Re: wheezy after update significant slow

2011-10-04 Thread AlbMilla
On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 16:03, S Scharf ss11...@gmail.com wrote: When I try to downgrade to the stable xserver-xorg-core (1.7.7), it breaks far too many things (nvidia-glx, and a bunch of others), so I abandoned that effort.  But, what do you know, now I'm using Chrome instead of Iceweasel,

Re: wheezy after update significant slow

2011-10-04 Thread S Scharf
Hi After having the xorg problem I downgrade the X in this way. 1_ Add the next debian snapshot repository to the sources.list: deb http://snapshot.debian.org/archive/debian/20110924/ wheezy main contrib non-free 2_ Update the repositories, I got the next error: Release file for

Re: wheezy after update significant slow

2011-10-03 Thread S Scharf
When I try to downgrade to the stable xserver-xorg-core (1.7.7), it breaks far too many things (nvidia-glx, and a bunch of others), so I abandoned that effort. But, what do you know, now I'm using Chrome instead of Iceweasel, and everything now seems to be humming along. So, at least in my

wheezy after update significant slow

2011-10-01 Thread Hans-J. Ullrich
Hello all, I remarked, that after the last update, my system is very very slow. But first of all, please let me explain, what is slow and what I could find out. 1. When iceweasel is started, process Xorg increases to 100 percent and about 2 minutes nothing is working any more. I jknow, this

Re: wheezy after update significant slow

2011-10-01 Thread lina
My Sid one after updating also get retard. Lina On Oct 1, 2011, at 19:23, Hans-J. Ullrich hans.ullr...@loop.de wrote: Hello all, I remarked, that after the last update, my system is very very slow. But first of all, please let me explain, what is slow and what I could find out. 1.

Re: wheezy after update significant slow

2011-10-01 Thread Jörg-Volker Peetz
What is the output of glxinfo | grep render and of grep -E '\((EE|WW)\)' /var/log/Xorg.0.log and of grep abled /var/log/Xorg.0.log ? -- Best regards, Jörg-Volker. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact

Re: wheezy after update significant slow

2011-10-01 Thread Hans-J. Ullrich
Am Samstag, 1. Oktober 2011 schrieb Jörg-Volker Peetz: What is the output of glxinfo | grep render and of grep -E '\((EE|WW)\)' /var/log/Xorg.0.log and of grep abled /var/log/Xorg.0.log ? Hi Jörg-Volker, I know, what you are thinking, but it is no problem with

Re: wheezy after update significant slow

2011-10-01 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sat, 01 Oct 2011, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote: All tests I made, are reproducable. Try also running workload inspectors, one of them might give you a hint or two about the culprit: top (immediate readings) atop (excellent for historic readings and cummulative readings) powertop (interrupt

Re: wheezy after update significant slow

2011-10-01 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2011-10-01 at 13:23 +0200, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote: Hello all, I remarked, that after the last update, my system is very very slow. But first of all, please let me explain, what is slow and what I could find out. 1. When iceweasel is started, process Xorg increases to 100 percent

wheezy after update significant slow

2011-10-01 Thread lina
Sorry, I sent from phone. So just send to you before I realized. Apologize. Begin forwarded message: From: lina lina.lastn...@gmail.com Date: October 2, 2011 0:03:23 GMT+08:00 To: Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net Subject: Re: wheezy after update significant slow On Oct 1, 2011

Re: wheezy after update significant slow

2011-10-01 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2011-10-01 at 21:04 +0800, lina wrote: My Sid one after updating also get retard. Lina Do Hans and you use the nouveau driver? If so, I recommend to use the proprietary or to downgrade X to stable and to use the nv driver. For the Linux audio community this driver is known as

Re: wheezy after update significant slow

2011-10-01 Thread Hans-J. Ullrich
Am Samstag, 1. Oktober 2011 schrieb Ralf Mardorf: On Sat, 2011-10-01 at 21:04 +0800, lina wrote: My Sid one after updating also get retard. Lina Do Hans and you use the nouveau driver? If so, I recommend to use the proprietary or to downgrade X to stable and to use the nv driver. For

Re: wheezy after update significant slow

2011-10-01 Thread Hans-J. Ullrich
Am Samstag, 1. Oktober 2011 schrieb Henrique de Moraes Holschuh: On Sat, 01 Oct 2011, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote: All tests I made, are reproducable. Try also running workload inspectors, one of them might give you a hint or two about the culprit: top (immediate readings) atop (excellent

Re: wheezy after update significant slow

2011-10-01 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 01 Oct 2011 13:23:48 +0200, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote: I remarked, that after the last update, my system is very very slow. But first of all, please let me explain, what is slow and what I could find out. 1. When iceweasel is started, process Xorg increases to 100 percent and about 2

Re: wheezy after update significant slow

2011-10-01 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sun, 2011-10-02 at 00:03 +0800, lina wrote: On Oct 1, 2011, at 23:50, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: On Sat, 2011-10-01 at 21:04 +0800, lina wrote: My Sid one after updating also get retard. Lina Do Hans and you use the nouveau driver? If so, I recommend to use

Re: wheezy after update significant slow

2011-10-01 Thread lina
On Oct 2, 2011, at 0:16, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: On Sun, 2011-10-02 at 00:03 +0800, lina wrote: On Oct 1, 2011, at 23:50, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: On Sat, 2011-10-01 at 21:04 +0800, lina wrote: My Sid one after updating also get retard. Lina

Re: wheezy after update significant slow

2011-10-01 Thread Jörg-Volker Peetz
Hans-J. Ullrich wrote, on 10/01/11 17:19: snip As you see, everything is normal. I am running in mode 1440x900. Best regards Hans Yes, I also see nothing unsusual. If you know that the X-server is eating the cpu-time, try to see what it is doing with strace. As super user command

Re: wheezy after update significant slow

2011-10-01 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sat, 01 Oct 2011, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote: See if you can track down the processes which are causing trouble. That will help narrow down the search. Henrique, I already mentioned it: It is the process Xorg, which hangs. Then you have to look no further than the GPU driver. It can cause

Re: wheezy after update significant slow

2011-10-01 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2011-10-01 at 18:13 +0200, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote: Henrique, I already mentioned it: It is the process Xorg, which hangs. Hm? I locked some packages by Synaptic, not the package xorg, but it anyway currently won't be upgraded, regarding to the packages that are locked/pinned. I've got

Re: wheezy after update significant slow

2011-10-01 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2011-10-01 at 19:05 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Sat, 2011-10-01 at 18:13 +0200, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote: Henrique, I already mentioned it: It is the process Xorg, which hangs. Hm? I locked some packages by Synaptic, not the package xorg, but it anyway currently won't be upgraded,

Re: wheezy after update significant slow

2011-10-01 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2011-10-01 at 19:09 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Sat, 2011-10-01 at 19:05 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Sat, 2011-10-01 at 18:13 +0200, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote: Henrique, I already mentioned it: It is the process Xorg, which hangs. Hm? I locked some packages by Synaptic, not the

Re: wheezy after update significant slow

2011-10-01 Thread Wolodja Wentland
On Sat, Oct 01, 2011 at 13:23 +0200, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote: 7. I reverted to xserver-xorg version before the last one, but although it was a little bit better, it was not good as expected. Reverted from to which version? Which driver (exactly) are you using? How is it installed? Please also

Re: wheezy after update significant slow

2011-10-01 Thread Hans-J. Ullrich
Am Samstag, 1. Oktober 2011 schrieb Wolodja Wentland: On Sat, Oct 01, 2011 at 13:23 +0200, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote: 7. I reverted to xserver-xorg version before the last one, but although it was a little bit better, it was not good as expected. Reverted from to which version? Which driver

Re: wheezy after update significant slow

2011-10-01 Thread Wolodja Wentland
On Sat, Oct 01, 2011 at 20:47 +0200, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote: Am Samstag, 1. Oktober 2011 schrieb Wolodja Wentland: On Sat, Oct 01, 2011 at 13:23 +0200, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote: 7. I reverted to xserver-xorg version before the last one, but although it was a little bit better, it was not good

Re: wheezy after update significant slow

2011-10-01 Thread Hans-J. Ullrich
Hi Wolodja, http://snapshot.debian.org/ I would also recommend to install apt-listbugs and apt-listchanges. Good luck! I already did! And I tested a little bit more. First I downgraded everything to xserver-xorg 1.7.3. Then step-by-step updated again. I could find out, the proble is

Re: wheezy after update significant slow

2011-10-01 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2011-10-01 18:16 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: It could be, that you are using the FLOSS nouveau driver, this driver usually is a PITA. Could you please stop this FUD, or at least back it up with something useful (i.e. bug reports)? There're packages for proprietary NVIDIA drivers. Yes, and

Re: wheezy after update significant slow

2011-10-01 Thread Patrick Wiseman
On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 3:27 PM, Hans-J. Ullrich hans.ullr...@loop.de wrote: Hi Wolodja,     http://snapshot.debian.org/ I would also recommend to install apt-listbugs and apt-listchanges. Good luck! I already did! And I tested a little bit more. First I downgraded everything to

Re: wheezy after update significant slow

2011-10-01 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sun, 2011-10-02 at 00:58 +0800, lina wrote: On Oct 2, 2011, at 0:16, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: On Sun, 2011-10-02 at 00:03 +0800, lina wrote: On Oct 1, 2011, at 23:50, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: On Sat, 2011-10-01 at 21:04 +0800, lina wrote:

Re: wheezy after update significant slow

2011-10-01 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2011-10-01 at 22:39 +0200, Sven Joachim wrote: On 2011-10-01 18:16 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: It could be, that you are using the FLOSS nouveau driver, this driver usually is a PITA. Could you please stop this FUD, or at least back it up with something useful (i.e. bug reports)?

Re: wheezy after update significant slow

2011-10-01 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sun, 2011-10-02 at 04:55 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Sat, 2011-10-01 at 22:39 +0200, Sven Joachim wrote: On 2011-10-01 18:16 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: It could be, that you are using the FLOSS nouveau driver, this driver usually is a PITA. Could you please stop this FUD, or