Re: Debian 12.5 up-to-date Xfce, Firefox clings to USB stick

2024-04-16 Thread Curt
On 2024-04-16, John Crawley wrote: > > If you do not trust Gmail as a web application, use a mail application > that supports IMAP. > Gmail supports IMAP since more or less forever. >>> >>> AIUI the OP's problem was not when reading mail, but with mail >>> submission of

Re: Debian 12.5 up-to-date Xfce, Firefox clings to USB stick

2024-04-16 Thread Curt
On 2024-04-16, Max Nikulin wrote: > > If you do not trust Gmail as a web application, use a mail application > that supports IMAP. Gmail supports IMAP since more or less forever. >>> >>> AIUI the OP's problem was not when reading mail, but with mail >>> submission of

Re: Debian 12.5 up-to-date Xfce, Firefox clings to USB stick

2024-04-15 Thread David Wright
On Mon 15 Apr 2024 at 18:52:33 (-), Curt wrote: > On 2024-04-15, David Wright wrote: > > On Sun 14 Apr 2024 at 14:24:29 (-), Curt wrote: > >> On 2024-04-04, Max Nikulin wrote: > >> > > >> > If you do not trust Gmail as a web application, use a mail application > >> > that supports IMAP.

Re: Debian 12.5 up-to-date Xfce, Firefox clings to USB stick

2024-04-15 Thread Max Nikulin
On 16/04/2024 01:52, Curt wrote: On 2024-04-15, David Wright wrote: On Sun 14 Apr 2024 at 14:24:29 (-), Curt wrote: On 2024-04-04, Max Nikulin wrote: If you do not trust Gmail as a web application, use a mail application that supports IMAP. Gmail supports IMAP since more or less

Re: Debian 12.5 up-to-date Xfce, Firefox clings to USB stick

2024-04-15 Thread John Crawley
On 16/04/2024 03:52, Curt wrote: On 2024-04-15, David Wright wrote: On Sun 14 Apr 2024 at 14:24:29 (-), Curt wrote: On 2024-04-04, Max Nikulin wrote: If you do not trust Gmail as a web application, use a mail application that supports IMAP. Gmail supports IMAP since more or less

Re: Debian 12.5 up-to-date Xfce, Firefox clings to USB stick

2024-04-15 Thread Curt
On 2024-04-15, David Wright wrote: > On Sun 14 Apr 2024 at 14:24:29 (-), Curt wrote: >> On 2024-04-04, Max Nikulin wrote: >> > >> > If you do not trust Gmail as a web application, use a mail application >> > that supports IMAP. >> > >> >> Gmail supports IMAP since more or less forever. > >

Re: Debian 12.5 up-to-date Xfce, Firefox clings to USB stick

2024-04-15 Thread David Wright
On Sun 14 Apr 2024 at 14:24:29 (-), Curt wrote: > On 2024-04-04, Max Nikulin wrote: > > > > If you do not trust Gmail as a web application, use a mail application > > that supports IMAP. > > > > Gmail supports IMAP since more or less forever. AIUI the OP's problem was not when reading

Re: Debian 12.5 up-to-date Xfce, Firefox clings to USB stick

2024-04-14 Thread Curt
On 2024-04-04, Max Nikulin wrote: > > If you do not trust Gmail as a web application, use a mail application > that supports IMAP. > Gmail supports IMAP since more or less forever.

Re: Debian 12.5 up-to-date Xfce, Firefox clings to USB stick

2024-04-03 Thread Max Nikulin
On 31/03/2024 22:35, David Wright wrote: On Sun 31 Mar 2024 at 09:42:37 (+0300), Antti-Pekka Känsälä wrote: But I'm worried my Gmail in Firefox is capable of stealing files off my USB stick. I've no answer for that, particularly in view of Max's reply to my previous post. I've always copied

Re: Debian 12.5 up-to-date Xfce, Firefox clings to USB stick

2024-03-31 Thread Antti-Pekka Känsälä
I filed bug report 1068122. I feel fine, despite my concern over my data. Heartfelt thanks for all the advice!

Re: Debian 12.5 up-to-date Xfce, Firefox clings to USB stick

2024-03-31 Thread David Wright
On Sun 31 Mar 2024 at 09:42:37 (+0300), Antti-Pekka Känsälä wrote: > I'm mounting and unmounting through the stick icon's menu on Xfce desktop. > Maybe a fancy file chooser dialogue stays around analyzing the directory, > as you suspect? But I'm worried my Gmail in Firefox is capable of stealing >

Re: Re: Debian 12.5 up-to-date Xfce, Firefox clings to USB stick

2024-03-31 Thread Antti-Pekka Känsälä
I'm mounting and unmounting through the stick icon's menu on Xfce desktop. Maybe a fancy file chooser dialogue stays around analyzing the directory, as you suspect? But I'm worried my Gmail in Firefox is capable of stealing files off my USB stick.

Re: Debian 12.5 up-to-date Xfce, Firefox clings to USB stick

2024-03-31 Thread Max Nikulin
On 31/03/2024 11:46, David Wright wrote: Double-clicking on the directory mounts it and displays the files in it. Opening a text file displays it. At least for a small file, FF does not hold the file open, so I can immediately unmount the stick. Gmail may do something more fancy -

Re: Debian 12.5 up-to-date Xfce, Firefox clings to USB stick

2024-03-30 Thread David Wright
On Sat 30 Mar 2024 at 21:06:27 (+0200), Antti-Pekka Känsälä wrote: > I was able to replicate this, by trying to send gmail to myself in Firefox, > attaching a binary on a mounted USB stick. Did you mount the stick yourself as a user (ie there's an fstab entry for it), or as root, or does an

Re: Debian 12.5 up-to-date Xfce, Firefox clings to USB stick

2024-03-30 Thread David Christensen
On 3/30/24 08:17, Antti-Pekka Känsälä wrote: What could be the deal, when Firefox tries to stop me from unmounting a stick, after I've accessed files on it through Firefox? I worry about my stick security. Thanks. Linux knows what files are open on each file system. If you try to unmount

Re: Re: Re: Debian 12.5 up-to-date Xfce, Firefox clings to USB stick

2024-03-30 Thread Antti-Pekka Känsälä
I'd just like to add that I have seen the problem despite reinstalls with Debian stable minor versions. Thanks!

Re: Re: Debian 12.5 up-to-date Xfce, Firefox clings to USB stick

2024-03-30 Thread tomas
On Sat, Mar 30, 2024 at 07:32:16PM +0200, Antti-Pekka Känsälä wrote: > Yes, closing Firefox does allow the stick to unmount cleanly, but I still > worry. To get an idea of what's going on, you can use "lsof": tomas@trotzki:~$ lsof /dev/sda1 COMMAND PID USER FD TYPE DEVICE SIZE/OFF NODE

Re: Re: Debian 12.5 up-to-date Xfce, Firefox clings to USB stick

2024-03-30 Thread Antti-Pekka Känsälä
I can replicate this, by trying to send Gmail to myself in Firefox, attaching a binary on a mounted USB stick. After the attachment supposedly was uploaded, I tried to unmount the stick, but it blocked. "lsof | grep -i KINGSTON" then shows a total of 129 lines from "x-www-browser". This lasted for

Re: Re: Debian 12.5 up-to-date Xfce, Firefox clings to USB stick

2024-03-30 Thread Antti-Pekka Känsälä
I was able to replicate this, by trying to send gmail to myself in Firefox, attaching a binary on a mounted USB stick. After the attachment supposedly was uploaded, I tried to unmount the stick, but it blocks. "lsof | grep -i KINGSTON" then shows a total of 129 lines from "x-www-browser". This

Re: Debian 12.5 up-to-date Xfce, Firefox clings to USB stick

2024-03-30 Thread Charles Curley
On Sat, 30 Mar 2024 17:17:52 +0200 Antti-Pekka Känsälä wrote: > What could be the deal, when Firefox tries to stop me from unmounting > a stick, after I've accessed files on it through Firefox? I worry > about my stick security. Thanks. It sounds like Firefox has a file open on the stick. To

Re: Debian 12.5 up-to-date Xfce, Firefox clings to USB stick

2024-03-30 Thread Cindy Sue Causey
On Sat, Mar 30, 2024 at 1:19 PM gene heskett wrote: > > On 3/30/24 11:36, Antti-Pekka Känsälä wrote: > > What could be the deal, when Firefox tries to stop me from unmounting a > > stick, after I've accessed files on it through Firefox? I worry about > > my stick security. Thanks. > > Since

Re: Re: Debian 12.5 up-to-date Xfce, Firefox clings to USB stick

2024-03-30 Thread Antti-Pekka Känsälä
Yes, closing Firefox does allow the stick to unmount cleanly, but I still worry.

Re: Debian 12.5 up-to-date Xfce, Firefox clings to USB stick

2024-03-30 Thread gene heskett
On 3/30/24 11:36, Antti-Pekka Känsälä wrote: What could be the deal, when Firefox tries to stop me from unmounting a stick, after I've accessed files on it through Firefox?  I worry about my stick security.  Thanks. Since this is normally a root operation, I'm confused. Likely what it means