Re: The bug

2023-12-12 Thread John Crawley
On 13/12/2023 15:24, Geert Stappers wrote: An attempt to get beyond FUD |Debian Bug report logs - #1057967 |linux-image-6.1.0-15-amd64 renders my physical bookworm/gnome computer largely unusable version graph |Package: src:linux; Maintainer for src:linux is Debian Kernel Team ; |Affects:

Re: The bug (was: Is it safe to install Bookworm on a new machine now?)

2023-12-12 Thread Geert Stappers
On Wed, Dec 13, 2023 at 06:35:08AM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Tue, Dec 12, 2023 at 10:39:55PM -0600, David Wright wrote: > > On Tue 12 Dec 2023 at 23:05:49 (-0500), Stefan Monnier wrote: > > > > Well, the machine in question has a wi-fi but I don't plan on using it. > > > > Though unless

Re: The bug (was: Is it safe to install Bookworm on a new machine now?)

2023-12-12 Thread tomas
On Tue, Dec 12, 2023 at 10:39:55PM -0600, David Wright wrote: > On Tue 12 Dec 2023 at 23:05:49 (-0500), Stefan Monnier wrote: > > > Well, the machine in question has a wi-fi but I don't plan on using it. > > > Though unless I'm misunderstanding, just having a wi-fi (used or not) is > > > enough to

Re: The bug (was: Is it safe to install Bookworm on a new machine now?)

2023-12-12 Thread Gareth Evans
Can anyone please explain: 1. Why upgrades of stable into a potentially seriously compromised state were allowed to continue, twice, rather than pulling the upgrades? or... 2. Why the best temporary solution isn't to revert the kernel to the last known good version so

Re: The bug (was: Is it safe to install Bookworm on a new machine now?)

2023-12-12 Thread David Wright
On Tue 12 Dec 2023 at 23:05:49 (-0500), Stefan Monnier wrote: > > Well, the machine in question has a wi-fi but I don't plan on using it. > > Though unless I'm misunderstanding, just having a wi-fi (used or not) is > > enough to trigger the bug. Please correct me if I'm wrong. > > "the bug"? >

The bug (was: Is it safe to install Bookworm on a new machine now?)

2023-12-12 Thread Stefan Monnier
> Well, the machine in question has a wi-fi but I don't plan on using it. > Though unless I'm misunderstanding, just having a wi-fi (used or not) is > enough to trigger the bug. Please correct me if I'm wrong. "the bug"? What's this bug you're referring to? Stefan

Re: Is it safe to install Bookworm on a new machine now?

2023-12-12 Thread Rick Thomas
On Tue, Dec 12, 2023, at 6:22 PM, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, Dec 12, 2023 at 05:47:48PM -0800, Rick Thomas wrote: >> Is there a netinst iso that I can use to safely install Bookworm (stable) on >> a new PC? > > Well, with a netinst, the issue isn't what's on the netinst medium. It's >

Re: Is it safe to install Bookworm on a new machine now?

2023-12-12 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Dec 12, 2023 at 05:47:48PM -0800, Rick Thomas wrote: > Is there a netinst iso that I can use to safely install Bookworm (stable) on > a new PC? Well, with a netinst, the issue isn't what's on the netinst medium. It's what's on the Debian mirrors, which the installer will use for most of

Is it safe to install Bookworm on a new machine now?

2023-12-12 Thread Rick Thomas
Is there a netinst iso that I can use to safely install Bookworm (stable) on a new PC? If so, where can I download it from? If not, how much longer is it likely to be before one exists? Thanks! Rick

Re: Bug report

2023-12-12 Thread Dan Ritter
Iman Hajibagheri wrote: > Hello > My laptop model is asus zenbook duo ux481 and I installed ubuntu desktop > After installation, when I log in to my account for the first time, a > welcome to ubuntu tab appears. I click on the help improve ubuntu section. > My laptop stops after the yes option

Bug report

2023-12-12 Thread Iman Hajibagheri
Hello My laptop model is asus zenbook duo ux481 and I installed ubuntu desktop After installation, when I log in to my account for the first time, a welcome to ubuntu tab appears. I click on the help improve ubuntu section. My laptop stops after the yes option and the operating system crashes. I

Testing

2023-12-12 Thread Ricky Selvan
Debug report sending.

Bug

2023-12-12 Thread Ricky Selvan
Testing

Problem with Xfce4 Applications Menu

2023-12-12 Thread Stephen P. Molnar
I have just bumbled my way thorough reinstalling v 12.4.0 on my main Linux platform and have managed to mangle the Xfce4Applications Menu by somehow misusing MenuLibre. Some how the contents of some of the subdirectories have been shifted to an 'Other' subdirectory. My question is how do i

Re: Local time in databases (Re: ntpsec as server questions)

2023-12-12 Thread Max Nikulin
On 08/12/2023 11:38, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Thu, Dec 07, 2023 at 10:18:44PM -0600, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: All of these considerations are what brought Oracle to create a proprietary "datetime" datatype and use it to store all "real" dates/times. If you need a different format for display

Re: Scanner Brother DCP-J572DW

2023-12-12 Thread Jean-Marc
Le 12/12/23 à 13:29, ajh-valmer a écrit : "driverless" : intéressant, comment fait-on pour l'installer ? Merci. Comment fait-on pour l'installer ? On ne fait rien. J'ai acheté une imprimante Epson WF3640, je l'ai branchée avec un câble réseau sur mon modem-router (on peut le faire en Wi-Fi

Re: From which kernel should I upgrade my installed Debian to linux-image-6.1.0-15-amd64?

2023-12-12 Thread Stella Ashburne
Hi Greg > Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2023 at 2:43 AM > From: "Greg Wooledge" > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: From which kernel should I upgrade my installed Debian to > linux-image-6.1.0-15-amd64? > > On Mon, Dec 11, 2023 at 07:38:02PM +0100, Stella Ashburne wrote: > > Please

choisir son apt* et packager à l'arrache

2023-12-12 Thread Marc Chantreux
salut à tous, je passe un thread sur la liste parce que j'aimerais beaucoup avoir votre position (à jour) sur le sujet. il y a qq années, il semblait que apt était sensé devenir l'interface officielle des apt-tools sauf que * j'ai l'impression que c'est tjrs aussi mauvais comparé à aptitude *

Re: Scanner Brother DCP-J572DW

2023-12-12 Thread ajh-valmer
On Saturday 09 December 2023 13:13:59 Jean-Marc wrote: > Pareil. Imprimante+Scanner Epson que j'utilise depuis sa connexion > réseau en driverless. "driverless" : intéressant, comment fait-on pour l'installer ? Merci.

Re: Scanner Brother DCP-J572DW

2023-12-12 Thread Michel Verdier
Le 12 décembre 2023 Sébastien NOBILI a écrit : > L'imprimante est OK (mais elle l'était déjà en USB), quant au scanner > j'ai pu scanner quelques centimètres de page. Ça a pris de longues > minutes et s'est terminé par une SEGFAULT. Pour une epson qui est aussi donnée comme non fonctionnant sous

Re: File systems mounted under `/media/root/` ?

2023-12-12 Thread Max Nikulin
On 10/12/2023 23:38, Stefan Monnier wrote: Max Nikulin [2023-12-10 21:49:46] wrote: udisksctl dump udevadm info --query=all --name=sda for various hints related to udisks. Perhaps a better variant of udevadm options exists. Thanks. Now I have some thread on which to pull  I have

Re: On file systems

2023-12-12 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > Remember > Apple's "fat binaries", which contained a binary for 68K and another > for PowerPC? Those were made with "forks", which was Apple's variant > of "several streams in one file". And so on. The most extreme example i know is Solaris:

Re: Scanner Brother DCP-J572DW

2023-12-12 Thread Sébastien NOBILI
Bonjour, J'ai de nouveau essayé de faire fonctionner cet appareil. J'ai commencé par le débrancher de l'USB et désinstaller les drivers. Il a bien un support réseau mais n'a pas été détecté par le système (ni l'imprimante, ni le scanner). J'ai creusé quelques pistes du Wiki sans succès. J'ai

Re: Issues found in linux-image-6.1.0-15-amd64 6.1.66-1; was: From which kernel should I upgrade my installed Debian to linux-image-6.1.0-15-amd64?

2023-12-12 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 11 Dec 2023 21:45 -0700, from charlescur...@charlescurley.com (Charles Curley): > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1057967 And from the looks of that bug report thread, message #72 onwards, there is now a candidate fix.

DD dvdisaster Part III

2023-12-12 Thread Schwibinger Michael
Good morning Im sorry. It did not work. I did install dvdisaster GUI is very easy After 12 hours checking the DVD I gave up and the software did only show red and only 20% of the DVD were checked. Regards Sophie

Re: ⚠ No actualicéis a Debian 12.3 ⚠

2023-12-12 Thread Camaleón
El 2023-12-11 a las 20:42 +0100, Javier Silva escribió: > El lun, 11 dic 2023, 11:37, Camaleón escribió: > > > > https://www.debian.org/News/2023/2023120902 > > > > > > > > P.S. El asunto se inicia y finaliza con dos símbolos unicode con la > > > > señal de peligro (⚠) a ver cómo se renderiza