, Oct 19, 2004 at 07:46:07PM -0400, Glenn Maynard wrote: On Tue, Oct 19, 2004 at 07:36:08PM -0400, Raul Miller wrote: Is there any reason to believe that by GPL they mean the GNU Public License? The G in GPL is General, not GNU. (I'm sure you know this, but you said GNU Public

Re: Is this software really GPL?

2004-10-19 Thread Josh Triplett
Raul Miller wrote: Is there any reason to believe that by GPL they mean the GNU Public License? Just a note: s/GNU Public License/General Public License/g. GPL is General Public License, and GNU GPL is GNU General Public License; there is no such thing as the GNU Public License, although it is

Re: Is this software really GPL?

2004-10-19 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Tue, Oct 19, 2004 at 08:25:07PM -0400, Raul Miller wrote: You cannot install, or ask your customer to install a GPL version of OpenQM and then install your own product unless that product is also delivered to the user under GPL or an approved variant. This would be accurate for the

Re: Is this software really GPL?

2004-10-19 Thread Josh Triplett
Glenn Maynard wrote: On Tue, Oct 19, 2004 at 08:25:07PM -0400, Raul Miller wrote: You cannot install, or ask your customer to install a GPL version of OpenQM and then install your own product unless that product is also delivered to the user under GPL or an approved variant. This would be

Re: Is this software really GPL?

2004-10-19 Thread Raul Miller
On Tue, Oct 19, 2004 at 08:44:46PM -0400, Glenn Maynard wrote: It's misleading. Yes. There are lawyers who will express things in a misleading fashion if they think that's in the best interests of their clients, and if they think they will not get in legal trouble for doing so. -- Raul