Re: Python

On Saturday 08 July 2017 13:06:29 Kris G wrote: > Hi, > > I am considering switching over to Debian from Fedora. I was wondering if > Debian Jessie has python pre installed? Or does it have to be installed via > the terminal as an apt-get? > > I apologise if this is a silly question? > > Regards.

Re: Stretch--how to launch WICD, which isn't in the menu

On Monday 19 June 2017 12:09:59 Brian wrote: > On Mon 19 Jun 2017 at 11:38:28 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Monday 19 June 2017 00:24:52 pplaw wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > In Stretch, I'd like to use WICD to manage network interfaces, > > > but

Re: Stretch--how to launch WICD, which isn't in the menu

On Monday 19 June 2017 00:24:52 pplaw wrote: > Hi, > > In Stretch, I'd like to use WICD to manage network interfaces, > but when I go through what had been my usual menu with Jessie > (Programs > Applications > network > Monitoring > WICD), there's > no Monitoring > WICD. > > How do I access and,

Re: Why does no one care that Brad Spengler of GRSecurity is blatantly violating the intention of the rightsholders to the Linux Kernel?

On Thursday 15 June 2017 16:41:56 aconcernedfoss...@airmail.cc wrote: > Why does no one care that Brad Spengler of GRSecurity is blatantly > violating the intention of the rightsholders to the Linux Kernel? It isn't that we don't care. It is that we feel helpless, which is just what Bard

Re: Downgrading specific packages with apt

On Sunday 11 June 2017 08:16:11 Fungi4All wrote: > Below please find Lisi's answer on whether packages should be reverted or > not. !! There is nothing there - not surprising since I have never passed an opinion on any such thing. Does the version that went directly to solitone have a

Re: Downgrading specific packages with apt

On Saturday 10 June 2017 10:45:22 Fungi4All wrote: > UTC Time: June 10, 2017 7:42 AM > From: solit...@mail.com > > On Friday, 9 June 2017 23:38:40 CEST Jimmy Johnson wrote: > > I've never downgrade using apt, but with synaptic it's not too hard, > > Hi Jimmy, and thanks for your reply. I'm under

Re: ifconfig network resolution

On Saturday 10 June 2017 21:18:42 Cindy-Sue Causey wrote: > My apologies in advance because I'm asking that without knowing if he > does or does not actually speak Japanese. He might be able to read > that quite well. In that case, I'm envious because that's on a #Life > to-do bucket list for me..

Re: (abort)Re: why can't I visit this web site

On Wednesday 07 June 2017 01:51:30 Long Wind wrote: > i can visit the web site with firefox 4 xp and android browser. the problem > is with iceweasel > > thanks anyway! > > On Wednesday, June 7, 2017, SDA wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 07, 2017 at 05:30:05AM +0800, Long Wind

Re: Proper sources list from Jessie > Stretch

On Sunday 04 June 2017 00:27:06 Ric Moore wrote: > On 06/02/2017 10:41 AM, Fungi4All wrote: > > Sorry for the top-post but I think it is appropriate > > It is not ever appropriate, no matter what you think. Ric +1 Lisi

Re: Setting up power-off icon

On Thursday 01 June 2017 00:58:37 Ben Caradoc-Davies wrote: > On 01/06/17 11:48, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Thursday 01 June 2017 00:17:29 Lisi Reisz wrote: > >> [Desktop Entry] > > [...] > > >> Icon=/usr/share/pixmaps/power-button-off_318-4.jpg > >

Re: Setting up power-off icon

On Thursday 01 June 2017 00:17:29 Lisi Reisz wrote: > I want to set up a large power-off icon on the desktop for a user with very > poor sight. I have found a suitable icon and am now struggling with > setting up the icon on the desktop. > > Debian Jessie 8.8 with TDE 14.0.5. >

Setting up power-off icon

I want to set up a large power-off icon on the desktop for a user with very poor sight. I have found a suitable icon and am now struggling with setting up the icon on the desktop. Debian Jessie 8.8 with TDE 14.0.5. This is what I have so far: [Desktop Entry] Name=Shut_down Comment=Log out

Re: Need something similar to mate-color-select

On Friday 26 May 2017 14:09:21 Richard Owlett wrote: > I'm using Stretch with MATE desktop. > I need to chose a solid color for my background. > It is unsuitable for two reasons: > 1. The sample color display is *TOO* small. > 2. When using the color wheel an *ANNOYING* text box appears. >

Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.

On Tuesday 23 May 2017 23:06:44 Felix Miata wrote: > Anil Duggirala composed on 2017-05-23 11:00 (UTC-0500): > > Lisi Reisz wrote on 2017-05-23 16:58 (UTC+0100): > >> What is your graphics card? > > > > Im not sure, this is the output from lspci > > 00:02.0 VGA

Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.

On Tuesday 23 May 2017 14:24:49 Anil Duggirala wrote: > Hello, > I have upgrade to Stretch, and my system is loading the graphical > interface (Gnome). However, I believe my graphics are sluggish, video > playback at some points starts freezing and sometimes just becomes > unwatchable (it starts

Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.

On Monday 22 May 2017 15:12:39 Anil Duggirala wrote: > Thanks a lot Brian, so right after I install I can change all deb lines > and replace 'testing' with 'stretch' ?? If you are installing from scratch, yes. If you are upgrading, go straight from "stable" or "jessie" to "stretch", and don't

Re: Is this sources.list correct?

On Monday 22 May 2017 21:11:48 Michael Milliman wrote: > On 05/22/2017 06:21 AM, Fungi4All wrote: > >> Original Message > >> Subject: Re: Is this sources.list correct? > >> UTC Time: May 22, 2017 6:09 AM > >> From: compro...@list.comprofix.com > >> fjfj...@protonmail.com > >> >

Re: How stable is the frozen stretch?

On Wednesday 17 May 2017 15:57:29 G wrote: > I'm thinking installing Debian testing (stretch)on my laptop and then > follow stretch but i am wondering what will happen when todays Debian > testing becomes stable. Am i have to reinstall Debian when testing > becomes stable? No. > > I search

Re: how to copy files

On Sunday 14 May 2017 21:57:35 Long Wind wrote: > I have a folder in hard drive and a backup of it is made in a USB disk > Now some new files are added to the folder in hard drive > how to make the folder in USB disk the same as in hard drive? > > I want a program that can check the two folders >

Re: How to run Debian from SD card but booting from USB stick?

On Thursday 11 May 2017 21:58:09 Richard Owlett wrote: > > FromSD) and I'm wondering if it > > will work for Debian. > > Your URL is garbled. I tried some quick fixes but didn't work. Works fine for me. :-/ Lisi

Re: How stable is the frozen stretch?

On Monday 08 May 2017 00:45:34 Michael Milliman wrote: > Many people also run Experimental > (Sid) for the benefit of bleeding-edge versions of software, but a lot > of instability (in all senses of the word). No, Sid is not the same as Experimental. Sid is Unstable. Then there is also

Re: Only root can write on USB disk

On Thursday 04 May 2017 16:22:46 Mostafa Shahverdy wrote: > > In my /etc/fstab, I add lines for the drives and put 'user' in the > > options: > > > > LABEL= auto noauto,user,rw,exec 0 0 > > I played with fstab as far as I could, and still no luck. It is still > owned by root. I also found

Re: Alternative for printer-driver-cups-pdf?

On Tuesday 02 May 2017 19:04:55 Felix Natter wrote: > I tried renaming the file to freeplane.ps, and get the same result when > viewing with evince ;-) Renaming is generally a waste of time in Linux, which looks at the file not the file extension. You are thinking of Another OS. ;-) Lisi

Re: converting my local site to be https only access

On Monday 01 May 2017 01:19:21 david...@freevolt.org wrote: > Development of lynx continues unabated: > > http://invisible-island.net/lynx/lynx-develop.html The most recent reference seems to be to 2015: "Finally (as of 2015) " Lisi

Re: BUG or OPERATOR error? - was [Re: Measuring aggregate internet useage?]

On Wednesday 26 April 2017 15:36:36 Richard Owlett wrote: > On 04/26/2017 07:50 AM, Darac Marjal wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 08:35:44AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > >> On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 01:25:18PM +0100, Darac Marjal wrote: > >>> For interface statistics from ip, try "ip -s link

Re: No sound-inputs but sound recording FMIT

On Saturday 04 March 2017 13:32:28 rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Friday, March 03, 2017 02:53:26 PM The Wanderer wrote: > > Because hitting New means you have to put in the To address, but hitting > > Reply means the address is already there and you can just start typing > > your message (and

Re: unattended upgrades does not do anything

On Tuesday 18 April 2017 15:55:25 Jonathan Dowland wrote: > If you Lisi revisit this and it doesn't work, I could try to help. Thanks, Jonathan. I may therefore revisit it later this week! :-) Lisi

Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot

On Monday 17 April 2017 23:04:57 Richard Owlett wrote: > Please note my usage of "criterion" rather than "criteria". Sorry Richard. I would certainly have noted if you hadn't. It would have screamed at me. I'm afraid that I don't always notice in passing when words are used correctly! Nor

Re: RTL8111 Networking Drivers

On Monday 17 April 2017 17:28:00 GiaThnYgeia wrote: > Ron Bales: > > Yeah just hope'n someone could get a line in > > This is an English users list, please translate hope'n for us dear! > > Old timers ganging up against the newbie is the oldest trick on the book > to avoid responding to criticism.

Re: RTL8111 Networking Drivers

On Monday 17 April 2017 17:25:00 GiaThnYgeia wrote: > Political > responsibility lies on the organization to respond to criticism or allow > it to rest as valid and unanswered. You seem to labour under the delusion that there is an organisation called "Debian", which could, if it wished,

Re: RTL8111 Networking Drivers

On Sunday 16 April 2017 15:12:14 Ron Bales wrote: > Why do you not include the drivers for RTL8111 I have not used Mint for > years because the network never worked I found the drivers and installed > them but way to much trouble I was getting ready to give up for good and > found the instructions

Re: Almost all gpg2 operations hang after upgrade to stretch/testing

On Thursday 06 April 2017 19:41:15 Richard Owlett wrote: > I've been avoiding Google for personal reasons and using DuckDuckGo > instead. DuckDuckGo does not return that page - I'd assumed the two > search engines were equally productive. No, they are not. That is why some of us sadly use Google

Re: If Linux Is About Choice, Why Then ...

On Wednesday 12 April 2017 23:42:00 GiaThnYgeia wrote: >  Do I strike you > like a person needing to hold hands with anyone? Very much so. Lisi

Re: If Linux Is About Choice, Why Then ...

On Wednesday 12 April 2017 20:42:37 David Wright wrote: > > If you like to contribute to my lack of understanding and possibly > > unsubstantiated criticism, help me understand the hierarchy.  Who, and > > how are they are selected, make the decisions and how do they relate to > > those that do

Re: If Linux Is About Choice, Why Then ...

made their choice. Ubuntu has chosen - of course - to go where the money is. No-one cares what Richard Owlett - or Lisi Reisz - has chosen for his (her) laptop. And why should anyone? Lisi

Re: If Linux Is About Choice, Why Then ...

On Sunday 09 April 2017 22:39:50 Miles Fidelman wrote: > On 4/9/17 4:15 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > After much reading, I consider systemd more suited to large, busy > > servers than a desktop box or notebook with just one user. It's > > like being forced to use a huge tractor-trailer rig with

Re: Installer: problem installing onto LVM on RAID1

On Sunday 09 April 2017 18:43:32 Ron Leach wrote: > While trying to install Debian 7.11 Why are you installing Wheezy? Lisi

Re: info

On Sunday 09 April 2017 12:14:16 Richard Owlett wrote: > On 04/08/2017 05:21 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Saturday 08 April 2017 23:12:15 darkestkhan wrote: > >> On Sat, Apr 8, 2017 at 8:58 PM, domenico cop <domenic...@yahoo.it> wrote: > >>> hi. I am a consumer

Re: info

On Saturday 08 April 2017 23:12:15 darkestkhan wrote: > On Sat, Apr 8, 2017 at 8:58 PM, domenico cop wrote: > > hi. I am a consumer microsoft from little past to linux. but how much > > confusion that us. thousand distributions thousand names. it should take > > only a name

Re: unattended upgrades does not do anything

On Wednesday 05 April 2017 21:26:16 Erwan David wrote: > Le 04/05/17 à 21:59, Tom Dial a écrit : > > On 04/05/2017 10:22 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote: > >> On Wednesday 05 April 2017 15:46:53 Jonathan Dowland wrote: > >>> On Wed, Apr 05, 2017 at 10:26:18PM +0900, Mark Fle

Re: unattended upgrades does not do anything

On Wednesday 05 April 2017 20:59:02 Tom Dial wrote: > On 04/05/2017 10:22 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Wednesday 05 April 2017 15:46:53 Jonathan Dowland wrote: > >> On Wed, Apr 05, 2017 at 10:26:18PM +0900, Mark Fletcher wrote: > >>> I am going to have a go at getti

Re: unattended upgrades does not do anything

On Wednesday 05 April 2017 15:46:53 Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Wed, Apr 05, 2017 at 10:26:18PM +0900, Mark Fletcher wrote: > > I am going to have a go at getting unattended-upgrades to work sometime > > in the next few days, I will post back what my results, even if the only > > thing that

Re: unattended upgrades does not do anything

On Tuesday 04 April 2017 20:29:26 Gregor Zattler wrote: > Hi Mark, debian users, > > * Mark Fletcher [2017-04-03; 21:08]: > > On Sat, Apr 01, 2017 at 06:04:16PM +0200, Gregor Zattler wrote: > > There's another thread recently (during March, I think) on this mailing > > list

Re: If Linux Is About Choice, Why Then ...

On Monday 03 April 2017 13:55:44 Michael Fothergill wrote: > I think choice in food is important - e.g. flavours of spam: > > Closed Source: > > Regular Spam Hot & Spicy Spam Jalapeño Spam Spam with Black Pepper Low [snip etc. ] > Open Source > > Systemd Spam > Openrc Spam > > etc Not all

Re: [TEST RUNS] Re: installer defaults for desktops (was Re: Suggested edit)

On Saturday 01 April 2017 21:23:21 Cindy-Sue Causey wrote: > On 4/1/17, cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz <cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz> wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 03:33:08PM +0000, Lisi Reisz wrote: > >> In all this talk of Debian being the universal operating system, and &

Re: Linux Mint, Ubuntu, Arch Linux recognize my Acer Aspire S wifi, debian does not

On Saturday 01 April 2017 19:55:22 Jimmy Johnson wrote: > On 04/01/2017 06:08 AM, cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 06:47:06AM -0700, Jimmy Johnson wrote: > >> On 03/14/2017 09:57 PM, Dean Valentine wrote: > >>> I have installed three operating systems on this computer:

Re: [TEST RUNS] Re: installer defaults for desktops (was Re: Suggested edit)

On Saturday 01 April 2017 18:59:48 cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz wrote: > On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 03:33:08PM +0000, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > In all this talk of Debian being the universal operating system, and > > helping newbies ... > > I'm not sure those two concepts are rela

Re: OT: speaking of days (weeks, months, years, etc.) (was: Re: Movie 'n Book recommendations by Curt)

On Saturday 01 April 2017 18:11:12 Liam O'Toole wrote: > On 2017-03-31, Lisi Reisz <lisi.re...@gmail.com> wrote: > > (...) > > > We are part of the same sovereign state, but 4 nations. > > When you consider some of the Irish, yes. Most Irish people live in a > d

Re: OT: speaking of days (weeks, months, years, etc.)

On Friday 31 March 2017 22:53:00 kAt wrote: > As there is a domination of the > industrial North and elitism against the dominated South. Not here The non-industrial white collar south-east dominates the industrial north economically. The Northern Powerhub is so far a figment of the

Re: OT: speaking of days (weeks, months, years, etc.)

On Friday 31 March 2017 15:43:50 Stefan Monnier wrote: > I tried "aptitude install Thursday" and that failed miserably. > Then I tried with `apt-get`: same result. > > The worst part is that I get the same kinds of failures when I try > "aptitude install this Thursday" or "aptitude install next

Re: OT: speaking of days (weeks, months, years, etc.) (was: Re: Movie 'n Book recommendations by Curt)

On Friday 31 March 2017 15:15:46 rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Friday, March 31, 2017 09:34:26 AM Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Friday 31 March 2017 14:04:03 rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > > To specify the Thursday before the last Thursday, use something like: > > > "t

Re: OT: speaking of days (weeks, months, years, etc.) (was: Re: Movie 'n Book recommendations by Curt)

On Friday 31 March 2017 14:04:03 rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > To specify the Thursday before the last Thursday, use something like: "the > Thursday before last Thursday". > > To specify the Thursday after the coming Thursday, use something like: "the > Thursday after next Thursday". Great - all

Re: Movie 'n Book recommendations by Curt

On Thursday 30 March 2017 21:22:57 Catherine Gramze wrote: > This reminds me of the time a professor gave a coding assignment on > Tuesday, due "next Thursday." To most of the class that meant in 2 days, > rather than next week. Hilarity ensued. But I think the Brits have it > right, with

Re: Movie 'n Book recommendations by Curt

On Thursday 30 March 2017 18:43:00 kAt wrote: > In any case, looking "down" on people due to their origin One of the geographical meanings of "down" in English English is "South" . "South (as south is at the bottom of typical maps). I went down to Miami for a conference."

Re: Movie 'n Book recommendations by Curt

On Wednesday 29 March 2017 20:46:00 kAt wrote: > What do you mean down?  You arrogant yankee? Don't Yankees come from the United States?? Or is Curt an expat?? Lisi

Re: Where is data stored when Synaptic scans DVDs?

On Tuesday 21 March 2017 12:11:00 Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 02:27:47AM +0000, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > Brian, I squirmed. "Data is" ... I can just about handle. I CANNOT > > (yes, I can shout too!) handle "agenda is". Agenda

Re: repairing damage to package manager

On Friday 24 March 2017 19:57:56 Chuck Hallenbeck wrote: > One more O.T. observation: Debian let me do a truly dumb thing, but I > wouldn't have it any other way. :-))) +1 Lisi

Re: installer defaults for desktops (was Re: Suggested edit)

On Friday 24 March 2017 18:25:30 Joe wrote: > On Fri, 24 Mar 2017 15:18:31 + > > Lisi Reisz <lisi.re...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Friday 24 March 2017 12:06:58 Joe wrote: > > > I've mentioned recently that I once did a non-expert netinstall, in > > >

Re: Unattended upgrades.

On Friday 24 March 2017 17:34:58 Teemu Likonen wrote: > Lisi Reisz [2017-03-24 17:13:21Z] wrote: > > On Friday 24 March 2017 09:56:23 didier gaumet wrote: > >> # dpkg-reconfigure -plow unattended-upgrades > > > > This is what I had missed! I have now run it. > &g

Re: Unattended upgrades.

On Friday 24 March 2017 09:56:23 didier gaumet wrote: > Le 24/03/2017 à 09:41, Lisi Reisz a écrit : > [...] > > > Let's start with the file you mention: > > /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/20auto-upgrades It isn't there. > > the Debian wiki indicates that it has to be created, e

Re: installer defaults for desktops (was Re: Suggested edit)

On Friday 24 March 2017 12:06:58 Joe wrote: > I've mentioned recently that I once did a non-expert netinstall, in the > days when I used static addresses and no DHCP, and was miffed to find I > had no network interfaces at the end of the process. Until fairly recently I have always had static IPs

Re: installer defaults for desktops (was Re: Suggested edit)

On Friday 24 March 2017 12:06:58 Joe wrote: > the user > should be notified and asked whether to continue. The user *is* notified and asked whether to continue. The user is not *prevented* from continuing, should he or she be perverse enough to wish to do so. Lisi

Re: installer defaults for desktops (was Re: Suggested edit)

On Friday 24 March 2017 12:07:59 Richard Owlett wrote: > It might be just the ticket for some > of my minimalist experiments. ;-) It would. The other minimalist install media have mostly gone by the board. I have just checked, and amazingly LNX-BBC (Linux Bootable Business Card) and DSL

Re: installer defaults for desktops (was Re: Suggested edit)

On Friday 24 March 2017 10:20:46 Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 11:07:22AM +0100, Mart van de Wege wrote: > > I disagree. Sometimes there is no disagreement, someone is just plain > > wrong. Catherine has been given the use cases that disprove her thesis, > > and has been

Re: Unattended upgrades. Debian methods, please, not Ubuntu.

On Thursday 23 March 2017 04:26:17 Teemu Likonen wrote: > Lisi Reisz [2017-03-22 00:37:18Z] wrote: > > How do I get unattended upgrades a) to function and b) to tell me when > > it has upgraded something. > > Probably you need to add the following lines in the top of

Re: Unattended upgrades.

Thank you for your further response. I have tried to answer your questions, which will show you that I am completely at sea. On Thursday 23 March 2017 09:03:01 didier gaumet wrote: > Le 23/03/2017 à 02:06, Lisi Reisz a écrit : > > Thank you. Yes, I have read and tried to follow it.

Re: installer defaults for desktops (was Re: Suggested edit)

On Thursday 23 March 2017 22:54:13 Catherine Gramze wrote: > > On Mar 23, 2017, at 6:44 PM, Lisi Reisz <lisi.re...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Thursday 23 March 2017 22:18:53 Catherine Gramze wrote: > >>> Mar 23, 2017, at 2:46 PM, Li

Re: installer defaults for desktops (was Re: Suggested edit)

On Thursday 23 March 2017 22:18:53 Catherine Gramze wrote: > >  Mar 23, 2017, at 2:46 PM, Lisi Reisz <lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > This is of course incorrect.  But I doubt that I could refute it without > > appearing aggressive again. :-( > > What

Re: installer defaults for desktops (was Re: Suggested edit)

My reply went initially in error to Catherine privately because she had sent a copy to me privately. I wish people would stick to teh CoC and not cc people. On Thursday 23 March 2017 18:20:39 Catherine Gramze wrote: > Sent from my iPad > > > On Mar 23, 2017, at 2:03 PM, Steve McIntyre

Re: installer defaults for desktops (was Re: Suggested edit)

On Thursday 23 March 2017 18:03:35 Steve McIntyre wrote: > Please calm down, why the aggression? :-( Sorry. Lisi

Re: installer defaults for desktops (was Re: Suggested edit)

On Thursday 23 March 2017 16:48:56 Catherine Gramze wrote: > > On Mar 23, 2017, at 12:38 PM, Steve McIntyre <st...@einval.com> wrote: > > > > Catherine Gramze wrote: > >>> On Mar 20, 2017, at 10:02 PM, Lisi Reisz <lisi.re...@gmail.com> wrote: > >

Re: installer defaults for desktops (was Re: Suggested edit)

On Thursday 23 March 2017 11:50:33 Joe wrote: > On Thu, 23 Mar 2017 11:07:22 +0100 > > Mart van de Wege wrote: > > Jonathan Dowland writes: > > > On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 08:06:46AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > >> On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 08:52:46PM -0400,

Re: Unattended upgrades. Debian methods, please, not Ubuntu.

On Wednesday 22 March 2017 07:42:09 didier gaumet wrote: > there is a doc in the Debian wiki: > https://wiki.debian.org/UnattendedUpgrades Thank you. Yes, I have read and tried to follow it. I quote: - To install these packages, run the following command as root: # apt-get install

Re: [TEST RUNS] Re: installer defaults for desktops (was Re: Suggested edit)

On Wednesday 22 March 2017 17:26:56 Richard Owlett wrote: > On 03/22/2017 10:33 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Wednesday 22 March 2017 14:53:24 Richard Owlett wrote: > >> On 03/22/2017 09:28 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote: > >>> On Wednesday 22 March 2017 14:05:28 Richard Ow

Re: [TEST RUNS] Re: installer defaults for desktops (was Re: Suggested edit)

On Wednesday 22 March 2017 14:53:24 Richard Owlett wrote: > On 03/22/2017 09:28 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Wednesday 22 March 2017 14:05:28 Richard Owlett wrote: > >> The results of the 6 installs I intended to run: > >> [the only variable being which DE related boxe

Re: [TEST RUNS] Re: installer defaults for desktops (was Re: Suggested edit)

On Wednesday 22 March 2017 14:05:28 Richard Owlett wrote: > The results of the 6 installs I intended to run: > [the only variable being which DE related boxes checked] > [space used reported by gparted] >    1. None >       CLI installed taking ~.92 GB >    2. Only top entry checked (asking for

Unattended upgrades. Debian methods, please, not Ubuntu.

tl:dnr: How do I get unattended upgrades a) to function and b) to tell me when it has upgraded something. With Debian unattended-upgrades installed I can't make out form Adam whether they have run. I have run: # cd /var/log/unattended-upgrades/ # cat unattended-upgrades-shutdown.log # cat

Re: installer defaults for desktops (was Re: Suggested edit)

On Tuesday 21 March 2017 18:38:44 Catherine Gramze wrote: > And I specified it was the netinst about 8 posts ago, immediately in > response to you asking. And I have repeatedly since then mentioned netinst. > You might try reading what I say instead of skimming it for things to > object to. The

Re: installer defaults for desktops (was Re: Suggested edit)

On Tuesday 21 March 2017 17:15:32 Catherine Gramze wrote: > Sent from my iPad Note it is sent from an iPad! Open Source all the way! Incidentally, why did we need to know that? Lisi

Re: installer defaults for desktops (was Re: Suggested edit)

On Tuesday 21 March 2017 17:15:32 Catherine Gramze wrote: > Sent from my iPad > > > On Mar 21, 2017, at 11:10 AM, Greg Wooledge <wool...@eeg.ccf.org> wrote: > >> On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 02:55:07PM +, Lisi Reisz wrote: > >>> On Tuesday 21 Mar

Re: aptitude is dangerous - any replacement?

On Tuesday 21 March 2017 11:31:29 Vincent Lefevre wrote: > Is there any replacement? Or a way to make aptitude ignore > experimental packages? > > Note: I still want to keep experimental in my sources.list for the > cases where I *explicitly* request experimental packages. Can experimental not be

Re: installer defaults for desktops (was Re: Suggested edit)

On Tuesday 21 March 2017 14:33:29 Catherine Gramze wrote: > Refusing to continue an installation that will inevitably be a failure is > how it should act. Rot. It will not "inevitably be a failure". It can be a very good way out of some problems. Lisi

Re: installer defaults for desktops (was Re: Suggested edit)

On Tuesday 21 March 2017 11:59:39 Greg Wooledge wrote: > Sure, if you *don't change the default selection*, you probably get > GNOME.  Is that what you meant by "don't actually select anything"? > Just accepting whatever the default is, without reading or changing > what's on the screen? Exactly

Re: installer defaults for desktops (was Re: Suggested edit)

On Tuesday 21 March 2017 02:58:50 Catherine Gramze wrote: > The installer allows you to continue the installation without a configured > network card, and it shouldn't. Of course it should *allow* you to do so. And it does warn you. Not allow you indeed! People open viruses, help telephone

Re: Where is data stored when Synaptic scans DVDs?

On Monday 20 March 2017 23:03:29 Brian wrote: > [1] I've given up on "agenda"; but not on "data". The World will > eventually see the error of its ways. Brian, I squirmed. "Data is" ... I can just about handle. I CANNOT (yes, I can shout too!) handle "agenda is". Agenda are always more

Re: installer defaults for desktops (was Re: Suggested edit)

On Tuesday 21 March 2017 00:38:36 Richard Owlett wrote: > With the installer from DVD 1 of 13 the first option in taskel is for > choosing to have a desktop - the default is yes. Thanks, Richard! This is as I expected - the default is to have a desktop. I must find a machine on which I can

Re: installer defaults for desktops (was Re: Suggested edit)

On Tuesday 21 March 2017 00:19:52 Catherine Gramze wrote: > > On Mar 20, 2017, at 7:51 PM, Lisi Reisz <lisi.re...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > That sounds as though it is the message that is at fault, not the > > installer or installation method. It should perhaps ment

Re: installer defaults for desktops (was Re: Suggested edit)

On Monday 20 March 2017 20:54:29 Catherine Gramze wrote: > the misleading message that your base installation is complete and the > system will now reboot to Linux. You can't blame some beginners for > believing the installation is complete! That sounds as though it is the message that is at

Re: installer defaults for desktops (was Re: Suggested edit)

On Monday 20 March 2017 20:29:31 Richard Owlett wrote: > On 03/20/2017 03:06 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Monday 20 March 2017 09:46:45 Jonathan Dowland wrote: > >> I don't have an installation image locally to test this as I write, but > >> your messages indicate

Re: installer defaults for desktops (was Re: Suggested edit)

On Monday 20 March 2017 09:46:45 Jonathan Dowland wrote: > I don't have an installation image locally to test this as I write, but > your messages indicate that the graphical desktop options are by default > not selected in the installer, regardless of which installation medium > (netinst, CD,

How do I play a video disc with Debian? was: Re: problems after installing Debian

On Monday 20 March 2017 00:18:37 Harry wrote: > Hi, I have installed Debian 8.5.0 cinnamon i386 .I like the program  > after having a lot of crashes with linux mint !My problem now is i can't > get anything to play a video disc , Totem does'nt work , video player gives > the message could not

Re: Debian Live CD standart

On Sunday 19 March 2017 17:27:34 Alex wrote: > Здравствуйте! > Скачал Debian Live CD standart записал на флешку программой > Win32DiskImager. Запускается окно с выбором, выбираю первый вариант, > после некоторых процессов просит ввести логин и пароль. Что нужно > вводить? Ранее линуксами не

Re: Netinstall of Debian 8 on DELL laptop fails

On Friday 17 March 2017 17:55:12 Klaus Jantzen wrote: > Hello, > > I am trying to net-install Debian 8.7. (Graphical expert install) > > After loading a couple of modules for the installation of the base > system the installer claims that > > beginning with 'groff-base' all modules are corrupted

Re: Suggested edit

On Friday 17 March 2017 17:24:53 Catherine Gramze wrote: > You used Libranet, too? Are you still in touch with Tal? That was my > favorite distro EVER. The only real help I ever got was in the Libranet > beta testing group, for that last release that never made it because John > was so ill. I

Re: Finding firmware (and SHA sums etc), was Re: Linux Mint, Ubuntu, Arch Linux recognize my Acer Aspire S wifi, debian does not

On Thursday 16 March 2017 20:08:16 Brian wrote: > and we are told > it is not the purpose of this list to answer practical problems by > by guiding people to it. :) Oh, come Brian. We are also told that it is not the purpose of Debian to pander to freaks and Geeks. We are told that the moon is

Re: Suggested edit

On Friday 17 March 2017 16:45:31 Catherine Gramze wrote: > It is more important to not intimidate the beginner. Not, it isn't. Debian is for experts, or would-be experts, or those who will never be experts but like to pretend. I am so sad that Debian is becoming more and more Ubuntu-ised.

Re: Suggested edit

On Friday 17 March 2017 15:18:57 Catherine Gramze wrote: > > On Mar 17, 2017, at 10:28 AM, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > > > > That would presume that the majority of users of the installer wanted to > > install a desktop environment. This is not necessarily true even for > >

Re: Suitable text editor [NOT word processor] or workaround?

On Thursday 16 March 2017 11:38:52 Richard Owlett wrote: > My environment is Jessie (8.6.0) with MATE desktop. > I require two things: > 1. a search and replace which can include a "newline" in new string. > 2. display/edit 2 files simultaneously *side by side* > > MATE's standard editor

Re: why??why?why??

On Sunday 12 March 2017 11:49:29 Reco wrote: > > Since when do we reply to stupid subject lines?? It just encourages > > those who use the word "wanna" to express a malformed topic. Ric > > Please have a little decency, Ric. English is not everyone's mother > tongue It is only those whose mother

Re: installing knoppix or debian on hard list

On Saturday 04 February 2017 13:16:23 Richard Owlett wrote: > I have never had any contact with Knoppix so do not know if a > similar procedure could be followed. Knoppix is intended primarily as a Live CD, and last time I tried was quite tricky to install. Lisi

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