FHS ambiguity: /usr/lib or /usr/share?

2002-11-14 Thread Dmitry Borodaenko
I can't come to agreement with Alicq upstream about where is a proper place to put Alicq optional modules (written in Tcl). FHS 2.1 contains self-contradictory recommendations on that issue: on one hand, .tcl files are arch-independent and thus belong to /usr/share, OTOH /usr/share is supposed to

Re: FHS ambiguity: /usr/lib or /usr/share?

2002-11-14 Thread Sven Luther
On Thu, Nov 14, 2002 at 12:21:59PM +0200, Dmitry Borodaenko wrote: I can't come to agreement with Alicq upstream about where is a proper place to put Alicq optional modules (written in Tcl). FHS 2.1 contains self-contradictory recommendations on that issue: on one hand, .tcl files are

Re: FHS ambiguity: /usr/lib or /usr/share?

2002-11-14 Thread Mark Howard
On Thu, 2002-11-14 at 10:21, Dmitry Borodaenko wrote: I can't come to agreement with Alicq upstream about where is a proper place to put Alicq optional modules (written in Tcl). FHS 2.1 contains self-contradictory recommendations on that issue: on one hand, .tcl files are arch-independent and

Re: FHS ambiguity: /usr/lib or /usr/share?

2002-11-14 Thread Dmitry Borodaenko
On Thu, Nov 14, 2002 at 11:55:08AM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: DB I can't come to agreement with Alicq upstream about where is a DB proper place to put Alicq optional modules (written in Tcl). FHS DB 2.1 contains self-contradictory recommendations on that issue: on DB one hand, .tcl files are

Re: What does dpkg-source mean with this?

2002-11-14 Thread Paul Cupis
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 14 November 2002 07:16, Karolina Lindqvist wrote: Wednesday 13 November 2002 12.18 skrev Paul Cupis: It should be called noteedit_2.0.16.orig.tar.gz, per the packaging manual. Meaning the only modification is to change the name?

Re: FHS ambiguity: /usr/lib or /usr/share?

2002-11-14 Thread Junichi Uekawa
Putting script libraries into /usr/lib does not break systems mounted in such manner, it only increases number of files that should be stored separately for each architecture. Yes, I was quite wondering that too, and people tend to disagree on that point, and some people tend to be walking

Re: FHS ambiguity: /usr/lib or /usr/share?

2002-11-14 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Nov 14, 2002 at 04:54:40PM +0200, Dmitry Borodaenko wrote: On Thu, Nov 14, 2002 at 02:25:15PM +, Mark Howard wrote: MH Java programs/libraries (arch independent bytecode) all go in MH /usr/share/java, as per policy. I guess your situation isn't all MH that different, so they

Re: FHS ambiguity: /usr/lib or /usr/share?

2002-11-14 Thread Dmitry Borodaenko
On Fri, Nov 15, 2002 at 12:07:45AM +0900, Junichi Uekawa wrote: JU Yes, I was quite wondering that too, and people tend to disagree on JU that point, and some people tend to be walking around filing RC JU bugs on this regard. RC bug would definitely be an overkill, I have shown that FHS is

Re: FHS ambiguity: /usr/lib or /usr/share?

2002-11-14 Thread Dmitry Borodaenko
On Thu, Nov 14, 2002 at 10:06:29AM -0600, Steve Langasek wrote: SL Tcl is Tcl, so I wouldn't follow its example for, well... anything. Except that Alicq is written entirely in Tcl, so I have to at least respect the choice made by other Tcl programs maintainers. SL I imagine python stores

php-gtk and php zendapi

2002-11-14 Thread Gaetano Paolone
I have a bug report against php-gtk: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=164619 The error occured when a new version of php was uploaded to unstable. The error is: Warning: php-gtk: Unable to initialize module Module compiled with debug=0, thread-safety=0 module API=20020429 PHP

In need of sponsor for Qtella

2002-11-14 Thread Brian Nelson
I'm adopting Qtella and I'm in need of a sponsor. It's a simple package with a tiny diff, available here: http://bignachos.com/~nelson/debian/ Thanks, Brian -- People said I was dumb, but I proved them! msg07865/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: What to do with wrong files from upstreams

2002-11-14 Thread Karolina Lindqvist
Wednesday 13 November 2002 22.30 skrev Roger Leigh: The `clean' rule is run before the build (by dpkg-buildpackage), so I would do find . -name '*.moc' | xargs rm -f to remove the .moc files. If they can easily be regenerated, I would ask upstream to remove them from the tarball (but I'm

Re: What does dpkg-source mean with this?

2002-11-14 Thread Karolina Lindqvist
Wednesday 13 November 2002 12.18 skrev Paul Cupis: It can be modified. It should be unchanged. Being unchanged has beneifts including but not limited to allowing users to verify the original tgz with upstream and clearly showing (in the diff.gz) what changes were made during packaging. If

FHS ambiguity: /usr/lib or /usr/share?

2002-11-14 Thread Dmitry Borodaenko
I can't come to agreement with Alicq upstream about where is a proper place to put Alicq optional modules (written in Tcl). FHS 2.1 contains self-contradictory recommendations on that issue: on one hand, .tcl files are arch-independent and thus belong to /usr/share, OTOH /usr/share is supposed to

Re: FHS ambiguity: /usr/lib or /usr/share?

2002-11-14 Thread Sven Luther
On Thu, Nov 14, 2002 at 12:21:59PM +0200, Dmitry Borodaenko wrote: I can't come to agreement with Alicq upstream about where is a proper place to put Alicq optional modules (written in Tcl). FHS 2.1 contains self-contradictory recommendations on that issue: on one hand, .tcl files are

Re: FHS ambiguity: /usr/lib or /usr/share?

2002-11-14 Thread Mark Howard
On Thu, 2002-11-14 at 10:21, Dmitry Borodaenko wrote: I can't come to agreement with Alicq upstream about where is a proper place to put Alicq optional modules (written in Tcl). FHS 2.1 contains self-contradictory recommendations on that issue: on one hand, .tcl files are arch-independent and

Re: FHS ambiguity: /usr/lib or /usr/share?

2002-11-14 Thread Dmitry Borodaenko
On Thu, Nov 14, 2002 at 11:55:08AM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: DB I can't come to agreement with Alicq upstream about where is a DB proper place to put Alicq optional modules (written in Tcl). FHS DB 2.1 contains self-contradictory recommendations on that issue: on DB one hand, .tcl files are

Re: What does dpkg-source mean with this?

2002-11-14 Thread Paul Cupis
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 14 November 2002 07:16, Karolina Lindqvist wrote: Wednesday 13 November 2002 12.18 skrev Paul Cupis: It should be called noteedit_2.0.16.orig.tar.gz, per the packaging manual. Meaning the only modification is to change the name?

Re: FHS ambiguity: /usr/lib or /usr/share?

2002-11-14 Thread Dmitry Borodaenko
On Thu, Nov 14, 2002 at 02:25:15PM +, Mark Howard wrote: MH Java programs/libraries (arch independent bytecode) all go in MH /usr/share/java, as per policy. I guess your situation isn't all MH that different, so they should go in /usr/share, IMHO. That shows that Debian interpreted

Re: FHS ambiguity: /usr/lib or /usr/share?

2002-11-14 Thread Junichi Uekawa
Putting script libraries into /usr/lib does not break systems mounted in such manner, it only increases number of files that should be stored separately for each architecture. Yes, I was quite wondering that too, and people tend to disagree on that point, and some people tend to be walking

Re: FHS ambiguity: /usr/lib or /usr/share?

2002-11-14 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Nov 14, 2002 at 04:54:40PM +0200, Dmitry Borodaenko wrote: On Thu, Nov 14, 2002 at 02:25:15PM +, Mark Howard wrote: MH Java programs/libraries (arch independent bytecode) all go in MH /usr/share/java, as per policy. I guess your situation isn't all MH that different, so they

Re: FHS ambiguity: /usr/lib or /usr/share?

2002-11-14 Thread Dmitry Borodaenko
On Fri, Nov 15, 2002 at 12:07:45AM +0900, Junichi Uekawa wrote: JU Yes, I was quite wondering that too, and people tend to disagree on JU that point, and some people tend to be walking around filing RC JU bugs on this regard. RC bug would definitely be an overkill, I have shown that FHS is

Re: FHS ambiguity: /usr/lib or /usr/share?

2002-11-14 Thread Dmitry Borodaenko
On Thu, Nov 14, 2002 at 10:06:29AM -0600, Steve Langasek wrote: SL Tcl is Tcl, so I wouldn't follow its example for, well... anything. Except that Alicq is written entirely in Tcl, so I have to at least respect the choice made by other Tcl programs maintainers. SL I imagine python stores

php-gtk and php zendapi

2002-11-14 Thread Gaetano Paolone
I have a bug report against php-gtk: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=164619 The error occured when a new version of php was uploaded to unstable. The error is: Warning: php-gtk: Unable to initialize module Module compiled with debug=0, thread-safety=0 module API=20020429 PHP