License requiring to reproduce copyrights in binary distributions.

2009-07-01 Thread Charles Plessy
Dear all,

It appeared in various discussions about either DEP5 or the NEW queue that
licenses vary in their requirement for reproducing the authors copyrights in
binary distributions. In order to start clarifying the situation, I propose to
list for the most common licenses when they require to reproduce copyright
statements. The final goal is to help packagers to keep the debian/copyright 
file
simple while respecting license terms.

I propose to make this list on the Debian wiki, and created a draft page:
http://wiki.debian.org/CopyrightNotices

For the moment, the list has three easy entries as example:

 - The WTFPL, that allows everything, therefore to not cite copyrights anywhere.
 - The GPL, that assumes that the source is always available, and therefore
   does not have special requirements for binary distributions.
 - The Expat license, that requires copyright notices to be included
   in all copies or substantial portions of the software, and therefore
   somewhere, typically debian/copyright, in binary distributions.

If you are intersted, you are welcome to join this documentation effort that 
will
help Debian to better understand what is the minimal requirement for copyright
documentation.

Have a nice day,

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Re: License requiring to reproduce copyrights in binary distributions.

2009-07-01 Thread Francesco Poli
On Wed, 1 Jul 2009 23:57:28 +0900 Charles Plessy wrote:

 Dear all,
[...]
 I propose to make this list on the Debian wiki, and created a draft page:
 http://wiki.debian.org/CopyrightNotices

Could you please explicitly state (in the wiki page itself) the license
under which the wiki page is released?
Could you please do that quickly, before the number of contributors
becomes too large and re-licensing becomes a pain?

Suggested license for the wiki page: GNU GPL v2 or Expat license, as
you prefer.

I personally think that relying on implicit permission to modify on
wiki sites is a bad practice, that should be avoided whenever possible.

I hope this helps.

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Re: License requiring to reproduce copyrights in binary distributions.

2009-07-01 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Wed, Jul 01, 2009 at 07:03:03PM +0200, Francesco Poli a écrit :
 On Wed, 1 Jul 2009 23:57:28 +0900 Charles Plessy wrote:
  http://wiki.debian.org/CopyrightNotices
 
 Could you please explicitly state (in the wiki page itself) the license
 under which the wiki page is released?

All my contributions on this wiki can be treated as if they were in the public
domain, as stated on my personal page: http://wiki.debian.org/CharlesPlessy

For this page, since the discussion on the wiki relicensing has not beared
fruits yet, I would something permissive that would not hinder the work or our
wiki admins when they will sort licencing issues out. Also, since this page 
stems
from the impression that it is sometimes impractical to reproduce all copyright
statements, I would like to pick one that allows to not do so. I know that 
people
on this list object on license proliferation, but may I suggest the BOLA 
license,
that is a politically correct version of the WTFPL?

http://blitiri.com.ar/p/bola/

Have a nice day,

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Does the ISC license require to reproduce copyrights in debian/copyright ?

2009-07-01 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Wed, Jul 01, 2009 at 11:57:28PM +0900, Charles Plessy a écrit :
 
 It appeared in various discussions about either DEP5 or the NEW queue that
 licenses vary in their requirement for reproducing the authors copyrights in
 binary distributions. In order to start clarifying the situation, I propose to
 list for the most common licenses when they require to reproduce copyright
 statements. The final goal is to help packagers to keep the debian/copyright 
 file
 simple while respecting license terms.
 
 I propose to make this list on the Debian wiki, and created a draft page:
 http://wiki.debian.org/CopyrightNotices

Dear all,

let's start with the Internet Software Consortium license:

Copyright © 2004-2009 by Internet Systems Consortium, Inc. (ISC)
Copyright © 1995-2003 by Internet Software Consortium

Permission to use, copy, modify, and/or distribute this software for any
purpose with or without fee is hereby granted, provided that the above
copyright notice and this permission notice appear in all copies.

THE SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED AS IS AND ISC DISCLAIMS ALL WARRANTIES WITH 
REGARD
TO THIS SOFTWARE INCLUDING ALL IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND
FITNESS. IN NO EVENT SHALL ISC BE LIABLE FOR ANY SPECIAL, DIRECT, 
INDIRECT, OR
CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES OR ANY DAMAGES WHATSOEVER RESULTING FROM LOSS OF 
USE,
DATA OR PROFITS, WHETHER IN AN ACTION OF CONTRACT, NEGLIGENCE OR OTHER 
TORTIOUS
ACTION, ARISING OUT OF OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE USE OR PERFORMANCE OF 
THIS
SOFTWARE. 

(from ‘https://www.isc.org/software/license’)

Does this concern binary distribution: is a compiled version a “copy”? If yes,
it seems that the copyright notice should be reproduced in our binary packages,
typically in debian/copyright. But let's remember that in the case of works
distributed under the terms of the GPL, we consider that the binary packages
are only one piece of a bigger cake, that includes the source package. In that
case, the ISC license would also be satisfied if debian/copyright would not
contain the copyright notice. 

What is your opinion?

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