Re: a better copyleft licence

2000-10-03 Thread Barak Pearlmutter
I must have phrased that poorly. If so, I'd appreciate a proper unambiguous wording. Here is my intent: I will allow you to take my code and use it as a module in another program, *provided* that *entire* program is distributed as free (as in speech) software (including full sources

Re: a better copyleft licence

2000-10-03 Thread Stephen Turner
On Tue, 3 Oct 2000, Barak Pearlmutter wrote: Ie it's okay to distribute it linked so something else that's incompatible with the GPL for some lame reason, but not with something that's incompatible with the GPL because it's not free or doesn't include sources. I seriously doubt whether

Re: a better copyleft licence

2000-10-03 Thread Jeffry Smith
On Mon, 2 Oct 2000, Edmund GRIMLEY EVANS wrote: Jeffry Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]: If someone wants to distribute a proprietary module, let them distribute it separately, and tell the user that it's there responsibility to link it. Yes, it's a pain on the users, but if you don't like it,

Re: a better copyleft licence

2000-10-02 Thread Richard Braakman
On Sun, Oct 01, 2000 at 11:17:22PM -0600, Barak Pearlmutter wrote: This software is licensed under the GPL [... standard boilerplate.] In addition to the distribution rights granted by the GPL, this software may used as a module linked to other modules resulting in a whole which

Re: a better copyleft licence

2000-10-02 Thread Bernhard R. Link
On Sun, 1 Oct 2000, Barak Pearlmutter wrote: program, even if the entire program is not licensed under terms compatible with the GPL, and the resulting work distributed, *provided* that the composite work is distributed under DFSG-compatible terms. I do not think you really

Re: a better copyleft licence

2000-10-02 Thread Edmund GRIMLEY EVANS
Jeffry Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]: If someone wants to distribute a proprietary module, let them distribute it separately, and tell the user that it's there responsibility to link it. Yes, it's a pain on the users, but if you don't like it, use the GPL. I sometimes think the GPL might be

Re: a better copyleft licence

2000-10-02 Thread Barak Pearlmutter
You all know the sort of problem: according to some people's understanding of the GPL and copyright law, GPL software X cannot be linked with GPL-incompatible software Y and then distributed even if X and Y are separate works in separate packages. Invent yet another licence? I hope not.

Re: a better copyleft licence

2000-09-28 Thread Raul Miller
On Thu, Sep 28, 2000 at 04:02:20PM +0100, Edmund GRIMLEY EVANS wrote: No doubt some people approve of this, but I think there are a lot of people who would prefer to apply a milder form of copyleft to their programs. How should they do this? I thought we had proposed a reasonably decent

Re: a better copyleft licence

2000-09-28 Thread Edmund GRIMLEY EVANS
Raul Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I thought we had proposed a reasonably decent paragraph to the KDE people? Can't that be dusted off and used in different contexts? Maybe. I haven't seen that paragraph. In addition to the permissions in the GNU General Public Licence, if this software

Re: a better copyleft licence

2000-09-28 Thread Edmund GRIMLEY EVANS
Raul Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The LGPL doesn't seem to prevent someone from adding a non-free extension to a program. My clause is supposed to prevent the worst abuses by insisting that the added code can reasonably be considered an independent and separate work. That just means that

Re: a better copyleft licence

2000-09-28 Thread James Antill
Edmund GRIMLEY EVANS [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Raul Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The LGPL doesn't seem to prevent someone from adding a non-free extension to a program. My clause is supposed to prevent the worst abuses by insisting that the added code can reasonably be considered an

Re: a better copyleft licence

2000-09-28 Thread Raul Miller
Raul Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]: That just means that someone can slap on somthing so that the code can run standalone. On Thu, Sep 28, 2000 at 06:39:24PM +0100, Edmund GRIMLEY EVANS wrote: I intend the expression to mean rather more than just that. Ok, so it needs work. I could add some