Re: Cindex

https://www.opencindex.com/about-cindex/ -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: youtube-dl blocked?

to date with the original project. . yt-dlp is a small command-line program to download videos from YouTube.com and other sites that don't provide direct links to the videos served. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: What use can i give to linux?

. Linux has a large and growing share of the automotive market. Your router almost certainly runs Linux. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: making Debian secure by default

ted by one overworked guy who is taking patches from random strangers. NOTE: this is just a suggestion. I don't claim to be any sort of security expert nor am I trying to tell anyone what to do. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: making Debian secure by default

Joe writes: > I think this was amply demonstrated by Heartbleed, where the offending > code was examined by *one* other pair of eyes, before approval was > granted for inclusion in OpenSSL. The "many eyes" phase comes after release. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: Root password strength

nes I use most often through use. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: Root password strength

word which you used to log on to the VAX via the VT100 in your cubicle. People would stick a slip of paper with their password on it under the keyboard where the janitor could get at it. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: Root password strength

Pierre-Elliott Bécue writes: > Writing down a password is a bad idea. Why? -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: Root password strength

Use one of the password generating programs such as pwgen to produce a 12 character random password. Write it down. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: Root password strength

Pierre-Elliott Bécue writes: > A phrase you will easily remember but that would be hardcore to guess > through social engineering is perfect. Better is a random string that you write down. When people try to generate phrases that meet those requirements they usually fail. -- John Has

Re: strange time problem with bullseye

Look at the chronyd settime command and the chrony.conf makestep directive. These are intended for your situation. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: debian-devel wishlist "bugs"

https://wiki.debian.org/RFP -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: medically smart watches

cols. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluetooth -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: medically smart watches

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noninvasive_glucose_monitor -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: How can we change the keyboard layout?

Greg writes: > To "change the keyboard layout" could mean either to select a > different layout, or to modify an existing layout. In fact, I think > *most* people would assume the former. I think the possibility of *altering* the keyboard layout would not even occur to mos

Re: Copy from Firefox and paste into Terminal with Vim

My .vimrc contains syntax on set mouse-=a And pasting works. VIM - Vi IMproved 9.0 (2022 Jun 28, compiled Nov 20 2023 16:05:25) Included patches: 1-2116 -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: chrony date months off

Max Nikulin wrote: > I think, the problem is no RTC on some *pi board, certainly chrony out of > box setup is not ready to such environment and its solution is not > maxstep. That's what makestep (initstepslew now being deprecated) is for. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: chrony date months off

Gene writes: > How do I setup /etc/chrony/chrony.conf so it slams the system clock to > the current time on the first cycle as its rebooting? initstepslew man chrony.conf -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: in an object oriented world

random objects to be created that > are not verified and vetted then there are no viruses. Then there is no need for your verification process. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: in an object oriented world

. Why should she believe it? > any process which does not respond should be thus cast into the outer > darkness of the bits and never to return (aka a virus or unauthorized > program). Malware can lie. A virus can infect an authorized program and use its credentials. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: I've an editable .pdf form I need to fill out

s a 403 because google > doesn't know WTH to do with localhost... I just tried that. No hijacking: works fine. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: I've an editable .pdf form I need to fill out

Greg Wooledge writes: > Chrome does not "hijack port 80". You can go to http://localhost:80/ > to talk to a local web server *just fine* in Chrome. And in Chromium. And in Firefox or Lynx when Chromium is running. Nothing's being hijacked. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: I've an editable .pdf form I need to fill out

Klaus writes: > Did you notice, that I was talking about the reduced, crippled OpenSource > browser: chromium In what way is it crippled? -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: counting commas

Roy J. Tellason writes: > Where does that leave those of us that wrote c for CP/M? I wrote: > Or for MTS? Gene writes: > That, i've not heard of John, please expand. Michigan Terminal System. A multi-user OS running on the Amdahl 470V/6 at the University of Michigan. -- John

Re: counting commas

Roy J. Tellason writes: > Where does that leave those of us that wrote c for CP/M? Or for MTS? -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: counting commas

both > languages, I think Perl is a much better choice than C for string > processing. Use SPITBOL. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: No Release file for Security Update

flags: qr rd ra ad; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 1 ;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION: ; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 512 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;security-debian.org. IN A ;; ANSWER SECTION: security-debian.org.3600IN A 57.128.81.193 ;; Query time: 284 m

Re: No Release file for Security Update

Host gives me the same result. However, apt says: 0% [Connecting to security-debian.org (57.128.81.193)] and times out. Using "nameserver 8.8.8.8" changes nothing. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: No Release file for Security Update

Thomas George wrote: > I typed the above line exactly. apt-get update searches for > security.debian.org:80 [57.128.81.193] and times out, no connection Gene writes: > And that is not the address I get from here It's the one I get from here, and it times out. My DNS is working. -- Jo

Re: How to prevent rtkit from giving firefox higher priority?

and I think that this is the sort of stuff it is supposed to be for. Worth investigating. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: How to prevent rtkit from giving firefox higher priority?

You may be able to prevent Firefox from getting increased priority by using polkit. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough" Printing

org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: Temporary failure in name resolution

rg/doc/html/rfc8375 -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: Donate money

t like PayPal either but you won't find any way to do international transactions without dealing with obnoxious regulations. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: Donate money

entity not currently > approved of by American foreign policy preference. The "know your customer" regulations are by no means a US-only phenomena. It's supposed to prevent "money laundering". -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: systemd-timesyncd

fected or malicious Web site. Quit using Google search. Use DuckDuckGo. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: SOLVED FOR GENE:Re: was: Re: tzdata-legacy [was: Re: systemd and timezone]

Try manpages.org . -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: was: Re: tzdata-legacy [was: Re: systemd and timezone]

t;. man chrony.conf -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: Content of /etc/ethers

ata file is very often /etc/ethers, but this is not official. If no filename is specified /etc/ethers is used as default. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: URLs in Mutt

Greg Wooledge: > It's been my experience that the hyperlinks I'm meant to click are so > long that they wrap around the terminal width multiple times. This > makes copy/pasting them tedious at best, and even then it still > sometimes fails for me. My wife has the same problem. -- Jo

Re: difference in seconds between two formatted dates ...

Jeff writes: > I don't know why Z was used instead of UTC or GMT. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coordinated_Universal_Time#Time_zones -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: wireless broadband providers exist

fect your decision to use Yahoo or Hotmail for your > email service. Better to use a fee for service email provider such as Fastmail. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: wireless broadband providers exist

can deny a wireless provider the use of any city-owned land, but they cannot regulate radio transmission or reception. That is the exclusive jurisdiction of the FCC. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: lists

pocket writes: > I never implied that, only that the ISP services are spectrum only in the > area I live. No Starlik? In any case what ISP you use is unrelated to what email provider you use. I use pobox.com, but there are others. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: Debian 12.4.0

Cindy Sue Causey writes: > I abhor having to type into the console. Apparently I "slur" my > keystrokes while the system has a pretty fast keystroke repeat going. man kbdrate -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: IMPORTANT: do NOT upgrade to new stable point release

Andy writes: > This fails with leap seconds, potentially, and also TAI astronomical > time seems to be its own animal. TAI isn't good enough for the astronomers. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrestrial_Time -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: ToG Linux (first draft of a RFC) ...

Greg writes: > Is he simply talking about sneakernet? A human administrator, whom I > imagine to be the "god" in this scenario, walks around and room and > types things on each computer as needed? Carrying removable media around. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: ToG Linux (first draft of a RFC) ...

low network by mailing removable media around. In the early days Australia was on Usenet by way of airmailed taps. Then there's https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2549. Though consider: the earliest computer viruses were transmitted by floppy disk... -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: Image handling in mutt

Greg writes: > cc(1) and make(1) would like to have a talk with you. Those are applications and can do whatever they want. The OS does not care about extensions. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: Hardware TOTP on Linux

ling to sell me a replacement circuit board for most of the price of the phone. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: Hardware TOTP on Linux

t make phone calls. > Their website [1] states: "Beta Edition PinePhones are aimed solely at > early adopters. More specifically, only intend for these units to find > their way into the hands of users with extensive Linux experience." I have extensive Linux experience. -- John Ha

Re: Could not find interfaces configuration file /etc/network/interfaces in Debian Linux 11 (bullseye)

Mr. Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming writes: > You managed to install OpenWRT on an Ubiquiti router? Yes. It was quite straightforward. Instructions on the OpenWRT site. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: Hardware TOTP on Linux

Piotr writes: > Pinephone tick this box. It works quite well, for early development > Linux phone. No support when it doesn't, though. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: debian forgot usr pw

Gene writes: > AND (horrors) have written it down. That's the right thing to do. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: debian forgot usr pw

Greg writes: > And you should either *use* it once in a while, so you don't forget > what it is, or else make it the same as your regular account's > password. Write the damn thing down. The world won't end. -- John "Write all your passwords down. It isn't 1980 anymore." Hasler

Re: Could not find interfaces configuration file /etc/network/interfaces in Debian Linux 11 (bullseye)

Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote: > UDM Pro runs Debian 11 (bullseye) I have a Ubiquiti router. Before I installed OpenWRT I explored the OS. It uses packages from Bullseye but it is certainly not Debian. You couldn't find that file because it isn't there. -- John Hasler

Re: ntpsec as server questions

l time. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: Found a liar

Why did you install zsh and then immediately remove it? -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: ntpsec as server questions

lay. It says nothing about the hardware clock. Try hwclock -l to find out what timezone the hardwareclock is set to. If the box is running systemd try timedatectl -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: time question, as in ntp?

chronyc tracking will tell you what time Chrony thinks it is. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: time question, as in ntp?

server it would just work. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: time question, as in ntp?

internal synchronization but that isn't related to the system clocks. The default NTP configuration in most Linux distributions will take care of the system clocks if they have access to the Internet. If not run an NTP server on one machine. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: Non-delivery reports from postmas...@ewetel.de

Andy Smith writes: > Is anyone else receiving non-delivery report emails from > postmas...@ewetel.de for every email they post to debian-user? I am. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: time question, as in ntp?

Gene writes: > Like I said, boring. Not boring at all. I assume that you also have a desktop or laptop on that network? If I was running it I would *definitely* be using DHCP. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: time question, as in ntp?

tomas writes: > Oh, oh... my first "Internet" (not in the sense of IP, obviously!) > connection was via UUCP. Likewise. -- John Hasler ihnp4!stolaf!bungia!foundln!john j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: time question, as in ntp?

ngs the hard way, but whatever. In any case that Klipper box is not running Debian: your are on the wrong forum. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: time question, as in ntp?

to do the latter. BTW my network experience goes back to bang paths. I'm currently using both hosts files and DHCP. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: time question, as in ntp?

a dhcp server somewhere on your network (on the router is conventional) and it will give that machine an ip number. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: used vs. unused packages installed

without actually changing anything. It needn't be run as root. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: time question, as in ntp?

dhcpcd is a DHCP client with a remarkably poorly chosen name. DHCPCD(8)System Manager’s Manual DHCPCD(8) NAME dhcpcd — a DHCP client dhcpd is a DHCP server. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: time question, as in ntp?

do you want to do that? -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: time question, as in ntp?

anything when you add a machine. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: time question, as in ntp?

Install chrony. But first fix that address. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: sid

Removing the Gnome desktop will not break anything. There are several "desktops" in Debian: Gnome is merely the default that you get when you indicate that you want one but don't say which. There is in fact no requirement for a "desktop" at all. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: question e webkit

https://webkitgtk.org/ -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: Debian GNU/Linux Books

Much about Debian *doesn't* change. A book about it with Bookworm/Trixie as an example and including a discussion of how it does change could be quite useful. It could be updated every few years. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: Linux supprt

technical problem. I think that to most people their "devices" (cellphone, desktop, whatever) are appliances. They have no more interest in learning about the internals of those than in the internals of their washing machines. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: Password managers

Why does "accepted/popular" matter? -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: All the unicorns are dead on Linux

to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > IT'S A CONSPIRACY! UNICORNS AREN'T REAL!!! Of course they are real. It's virgins (the only people who can see them) that don't exist. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: All the unicorns are dead on Linux

Dan Ritter wrote: > No, we're just riffing about the lack of a fantastical magical > world in which everything works consistently. Karen Lewellen wrote: > Ah.. that world is called DOS. Well, a resident monitor is a lot easier to make consistent than an operating system. -- John

Re: All the unicorns are dead on Linux

I wrote: > On System III directories were files. Nicolas George writes: > On Linux, directories are files. Try to edit one. On System III the same system calls operated on files and directories. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: All the unicorns are dead on Linux

Paul Duncan writes: > Yes, but we (on Linux and I *think* on good old System V and BSD 4.3) > have mkfile and mkdir - so surely that means that everything (stored > on a bit of rotating rust) is *not* a file :-) On System III directories were files. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com El

Re: How to compare one folder to one directory

Greg writes: > The use of "directory" in the Unix sense predates graphical UI > development. > ... > ... The whole point of the desktop metaphor was to hide all of that from the user. I'm not defending it: just describing a bit of its history. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: On folders vs. directories and history [was: how to compare...]

w you squint). On System III there was no restriction on hard links: you could create an an arbitrarily complex cyclic graph. Fortunately, I backed up the system before experimenting with this. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: [OFFTOPIC] On folders vs. directories and history [was: how to compare...]

the early years weren't thinking about personal computers. They were working on office automation. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: How to compare one folder to one directory

op which might have actual file folders on it. Every icon was supposed to be an image of a familiar office object. In that context a directory is a phone book. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: How to compare one folder to one directory

;desktop metaphor". The idea was to hide scary technical jargon behind familiar office jargon. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: Changing host name and domain name on Debian; was:Domainnametouse on home networks

Gene writes: > That is informative, thanks Felix, but what is wrong with publishing > the correct address? Correct address for what? You don't want bugzilla.org: that's the home page for the Bugzilla bug tracking program which whoever you are trying to contact uses. -- John Has

Re: Changing host name and domain name on Debian; was: Domainnametouse on home networks

Gene writes: > But bugzilla knows me by name and I am not me when coming from a new > ISP. So use a different name. > Mail sent to ad...@bugzilla.com bounces. bugzilla.com is a site about customized Volkswagen beetles. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: Performance of my computer

rs. I believe you can adjust memory usage in about:config in Firefox. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: Domain name to use on home networks

I wrote: > Why do you have NetworkManager installed at all? Gene writes: > Std image dd'd to u-sd card install on the arm64 stuff, can't get away > from it. Why won't "sudo apt remove --purge network-manager" work for you? -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: Domain name to use on home networks

Why do you have NetworkManager installed at all? -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: Domain name to use on home networks

Gene writes: > possibly, its a Buffalo Netfinity with a now elderly dd-wrt reflash, > and whose pw I've long since forgot, and its 30 chars of random > gibberish IIRC. Write the password on the router. Write all your passwords down. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: Domain name to use on home networks

David Wright writes: > I'm just wondering where this file /etc/domainname came from in the > first place. I can't find it with apt-file (killing two birds): Gene created it, having been confused by the hostname man page. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: A replacement for gkrellm

Gene writes: > s/t be an xsensors.conf to edit? /etc/sensors3.conf is it. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: A replacement for gkrellm

Install xsensors and read the man page. You may need to run sensors-detect and perhaps edit /etc/sensors3.conf. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: Domain name to use on home networks

does have /etc/init.d/hostname.sh. However, a recently installed Bookworm does not. > Whatever's reading /etc/hostname comes from another location. systemd-hostnamed -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: Domain name to use on home networks

The NIS stuff should be evicted from the hostname man page. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: Domain name to use on home networks

Erwan writes: > Here are the first lines of 'man domainname" : That doesn't help very much with no hint as to what NIS is and that it isn't relevant to DNS. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: Domain name to use on home networks

Gene writes: > Define NIS please. Network Information Service. You've never heard of it because it's obsolete. You should ignore it. <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_Information_Service> -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

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