Re: [bullseye] Policykit

> "NG" == Nicolas George writes: NG> Try running /usr/lib/policykit-1/polkitd directly in a terminal. NG> Try running it directly in a terminal G_MESSAGES_DEBUG=all in the NG> environment. Thank you again. Going on inspecting, it was poor Dbus who somehow lost a vital link in /var and

[bullseye] Policykit

Hello, I have a problem with polkit-1. The program dies and the logs are not very useful: root@t65:~# systemctl restart polkit root@t65:~# systemctl status polkit ● polkit.service - Authorization Manager Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/polkit.service; static) Active: inactive

Re: what calculator do you use?

>>>>> "CC" == Charles Curley writes: CC> On Mon, 13 Jul 2020 09:51:53 +0200 "Gian Uberto Lauri" CC> wrote: >> Either my trusty old HP48 or Emacs Calc. Both RPN machines. CC> Or perhaps any one of several HP calculator emulators available on CC

Re: what calculator do you use?

> "kn" == kaye n writes: kn> Hello Friends, Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't see any kn> calculator app in my Debian os. What do you guys use? I'm having kn> trouble with Galculator. Thank you! Either my trusty old HP48 or Emacs Calc. Both RPN machines. -- /\ ___

Re: openjdk-8-jre for buster

> "BR" == Brad Rogers writes: BR> Not from Debian. See https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/openjdk-8 BR> Short version: It's been removed and (to me it looks like) won't BR> be back. Do they run IcedTea against the OpenJDK 11 ? -- /\ ___Ubuntu:

Re: A call to drop gnome

> "R" == Reco writes: R> That's very simplistic point of view. What about Wayland on R> non-x86, like ARM or MIPS (a hint - it does not work there, X R> does)? MIPS (Silicon Graphics), SPARC (Sun)... -- /\ ___Ubuntu: ancient

Re: A call to drop gnome

> "R" == Reco writes: >> Add one more reason to use X. R> My main reason to continue to use X in buster. I got used to my R> openbox setup. Same here. Switched to WindoMaker in 1996 because we had only 256 colors available and it could "render many color using a little number of elements

Re: A call to drop gnome

> "R" == Reco writes: R> As we saw two weeks ago, the decision to run GNOME on Wayland R> backfired at synaptic. To rephrase, why bother running X if there R> are no applications left to run on X? Because I like and I use a lot remote display. Because I prefer it user program. If you

Re: A call to drop gnome

> "AS" == Andy Smith writes: AS> Hello, On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 04:54:02PM +1000, Keith Bainbridge AS> wrote: >> I say this is NOT freedom. >> >> Of course new users accept the defaults on a fresh install - I >> guess that like me 20 years ago, they presume the defaults will >> work best.

Re: A call to drop gnome

> "R" == Reco writes: R> No. What I wrote that for several years you had the possibility to R> run GNOME on Wayland. And it will be the default in the next stable R> Debian. Because (and here you're correct) - upstream wants that R> everyone use the GNOME that way. As long as using X is

Re: text editors

> "NG" == Nicholas Geovanis writes: NG> In other words, lisp and prolog (and clojure and guile and NG> scheme) give the "feeling" that "elegant code" can be the best NG> software representation "in coding". Why? Because "the correctness NG> is almost blatant", as stated. In other words,

Re: text editors

> "DW" == David Wright writes: DW> I assume that you meant to write some derogatory verb at • or DW> else it got lost, as did your entire comment in the other two DW> versions I've received from you. I think that the original tale referred to their secretaries, and no, it was never meant

Re: text editors

>writes: >> I think also, but no one uses it except for emacs or some niche >> programming. > Do your reading before spewing nonsense: > https://leanpub.com/lisphackers/read > (and this is /only/ Common Lisp. There's Racket, Guile and the new Wilber likes Guile :) :) :) > kid on

Re: text editors

> "d" == deloptes writes: d> laughable as well - overblown text editor for what ... to write d> text files?! Give me a break, pls! To make them write the text files for you, when your work is that. -- /\ ___Ubuntu: ancient

Re: text editors

>>>>> "d" == deloptes writes: d> Gian Uberto Lauri wrote: EC> It's not. They are written in vimscript, analogous to elisp. >> >> Sorry not. While Elisp is a Lisp dialect, therefore is a language >> that has been formally proved to be equ

Re: text editors

> "EC" == Erik Christiansen writes: EC> Yes, yes, reflexive combativeness is jolly good fun, but EC> understanding is more useful in the long term. In my experience, if the language is elegant and wise, you can write your code "easily" and often you get better coding. EC> word used refers

Re: text editors

> "EC" == Erik Christiansen writes: EC> On 28.03.19 21:32, Matyáš Bobek wrote: >> I reckon writing vim extensions in C must be quite obscure... How >> is it done? EC> It's not. They are written in vimscript, analogous to elisp. Sorry not. While Elisp is a Lisp dialect, therefore is a

Re: text editors

>>>>> "d" == deloptes writes: d> Gian Uberto Lauri wrote: >> " It seems to me that there have been two really clean, consistent >> models of programming so far: the C model and the Lisp model. These >> two seem points of high ground, with swamp

Re: text editors

> "d" == deloptes writes: >> The trick with Emacs is doing as much things you can with one >> istance, avoding continual start and stops. d> Don't know! Really! Not all are as smart as you are. a> One can live and do everything without Emacs. Indeed. But will lose the fun :) -- /\

Re: text editors

> "EC" == Erik Christiansen writes: EC> When leading software development teams, I never asked team EC> members which editor they favoured, either at hiring interview, or EC> later. We just agreed on coding standards, and they configured EC> their editors to conform.  -- /\

Re: text editors

> "d" == deloptes writes: d> My personal choice is ne on debian. For everything else there are d> decent editors with GUI. My preference is eclipse and kate ... but d> it also doesn't matter. I simply can not find any logical or d> practical argument learning or using emacs ... and I work

Re: text editors

> "d" == deloptes writes: d> Pierre Fourès wrote: >>> So there are many nifty things in Emacs. But the real killer is >>> the integration of all those nifty things. >>> >> >> Wow, this gave me the desire to give a real serious try to Emacs ! d> Don't sell your soul to the devil

Re: text editors

> "d" == deloptes writes: d> John Hasler wrote: >> In fact, much of what we now know as Emacs *is* extensions written >> in Elisp and many more extensions are available.  You no more need >> to know Elisp to use them or to install additional ones than you >> need to know C to use Vim. d> I

Re: text editors

> "JH" == John Hasler writes: JH> In fact, much of what we now know as Emacs *is* extensions written JH> in Elisp and many more extensions are available. Emacs is written mostly in Elisp. What is not in lisp, AFAIK, is the interpreter and the most used and heavy functions. JH> You no more

Re: text editors

> "JH" == John Hasler writes: JH> deloptes writes: >> learning emacs means learning lisp JH> Not true. In my experience is true. But needs some more words. When you intensively start using Emacs, and you start asking to the editor "Oh, True One Editor, what is the meaning of this

Re: text editors

>>>>> "JH" == John Hasler writes: JH> Gian Uberto Lauri writes: >> But vim is an attempt to rewrite emacs the wrong way. JH> I don't think that's fair. I disagree. After all Editor MACroS was once a set of macros for an editor called TECO, while vim is an

Re: text editors

>writes: > imagine you're running your emacs (as a server) and want to edit > that one system file (say /etc/apt/sources.list) as sudo (without > starting an Emacs instance as root). I do not like sudo. In my NSHO it has a lot of hidden traps and is shipped in a way that [profanities].

Re: text editors

>>>>> "td" == tomas@tuxteam de writes: td> On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 11:07:58AM +, Gian Uberto Lauri wrote: >> >>>>> writes: td> To each its own, hey. As long as you don't sling profanities at me Unless you are sudo mantainer :) :) :) (an

Re: text editors

> "d" == deloptes writes: d> really, I did not know that you could be me and you knew my d> experience. Anyway emacs is not bad for those who know it, but it d> is impractical because you have mostly vim installed, so learning d> vim is a must indeed. Your words would be very different if

Re: text editors

> "TL" == Teemu Likonen writes: TL> $ emacs /ssh:user@middle-machine\|ssh:user@target-machine:file This is wickedly interesting! T H A N KY O U ! -- /\ ___Ubuntu: ancient /___/\_|_|\_|__|___Gian Uberto

Re: text editors

> "r" == rlharris writes: r> As well as being easy to use for general word processing, Emacs r> excels in the work of writing scripts, in which the r> "COMPOSE-A-NEW-MACRO-WHENEVER-YOU-NEED-IT;IT-TAKES-ONLY-A-FEW-SECONDS" r> ability of Emacs is invaluable. After all, the name Emacs is an

Re: text editors

>writes: > On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 07:51:53AM +0100, deloptes wrote: [...] >> Anyway emacs is not bad for those who know it, but it is >> impractical because you have mostly vim installed, so learning vim >> is a must indeed. > Eating roquefort is impractical because you gotta drink

Re: text editors

> "DP" == Dan Purgert writes: DP> John Hasler wrote: >> mick crane wrote: >>> there it is then, although I've so far managed to avoid Emacs >>> since heard it is more of an operating system than an editor. >> >> Teemu Likonen writes: >>> There are those who know Emacs, and there are those

Re: text editors

> "r" == rhkramer writes: r> XEMACS for a while and then maybe merged back into EMACS) and I think it is an independent developing of similar features. -- /\ ___Ubuntu: ancient /___/\_|_|\_|__|___Gian Uberto Lauri_ African

Re: Calculator with "tapes"

> "P" == Piotr writes: P> On Mon, 16 Jul 2018 12:57:58 -0400 Ken Heard P> wrote: >> Does Debian have a calculator package which has the equivalent of >> the tape produced by mechanical machines to show the entire >> calculation. I find such "tapes" essential when for example I am >>

Re: Recommended editor for novice programmers?

> "GH" == Gene Heskett writes: GH> On Wednesday 06 September 2017 04:16:36 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: >> On Wed, Sep 06, 2017 at 04:19:03PM +1000, Ben Finney wrote: >> >> [...] >> >> > To paraphrase someone else paraphrasing Voltaire: I may disagree >> > with your choice

Re: Recommended editor for novice programmers?

> "NB" == Nick Boyce writes: NB> I don't want to provoke any religious war here, and sorry if I NB> offend anybody, but: emacs is ridiculously heavy-weight, Indeed is larger than any other editor, but AFAIK is the only editor exposing the language it is implemented in.

Re: Why debian put ~/bin beginning of $PATH

> "慕冬" == 慕 冬亮 writes: 慕冬> User's command is usually stored in "/usr/local/bin". It should 慕冬> be placed before "/bin" in the $PATH. /usr/local is a directory hierarchy for binaries typical of the local installation and being, by default, owned by root, it is

Debian On a Lenovo P70

Did someone successfully install Debian on a Lenovo P70 portable workstation? Hid did (s)he manage to install GRUB? Sent from my iPhone

Re: Good keyboard

> "MR" == Martin Read writes: MR> On 14/03/16 00:23, David Niklas wrote: >> I was most particularly interested in weather the (clear), cherry >> key switches last. No one mentioned them. MR> Cherry make the explicit, measurable claim that their keyswitches MR> have a

post dis-upgrade troubles

Good morning everybody. I just did a dist-upgrade of my laptop to the latest debian stable, and now systemd should govern the machine. But whenever I choose the new tool the boot hangs on the binfmt.service, prevenmting the machine to become useful. The solution I use is to power-cycle and

Re: quality keyboards

Petter Adsen writes: > No, it doesn't. But it has 5 macro keys, intended to be used in > Windows games for sending series of keystrokes. Under Linux, they > simply send normal keycodes, but I believe the Windows drivers and > software do more than that. Once upon a long ago there was a

Re: quality keyboards

Petter Adsen writes: > On Mon, 31 Aug 2015 02:09:23 -0500 > rlhar...@oplink.net wrote: > > > On Sun, August 30, 2015 8:49 pm, Martin Read wrote: > > > Cherry still *are* (or at some point resumed) making mechanical > > > keyswitches with a rated life in the tens of millions, and the

Re: quality keyboards

Petter Adsen writes: > Have you seen the Apple keyboards? They have keys that are barely > raised from the keyboard itself, completely flat, and are AFAIK > wireless. Wired or wireless. Personally I still prefer a keyboard with Cherry switches. Should I get rich enough to buy a fully featured

Re: quality keyboards

Joel Rees writes: > > Say what? Since when does a keyboard need a firmware update? > > Hmm. Maybe the USB controller stuff, but still, ... Nope. Check the item before engaging the fingers :). These keyboard have some on board controller that is responsible to controlling the color of each

Re: Adapter Names on Stretch

Eike Lantzsch writes: must not try to steer. But I'd say that in this case the change of an interface name from one release to the other is at worst a slight inconvenience which I easily accept for the better big picture of predictable Even when I had to use machine with multiple

Re: BASH

Gokan Atmaca writes: Hello Parameterized with BASH I want to write a script. For example: I want to put parameters such as ./script.sh --dic --file. How can I do this? Use the getopts command (a bash builtin command). Documented in man bash. -- /\ ___

Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

Bret Busby writes: 00.01.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices (AMD nee ATI Device 9852 Type xrandr. You should have one entry for each possible connector. I.E. saint@quigley:~ 12:22:39 [9] $xrandr Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 2390 x 768, maximum 8192 x 8192 LVDS1

Re: Linux based cellphones?

Karen Lewellen writes: I did not mean destros. I meant actually put into hardware and sold devices. Thanks again for all the answers. Has Golden Delicious be suggested? They sell a board GTA04 that fits in the original openmoko case. http://www.goldelico.com/wiki.php?page=Products -- /\

Re: Have I been hacked?

mrr writes: Well obscurity may help, think about the man who loose his car key somewhere in an obscure place but will begin looking for it where there is some light because it's easier to see around! Think about the man that comes to steal. He carries a light/night visor with him. Said

Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

Joel Rees writes: On Sat, Dec 13, 2014 at 7:37 PM, Elimar Riesebieter riese...@lxtec.de wrote: shutdown(8) -F Force fsck on reboot. Sshhh. Don't remind us to read the man pages. By the way the -F flag causes /forcefsck to appear -- /\ ___

Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

Jerry Stuckle writes: This means fsck will never run because I don't use the laptop outside of those times. Plan to use it outside of these times as a maintenance call. Or check the discussion for a nice suggestion to make the fsck on max mount or time exceeded work to do what you want and

Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

Christian Groessler writes: ^C could be unresponsive nevertheless, the process being stuck in kernel space and thus completely oblivious of the signals thrown at it. This would be a different problem hinting at a kernel bug... Non necessarily a bug. We have to accept that exist

RE: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

Bonno Bloksma writes: Ok, so that means anyone with a nice laptop who wants to do some work just before boarding a plane is now at risk. Just before boarding some plane is the bad time and place for some work. Just had to help someone this morning who had Windows 7 doing updates when

Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

Stefan Monnier writes: users equally well. If it does, the relevance of having a ^C at boot time for stopping an fsck might be open to examination. The issue goes beyond fsck. It's important to be able to interrupt various long-running operations (typically waiting for an event)

Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

Atomic in the original word meaning can't be cut, and stopping is a form of cutting. Rolling back is a strategy to permit stopping an atomic operation, but I am unsure thi can be done always. -- Gian Uberto Lauri Messaggio inviato da un tablet On 11/dic/2014, at 17:42, Stefan Monnier monn

Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

Frédéric Marchal writes: Le Wednesday 10 December 2014 08:05:49, tv.deb...@googlemail.com a écrit : On 10/12/2014 09:30, Frédéric Marchal wrote: Le Tuesday 09 December 2014 16:36:53, The Wanderer a écrit : On 12/09/2014 at 10:09 AM, Chris Bannister wrote: On Tue, Dec 09, 2014 at

Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

Frédéric Marchal writes: Usually on shutdown you run sync that flushes the cache to the disk, cleanly preparing the disk for unmounting. The mount command should 'run' sync automatically when unmounting. You run fsck on power up because the 'system does not remember' if it was

Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI writes: On Wed, 10 Dec 2014 09:49:51 +0100 Gian Uberto Lauri sa...@eng.it wrote: fsck may take time. Relax, it needs that time. What if I do not have that time, Find it (this includes planning - of infrastructure and procedures if required). No other choices

Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

Christian Groessler writes: To get the machine to boot again, I had to enter the BIOS, disable the network card there, Hmmm... you could have tried with a single user mode bootstrap, that could have avoided you going to the BIOS. Quite a dance instead of just typing ^C ^C could be

Re: Joey Hess is out?

Eduard Bloch writes: That's not my impression. It's more like: if you don't like systemd, don't use it. If I am left free of doing it, there is no problem, Debian does not force me to use any desktop environment at all, and that pleases me much, so if I am left free to use an older, tested

Re: Joey Hess is out?

Martin Read writes: Administrators of systemd-based systems who wish to turn off the binary log can, of course, simply add the line Storage=none Happy to hear that Debian configuration is now sane. -- /\ ___Ubuntu: ancient

Re: Challenge to you: Voice your concerns regarding systemd upstream

Reco writes: Hi. On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 11:28:55AM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: Header files are arch-agnostic, it's the .la files that case all the trouble. I'm afraid that's not always the case. I've encountered specific cases where the headers are different between

Re: Let's have a vote!

Miles Fidelman writes: What difference does it make? Is there some sort of social contract you need to sign which forbids you to mention any disadvantages Debian might have and only allows you to praise its advantages? No, but there is some sort of social contract that says that

Re: View on UNIX purism in Linux Community

John Hasler writes: Lisi writes: It is a complete misunderstanding (misinformation?) that [the countries that constitute the UK] are merely States It is a complete misunderstanding that the states that constitute the USA are merely provinces. and none of them comes in .deb . --

Re: View on UNIX purism in Linux Community

Steve Litt writes: On Tue, 16 Sep 2014 18:20:46 +0200 Gian Uberto Lauri sa...@eng.it wrote: Often in the past young people arrived screaming We have the great new thing that will change all, and a lot of great new things were lost in time like tears in rain... Let's

Re: View on UNIX purism in Linux Community

Joel Rees writes: Steve's working on alternatives to debian+systemd.* and I'm trying to figure out what useful function systemd and friends really perform so that we can make something that the developers can use instead. Steve seems to be having more success than I. Nice to read this!

Re: View on UNIX purism in Linux Community

Chris Bannister writes: On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 06:20:46PM +0200, Gian Uberto Lauri wrote: Often in the past young people arrived screaming We have the great new thing that will change all, and a lot of great new things were lost in time like tears in rain... Ummm, what has

Re: View on UNIX purism in Linux Community

Curt writes: On 2014-09-17, Gian Uberto Lauri sa...@eng.it wrote: Ummm, what has the Macintosh got to do with this? :) Nothing. I was talking about GNU/Linux. I think that was humor (smiley). Really? I did not see any. I was going to ask you what the whole the thing

Re: View on UNIX purism in Linux Community

Curt writes: Still can't see the humor. Maybe you guys have something strong to share... Merely a cinematic reference. My error, they told me! Never argue... -- /\ ___Ubuntu: ancient /___/\_|_|\_|__|___Gian Uberto Lauri_

Re: View on UNIX purism in Linux Community

Lisi Reisz writes: Sorry Gian Uberto Lauri, this is an international list, but it is also an English speaking one. Native speakers will occasionally stray into humour which is not obvious to all nationalities. I knew I should have not opened this e-mail according to the Never argue

Re: View on UNIX purism in Linux Community

On 09/15/2014 03:31 AM, sa...@eng.it wrote: Bartosz Olender writes: Therefore I want to poke my three cents into this discussion reminding that GNU is *Not* Unix May I recall that most of the systemd-haters knows the recursive expansion of GNU? Most of us are no

Re: View on UNIX purism in Linux Community

Doug writes: On 09/16/2014 03:00 AM, Gian Uberto Lauri wrote: And the GNU project started in 1984, so in the early '90 we already were working on bash an gcc and start enjoying the GNU version of some command in an improved Unix experience. AH! You said it yourself

Re: Domanda su systemd

Joel Rees writes: Heh. Some advantages to using Google mail in a web browser with javascript (ick) enabled. Sorry. Macro malfunction in Emacs and address manually retyped. Blame the macro for the malfunction, the address error... PEBCAK! -- /\ ___

Re: Domanda su systemd

Joel Rees writes: 2014/08/29 21:21 Gian Uberto Lauri sa...@eng.it: Joel Rees writes: Heh. Some advantages to using Google mail in a web browser with javascript (ick) enabled. Sorry. Macro malfunction in Emacs and address manually retyped. Blame the macro

Re: Domanda su systemd

Davide Prina writes: On 27/08/2014 16:35, Gian Uberto Lauri wrote: Posso dire una cosa? Il processo che gestisce l'avvio di un sistema che dipende da un file in /usr? forse perché systemd può essere usato come sostituto di init.d eseguito come system o, altrimenti, come user Ma

Re: Domanda su systemd

Davide Prina writes: On 27/08/2014 16:35, Gian Uberto Lauri wrote: Posso dire una cosa? Il processo che gestisce l'avvio di un sistema che dipende da un file in /usr? http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/separate-usr-is-broken/ Freedesktop.org is broken. Ma da anni. Ma ci

Re: Domanda su systemd

emmanuel segura writes: Ciao a tutti, Aggiungo qualcosa anchio, anche se penso che il mio contributo non sara molto utile, comunque leggendo il link che stato postato prima, nel quale si parla del fatto che si possono avere problemi, non usando la /usr su una partizione separata,

Re: Domanda su systemd

Sorry, address error. -- Gian Uberto Lauri Messaggio inviato da un tablet On 29/ago/2014, at 02:06, Doug dmcgarr...@optonline.net wrote: On 08/28/2014 06:49 AM, Gian Uberto Lauri wrote: emmanuel segura writes: Ciao a tutti, Aggiungo qualcosa anchio, anche se penso che il mio

Re: enabling remote X Window sessions

John Hasler writes: Kevin writes: Thanks for the comment, Nuno. I only want to run a single X client, so XDMCP is not the way to go. My problem is solely getting Xorg to start on Debian without the -nolisten tcp argument. Then why not just use ssh?

Re: enabling remote X Window sessions

Reco writes: Hi. On Fri, 22 Aug 2014 08:10:45 -0500 Buchs, Kevin J. buchs.ke...@mayo.edu wrote: Thanks for the comment, Nuno. I only want to run a single X client, so XDMCP is not the way to go. My problem is solely getting Xorg to start on Debian without the -nolisten tcp

Re: enabling remote X Window sessions

Buchs, Kevin J. writes: Marc (and Gian hinted at) mentioned that /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc has the -nolisten tcp in it. This was as he said. However, editing the file did not stop Xorg from getting started with the very same parameter. It must be buried in another place, I fear,

Re: enabling remote X Window sessions

R == Reco recovery...@gmail.com writes: R On Fri, 22 Aug 2014 16:34:04 +0200 Gian Uberto Lauri R sa...@eng.it wrote: Reco writes: Running a single application remotely is hardly a justification to running main Xorg in insecure mode. If you know what you do you can set up things whith

Re: Irony

, and if many replies - yours included - were not trolling, they were goblining. -- Gian Uberto Lauri Messaggio inviato da un tablet On 10/ago/2014, at 21:40, Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: On Sunday 10 August 2014 18:53:58 Doug wrote: Unless Debian is different from most Linux distros

Re: HTML5 = png or HTML5 = jpg.

p == peter pe...@easthope.ca writes: p Is there a software which can convert an HTML5 page to a pixel map? p Conversion should apply on text, tables, images and SVGs, all p allowed in HTML5. p rsvg restricts the source to SVG. What I want is similar to a p screen grab of iceweasel. But invoked

Re: fastest linux distro

AFAIK WindowMaker can be part o a GNUStep DE. I started using it for the reduced colormap (useful with 256 colors), but now I am addicted to its rainbow patterns :D -- Gian Uberto Lauri Messaggio inviato da un tablet On 30/mag/2014, at 20:09, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote

Re: fastest linux distro

David Dušanić writes: Ok, we have to be even more correct on this, even JWM is just a window manager. One may agree with the precision of your classification. Or the same one may increase confusion by (rightfully) asserting that depending on user skills and habits, a WM and shell may be all

Problems using the installation CD [Was: Re: Confusion]

josh writes: Worse, almost every entry in those lists refers to attempting to perform some complex technical activity, usually with a root terminal, and is studded with abstruse technical terms. Foreword: Sorry, computers are complex machine, it was so when Linus Thorvalds started working

Re: Systemd

with dependecy based boot). Systemd could give better performance, like computer controlled I.C. engines. But as with computer controlled engines, some of those who were able to tinker with the boot process will lose this 'feature' (freedom?), maybe without any noticeable benefit. -- Gian Uberto Lauri

Re: Systemd

Curt writes: On 2014-04-25, Ralf Mardorf info.mard...@rocketmail.com wrote: For example, to correct idling mixture there under the hood was a screw on the carburetor, nowadays there's a connector for a computer inside the driver's cab. Assumed your car strikes in the middle of the

Re: Ad-Hoc Configuration

Anubhav Yadav writes: On Sat, Apr 19, 2014 at 10:11 PM, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: I have given up to get a working ad-hoc on my Linux PC to have Internet access for an iPad. I am going to make you happy then. I am using an adhoc connection successfully on my

Re: Wayland in Debian

Ric Moore writes: Is it the answer to a prayer regarding older laptops with shoddy displays when running X? I was perfectly happy with X11 on my P133 and on a brick-thick Hyunday laptop of the late 90's, how old are these laptop? If I should bet, I would bet on the No as the answer to your

Re: Skype - no microphone input sound...

Man_Without_Clue writes: No clue, absolutely no clue... Sometimes I find that Debian mutes my mic for security purposes. It's possible that other application, being aware of this, re-enable the microphone automatically, while Skype does not. -- /\ ___

Re: is there a risk to program in java since sun is bought by oracle

The only problem with Java is that it is a bit old for current architectures. There are better languages that run on the JVM (Clojure and Scala to name two). -- Gian Uberto Lauri Messaggio inviato da un tablet On 09/apr/2014, at 22:31, abdelkader belahcene abelahc...@gmail.com wrote

Re: is there a risk to program in java since sun is bought by oracle

shawn wilson writes: The problems with java come from allowing untrusted compiled code to run natively on your machine (WebStart). I think that this problem arises with EVERY and EACH programming language. You trust Debian software packages because you trust Debian, not because of the

Re: is there a risk to program in java since sun is bought by oracle

abdelkader belahcene writes: Sorry, may be my question is not clear, I mean : what will be happen if oracle decides to close the software ??? We will use OpenJDK. same reason for what libreoffice ( instead of openoffice ) and Mariadb ( instead of mysql) are created !!! am I

Re: Cropping a large collection of .PNG screenshots

Kevin O'Gorman writes: I have a few hundred screen shots I want to put on a web page, but they are all full-screen and I want to crop to the real contents. This is an identical region in all cases. So I want to script it. If it's really the identical region of the screen I wold consider

Re: emacs development?

Sharon Kimble writes: Has anyone got an url for the testing/development branch of emacs please, as I've been unable to find one? Ἐν ἀρχῇ ἦν τὁ λάμβδα, καὶ τὁ λάμβδα ἦν πρὸς τὸν Ἤμακα, καὶ Ἦμαξ ἦν τὁ λάμβδα. What about the repository of the True One Editor, http://savannah.gnu.org ?

Re: Security Implications of running startx from command line - was Re: Startx: was Great Debian experience

Andrei POPESCU writes: 3. any user, with or without root access, who doesn't lock his workstation as needed[1] deserves his fate. And does not uses startx; exit You can access the console X was started from even when the machine is locked. -- /\ ___

Re: Security Implications of running startx from command line - was Re: Startx: was Great Debian experience

berenger.mo...@neutralite.org writes: Can't ~/.xinitrc force startx to logout? H, maybe if you start x with . xinitrc . Would you forgive me if I don't do the test right now and continue to do the work I am paid for :) ? -- /\ ___Ubuntu:

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