On Sat, 2009-05-16 at 01:41 +0800, Bret Busby wrote:
However, on the web page at
http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq4.html#Multibooting , under the heading
4.8 - Multibooting OpenBSD/i386
is
Only one of the four primary MBR partitions can be used for booting
OpenBSD (i.e., extended partitions
On Sun, 3 May 2009, Neal Hogan wrote:
On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 1:19 PM, Bret Busby b...@busby.net wrote:
On Sat, 2 May 2009, Neal Hogan wrote:
On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 9:30 AM, Douglas A. Tutty dtu...@vianet.ca wrote:
On Sat, May 02, 2009 at 06:27:44AM -0500, Neal Hogan wrote:
FYI - While
On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 12:41 PM, Bret Busby b...@busby.net wrote:
On Sun, 3 May 2009, Neal Hogan wrote:
On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 1:19 PM, Bret Busby b...@busby.net wrote:
On Sat, 2 May 2009, Neal Hogan wrote:
On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 9:30 AM, Douglas A. Tutty dtu...@vianet.ca
wrote:
On
On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 1:19 PM, Bret Busby b...@busby.net wrote:
On Sat, 2 May 2009, Neal Hogan wrote:
On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 9:30 AM, Douglas A. Tutty dtu...@vianet.ca wrote:
On Sat, May 02, 2009 at 06:27:44AM -0500, Neal Hogan wrote:
FYI - While many of the fBSD folks will tout there
On Sun, May 03, 2009 at 07:01:39AM -0500, Neal Hogan wrote:
On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 1:19 PM, Bret Busby b...@busby.net wrote:
On Sat, 2 May 2009, Neal Hogan wrote:
On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 9:30 AM, Douglas A. Tutty dtu...@vianet.ca wrote:
On Sat, May 02, 2009 at 06:27:44AM -0500, Neal Hogan
On Sat, 25 Apr 2009, Michael Pobega wrote:
On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 01:12:35PM +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote:
Check out the FreeBSD handbook at:
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/
It is also available as a pdf which is 1000 pages! It doesn't cover
everything, but it does
On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 3:32 AM, Bret Busby b...@busby.net wrote:
On Sat, 25 Apr 2009, Michael Pobega wrote:
On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 01:12:35PM +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote:
Check out the FreeBSD handbook at:
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/
It is also available as a
On Sat, May 02, 2009 at 06:27:44AM -0500, Neal Hogan wrote:
FYI - While many of the fBSD folks will tout there ports/package
system, I found it to be a pain (especially the upgrade), as did many
others. There has recently been some chatter on their general mailing
list to overhaul how they
Well, the thing about FBSD is that it's users are pretty much all
hobbyists, so the length of a manual is a good thing. If Debian had
documentation of equal or greater length I can only see that as a
strength, not a weakness.
If you count folks like Yahoo as hobbyists.
Last time I looked,
On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 9:30 AM, Douglas A. Tutty dtu...@vianet.ca wrote:
On Sat, May 02, 2009 at 06:27:44AM -0500, Neal Hogan wrote:
FYI - While many of the fBSD folks will tout there ports/package
system, I found it to be a pain (especially the upgrade), as did many
others. There has
On Sat, 2 May 2009, Neal Hogan wrote:
On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 9:30 AM, Douglas A. Tutty dtu...@vianet.ca wrote:
On Sat, May 02, 2009 at 06:27:44AM -0500, Neal Hogan wrote:
FYI - While many of the fBSD folks will tout there ports/package
system, I found it to be a pain (especially the
On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 06:27:03PM +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote:
Peace.
I wish for it every day, my friend. You have no idea.
Whereas in a previous post …
I am serious, and I have access to automatic weapons.
--
Chris.
==
I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one
On Fri, 1 May 2009 20:55:09 +1200
Chris Bannister mockingb...@earthlight.co.nz wrote:
On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 06:27:03PM +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote:
Peace.
I wish for it every day, my friend. You have no idea.
Whereas in a previous post …
I am serious, and I have access to
Paul Johnson wrote:
Osamu Aoki wrote:
I also feel that google tends to rate *.debian.org sites high so you are
likely to see these more than any random blog posts with good reasons
(especially if you have debian in keywords).
I just wish i could get google to stop giving me useless
* Miles Fidelman mfidel...@meetinghouse.net [2009-05-01 09:52:58 -0400]:
As much as I'm a proponent for good manuals, vs. google... you can
always add -ubuntu to your search query
Good point.
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Dave
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Osamu Aoki wrote:
I also feel that google tends to rate *.debian.org sites high so you are
likely to see these more than any random blog posts with good reasons
(especially if you have debian in keywords).
I just wish i could get google to stop giving me useless answers I can't
use revolving
* Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org [2009-04-30 08:41:14 -0700]:
If I wanted
Ubuntu answers, 1) I'd be special in the head to start with
Agreed.
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Actually, since I hadn't even heard of Zim, I did a zim linux google
Images search and it looks like something I should get acquainted with.
Great app with a very active developer who is happy to receive bug
reports and feature requests. Zim has literally changed the way I work
and store
oops. I wanted this to go to the list. darn gmail :(
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 6:13 AM, David Fox dfox94...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 4:56 AM, Miles Fidelman
It's a reference manual, not a getting started book - and like any reference
manual it tries to have everything you might
On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 01:39:18PM EDT, Dotan Cohen wrote:
[..]
You must be using one of the M$ Windows clones as your desktop.
KDE 4.2 at the moment, which is acceptably quick. KDE 3.5.10 on the
same hardware (2 GB RAM, 2 GHz dual core processor, 7200 RPM sata
drive) was sluggish
On Mon,27.Apr.09, 10:24:39, H.S. wrote:
Sure there is, but one has to keep the audience in mind. A beginner or a
person just starting to find introductory information regarding current
linux distros and related applications and programs is best served by
google (the search is very fast and
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 09:59:01PM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:
On Mon,27.Apr.09, 10:24:39, H.S. wrote:
Sure there is, but one has to keep the audience in mind. A beginner or a
person just starting to find introductory information regarding current
linux distros and related applications
On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 01:10:15PM -0400, JoeHill wrote:
Dotan Cohen wrote:
Maybe you forgot how great of an OS Win98 was at the time.
This has to be a joke. Win 98 wasn't even an operating system. It was an
application that ran on top of DOS for pete's sake.
That was a different
On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 11:27:24AM +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote:
Document it all you want. But don't expect Joe Toothbrush to read it
all. If one _wants_ go through pages upon pages of docs to create
something new, that's great and the more the merrier. But if one
_must_ go through the docs to
Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 11:27:24AM +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote:
Document it all you want. But don't expect Joe Toothbrush to read it
all. If one _wants_ go through pages upon pages of docs to create
something new, that's great and the more the merrier. But if one
On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 09:57:40AM -0400, H.S. wrote:
Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
SNIP
I'm one to read the 1000 page book cover-to-cover. That way, I'll
rememeber a significant amount and know exactly where to look when I
need something I don't remember.
Now a days google is a *huge* help
H.S. wrote:
Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 11:27:24AM +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote:
Document it all you want. But don't expect Joe Toothbrush to read it
all. If one _wants_ go through pages upon pages of docs to create
something new, that's great and the more the
Miles Fidelman wrote:
H.S. wrote:
Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 11:27:24AM +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote:
Document it all you want. But don't expect Joe Toothbrush to read it
all. If one _wants_ go through pages upon pages of docs to create
something new, that's great
On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 10:10:13AM -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote:
H.S. wrote:
Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 11:27:24AM +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote:
Now a days google is a *huge* help in this.
There's still something awfully useful and compelling about a serious
H.S. wrote:
Miles Fidelman wrote:
There's still something awfully useful and compelling about a serious
reference manual, all in one place, with a comprehensive
table-of-contents, detailed index, and embedded references.
Sure there is, but one has to keep the audience in mind. A
Miles Fidelman wrote:
H.S. wrote:
Miles Fidelman wrote:
There's still something awfully useful and compelling about a serious
reference manual, all in one place, with a comprehensive
table-of-contents, detailed index, and embedded references.
Sure there is, but one has to keep the
In 49f5c5dc.8070...@meetinghouse.net, Miles Fidelman wrote:
- for Debian, the documentation page (http://debian.org/doc/), lists a
reference manual (http://debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/), detailed
maintainer and developer references, and pointers to general Linux
manuals for Linux Installation
Honestly, I thought Dotan wrote the above in jest and forget the :-).
I certainly did not post in earnest.
I meant it. Two years ago I had to maintain a Win98 machine that ran
some library software - nothing else, no internet - on 64 MB RAM on a
433 MHz processor. The thing flew. It would
On a 650Mhz with 384 MiB RAM laptop, Windows 98 was NOT flying by any
stretch of the imagination.. it was.. hmm.. tolerably sluggish. Unless
you went crazy started opening windows by the handful, of course.
If you did, MTBF was about two hours.
I have seen it run very well on much less
Especially when the problem is that the computer won't boot, or can't
get on the internet to run google...
Keep a LiveCD handy. It's gotten me at least far enough to Google what
I need at least three times in recent memory.
--
Dotan Cohen
http://what-is-what.com
http://gibberish.co.il
--
They call it progress. 95% of what I do with my computer is the same as
what I did on my 486. Progress means that I now need a computer a
thousand times more powerful with five-hundred times more drive space to
do exactly the same thing.
+5 Insightful
I would be very happy with Debian
Dotan Cohen wrote:
Maybe you forgot how great of an OS Win98 was at the time.
It wasn't. It was still a 32-bit multitasking hack sitting on top of
what amounted to a 16-bit version of an 8-bit single-tasking operating
system with no cohesive security controls. It was obsolete when it was
2009/4/27 Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org:
Dotan Cohen wrote:
Maybe you forgot how great of an OS Win98 was at the time.
It wasn't. It was still a 32-bit multitasking hack sitting on top of
what amounted to a 16-bit version of an 8-bit single-tasking operating
system with no cohesive
Chris Jones wrote:
On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 06:12:35AM EDT, Dotan Cohen wrote:
Check out the FreeBSD handbook at:
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/
It is also available as a pdf which is 1000 pages! It doesn't cover
everything, but it does cover a lot. They also
Dotan Cohen wrote:
Check out the FreeBSD handbook at:
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/
It is also available as a pdf which is 1000 pages! It doesn't cover
everything, but it does cover a lot. They also have other books and
articles at
In 87zle4497u@thumper.dhh.gt.org, John Hasler wrote:
Dotan Cohen wrote:
That sounds more like a problem than a solution. I would not try an OS
that had a 1000 page manual. I want simple, not comprehensive.
Then you'd better give up computers. It takes more than 1000 pages to
properly
That sounds more like a problem than a solution. I would not try an OS
that had a 1000 page manual. I want simple, not comprehensive.
Then you'd better give up computers. It takes more than 1000 pages to
properly document any operating system. Try ls /usr/share/man/* | wc.
Document it all
I don't know about their more recent consumer-grade offering but you may
want to take a look at Windows '98. When I got the laptop, it came with
a 20-page or so manual. But then considering the capabilities of the
OS that was probably overkill anyway.
That wrongly assumes anything Windows is
Paul Johnson wrote:
Chris Jones wrote:
On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 06:12:35AM EDT, Dotan Cohen wrote:
Check out the FreeBSD handbook at:
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/
It is also available as a pdf which is 1000 pages! It doesn't cover
everything, but it does
Dotan Cohen wrote:
I don't know about their more recent consumer-grade offering but you may
want to take a look at Windows '98. When I got the laptop, it came with
a 20-page or so manual. But then considering the capabilities of the
OS that was probably overkill anyway.
That
On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 01:12:03AM EDT, Paul Johnson wrote:
Chris Jones wrote:
On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 06:12:35AM EDT, Dotan Cohen wrote:
Check out the FreeBSD handbook at:
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/
It is also available as a pdf which is 1000 pages! It
On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 04:31:17AM EDT, Dotan Cohen wrote:
I don't know about their more recent consumer-grade offering but
you may want to take a look at Windows '98. When I got the laptop,
it came with a 20-page or so manual. But then considering the
capabilities of the OS that was
Because MS-bashing on a Debian-centric list does wonder for promoting
the usage of FOSS software, right?
I'm not promoting anything.
A bit of anti-M$ trolling is always fun and could get the party going.
:-)
I was a Windows admin for a number of years, that company drove me to
Check out the FreeBSD handbook at:
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/
It is also available as a pdf which is 1000 pages! It doesn't cover
everything, but it does cover a lot. They also have other books and
articles at http://www.freebsd.org/docs/books.html.
That
On Thu,23.Apr.09, 00:13:54, Javier Barroso wrote:
It would be awesome seeing all the questions asked here (in this list)
solved with a pointer to our wiki (this would mean there would be a
team which extracts resume from the list and put conclusions in the
wiki, but sure nobody has time for
On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 01:12:35PM +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote:
Check out the FreeBSD handbook at:
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/
It is also available as a pdf which is 1000 pages! It doesn't cover
everything, but it does cover a lot. They also have other books
Hi,
On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 7:28 PM, Andrei Popescu
andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu,23.Apr.09, 00:13:54, Javier Barroso wrote:
It would be awesome seeing all the questions asked here (in this list)
solved with a pointer to our wiki (this would mean there would be a
team which extracts
On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 06:12:35AM EDT, Dotan Cohen wrote:
Check out the FreeBSD handbook at:
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/
It is also available as a pdf which is 1000 pages! It doesn't cover
everything, but it does cover a lot. They also have other books
Dotan Cohen wrote:
That sounds more like a problem than a solution. I would not try an OS
that had a 1000 page manual. I want simple, not comprehensive.
Then you'd better give up computers. It takes more than 1000 pages to
properly document any operating system. Try ls /usr/share/man/* | wc.
Steve Kemp wrote at 2009-04-24 09:08 -0500:
Were my site not already present I'd not start it now - instead I'd
post to the wiki, or other sites. (The wiki is nice, but it isn't
a perfect medium because people cannot post questions, leave comments,
etc. I do think that forum-like sites
Reply to: pob...@fuzzydev.org
Original Message Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 00:08:29 -0400
RE: Re: debiantutorials.org seeks input and new blood [See Original Message
Below]
You misunderstand me. Hearing people say that they would rather contribute to
another source, esp one where they may have
Reply to: hs.sa...@gmail.com
Original Message Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 00:25:39 -0400
RE: Re: debiantutorials.org seeks input and new blood [See Original Message
Below]
Indeed. The Gentoo documentation is the best that I have ever seen as well.
-
On Fri
Indeed. The Gentoo documentation is the best that I have ever seen as well.
I think that you could leverage this. _Don't_ be a documentation site.
Find some other Debian information to specialize in, such as CLI
humour, comparisons between the Debian Way and the
Ubuntu/Fedora/Gentoo/* Way, and
On Fri Apr 24, 2009 at 08:14:52 -0400, machiner wrote:
This list is not exclusive to developers. Many people read it. Sure, I'd
love a
dev or 2, and I clearly asked, to contribute to the site. Why wouldn't I?
But, I'd
be just as happy, and I think the community the site serves would be
On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 12:13:54AM +0200, Javier Barroso wrote:
www.debian.org/usr/share/doc/ or usr.share.doc.debian.org/ where you
could find all docs from debian packages. It would be nice (I think)
aptitude install dwww
Now look at http://localhost/dwww
A site providing that to all
H.S. hs.sa...@gmail.com writes:
Michael Pobega wrote:
On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 07:43:55AM -0400, machiner wrote:
I thought I asked you a question.
There's no reason to be rude. All we're saying is that instead of
running your own site, why not contribute to a pre-existing site? I'm
On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 01:27:32PM EDT, Carl Johnson wrote:
H.S. hs.sa...@gmail.com writes:
Michael Pobega wrote:
On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 07:43:55AM -0400, machiner wrote:
I thought I asked you a question.
There's no reason to be rude. All we're saying is that instead of
running
On Wed, 22 Apr 2009 17:40:11 -0400, machiner wrote in message
20090422174011.4719e...@lapbox:
I'm laughing as I write thisOh my.
..once you're done, Javier Barroso has an excellent proposal. ;o)
--
..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;o)
...with a number of polar
Reply to: a...@c2i.net
Original Message Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 12:13:28 +0200
RE: Re: debiantutorials.org seeks input and new blood [See Original Message
Below]
I thought I asked you a question.
-
On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 12:13:28 +0200 a...@c2i.net wrote
On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 07:43:55AM -0400, machiner wrote:
I thought I asked you a question.
There's no reason to be rude. All we're saying is that instead of
running your own site, why not contribute to a pre-existing site? I'm
personally hoping that one day I can say that Debian's Wiki
Michael Pobega wrote:
On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 07:43:55AM -0400, machiner wrote:
I thought I asked you a question.
There's no reason to be rude. All we're saying is that instead of
running your own site, why not contribute to a pre-existing site? I'm
personally hoping that one day I can say
debiantutorials.org is 4 years old, the blog aspect is new for new Debian
users to
write about their experiences.
The site may have been available, but it was unknown until now.
I'm hearing a lot that the web is already saturated with Debian
documentation, and
you may be right. There
On Wednesday 22 April 2009 04:01:57 H.S. wrote:
Lisi Reisz wrote:
If you are seeking help, it might be worth supplying a URL. The truth of
your
Isn't that in the subject line? Or am I missing something here?
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On Wed, 22 Apr 2009 09:22:29 +0300, Dotan wrote in message
880dece00904212322r17423bees4ef602e95f033...@mail.gmail.com:
debiantutorials.org is 4 years old, the blog aspect is new for
new Debian users to write about their experiences.
The site may have been available, but it was unknown
Reply to: a...@c2i.net
Original Message Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 21:42:04 +0200
RE: Re: debiantutorials.org seeks input and new blood [See Original Message
Below]
AYKM?
http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.howtoforge.comcharset=%28detect+automatically%29doctype=Inlinegroup=0user
On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 7:52 PM, Michael Pobega pob...@fuzzydev.org wrote:
On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 05:45:43PM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:
On Tue,21.Apr.09, 08:58:13, machiner wrote:
Recently I set up a blog for a couple site members and one older
fellow in particular is going gang-busters!
Tue, 21 Apr 2009 08:42:02 -0400
RE:
Hi,
Some of you are familiar with my little tutorial site as I have seen references
from
some of you to articles on the site in my logs. (Thank you for the confidence)
Recently I set up a blog for a couple site members and one older fellow in
particular
is
I seek recommendations for improving the site
1) Under the site name there is not one, but _two_ corny taglines. Get
rid of them until you find a single tagline that is witty and on
topic.
2) Maybe I should have the site translated to Australian? What is
that? Maybe you should, but I as a
On Tue,21.Apr.09, 08:58:13, machiner wrote:
Recently I set up a blog for a couple site members and one older fellow in
particular
is going gang-busters! I would like to expand the site to include any of you
that
can muster up an hour a week or so to write tutorials or articles germain to
Reply to: andreimpope...@gmail.com
Original Message Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 17:45:43 +0300
RE: Re: debiantutorials.org seeks input and new blood [See Original Message
Below]
Fair enough. Thank you for your reply.
--machiner
-
On Tue, 21 Apr 2009 17:45
In a way the OP is spamming the list, but really ...
Is is etiquette to be so nasty about it?
He is clearly a private citizen with a desire to comtribute. That his
attempts fall short of your standards, merely indicates that his request
is justified. I also find a dynamically changing clock a
In a way the OP is spamming the list, but really ...
Is is etiquette to be so nasty about it?
No, it is not etiquette to be nasty. I was helpful and gave him my
suggestions, and further refined ideas with the OP off list. But I do
not want other list members to say hey, Brian got away with it
On Tuesday 21 April 2009 13:58:13 machiner wrote:
I seek recommendations for improving the site as well as new authors,
whether one article or many. Please consider it. The site does very well
in the search engines and it could use some new blood. I would be
thrilled, as would the site's
On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 05:45:43PM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:
On Tue,21.Apr.09, 08:58:13, machiner wrote:
Recently I set up a blog for a couple site members and one older
fellow in particular is going gang-busters! I would like to expand
the site to include any of you that can muster
On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 01:52:05PM EDT, Michael Pobega wrote:
On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 05:45:43PM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:
On Tue,21.Apr.09, 08:58:13, machiner wrote:
Recently I set up a blog for a couple site members and one older
fellow in particular is going gang-busters! I would
Reply to: cjns1...@gmail.com
Original Message Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 19:45:33 -0400
RE: Re: debiantutorials.org seeks input and new blood [See Original Message
Below]
-
On Tue, 21 Apr 2009 19:45:33 -0400 cjns1...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Apr 21, 2009
On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 08:24:59PM EDT, machiner wrote:
Reply to: cjns1...@gmail.com
Original Message Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 19:45:33 -0400
RE: Re: debiantutorials.org seeks input and new blood [See Original Message
Below]
On Tue, 21 Apr 2009 19:45:33 -0400 cjns1...@gmail.com wrote
Lisi Reisz wrote:
If you are seeking help, it might be worth supplying a URL. The truth of
your
Isn't that in the subject line? Or am I missing something here?
--
Please reply to this list only. I read this list on its corresponding
newsgroup on gmane.org. Replies sent to my email
On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 20:01, H.S. hs.sa...@gmail.com wrote:
Lisi Reisz wrote:
If you are seeking help, it might be worth supplying a URL. The truth of
your
Isn't that in the subject line? Or am I missing something here?
In gmail in particular, it can be easy to miss the subject line
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