Re: Redirect HTTPS with Squid3+Squidguard

2015-03-30 Thread Stefan Monnier
The best thing is to educate your children instead of trying to shelter them from those sites. Why choose or Security in depth Stefan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Re: Redirect HTTPS with Squid3+Squidguard

2015-03-30 Thread Chris Bannister
[Please don't top post. Please trim unnecessary content.] On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 02:29:08PM +0100, Peter Viskup wrote: It's the way you look at. For me it's about prevention...your child can click on some link somewhere and see some pictures/videos which will remain in his/her mind (let's

Re: Redirect HTTPS with Squid3+Squidguard

2015-03-27 Thread Peter Viskup
Unfortunately we are living in real (not ideal) world and there are cases where the SSL split is definitely needed or should be considered at least. For example Squid 3.5 coming with new design of SSLBump allowing to do some inspection of the connection prior the real SSLSplit. That gives you

Re: Redirect HTTPS with Squid3+Squidguard

2015-03-27 Thread Dan Purgert
On Thu, 26 Mar 2015 15:53:04 -0600, Bob Proulx wrote: rog...@queernet.org wrote: Michael Graham wrote: As MITM proxies in school/business seem to be pretty common in the US and the UK. I bet your proxy firewall does it too. I bet not! I think you are confusing https with http. We

Re: Redirect HTTPS with Squid3+Squidguard

2015-03-26 Thread Michael I.
Hello it's me again, thanks for the hint with wget, this was very useful. The problem with not redirect https to an errorpage is not solved but this is okay. It's only a nice to have feature to redirect to an errorpage. But I have a new problem, I want to have a transparent proxy for http

Re: Redirect HTTPS with Squid3+Squidguard

2015-03-26 Thread Sven Hartge
Michael I. linux-michae...@abwesend.de wrote: But I have a new problem, I want to have a transparent proxy for http this works fine but when I add the iptables rule for https the loading won't work. Of course not. That this is not working is the _whole point_ of any end-to-end encrypted

AW: Redirect HTTPS with Squid3+Squidguard

2015-03-26 Thread Sascha Steinmann (adremes GmbH Co KG)
your evenings to make your blacklists up2date. Greetings Sascha -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Reco [mailto:recovery...@gmail.com] Gesendet: Donnerstag, 26. März 2015 13:52 An: debian-user@lists.debian.org Betreff: Re: Redirect HTTPS with Squid3+Squidguard Hi. On Thu, 26 Mar 2015 13:21

Re: Redirect HTTPS with Squid3+Squidguard

2015-03-26 Thread Peter Viskup
Without the SSL splitting the only option is to install some software on the client side. Some endpoint security software doing the inspection of the web data transfers on the fly before they pass the TLS tunnel. It's the same like SSL split on Squid, but let's say more transparent. Unfortunately

Re: Redirect HTTPS with Squid3+Squidguard

2015-03-26 Thread Peter Viskup
] Gesendet: Donnerstag, 26. März 2015 13:52 An: debian-user@lists.debian.org Betreff: Re: Redirect HTTPS with Squid3+Squidguard Hi. On Thu, 26 Mar 2015 13:21:57 +0100 Peter Viskup skupko...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, just jumped into SSLBump/Split features some months ago. I don't find

Re: Redirect HTTPS with Squid3+Squidguard

2015-03-26 Thread Sven Hartge
Michael I. linux-michae...@abwesend.de wrote: Sven Hartge s...@svenhartge.de wrote: Michael I. linux-michae...@abwesend.de wrote: But I have a new problem, I want to have a transparent proxy for http this works fine but when I add the iptables rule for https the loading won't work. Of

Re: Redirect HTTPS with Squid3+Squidguard

2015-03-26 Thread Peter Viskup
Hi, just jumped into SSLBump/Split features some months ago. I don't find these features harmful. Especially when protecting your children from access of YouTube or other possibly harmful sites. Once you are logged with Google account they redirect your communication to https which makes the

Re: Redirect HTTPS with Squid3+Squidguard

2015-03-26 Thread Reco
Hi. On Thu, 26 Mar 2015 13:21:57 +0100 Peter Viskup skupko...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, just jumped into SSLBump/Split features some months ago. I don't find these features harmful. Especially when protecting your children from access of YouTube or other possibly harmful sites. Once you are

Re: Redirect HTTPS with Squid3+Squidguard

2015-03-26 Thread Michael I.
Sven Hartge s...@svenhartge.de wrote: Michael I. linux-michae...@abwesend.de wrote: But I have a new problem, I want to have a transparent proxy for http this works fine but when I add the iptables rule for https the loading won't work. Of course not. That this is not working is the _whole

Re: Redirect HTTPS with Squid3+Squidguard

2015-03-26 Thread Michael I.
Sven Hartge s...@svenhartge.de wrote: Michael I. linux-michae...@abwesend.de wrote: Sven Hartge s...@svenhartge.de wrote: Michael I. linux-michae...@abwesend.de wrote: But I have a new problem, I want to have a transparent proxy for http this works fine but when I add the iptables rule for

Re: Redirect HTTPS with Squid3+Squidguard

2015-03-26 Thread Dan Purgert
On Thu, 26 Mar 2015 08:49:37 -0500, John Hasler wrote: Why don't you just get rid of the computers? I tried that route one time ... got looked at like I had 7 heads for even suggesting that the kids go back to textbooks and paper. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: Redirect HTTPS with Squid3+Squidguard

2015-03-26 Thread Reco
Hi. On Thu, 26 Mar 2015 16:48:00 +0100 Peter Viskup skupko...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Reco, On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 4:13 PM, Reco recovery...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. And just as well child can see a naughty picture on TV. Or a phone ad. Or a magazine/newspaper. Anywhere, once you start

Re: Redirect HTTPS with Squid3+Squidguard

2015-03-26 Thread Sven Hartge
Michael I. linux-michae...@abwesend.de wrote: This are not my children, the filter is used for a school. Aha, important information. Do not proceed any further with breaking encrypted connections or, for the matter, transparently proxiing _any_ connections until you had a talk with a) the

Re: Redirect HTTPS with Squid3+Squidguard

2015-03-26 Thread Michael I.
Hello, for private usage I am think a filter isn't good, children need trust and a filter is the opposite of trust. But in usage for a school I think a filter is better, a teacher can't look on all computers. The kids are trying out thinks in school which is good but when nobody is there to

Re: Redirect HTTPS with Squid3+Squidguard

2015-03-26 Thread Michael Graham
On 26 March 2015 at 14:18, Reco recovery...@gmail.com wrote: Then it's even worse that I thought. I don't know about Germany, but where I live tampering with public communications is considered a criminal offense. I strongly suggest you to seek a legal advice before doing anything like SSL

Re: Redirect HTTPS with Squid3+Squidguard

2015-03-26 Thread rogerk
On 3/26/15 12:42 PM, Michael Graham wrote: On 26 March 2015 at 14:18, Reco recovery...@gmail.com wrote: Then it's even worse that I thought. I don't know about Germany, but where I live tampering with public communications is considered a criminal offense. I strongly suggest you to seek a legal

Re: Redirect HTTPS with Squid3+Squidguard

2015-03-26 Thread Bob Proulx
Michael Graham wrote: Reco wrote: Ow. Exactly which kind of consumer-grade hardware comes with SSL bump preinstalled? That's very interesting to me as I like know which hardware to avoid in the future. It's way more common than you seem to think. CERT recently did a blog post about it

Re: Redirect HTTPS with Squid3+Squidguard

2015-03-26 Thread Sven Hartge
Peter Viskup skupko...@gmail.com wrote: It's the way you look at. For me it's about prevention...your child can click on some link somewhere and see some pictures/videos which will remain in his/her mind (let's say) forever and can harm even if it was only seconds they were seen...I am

Re: Redirect HTTPS with Squid3+Squidguard

2015-03-26 Thread John Hasler
Why don't you just get rid of the computers? -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive:

Re: Redirect HTTPS with Squid3+Squidguard

2015-03-26 Thread Bob Proulx
rog...@queernet.org wrote: Michael Graham wrote: As MITM proxies in school/business seem to be pretty common in the US and the UK. I bet your proxy firewall does it too. I bet not! I think you are confusing https with http. We are talking about https here not http. And even then I

Re: Redirect HTTPS with Squid3+Squidguard

2015-03-26 Thread Reco
Hi. On Thu, 26 Mar 2015 12:44:11 -0700 rog...@queernet.org wrote: On 3/26/15 12:42 PM, Michael Graham wrote: On 26 March 2015 at 14:18, Reco recovery...@gmail.com wrote: Then it's even worse that I thought. I don't know about Germany, but where I live tampering with public communications

Re: Redirect HTTPS with Squid3+Squidguard

2015-03-26 Thread Reco
Hi. On Thu, 26 Mar 2015 18:18:24 +0100 Michael I. linux-michae...@abwesend.de wrote: Hello, for private usage I am think a filter isn't good, children need trust and a filter is the opposite of trust. But in usage for a school I think a filter is better, a teacher can't look on all

Re: Redirect HTTPS with Squid3+Squidguard

2015-03-26 Thread Sven Hartge
Reco recovery...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, 26 Mar 2015 18:18:24 +0100 Michael I. linux-michae...@abwesend.de wrote: for private usage I am think a filter isn't good, children need trust and a filter is the opposite of trust. But in usage for a school I think a filter is better, a teacher

Re: Redirect HTTPS with Squid3+Squidguard

2015-03-26 Thread Michael Graham
On Thu, 26 Mar 2015 17:18 Reco recovery...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. On Thu, 26 Mar 2015 12:44:11 -0700 rog...@queernet.org rog...@queernet.org wrote: On 3/26/15 12:42 PM, Michael Graham wrote: On 26 March 2015 at 14:18, Reco recovery...@gmail.com wrote: Then it's even worse that I

Re: Redirect HTTPS with Squid3+Squidguard

2015-03-26 Thread Peter Viskup
Hello Reco, On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 4:13 PM, Reco recovery...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. And just as well child can see a naughty picture on TV. Or a phone ad. Or a magazine/newspaper. Anywhere, once you start thinking about it. And that's just sad, disturbingly and one of the main reasons of so

Re: Redirect HTTPS with Squid3+Squidguard

2015-03-26 Thread Reco
Hi. On Thu, 26 Mar 2015 14:29:08 +0100 Peter Viskup skupko...@gmail.com wrote: It's the way you look at. For me it's about prevention...your child can click on some link somewhere and see some pictures/videos which will remain in his/her mind (let's say) forever and can harm even if it was

Re: Redirect HTTPS with Squid3+Squidguard

2015-03-24 Thread Sven Hartge
Michael I. linux-michae...@abwesend.de wrote: I tested around a bit with squid3+squidguard and I found out that the redirect works with the Internet Explorer (IE 11). Then I tested some other browser (firefox, chrome, ..) and with all the other browser the redirect didn't work. Is there a

Re: Redirect HTTPS with Squid3+Squidguard

2015-03-24 Thread Bob Proulx
Sven Hartge wrote: Michael I. wrote: I tested around a bit with squid3+squidguard and I found out that the redirect works with the Internet Explorer (IE 11). Then I tested some other browser (firefox, chrome, ..) and with all the other browser the redirect didn't work. Be careful using

Re: Redirect HTTPS with Squid3+Squidguard

2015-03-23 Thread Sven Hartge
Liam O'Toole liam.p.oto...@gmail.com wrote: On 2015-03-23, linux-michae...@abwesend.de linux-michae...@abwesend.de wrote: I thought there is a simple and secure way to redirect to an 'This Site has been blocked' Page for HTTP and HTTPS. But when I must destroy the safety from HTTPS this

Re: Redirect HTTPS with Squid3+Squidguard

2015-03-23 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2015-03-23, linux-michae...@abwesend.de linux-michae...@abwesend.de wrote: Hello Sven and the other, thanks for help. I thought there is a simple and secure way to redirect to an 'This Site has been blocked' Page for HTTP and HTTPS. But when I must destroy the safety from HTTPS this

Re: Redirect HTTPS with Squid3+Squidguard

2015-03-23 Thread linux-michael-i
Hello Sven and the other, thanks for help. I thought there is a simple and secure way to redirect to an 'This Site has been blocked' Page for HTTP and HTTPS. But when I must destroy the safety from HTTPS this isn't an option. It is a nice to have feature in my project, so the user can see

Re: Redirect HTTPS with Squid3+Squidguard

2015-03-23 Thread linux-michael-i
Hello Liam, thanks for the hint, but the error page I get is a browser error page (it's the connection failed error page) and not a squid error page. -- Michael Liam O'Toole liam.p.oto...@gmail.com wrote: On 2015-03-23, linux-michae...@abwesend.de linux-michae...@abwesend.de wrote:

Re: Redirect HTTPS with Squid3+Squidguard

2015-03-23 Thread Michael I.
Hello again, I tested around a bit with squid3+squidguard and I found out that the redirect works with the Internet Explorer (IE 11). Then I tested some other browser (firefox, chrome, ..) and with all the other browser the redirect didn't work. Is there a bug in the Internet Explorer or

Re: Redirect HTTPS with Squid3+Squidguard

2015-03-22 Thread Bob Proulx
Sven Hartge wrote: Michael I. wrote: Is there really no way to redirect https request to an errorpage with squid3+squidguard? Short answer: No, there is not. +1, No there is not for the reasons Sven described. Long answer: The only way is to setup a transparent proxy, intercepting any

Redirect HTTPS with Squid3+Squidguard

2015-03-22 Thread Michael I.
Hello list, I have a problem with my squid3 + squidguard. I can't redirect https requests to an errorpage. When I request a blocked https page it always says the site isn't available. I searched on the internet an there it says, it is an problem with the https protocol because https

Re: Redirect HTTPS with Squid3+Squidguard

2015-03-22 Thread Sven Hartge
Michael I. linux-michae...@abwesend.de wrote: I have a problem with my squid3 + squidguard. I can't redirect https requests to an errorpage. When I request a blocked https page it always says the site isn't available. I searched on the internet an there it says, it is an problem

Re: Redirect HTTPS with Squid3+Squidguard

2015-03-22 Thread Sven Hartge
Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com wrote: Sven Hartge wrote: Michael I. wrote: Is there really no way to redirect https request to an errorpage with squid3+squidguard? Long answer: The only way is to setup a transparent proxy, intercepting any outbound connection and terminating the encryption on