Re: Re: Testing Discourse for Debian

On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 09:33:27AM -0400, Dan Purgert wrote: [...] > > In-reply-to header of your mail, then ;-D > > Drat, didn't realize that didn't pull in :( ; sorry for the gaffe. ;-D > > Brought to you by some dinosaur > > I should be getting off your lawn then, right? :-) Had I a

Re: Re: Testing Discourse for Debian

On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 08:46:02AM -0400, Dan Purgert wrote: > On April 12, 2020, Russ Allbery wrote: > > [...] > > There is some age correlation with the type of communication mechanism > > one is comfortable with [...] > Who makes up the "younger" crowd? [...] > (Aside, apologies if this is

Re: [Summary] Discourse for Debian

On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 12:45:13PM +0100, Neil McGovern wrote: [...] > If there is sufficient pushback, I'll delete the instance, move on with > my life, and conclude that no one in Debian can possibly try and > innovate or do new things unless it is either: > * 100% optional for people, or > *

Re: tracking our readers? (Re: Testing Discourse for Debian - Moderation concepts)

On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 08:22:22AM +, Holger Levsen wrote: > On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 02:31:23PM -0700, Sean Whitton wrote: > > > The trust system gives me no trust at all. It is very closely bound to > > > participation over the web interface, monitors the reading frequency and > > > time > >

Re: Testing Discourse for Debian - Moderation concepts

On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 02:31:23PM -0700, Sean Whitton wrote: > Hello, > > On Mon 13 Apr 2020 at 10:33PM +02, Mathias Behrle wrote: > > > The trust system gives me no trust at all. It is very closely bound to > > participation over the web interface, monitors the reading frequency and > > time

Re: Testing Discourse for Debian - Moderation concepts

On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 09:33:20PM +, Andy Smith wrote: [...] > Not to speak for Neil, but it's generally argued that private > entities cannot censor, because a nation/state can tell you that you > cannot express an opinion using your own resources. By contrast a > private entity like

Re: Testing Discourse for Debian

On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 06:55:25AM +0100, Marcin Kulisz wrote: [Gigantic quote elided] > This is not true, and this email is proof of this What is "this", and then... what is "this"? And "this"? One of the nicest things in (nearly lost) mails and usenet culture is the right quoting style. If

Re: [BTB] Asking vs enforcing (was: [Summary] Discourse for Debian)

On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 11:07:04AM +0200, Pierre-Elliott Bécue wrote: [...] > As said, the weight I'm giving to my act is perfectly in the scope of > our delegation: we will act upon this should the matter persist. I have no qualms with you intervening here. I think before you intervended

Re: [Summary] Discourse for Debian

On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 10:39:31AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > writes: > > On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 12:45:13PM +0100, Neil McGovern wrote: > > >> If there is sufficient pushback, I'll delete the instance, move on with > >> my life, and conclude that no one in Debian can possibly try and > >>

Re: [BTB] Asking vs enforcing (was: [Summary] Discourse for Debian)

On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 08:37:48AM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: Scott, I think we both agree that the reaction to the apology was unnecessarily harsh, but this: > I feel like you are intentionally twisting my words, is not helping. > but I

Re: Testing Discourse for Debian - Moderation concepts

On Mon, May 04, 2020 at 05:47:16AM -0400, Dan Purgert wrote: > On May 03, 2020, Florian Weimer wrote: > > [...] > > What I find concerning is that Discourse (the web application) does > > not clearly communicate how it shares the data it collects about me > > with users. For example, it seems to

Re: [Summary] Discourse for Debian

On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 01:02:53PM -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > I sincerely apologize to anybody I offended. See (or don't see) below. [...] > I sincerely apologize! I never intended my comment to express any approval > of > Hitler or a comparison of systemd to Hitler. Happens. It's

Re: [Summary] Discourse for Debian

On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 10:18:46AM -0700, Felix Lechner wrote: > Hi, > > On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 10:06 AM wrote: > > > > To me, the idea of bringing up Hitler in a conversation is crazy / humorous, > > even though his actions are far from humorous. > > Was this message moderated? This author

Re: [Summary] Discourse for Debian

On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 03:49:56PM +, Holger Levsen wrote: > On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 10:22:29AM -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: [...] > > (2) maybe bringing systemd into a discussion is (should be considered) > > something just as disrepectful (harmful) as bringing Hitler into a > >

Re: Question about repositories

On Fri, Oct 23, 2020 at 04:52:34PM +0330, negin jafari wrote: > Dear sir or madam, > > I am a university Student trying to learn a lot of things about Debian. > I searched all the website about list of repositories but I could only find > the link below : > http://ftp.acc.umu.se/debian/

Re: [External] Re: ThinkPad laptops preinstalled Linux

On Wed, Jun 03, 2020 at 05:53:50PM +0200, Jonathan Carter wrote: > Hi Mark! [...] This is from the peanut gallery, from a simple Debian user. Thanks you both for this delightful exchange. This is one of the things why I love Debian -- running, BTW, on a thinkpad, which is an awesome machine,

Re: Spende via Banküberweisung

On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 04:28:06PM +0100, temp0...@posteo.de wrote: > Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, > > ich würde gerne etwas Geld an Debian spenden, möchte aber nicht Paypal > verwenden. Von "Software in the Public Interest" habe ich keine > Kontoverbindung und befürchte auch, dass auf dem Weg

Re: Add my CA cert in trusted certs

On Tue, Jun 15, 2021 at 08:42:02AM +0300, Миша wrote: > Hello! I would like you to add my certification authority in the list of > trusted certs What's this: an attempt at social engineering or a hoax? Cheers - t signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Debian and GG

On Thu, Apr 22, 2021 at 01:02:56AM +0500, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote: > On Wed, Apr 21, 2021 at 08:54:45PM +0200, Davide Prina wrote: > I would like to suggest to a) never suggest AGPL; AGPL is fine, for the purpose it was designed for. You just have to know what it does. > b) read what does AGPL

Re: 3 Blue 1 Brown

On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 10:54:32AM -0400, Khosro Pourkavoos wrote: > Good morning, > > *Grant Sanderson (3 Blue 1 Brown)* has released his amazing *mathematics > visualization* software Manim (on github). Can you please add it to the > *debian > repository,* so it can be installed using apt?

Re: [External] Re: Debian and fingerprint readers

On Sat, Mar 06, 2021 at 06:24:49PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: [...] > If it is instead installed by hardware detection (through > https://salsa.debian.org/installer-team/hw-detect), then it will be > installed on all systems that have a fingerprint reader (and which don't > have it disabled

Re: Abusive language on Debian lists

On Fri, Apr 09, 2021 at 06:22:57PM -0600, Eldon Koyle wrote: > I have noticed a pattern on Debian lists where we see: [...] > I would like to propose that we shorten this cycle by simply adding a rule > to bounce messages to public lists at #3 [...] The problem with this is... who is going to

Re: Debian should not engage in politics and stay neutral [was: This is not the direction that will lead to hearing each other]

On Fri, Apr 09, 2021 at 03:14:56PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > We just had a week of this on debian-vote. Can we please not have another > week of it on debian-project? [...] Thanks, Russ. A couple of folks shouting their strong opinions and not listening isn't going anywhere constructive.

Re: Abusive language on Debian lists

On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 06:08:23AM -0400, Sam Hartman wrote: [...] > But I think a blanket prohibition would be harmful: Yes, I think mutilating language could also miss the mark. That doesn't mean that I think language doesn't matter at all (I think it does, very much!), and sometimes marking

Re: Abusive language on Debian lists

On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 12:13:06PM +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > Dear Tomas, dear Debian community, [...] > I remember that at the recent KDE Academy meetups, I think the last two, > there has been some workshop about non-violent communication. > > Maybe it would be an

Re: Abusive language on Debian lists

On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 12:56:04AM -0600, Eldon Koyle wrote: [...] > Thank you for your thoughtful reply. > > I think I did a bad job of explaining. I'm talking about English words that > universally accepted as swearing. I have not seen this class of words used > constructively in lists, and

Re: Abusive language on Debian lists

On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 12:14:40PM -0600, Eldon Koyle wrote: > Preface: Some people may consider it petty to care about this. I am not > trying to be petty. I honestly feel sad and hurt every time I see this > language on these lists. The language over the last few weeks has me > feeling sick

Re: Rethink about who we (Debian) are in rapid dev cycle of deep learning

On Thu, Jan 13, 2022 at 10:07:05PM +0100, Davide Prina wrote: > On 13/01/22 01:00, M. Zhou wrote: > > > Cool and useful stuff keeps emerging -- e.g., Facial Authentication for > > Linux > >https://github.com/boltgolt/howdy > > note that EU (European Union) Privacy is managed by the GDPR

Re: Rethink about who we (Debian) are in rapid dev cycle of deep learning

On Sat, Jan 15, 2022 at 10:45:35AM +0100, Davide Prina wrote: > On 14/01/22 07:01, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: [...] > > That said, to have a workable face recognition, [...] you'll have to collect > > consent from all those face "providers". > > I think that is not so simple. The reply can be

Re: Questions around Justice and Our Current CoC procedures

On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 11:59:21PM +0100, Pierre-Elliott Bécue wrote: [...] > And, as I already told too in other mail threads that you are quite > efficient at interpreting what people wrote to you the worst possible > way [...] > Whether it's intentional or not, I'm still wondering, although

Re: Banning Norbert Preining from planet.d.o

On Tue, Mar 22, 2022 at 09:01:27PM +0100, Thomas Goirand wrote: > Hi, > > In his latest post, Norbert wrote: Please note that I am a total outsider, so take this for what it's worth. In my opinion it seems better to let it be. Granted, Norbert's behaviour comes across as resenful, which isn't

Re: Banning Norbert Preining from planet.d.o

On Thu, Mar 24, 2022 at 09:50:47AM +, Dr. Bas Wijnen wrote: [...] > On Wed, Mar 23, 2022 at 07:23:25AM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 22, 2022 at 09:01:27PM +0100, Thomas Goirand wrote: > > In my opinion it seems better to let it be [...] > I understand this impulse and in

Re: How about using moderation as a delay system for bad threads? (Re: A quiet reminder: please be considerate.)

On Sat, Mar 26, 2022 at 08:10:39AM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > Hello, > > Le Fri, Mar 25, 2022 at 11:54:02AM +, Steve McIntyre a écrit : > > On Fri, Mar 25, 2022 at 09:09:20AM +0100, Philip Hands wrote: > > > > > >Unless I've misunderstood completely, we do not judge the content of the > >

Re: Debian Update Cycle

On Thu, Mar 24, 2022 at 10:27:42PM +0100, phil995511 - wrote: > Hello, > > Don't you think it would be smart to integrate all the updates contained in > the Backports directory with each new minor update of our favorite OS ? For > example for the versions 11.3, 11.4, etc ? That's not the point

Re: Rethink about who we (Debian) are in rapid dev cycle of deep learning

On Fri, Jan 14, 2022 at 05:33:32PM +, Free unofficial Italian translation - FUIT wrote: > It may seem like a stupid question, but are there any open source programs > based on artificial intelligence for the recognition and forensic analysis of > the voice print? Wikipedia [1] is your

Re: Will nala be in software soon?

On Thu, Oct 12, 2023 at 02:19:37PM +0200, Dominik George wrote: > >Nala is a github project > > I do hope it is primarily a free software project, instead of its primary > identity being a GitHub promotion project. Microsoft is quickly succeeding in the conversion of software development into a

Re: Will nala be in software soon?

On Thu, Oct 12, 2023 at 02:55:22PM +0200, Diederik de Haas wrote: [...] > While I'd have liked to jump onto the parade to bash M$ GitHub, the project > is > actually hosted on GitLab ... Not a big fan of Gitlab either, but definitely much less painful. Cheers -- t signature.asc

Re: Debian upgrade services

On Tue, Aug 29, 2023 at 06:19:09AM +0200, Thabo Mokhutsoane wrote: > Hi, > > > I have debian 8 installed, and I want to know if you have upgrade services > . To get a rough idea, here [0] is a description on how to upgrade to Bookworm. But... STOP FIRST. You say you have Debian 8, which is

Re: We need to define a path for Debian to climate neutrality

On Fri, May 13, 2022 at 05:38:13PM +0200, Thomas Goirand wrote: > On 4/8/22 20:35, Julian Andres Klode wrote: > > Sponsors: When receiving sponsored resources like electricity, we > > should inquire about the carbon footprint of those resources, and > > what the sponsor's approach to environmental

Re: Can the Debian Project ever fall?

On Mon, Jun 06, 2022 at 09:55:40PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: > On Mon, Jun 06, 2022 at 09:37:27AM -0500, Shayan Akbar wrote: > > Hello Debian folks, > > > > As someone who depends on the Debian project a lot in my daily life, I > > cannot seem to let this idea go... Can the linux project fall?

Re: Can the Debian Project ever fall?

On Mon, Jun 06, 2022 at 05:07:50PM +0200, Geert Stappers wrote: > On Mon, Jun 06, 2022 at 09:37:27AM -0500, Shayan Akbar wrote: > > Hello Debian folks, > > > > As someone who depends on the Debian project a lot in my daily life, I > > cannot seem to let this idea go... Can the linux project fall?

Re: Chromium on Debian 11

On Sun, Apr 17, 2022 at 02:17:11PM +0200, phil995511 - wrote: [...] > My style is that of google translate...He is as he is... Perhaps you should fire your translator, then. He (?) is extremely unfriendly. Cheers -- t signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: We need to define a path for Debian to climate neutrality

On Fri, Apr 29, 2022 at 09:19:33AM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: > Am Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 10:20:16AM -0700 schrieb Russ Allbery: > > This also has the advantage that, whether or not the specific framing of > > this thread is inspiring to a given Debian contributor, everyone wants > > longer laptop

Re: The old refcard for Buster

On Thu, Apr 28, 2022 at 07:33:15PM +, Adrian Richard Adams, Ph.D. wrote: > Hi there, > > I would just like to ask something regarding the old version of the refcard > for Debian 10 (Buster). If I understood correctly, you are looking for the package debian-refcard in Buster, which is here:

Re: long-standing bugs and tar pits

On Fri, Sep 16, 2022 at 01:28:49PM -0400, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: > On 9/16/22 1:03 PM, Russ Allbery wrote: [...] > > It's okay, and even desirable, to give a chilly reception to people who > > approach free software projects with this level of persistent entitlement. > > So Chuck Zmudzinski is

Re: archive

On Wed, Jan 04, 2023 at 04:24:56PM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > On Wed, Jan 04, 2023 at 02:45:51PM +0200, to...@ukr.net wrote: > > Hi! I'm interested in a question about the archive/old versions [...] [...] > This does make it hard if you come across an old machine that hasn't been >

Re: Fortunes-off - do we need this as a package for Bookworm?

On Sun, Dec 18, 2022 at 04:07:25PM -0600, G. Branden Robinson wrote: > At 2022-12-17T19:02:11-, Marco d'Itri wrote: [...] > --snip-- > Another thing I find objectionable: exhibitionist etymological > offense-taking [...] > White-knighting can be, and often is, another form of tech-bro alpha

Re: Fortunes-off - do we need this as a package for Bookworm?

On Mon, Nov 21, 2022 at 02:25:10PM -0600, G. Branden Robinson wrote: > At 2022-11-21T07:58:29-0700, Sam Hartman wrote: [] > Thanks, Sam. (And Tomas, to whom I have an unfinished reply lingering > in my postponed folder.) Don't bother much. Other than Sam's, my message is not

Re: Fortunes-off - do we need this as a package for Bookworm?

On Mon, Nov 21, 2022 at 04:59:49PM -0500, The Wanderer wrote: [...] > I have never once interpreted them as promoting Nazi ideology. Rather, I > have always interpreted them as being a useful reminder of the sorts of > things that Nazis said and stood for [...] Context. I wouldn't ever have,

Re: Fortunes-off - do we need this as a package for Bookworm?

On Sun, Nov 20, 2022 at 07:58:38PM -0600, G. Branden Robinson wrote: > At 2022-11-20T23:55:52+, Steve McIntyre wrote: > > >As it was an NMU, this should be easily rectified. > > >Don't let cancel culture win. > > > > Are you volunteering to pick up the package and review its contents, > >

Re: Re: Consultation on license documents

On Fri, Mar 17, 2023 at 10:47:46PM -0600, Gunnar Wolf wrote: [...] > My first answer to this question was "/usr/share/doc/PKGNAME/copyright > is authoritative [...] > agree with Theodore Ts'o, who rightfully said: > > I am not a lawyer, and even if I were a lawyer, I am not *your* >

Re: Libc6 Usage Question

On Tue, Apr 25, 2023 at 06:29:11PM -0400, Alexis E wrote: > Dear Debian Mailing List, > I am working on a project which requires libc6. When I build this > project on my laptop, the project works fine as it builds for the libc6 on > my laptop, however, when I build it in Github actions, the

Re: Searching for specific Debian logo

On Mon, Jul 17, 2023 at 03:54:45AM -0400, Alex Taylor wrote: > Hello, > > I am searching for this specific Debian icon > > featured on the taskbar in qvwm

Re: debian image questions

On Sun, Aug 06, 2023 at 08:42:21AM -0400, Bill Miller wrote: > Just like that; > > When Apple makes a new OS or IOS I do not need to download anything. I go > to update, it will ask me if i am sure i want to install a new OS. it warns > me that all my stuff will be lost if i change my OS [...]

Re: Have we considered a codename 'rolling' for testing before?

On Sun, Feb 11, 2024 at 04:39:50PM +, Martin Stadtler wrote: > Hi All, > > I am certain this has come up in the past, but have we considered adding > the codename/label rolling to testing? I have looked through the mail > lists, with nothing jumping out recently. I know I am not the only

Re: Inquiry Regarding Data Differences Between JSON File and Webpage

On Wed, Dec 13, 2023 at 07:08:45PM +, YUNHE YANG wrote: > Dear Debian Security Team, > > My name is Yunhe Yang, and I am a Ph.D. student specializing in Computer > Security. I am writing to discuss some observations and questions about the > data on the Debian security tracker webpage and

Re: Suggestion for Debian 13: A Openbox enviornment that would work perfect in Debian

On Wed, Jan 17, 2024 at 11:33:19AM -0500, Louis-Philippe Véronneau wrote: [...] > I'm still an Openbox user and I like it very much. Sadly, Xorg is slowly > dying and I feel it's time to move on and start thinking of it as deprecated > software. I seriously hope X11 holds until I don't need

Re: Permission to distribute

On Thu, Apr 04, 2024 at 01:00:46AM -0700, John Lee wrote: > Hello Debian Team, > > I just wondered if I can sell computers that I build with Debian Linux > pre-installed. The computers may also include programs I create. I tried to > find the answer to this question but still unsure. That's the

Thank you

, Tomas trosos Tintera PS. I stay with you despite of the unpopular decisions. They tend to be trifling, as long as Debian stays democratic and software free. I appreciate your work. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact

Re: Systemd

, but AFAIK this has nothing to do with Debian: it is a decision of the individual upstream maintainers to depend on systemd. Nevertheless, Debian offers a way to keep systemd installed and still use sysvinit as the init process: just remove systemd-sysv and install sysvinit-core. Cheers, Tomas trosos