On Friday 09 February 2024 04:41:37 pm hw wrote:
> On Fri, 2024-02-09 at 11:34 -0500, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote:
> > On Friday 09 February 2024 06:07:16 am hw wrote:
> > > What other manufacturers could we buy UPSs from?
> >
> > I have a Tripp-Lite sitting next to me here that replaced an APC
On Fri 09 Feb 2024 at 22:28:28 (-0500), Felix Miata wrote:
> When you live on a power grid, extended outages are much less common than
> when on
> or near waterfront or political boundaries. Most of Florida's population has
> no
> out-of-state neighbors to share utilities with, making its grid
On Sat, 2024-02-10 at 18:40 +, Joe wrote:
> On Sat, 10 Feb 2024 16:45:29 +0100
> hw wrote:
>
>
> >
> > The cheap APC models seem to produce a lot more heat, and their
> > batteries don't seem to last as long. They work and they're not
> > really a good deal. I don't have test equipment
On 2/10/24 13:40, Joe wrote:
On Sat, 10 Feb 2024 16:45:29 +0100
hw wrote:
The cheap APC models seem to produce a lot more heat, and their
batteries don't seem to last as long. They work and they're not
really a good deal. I don't have test equipment for UPCs, but you can
feel how warm
On Sat, 2024-02-10 at 08:57 -0500, Felix Miata wrote:
> hw composed on 2024-02-10 11:01 (UTC+0100):
>
> > On Fri, 2024-02-09 at 22:28 -0500, Felix Miata wrote:
>
> > > Those from the above URL are the same spec batteries used in many APC
> > > models.
>
> > Maybe, maybe not. I couldn't get
hw composed on 2024-02-10 11:01 (UTC+0100):
> On Fri, 2024-02-09 at 22:28 -0500, Felix Miata wrote:
>> Those from the above URL are the same spec batteries used in many APC models.
> Maybe, maybe not. I couldn't get replacement batteries for the UPS
> from HP not only because HP was so
On Fri, 2024-02-09 at 22:28 -0500, Felix Miata wrote:
> hw composed on 2024-02-10 03:18 (UTC+0100):
> [...]
> > Well, having batteries shipped over from the US would probably cost
> > more than a new UPS.
>
> They are made in China. Surely there are UK sellers.
It might be cheaper to ship them
hw composed on 2024-02-10 03:18 (UTC+0100):
> On Fri, 2024-02-09 at 18:51 -0500, Felix Miata wrote:
>> hw composed on 2024-02-09 22:45 (UTC+0100):
>> [...]
>>> Hm, Powercom doesn't seem to exist here, but Eaton seems to have good
>>> prices. How's the battery availability with Eaton?
>>
On Fri, 2024-02-09 at 18:51 -0500, Felix Miata wrote:
> hw composed on 2024-02-09 22:45 (UTC+0100):
> [...]
> > Hm, Powercom doesn't seem to exist here, but Eaton seems to have good
> > prices. How's the battery availability with Eaton?
>
>
Stefan Monnier composed on 2024-02-09 12:18 (UTC-0500):
>>> What other manufacturers could we buy UPSs from?
>> I have a Tripp-Lite sitting next to me here that replaced an APC and has
>> 2-1/2 times the capabiliity. Been in service several weeks and so far I'm
>> pretty happy with it...
>
hw composed on 2024-02-09 22:45 (UTC+0100):
> On Fri, 2024-02-09 at 12:10 -0500, Felix Miata wrote:
>> hw composed on 2024-02-09 12:07 (UTC+0100):
>> > What other manufacturers could we buy UPSs from?
>> I bought my first APC just last year, because it was what I found on the
>> shelf in
>>
hw wrote:
> On Fri, 2024-02-09 at 06:44 -0500, Dan Ritter wrote:
> > hw wrote:
> > > On Thu, 2024-02-08 at 15:29 +, Andy Smith wrote:
> > > > [...]
> > > That sucks. I didn't know that they don't stand behind their
> > > products, and it makes APC not recommendable any longer.
> > >
> > >
On Fri, 2024-02-09 at 12:10 -0500, Felix Miata wrote:
> hw composed on 2024-02-09 12:07 (UTC+0100):
>
> > What other manufacturers could we buy UPSs from?
>
> I bought my first APC just last year, because it was what I found on the
> shelf in
> WalMart, only 450VA, with "Best-in-class Service
On Fri, 2024-02-09 at 11:34 -0500, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote:
> On Friday 09 February 2024 06:07:16 am hw wrote:
> > What other manufacturers could we buy UPSs from?
>
> I have a Tripp-Lite sitting next to me here that replaced an APC and
> has 2-1/2 times the capabiliity. Been in service
On Fri, 2024-02-09 at 06:44 -0500, Dan Ritter wrote:
> hw wrote:
> > On Thu, 2024-02-08 at 15:29 +, Andy Smith wrote:
> > > [...]
> > That sucks. I didn't know that they don't stand behind their
> > products, and it makes APC not recommendable any longer.
> >
> > What other manufacturers
Felix Miata wrote:
> hw composed on 2024-02-09 12:07 (UTC+0100):
>
> > What other manufacturers could we buy UPSs from?
>
> I bought my first APC just last year, because it was what I found on
> the shelf in WalMart, only 450VA, with "Best-in-class Service and
> Support", more to protect
>> What other manufacturers could we buy UPSs from?
> I have a Tripp-Lite sitting next to me here that replaced an APC and has
> 2-1/2 times the capabiliity. Been in service several weeks and so far I'm
> pretty happy with it...
Would they accept a warranty claim without having to run some
hw composed on 2024-02-09 12:07 (UTC+0100):
> What other manufacturers could we buy UPSs from?
I bought my first APC just last year, because it was what I found on the shelf
in
WalMart, only 450VA, with "Best-in-class Service and Support", more to protect
bedroom TV and recorder against
On Friday 09 February 2024 06:07:16 am hw wrote:
> What other manufacturers could we buy UPSs from?
I have a Tripp-Lite sitting next to me here that replaced an APC and has 2-1/2
times the capabiliity. Been in service several weeks and so far I'm pretty
happy with it...
--
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hw wrote:
> On Thu, 2024-02-08 at 15:29 +, Andy Smith wrote:
> > [...]
> That sucks. I didn't know that they don't stand behind their
> products, and it makes APC not recommendable any longer.
>
> What other manufacturers could we buy UPSs from?
Liebert at the high end, CyberPower at the
On Thu, 2024-02-08 at 15:29 +, Andy Smith wrote:
> [...]
> Someone on the apcupsd mailing list thinks I have a faulty UPS or
> battery and should get a replacement.
>
> APC refuses to proceed with a warranty claim because they don't
> support apcupsd or nut, only their own proprietary
On 8 Feb 2024 16:34 -, from cu...@free.fr (Curt):
> I wonder if he could run the app on one of these virtual machines for
> evaluation purposes:
Using an evaluation copy of Windows with USB pass-through might be the
easiest way to run APC's proprietary software.
Or since that's an option,
On 2024-02-08, Charles Curley wrote:
> On Thu, 8 Feb 2024 15:29:21 +
> Andy Smith wrote:
>
>> I do not overly want to buy a Windows licence, run it
>> in a VM and pass USB through to that VM just to try this.
>
> You could try wine. You might need the more recent crossover-office,
> which is
On Thu, 8 Feb 2024 15:29:21 +
Andy Smith wrote:
> I do not overly want to buy a Windows licence, run it
> in a VM and pass USB through to that VM just to try this.
You could try wine. You might need the more recent crossover-office,
which is proprietary (but contributes greatly to wine).
Hello,
On Sun, Jan 28, 2024 at 06:55:04PM +, Andy Smith wrote:
> So, I must admit, I am quite tempted by BX1600MI which would cost me
> about £183. The equivalent spec in the Pro range is more than twice
> this price.
[ TL;DR: While free software like apcupsd or nut support all APC
models
On 1/28/24 13:55, Andy Smith wrote:
Hi,
Thanks, this is very useful.
On Sun, Jan 28, 2024 at 06:58:08PM +0100, hw wrote:
However, stay away from their cheap models as seen on this[1] picture
(Back UPS). They work and you can replace the batteries yourself even
though you're not supposed to.
Hi,
Thanks, this is very useful.
On Sun, Jan 28, 2024 at 06:58:08PM +0100, hw wrote:
> However, stay away from their cheap models as seen on this[1] picture
> (Back UPS). They work and you can replace the batteries yourself even
> though you're not supposed to. It's a minimum basic device. It
On Fri, 2024-01-26 at 15:17 +, Andy Smith wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Fri, Jan 26, 2024 at 04:11:39PM +0100, hw wrote:
> > I've never had issues with any UPS due to self tests. The batteries
> > need to be replaced when they are worn out. How often that is
> > required depends on the UPS and the
On Fri, 26 Jan 2024, David Wright wrote:
On Fri 26 Jan 2024 at 19:03:33 (+0100), Roger Price wrote:
I currently have two Eaton Ellipse ECO 1600's. ... The four screws are deeply
recessed and difficult to see. They have different heads: some are Torx 10,
others are a star.
20/20 hindsight
ghe2001 wrote:
> Take a look at Tripp Lite:
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tripp_Lite
>
> I used them for years to back up a small domain -- they make
> sine-wave electricity.
One of the references in the wikipedia article looked interesting:
On Fri 26 Jan 2024 at 19:03:33 (+0100), Roger Price wrote:
> I currently have two Eaton Ellipse ECO 1600's. I change the batteries
> every 4-5 years, but this is not as easy as it should be. It is not
> evident that only one of the four back panel screws needs to be
> removed. I took me a
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Take a look at Tripp Lite:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tripp_Lite
I used them for years to back up a small domain -- they make sine-wave
electricity.
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Andy Smith composed on 2024-01-26 10:17 (UTC-0500):
> On Fri, Jan 26, 2024 at 04:11:39PM +0100, hw wrote:
>> I've never had issues with any UPS due to self tests. The batteries
>> need to be replaced when they are worn out. How often that is
>> required depends on the UPS and the conditions it
On Fri, 26 Jan 2024, Andy Smith wrote:
Out of interest what brand of UPS do you recommend for home use that
has easily-replaceable batteries every 3–5 years? For a load of
about 300W.
I currently have two Eaton Ellipse ECO 1600's. I change the batteries every 4-5
years, but this is not as
I, too, have always used APC.
I've heard people swear by APC, and I've heard people swear *at* APC.
I've had reason to do both, myself (and I won't elaborate on either).
--
James H. H. Lampert
On Fri, 2024-01-26 at 15:37 +, Michael Kjörling wrote:
> On 26 Jan 2024 15:17 +, from a...@strugglers.net (Andy Smith):
> > Out of interest what brand of UPS do you recommend for home use that
> > has easily-replaceable batteries every 3–5 years? For a load of
> > about 300W.
>
> I would
On 26 Jan 2024 15:17 +, from a...@strugglers.net (Andy Smith):
> Out of interest what brand of UPS do you recommend for home use that
> has easily-replaceable batteries every 3–5 years? For a load of
> about 300W.
I would suggest to look at the free-standing floor-/tower-model APC
_Back-UPS
On Fri, 26 Jan 2024, Andy Smith wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Fri, Jan 26, 2024 at 04:11:39PM +0100, hw wrote:
>> I've never had issues with any UPS due to self tests. The batteries
>> need to be replaced when they are worn out. How often that is
>> required depends on the UPS and the conditions it is
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