Humble Request Re: New release over due

1999-12-03 Thread Nathan O. Siemers
I appreciate the fine quality of the debian distribution and the work that goes into it. Thanks very much! It is my preferred linux distribution. However, I have three systems that are at slink level, and have been waiting for a long time for a 2.2.* kernel, gnome (available outside official

Re: Humble Request Re: New release over due

1999-12-03 Thread Carl Fink
After Potato, *please* limit the scope of the feature changes that will take place before a new release. A 3-4 month cycle seems more appropriate to this kind of development. Make your goals more modest! Debian is already the best linux distro I have seen, with the only drawback that is is

Re: New release over due

1999-11-21 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Sun, Nov 14, 1999 at 10:47:10PM -0500, Tim Webster wrote: I have continued to use debian despite the fact that it has grown extremely out date. In what way? The software in it is old, although not too old. Does it still work? My slink systems still run happily. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt

Re: New release over due

1999-11-21 Thread aphro
What packages are you referring to that are outdated? XF86 is, so compile your own(i have been for ages), kde,gnome ..so compile yer own..again ive done this too..makes my slink system quite happy. ive already decided im NOT going to upgrade any debian systems from slink to potato that are not

Re: New release over due

1999-11-16 Thread John Pearson
On Mon, Nov 15, 1999 at 05:01:53PM +1100, Matthew Dalton wrote George Bonser wrote: On Sun, 14 Nov 1999, Tim Webster wrote: I have continued to use debian despite the fact that it has grown extremely out date. However failing to release a mini potato at this time, has forced me

Re: New release over due

1999-11-16 Thread John Hasler
Jesse writes: What I'd really like to see is more frequent incremental releases of Stable, bug/security fixes and updates only. Say once each month. I'd like to see the package-pool system implemented. Encourage developers to maintain Stable versions of their packages as long as possible,

Re: New release over due

1999-11-16 Thread Fabien Ninoles
John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Noah L. Meyerhans writes: You know, you had merely to ask on the list about making your installation of debian less out-dated. I believe he made it quite clear that he can't get past the Debian spam filters. apt-get dist-upgrade Over a 28.8

Re: New release over due

1999-11-16 Thread John Hasler
Fabien Ninoles writes: That's why I download by night [which cost nothing here]. We have only one phone line, which I cannot tie up for hours at a time, even at night. -- John HaslerThis posting is in the public domain. [EMAIL PROTECTED]Do with it what you will.

New release over due

1999-11-15 Thread Tim Webster
I have continued to use debian despite the fact that it has grown extremely out date. However failing to release a mini potato at this time, has forced me to drop debian. The debian mailing list spam check prevents me from sending mail from my home machine. I am forced to shell into my email

Re: New release over due

1999-11-15 Thread Noah L. Meyerhans
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- You know, you had merely to ask on the list about making your installation of debian less out-dated. We would have told you the following: Add the following lines to /etc/apt/sources.list: deb ftp://security.debian.org/debian-security stable updates deb

Re: New release over due

1999-11-15 Thread John Hasler
Noah L. Meyerhans writes: You know, you had merely to ask on the list about making your installation of debian less out-dated. I believe he made it quite clear that he can't get past the Debian spam filters. apt-get dist-upgrade Over a 28.8 dialup? ROTFL. simply add deb

Re: New release over due

1999-11-15 Thread Matthew Dalton
George Bonser wrote: On Sun, 14 Nov 1999, Tim Webster wrote: I have continued to use debian despite the fact that it has grown extremely out date. However failing to release a mini potato at this time, has forced me to drop debian. Huh? I have not used stable Debian in a

Re: New release over due

1999-11-15 Thread Godric
Matthew Dalton wrote: The problem is not that Debian itself is out of date. The problem is that you can't get an upgraded Debian on CD. Not everyone wants to download hundreds of megabytes over their 33.6kbps connection to upgrade their systems to the latest stuff. It seems that

Re: New release over due

1999-11-15 Thread Matthew Dalton
George Bonser wrote: On Mon, 15 Nov 1999, Matthew Dalton wrote: The problem is not that Debian itself is out of date. The problem is that you can't get an upgraded Debian on CD. Not everyone wants to download hundreds of megabytes over their 33.6kbps connection to upgrade their

Re: New release over due

1999-11-15 Thread Matthew Dalton
Godric wrote: Matthew Dalton wrote: The problem is not that Debian itself is out of date. The problem is that you can't get an upgraded Debian on CD. Not everyone wants to download hundreds of megabytes over their 33.6kbps connection to upgrade their systems to the latest stuff.

Re: New release over due

1999-11-15 Thread Godric
Neo-fandangled-SuperVision2000 video card which is not supported in Debian Slink, so they opt to use RedHat 6.1 instead. This kind of thing is increasinly giving the public the impression that Linux is indeed forking and that RedHat is better because it supports more hardware than Debian.

Re: New release over due

1999-11-15 Thread Urban Gabor
IMHO using linux gives you the opportunity to update only if you do want it. I am running hamm at home, slink in the office, and I am content with them. You can have the lates packages one-by one, but I guess it is very rare when you are forced really to upgrade. BTW people with slow TCP/IP

Re: New release over due...

1999-11-15 Thread chewie
I would argue that you CAN upgrade Debian from CD, it's just not as simple as the installation for Slink. In fact, my procedure involves Slink itself. 1) Install Debian Slink from floppy or CD. Do not use the computer type templates or dselect to choose your packages. Instead,

Re: New release over due

1999-11-15 Thread matthschulz
On Mon, 15 Nov 1999, Matthew Dalton wrote: George Bonser wrote: On Sun, 14 Nov 1999, Tim Webster wrote: I have continued to use debian despite the fact that it has grown extremely out date. However failing to release a mini potato at this time, has forced me to drop

Re: New release over due

1999-11-15 Thread Jesse Jacobsen
On 11/15/99, John Hasler scribbled about Re: New release over due: We are required to build and test our packages for unstable. However, it is a myth that you must upgrade to unstable before installing any packages anything from unstable. I'm not opposed to running stable --- I'm doing

Re: New release over due

1999-11-15 Thread Matthew Dalton
Godric wrote: This IMHO is problem of marketing Debs - of people like us who support Debs making the public aware of just how good Debs is and how easy to upgrade. The point is that people do realise that it is easy, but they're still not ready to give up their redhat et al because a CD is