Re: Bug#681654: About kstars-data-extra-tycho2 distributability
tags 681654 - fixed-upstream thanks On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 07:33:38PM +0100, Noel David Torres Taño wrote: date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 10:52:43 +0200 from: HOTLINE-DU-CDS Non-Nominatif (UDS) cds-quest...@unistra.fr to: Noel David Torres Taño env...@rolamasao.org, HOTLINE-DU-CDS Non-Nominatif (UDS) cds-quest...@unistra.fr subject: Re: About Catalogues License Dear Noel Torres, here is the CDS policy for the scientific data we distribute: Catalogues available at CDS contain scientific data distributed for free, for a scientific usage. Companies including such data in their commercial products cannot charge their clients for the data. Furthermore, users must be informed of the origin of the data: this means an explicit reference to the service provided by the CDS and also to the original author(s) of each catalogue. IANAL, but this strikes me as DFSG, specifically section #6: 6. No Discrimination Against Fields of Endeavor The license must not restrict anyone from making use of the program in a specific field of endeavor. For example, it may not restrict the program from being used in a business, or from being used for genetic research. It seems to me this data should be removed from the package's source and that this is /not/ fixed upstream. A. -- Il faut tout un village pour élever un enfant. - Proverbe africain signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: About kstars-data-extra-tycho2 distributability
On Martes, 21 de agosto de 2012 02:55:43 Charles Plessy wrote: Le Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 07:54:05PM +0100, Noel David Torres Taño a écrit : On the package kstars-data-extra-tycho2 it has arisen a doubt about its distributability: See bug #681654 Dear Noel, sorry to discard the arguments you already gave in #681654, but have you considered asking for a clarification to one of the current mainstream distributors ? http://cdsarc.u-strasbg.fr/viz-bin/Cat?target=httpcat=I/259 Have a nice day, Hi Charles I thought I sent this before, but it seems that not. Regards Noel Torres er Envite ---BeginMessage--- Dear Noel Torres, here is the CDS policy for the scientific data we distribute: Catalogues available at CDS contain scientific data distributed for free, for a scientific usage. Companies including such data in their commercial products cannot charge their clients for the data. Furthermore, users must be informed of the origin of the data: this means an explicit reference to the service provided by the CDS and also to the original author(s) of each catalogue. Let us know if you need more information best regards, Caroline Bot, CDS Le Mardi 21 Août 2012 20:52 CEST, Noel David Torres Taño env...@rolamasao.org a écrit: Dear CDS team I want to package some data for informatic usage. The data are an extraction from the Tycho2 Catalogue. Data came originally from NASA ADC, and I saw at http://web.archive.org/web/20070303235508/http://adc.astro.umd.edu/adc/questions_feedback.html#policies that the policy for data coming fro there is Public Domain. But actually they are not online, and you are the main providers of the data. Could you please clarificate about the data License? I've searched your site and found nothing about that. Thanks in advance Noel Torres ---End Message--- signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: About kstars-data-extra-tycho2 distributability
Le Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 07:54:05PM +0100, Noel David Torres Taño a écrit : On the package kstars-data-extra-tycho2 it has arisen a doubt about its distributability: See bug #681654 On Martes, 21 de agosto de 2012 02:55:43 Charles Plessy wrote: sorry to discard the arguments you already gave in #681654, but have you considered asking for a clarification to one of the current mainstream distributors ? http://cdsarc.u-strasbg.fr/viz-bin/Cat?target=httpcat=I/259 Le Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 07:33:38PM +0100, Noel David Torres Taño a écrit : I thought I sent this before, but it seems that not. from: HOTLINE-DU-CDS Non-Nominatif (UDS) cds-quest...@unistra.fr subject: Re: About Catalogues License message-id: 31d-5035ef80-1b-53516180@99327283 Dear Noel Torres, here is the CDS policy for the scientific data we distribute: Catalogues available at CDS contain scientific data distributed for free, for a scientific usage. Companies including such data in their commercial products cannot charge their clients for the data. Furthermore, users must be informed of the origin of the data: this means an explicit reference to the service provided by the CDS and also to the original author(s) of each catalogue. Hi Noel, sorry that I did not find it by myself. The following parts of their answer is ambiguous. data distributed for free, for a scientific usage Does it mean that other usages, for instance commercial, artistic or military, are disallowed if downloading the data for free ? Companies including such data in their commercial products cannot charge their clients for the data. Does it mean that for-profit use is disallowed, or does it mean that, while one can charge for the software packages that redistributes and displays the data, the presence of the data can not be used as a justification in the price ? For that question in particular, the SIL open font license is an interesting example. It is Free according to Debian, but note the following clauses: 1) Neither the Font Software nor any of its individual components, in Original or Modified Versions, may be sold by itself. 2) Original or Modified Versions of the Font Software may be bundled, redistributed and/or sold with any software, provided that each copy contains the above copyright notice and this license. http://scripts.sil.org/cms/scripts/page.php?item_id=OFL_web It means that one can sell a software that contains the font, but one can not sell an isolated file that contains just the font. Perhaps this is what is meant for the data in the CDS above ? All in all, I think that you unfortunately need to ask for one more clarification. Have a nice day, -- Charles Plessy Tsurumi, Kanagawa, Japan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-legal-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120830235727.gb3...@falafel.plessy.net
About kstars-data-extra-tycho2 distributability
Hi Debian-Legal On the package kstars-data-extra-tycho2 it has arisen a doubt about its distributability: See bug #681654 I think there is no problem with data distributability, and just a minor issue with package's Copyright file which I think I fixed on 1.1r1-8 at http://mentors.debian.net/package/kstars-data-extra-tycho2 Please have a look at it. I'm willing to help with any further info or change to the package. Thanks in advance Noel Torres er Envite signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: About kstars-data-extra-tycho2 distributability
Le Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 07:54:05PM +0100, Noel David Torres Taño a écrit : On the package kstars-data-extra-tycho2 it has arisen a doubt about its distributability: See bug #681654 Dear Noel, sorry to discard the arguments you already gave in #681654, but have you considered asking for a clarification to one of the current mainstream distributors ? http://cdsarc.u-strasbg.fr/viz-bin/Cat?target=httpcat=I/259 Have a nice day, -- Charles Plessy Tsurumi, Kanagawa, Japan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-legal-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120821015543.ga11...@falafel.plessy.net
