Re: Re: Building computer

2013-09-26 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 10:30 PM, Balamurugan emailstorb...@gmail.com wrote: On 09/25/2013 04:59 AM, Bob Proulx wrote: Catherine Gramze wrote: I intend to build a computer for the specific purpose of running Debian. I have had a bad experience with a store-bought computer, which seemed to be

Re: Building computer

2013-09-26 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 7:09 AM, Stan Hoeppner s...@hardwarefreak.com wrote: On 9/26/2013 5:45 AM, Joel Rees wrote: On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 2:05 PM, Stan Hoeppner s...@hardwarefreak.com wrote: On 9/25/2013 12:52 PM, Catherine Gramze wrote: Stan, joking aside, are there any AMD processors

Re: Building computer

2013-09-26 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 10:23 AM, Rob Owens row...@ptd.net wrote: On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 08:11:31PM -0700, Dan Hitt wrote: This is regarding the question of what computer hardware to buy that will work with debian, given that store-bought computers were a problem this latest time. First,

Re: Building computer

2013-09-26 Thread Beco
On 26 September 2013 22:22, Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com wrote: (I've compiled a kernel on a netbook; you'd better have a few hours to spare...) Questions for people who compile kernel and their machines: How long a considered fast kernel compilation would last? I'd like to have a clue. And

Re: Building computer

2013-09-26 Thread Catherine Gramze
On Sep 26, 2013, at 10:50 PM, Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com wrote: I'd call it obscure rather than magical. Any sufficiently obscure technique is indistinguishable from magic - (my apologies to Arthur C. Clark). On my recent ill-fated Gateway it took spamming the delete key during boot, and then

Re: Building computer

2013-09-26 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 1:45 PM, Catherine Gramze rhia...@gmail.com wrote: I contacted MSI to ask if they made a motherboard I could use. Here is the exchange: Me: I want to purchase a motherboard for a Linux computer. I would prefer one that would accept the new Haswell processor. The BIOS

Re: Building computer

2013-09-25 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2013-09-24 at 23:52 -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote: 2. Choice of integrated GPU As you already pointed out the price point is important too, so NVIDIA and ATI are still good recommendations. Intel might be better, I don't know, since I'm one of those, who don't own a Gold-[censored,

Re: Re: Building computer

2013-09-25 Thread David L. Craig
On 13Sep25:0800+0530, Balamurugan wrote: Recently one of my friend's brother bought a Lenova laptop. My friend asked me to install Ubuntu in that laptop but that machine was not detecting Ubuntu and directly booting into Windows 8. Then after bit of struggle, we went into the bios and

Re: Re: Building computer

2013-09-25 Thread Ralf Mardorf
OT: On Wed, 2013-09-25 at 04:22 -0400, David L. Craig wrote: warranty Depending to the seal there are different tricks to keep warranty. Sometimes, if a seal is above a screw keeping a seal, but tear up the screw by force does work. For some seals, that don't have visible breakings, it's

Re: Building computer

2013-09-25 Thread Richard Owlett
Catherine Gramze wrote: I intend to build a computer for the specific purpose of running Debian. I have had a bad experience with a store-bought computer, which seemed to be wholly unable to boot to anything but Windows 8 - there was no option in the BIOS to boot to the hard drive, or even to

Re: Building computer

2013-09-25 Thread Conrad Nelson
On 09/25/2013 07:28 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: Catherine Gramze wrote: I intend to build a computer for the specific purpose of running Debian. I have had a bad experience with a store-bought computer, which seemed to be wholly unable to boot to anything but Windows 8 - there was no option in

Re: Building computer

2013-09-25 Thread Richard Owlett
Conrad Nelson wrote: On 09/25/2013 07:28 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: Catherine Gramze wrote: I intend to build a computer for the specific purpose of running Debian. I have had a bad experience with a store-bought computer, which seemed to be wholly unable to boot to anything but Windows 8 -

Re: Building computer

2013-09-25 Thread Catherine Gramze
On Sep 25, 2013, at 12:52 AM, Stan Hoeppner s...@hardwarefreak.com wrote: There's a huge amount of what we call channel or DIY hardware out there that works fine with Linux. The only real issues are 1. What's available in your local market and at what price point 2. Choice of

Re: Building computer

2013-09-25 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 9/25/2013 12:52 PM, Catherine Gramze wrote: On Sep 25, 2013, at 12:52 AM, Stan Hoeppner s...@hardwarefreak.com wrote: There's a huge amount of what we call channel or DIY hardware out there that works fine with Linux. The only real issues are 1. What's available in your local market

Re: Building computer

2013-09-24 Thread Shawn Wilson
I haven't had any issues getting a variety of distributions (currently running Gentoo, CentOS, Debian, and a Ubuntu box in oil) on a tons of different hardware from laptops and desktops and servers of quite a few brands. Most desktops and servers are SuperMicro. I highly recommend them.

Re: Building computer

2013-09-24 Thread Bob Proulx
Catherine Gramze wrote: I intend to build a computer for the specific purpose of running Debian. I have had a bad experience with a store-bought computer, which seemed to be wholly unable to boot to anything but Windows 8 - there was no option in the BIOS to boot to the hard drive, or even to

Re: Building computer

2013-09-24 Thread David Christensen
On 09/24/13 13:03, Catherine Gramze wrote: I intend to build a computer for the specific purpose of running Debian. So, I am looking for recommendations on hardware, particularly motherboards, known to play nicely with Debian and boot consistently. I've had the best results with Intel

Re: Re: Building computer

2013-09-24 Thread Balamurugan
Hi Catherine Gramze, Recently one of my friend's brother bought a Lenova laptop. My friend asked me to install Ubuntu in that laptop but that machine was not detecting Ubuntu and directly booting into Windows 8. Then after bit of struggle, we went into the bios and changed the boot mode from

Re: Building computer

2013-09-24 Thread Dan Hitt
Hi Catherine, This is regarding the question of what computer hardware to buy that will work with debian, given that store-bought computers were a problem this latest time. First, what is the name of the computer you actually bought? What the other posters are saying about UEFI is probably

Re: Building computer

2013-09-24 Thread Charles Kroeger
On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 22:10:01 +0200 Catherine Gramze rhia...@gmail.com wrote: there was no option in the BIOS to boot to the hard drive, or even to the EFI partition It surprises me to think you cannot select in your own BIOS the choice of booting from a CD. What kind of BIOS is that? With the

Re: Building computer

2013-09-24 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 9/24/2013 10:11 PM, Charles Kroeger wrote: On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 22:10:01 +0200 Catherine Gramze rhia...@gmail.com wrote: there was no option in the BIOS to boot to the hard drive, or even to the EFI partition It surprises me to think you cannot select in your own BIOS the choice of

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