Re: Problemas con suck+inn
El Tue, Jun 30, 1998 at 03:50:05PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Estoy intentando configurar la recogida y distribucion de las news para una pequeña red local utilizando suck + inn. Ahora mismo, tengo un problema al bajarme los articulos con suck. Al ejecutar get-news parece que baja los articulos, pero luego no es capaz de entregarlos al servidor local. El script me genera la siguiente salida: Elapsed Time = 0 mins 3.71 seconds 191 Articles to download Deduping Elapsed Time = 0 mins 0.01 seconds Deduped, 191 items remaining, 0 dupes removed. Processing History File Elapsed Time = 0 mins 0.00 seconds Processed history, 0 dupes removed Total articles to download: 191 1683404 Bytes received in 11 mins 31.99 secs, BPS = 2432.7 Closed connection to diana.ibernet.es Building Inn Batch File Downloaded Articles You can hang up the modem now Local posting error y deja ficheros pendientes en /var/lib/suck. ¿Alguien sabe que es lo que esta sucediendo? Hola, no se que puede ser, pero yo también uso INN y Suck (3.9.0). Y tambien conecto con diana.ibernet.es. Consigo bajar y subir los artículos aunque la configuración no está del todo 'depurada. Te paso los scripts y ficheros de configuración por e-mail a ver si te son de ayuda. Saludos. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: problema para conectar a Infovia
-Mensaje original- De: Juan Carlos [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Enviado el: jueves 2 de julio de 1998 15:41 Para: Lista Debian Asunto: problema para conectar a Infovia Hola a todos. Una pregunta que hace ya tiempo que queria hacer ;-) ¿Porque cuando 'llamo' a internet con Kppp SIEMPRE es a la segunda? Es decir, pulso conectar y el modem marca . Manda los datos y seguido cuelga y vuelve a marcar consiguiendose la conexion con el servidor. Con 'pon' no me pasa. Esto es el log Hola... Esto me recuerda los problemas que tuve para configurar diald. Este programa se debe utilizar solo para marcar y establecer linea, el resto del protocolo se pasa al pppd. Al principio lo configure para que marcara y estableciera el protocolo, y asi lo hacia, pero al terminar diald, le pasaba los trastos al pppd, y vuelta a empezar, asi que le quite la parte del protocolo ppp, y ahora funciona correctamente: uno marca y el otro lleva el protocolo. El Kppp no lo conozco, pero parece algo similar. Saludos. Angel Vicente Perez Dpto. Informática KNIPPING ESPAÑA S.A. Tfno. +34-1-6070-311 Fax +34-1-6070-331 e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
/var/lib/dpkg/status
Hola! Que he borrado sin querer el /var/lib/dpkg/status y ahora cuando ejecuto el dselect o el dpkg me sale un mensaje que pone: dselect: failed to open package info file `/var/lib/dpkg/status' for reading: No such file or directory He hecho un update desde el dselect para que me baje los paquetes nuevos y tal, pero me sigue dando el mismo error.. que hago? heeelp... -- _ _ __ _ __| |___(_) |__(_) |_ David Ernest [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2:343/[EMAIL PROTECTED] / _` / -_) | '_ \ | _| PGP: C0 03 33 31 46 96 E4 AB C2 8D BC 55 42 E3 9D FC \__,_\___|_|_.__/_|\__| IRC: nyogui -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: /var/lib/dpkg/status (la desesperacion)
On Fri, Jul 03, 1998 at 08:24:03AM -0600, Marcelo E. Magallon wrote: [...] Si eso no sirve, deberias poder construir el archivo a partir de la informacion en info... asi: $ for f in *.list ; do \ paquete=expr $f : '\(.*\)\.list' ; \ echo -en \ Package: $paquete\n \ Status: install ok installed\n \ Priority: extra\n \ Section: foo\n\n ../mi-status ; \ done $ cd .. ; cp mi-status status Te puedes ahorrar Priority: y Section:, pero necesitarás Version: (la puedes sacar del fichero availables, junto con los demás campos salvo Status:). No te hagas ilusiones de que esto sirve porque no lo he probado. Nada mas se que genera una lista parecida a 'status' Con Package, Status y Version, es capaz de mostrar la pantalla de selección de paquetes del dselect. Si se va a la porra después no lo he comprobado. Saludos, -- Enrique Zanardi[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Powerpoint equiv. for Linux?
From: Brian Weiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Shaleh [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Adrian Monk [EMAIL PROTECTED], debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Powerpoint equiv. for Linux? On Mon, 29 Jun 1998, Shaleh wrote: The various office suites for Linux have slide presenters in them. I am fairly sure that both Star Office and Applixware do. There may also be a generic slide tool presenter. However I am sure the GUI lacks a great deal compared to a professional office. These office suites are NOT free, but they are not that expensive either. StarOffice 4.0 is still free. Check out http://www.stardivision.com. I've never tried Applixware but from what I've seen and heard StarOffice is the best Office suite around for Linux. Good luck finding what you need. I downloaded and installed Star Office 4.0. I haven't had much opportunity to study it, but I did find out that it will not load PowerPoint (*.ppt) files. I also checked on word processor files. WinWord 6.0 and 95 are supported, though the files should not have been saved with the Fast Save option. I have received a number of files which I suspect are WinWord 97 for which I got the message no filter available. Also, WordPerfect files are not recognized. In summary, Star Office 4.0 looks like a nice office package, but its interoperability isn't super. The Web site lists Star Office 5.0 features which include filters for Word 97, AmiPro, WordPro, WordPerfect, PowerPoint97, Excel 97, etc., etc. Looks like a nice product but I couldn't tell if it is available yet and how much it costs. One nice thing. It doesn't violate the Debian scheme because it installs in the user's home directory. On a real multi-user system, there is a 'net install' option, for which a deb package should be created, but I suspect that most Debian systems are really single user workstations. Tom Kuiper -- Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (137.79.89.31) SnailMail: Jet Propulsion Lab 169-506, Pasadena, CA 91109 Phone/fax: (818) 354-5623/8895 WWW:http://DSNra.JPL.NASA.gov/~kuiper/ -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
slrnpull + trn?
Can anybody point me to some info on how to get trn to read from the news spool created by slrnpull? I thought trn was capable of reading from a local spool, but the documentation only seems to talk about reading from an NNTP server. Failing that, could anybody tell me how to get _any_ newsreader to read from an slrnpull spool? Including slrn? (I've tried both of the contradictory sets of instructions given in the documentation, but neither seem to work. Haven't had any luck with tin, either.) -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: serial troubles
i suspected the modem too so tried a us robotics (usually have a gdc connected)...both behave the same. seems to be related to warnings at bootup re: PCI ... there is a serial USB controller on IRQ 10 that is one of the PCI devices that isn't recognized (identified by number)... i tried disabling it and manually configuring /etc/rc.boot/0setserial but still get the same behavior. i need info on this PCI bizness. i read the PCI-HowTo but found nothing there of any use the only debian cd i have is 2.0.27 (kernel) think i'll try hamm if i can find a cd...maybe PCI problems have been eliminated best--c On 2 Jul 1998, Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Chea Prince [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: have included serial support in the kernel and on bootup shows serial devices being assigned to /dev/cua0 /dev/cua1 and /dev/ttyS0 /dev/ttyS1 but 'cat /proc/interrupts' shows no serial devices at IRQ 3 4. That's OK; the interrupts are only allocated when the port is actually opened. You see, you can't share interrupts at the same time between devices but 2 devices can use the same interrupt if they are not used at the same time. That's why IRQs are only allocated when used. can dialout fine from minicom but ppp script fails (can't initialize the modem). Smells like a modem problem. Maybe the modem is set to non-echo? Try using the init string from minicom in the ppp script. Mike. -- Miquel van Smoorenburg | Our vision is to speed up time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] | eventually eliminating it. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
smail trouble continues
Well I've now received over 30 calls about this problem, so I can assume that it affects Netscape 3.02 : For some reason my version of smail (3.2.0.101-4.4) will not allow a client to send a message without first issuing a HELO or EHLO command. I've gone through the smail-config and smailconf man pages to no avail. I've also set the following variables in /etc/smail/config to both on and off -smtp_hello_verify +smtp_hello_verify -smtp_hello_verify_literal +smtp_hello_verify_literal +smtp_sender_verify -smtp_sender_verify smtp_hello_broken_allow=* Nothing appears to be working. On a side note all three hosts listed as a MX for debian.org allow me to send a message without first stating HELO or EHLO. I've I can make the switch between MTA's in under five minutes (so I don't disrupt the other 500 users who can send mail) I'll look into switching. I really would like to stick to smail though. If anybody has ANY idea I would appreciate it, right now it looks as though I'll spend the night here until I find a solution : mike... Micro$oft, what do you want to spend today? -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
RIP version in routed?
Hi all! Can anyone tell me what version of RIP is implemented by the routed included in debian? Thanks in advance, Fernando -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
modem setup problem - zoltrix 33600
I am having trouble setting up this modem. I tried the normal settings on this modem, but they won't work. If i'm reading the output from plog correct then it gets stuck waiting for the login name. It does everything before that very slowly but i got it to dial. then i get a first line of 'welcome to ...' which is supposed to be the welcoming line to the ISP. The next line says waiting fot sername: (looking for the line requesting user name input). And then it times out and leaves. Any idea's? _ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: changing/adding/using fonts and ttfonts
On Thu, 2 Jul 1998, Micha Feigin wrote: snip (especially xterm), and if anyone knows if there is an editor, or/and preferable an atachment to xemacs that i can make work from right to left (I also need to be able to set the font to an hebrew one) snip Not sure if this is useful but vim has right to left and keyboard mapping for hebrew. Not sure if it is any good/useful as I've never used it. It needs to be included at compile time. Geoff --- - It's better to die on your feet than live on your knees. (Midnight Oil) - - - - Geoff Saxby [EMAIL PROTECTED] - --- -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
using dselect through ftp
I tried to use dselect through ftp. After setting up the options it logs in to the ftp server and then it couldn't find the directory. I checked and the deirectory was spelled out right. anyone know the problem? _ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
using mail on a debian system (betwin users)
How do i send mail betwin users on my debian system? For now its mainly interest, but anyway. Thanx _ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Powerpoint equiv. for Linux?
StarOffice 4.0 is still free. Check out http://www.stardivision.com. I've I think you mean free for non-commercial use, a term that is very misunderstood. Commercial use goes far beyond having a business with an official name. If you use this product to create signs or compose an advertisement for a 'yard sale' you are violating the terms and are supposed to buy a commercial license. study it, but I did find out that it will not load PowerPoint (*.ppt) files. I also checked on word processor files. WinWord 6.0 and 95 are supported, Even if it loaded a zillion formats, it doesn't appear to give much choice in formats for saving files. You really want to be able to export your work to formats that free software likes to load. One nice thing. It doesn't violate the Debian scheme because it installs in the user's home directory. On a real multi-user system, there is a 'net install' option, for which a deb package should be created, but I suspect that most Debian systems are really single user workstations. I think there are quite a few Debian systems that are used as servers. The difference is basically the number of user accounts created. You want the good multiuser packages for the single user workstation. They prevent non-root users from damaging system stuff. If entire packages get installed in your home directory, you have to be careful what you do (just like when you use Windows) pw -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re[2]: egcs includes
Jason Gunthorpe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think this are old libg++ headers. libg++ is obsolete, don't use it if you can help it. Thanks for the clarification. I was compiling a package whose includes included g the header files in question, so I wasn't free to pick and choose. I guess authors will have to more or less slowly get adjusted to the new scheme of things? -n--e--u--t--r--i--n--of--e--v--e--r--! Bob Bernstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.brainiac.com/bernie at Esmond, R.I. ftp://rupturedduck.dyn.ml.org (sometimes) -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: VCD Player and SB 16 PnP
On Thu, Jul 02, 1998 at 02:09:19PM -0400, Will Lowe wrote: On Thu, 02 Jul 1998, Alex Kwan wrote: (2) My Soundcard was Soundblaster 16 PnP, do I need the isapnptools? If need, how to do it? (My systems is Hamm) Yes, you do need the isapnptools, unless you plan on using loadlin from windows or something wierd like that.. The sound howto will tell you all about how to make it work. You won't need isapnptools if you've got a pnp bios -- it'll take care of the pnp end of things for you. Yes, BUT how will you know what settings the BIOS has assigned it to tell the sound driver? I have a PnP BIOS and still use isapnptools. Windows wouldn't need PnP support if it were this simple. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Debian packages at ftp://ftp.rising.com.au/pub/hamish. PGP#EFA6B9D5 CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome. http://hamish.home.ml.org -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
[URGENT!] smail bombs when sending!
I am having real big problems sending mail with smail as my MDA, which I never had until 2 days ago. When sending mail ( runq -v ) Error 164 is reported: Connection Timed Out I never used to have this problem, but it is really annoying! I am using a smarthost. Versions of relevant stuff: smail: 3.2.0.101-4.4 Hamm, kernel 2.0.33 I have started using fetchmail as a daemon in /etc/ppp/ip-up.d/ and killing it in /etc/ppp/ip-down.d/ , but I have killed that to try it without it, so far no luck... (sorry about bad layout... telnet :) ) Can anyone suggest an answer? If not, can exim rewrite headers for a dialup system (from/sender/etc...)??? If so, can someone send me an example? I can recieve mail fine, just sending is a pain, so I need to get this little problem fixed asap! Thanks for any help anyone can offer, Michael Beattie -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
ne2000 mod
I am having trouble with my ne2000 it was configured properly and running earlier today. i recompiled my kernel and messed it up. had to revert to the old one then recompile it again. the either hasn't worked since. the ne2000 driver is compiled into the kernel i have tried setting the eth0 as follows the error i get is Loading modules: ne can't find module ne lilo.conf append=eth0=0,0,eth0 and /etc/modules #auto ne as well as #auto ne io=0x240, irq=5 anyideas? Thanks babs Thanks, Babs, Your Got.Net PC Tech... http://we.got.net -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
X11 problems on a new install...
I've just installed Debian 2.0, using the 2.0.34 Kernel... Dselected all the X11 stuff, installed it, etc. When I try to run fvwm95(actually, I'd like to use ksh, but fvwm95 was already there, being in the hamm install) I get libXpm.so.4 not found. I tried wm2, and one or two other window managers and get similar lib*.so.* not found errors... Im assuming that I've a bad path statement somewhere, but as this is my first Debian system Im not sure where to look. Any help would be grately appreicated! --Evan --- Evan Van Dyke E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] DNRC's Minister of Lost Internet Packets. O- Amateur Radio Call Sign: KB8PVE Quoth the Raven... 'Nevermore!' --Edgar Allen Poe I'll bet that all you can do is watch the ball bounce around the screen --Dilbert to Management -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: X11 basic configuration files missing with hamm install.
Hi Fellow users! I've encountered the problem too. It couldn't find a readme file in ../include if I'm not mistaken directory. It appears to be a bug, because when I looked into that directory I found that another dir was created inside the .../include .../include/include !! where the mising file was(meanning: .../include/include/README). I copied the file to a directory below, wipeouted the internal include, run config and it just noticed that some files are not where they supposed to be. and then no problems at all. I must be a script bug. Eric wrote: Did anyone else get this problem? Perhaps it should be reported as a bug. Eric. On Thu, 02 Jul 1998, Tom Robertson wrote: Eric, Thanks. That did the trick. Tom On Thu, 02 Jul 1998, Eric wrote: I too got this error, I went and checked out /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb/compiled and saw that there was a subdirectory called compiled there (is that an error in the package?) and it has the README in it. Simply copy the README from /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb/compiled/compiled/README to /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb/compiled/README and it should work. I still do have XF86Setup yell at me a little about missing documentation, but it doesn't bail. Eric. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- _ _ | |(_) | _| | | | |___ | | |__/ | |__/ -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: IDE stopped working
Jaakko Niemi writes: All was good until I changed motherboards. All of a sudden now, the secondary IDE bus does not properly detect the cdrom drive. The screen shows the IDE primary bus as being probed, but no secondary bus. I use LILO to boot. How can I get the kernel (2.0.32) to properly probe/detect the secondary IDE bus? Does the BIOS find your CD ? Yes, The BIOS does properly identify the CDrom Drive. Funny thing , now that I think about it, is that Win95 could not see the secondary IDE bus or the CDROM drive until I loaded a driver under Win95 (supplied by the MB manufacturer). Perhaps the registers for the secondary IDE bus are sufficiently different from the norm that a special driver is needed. -- -= Sent by Debian 1.3 Linux =- Thomas Kocourek KD4CIK @[EMAIL PROTECTED]@westgac3.dragon.com Remove @_@ for correct Email address --... ...-- ... -.. . -.- -.. - -.-. .. -.- -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
LILO: Unexpected EOF?
For the last few months I have been getting this error when using the Microsoft entry of my /etc/lilo.conf: Loading Microsoft Unexpected EOF Loading Microsoft Unexpected EOF Loading Microsoft Unexpected EOF ... until I hit CTRL. This used to work and bring up NT Loader. I know I have reinstalled since then, but why would I get this, and how would I fix it? The relevant conf entry is: image=/dev/hda1 label=Microsoft -- SEGV Homepage: http://www.cgocable.net/~mlepage/ Java Game Engine: http://www.cgocable.net/~mlepage/YAGE/ -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
What's the state of gnome on debian ?
Hi, I am working on a project that uses gtk+. I need some widgets that are found in gnome. However, I was unable to compile myself the gnome. Is the gnome available for hamm ? Or slik ? If for slik, can I install gnome on a hamm system ? Another question would be which are the debian gnome compliant window-managers ? TIA, Ionutz -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Spelling in Netscape 4.05
Hi, I have Netscape Comunicator 4.05 on a hamm system. The hamm is rather old (more than one month), I admit. At the office I have another computer with a similar system instaled from the same CD set. At the office I am able to use spelling in Netscape. Home I cannot do this. Any clue ? TIA, Ionutz -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: [URGENT] smail dies on sending
I have had a problem with smail, and I had solved it... :) my apologies to extra bandwidth... I had better explain myself... It turns out smail could not connect to my smarthost's smtp port, but I could with telnet... bizzarre, but its true. I only now, cannot connect with telnet, so I changed to the slower smtp.* host, not the great, almighty and fast mail.* host.. :) Anyway, turns out now that I cant `fetchmail` mail from the pop server, (well, no mail for mickyb on mail.es.co.nz for about an hour.. even after sending stuff to myself.. (different server should work, a friend does it that way)) but that must be a new technical problem at the ISP's end.. time to do some yelling.. :) Michael Beattie ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) PGP Key available, reply with pgpkey as subject. - WinErr: 016 Error buffer overflow - Too many errors encountered. Additional errors may not be displayed or recorded. - Debian GNU/Linux Ooohh You are missing out! -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Linked against libc5 AND libc6?
Frankly the only solution is to find a libc5 version of everything you need, or a libc6 version of everything you need. Sorry. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: What's the state of gnome on debian ?
Ionut Borcoman at debian wrote: Is the gnome available for hamm ? Or slik ? If for slik, can I install gnome on a hamm system ? The current release .20 of GNOME is waiting in Incoming (things seem slow getting into slink). You can get it from the maintainer's site -- www.jimpick.com. I package Imlib and it too is waiting in Incoming. You can get it from www.livenet.net/~shaleh/software. Another question would be which are the debian gnome compliant window-managers ? I expect a new verion of window maker (.16) and icewm to be coming into slink real soon. Enlightenment will be GNOME compliant and will be in Debian as soon as it is released as version .14. (I package this too) -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: LILO: Unexpected EOF?
SEGV wrote: This used to work and bring up NT Loader. I know I have reinstalled since then, but why would I get this, and how would I fix it? The relevant conf entry is: image=/dev/hda1 label=Microsoft My lilo.conf says: other = /dev/hda1 label = dos table = /dev/hda for the dos / Win95 partition. I don't know if this is useful for NT loader. Ionutz -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
off topic: gimp
Hello Fellow Debian Users! I've noticed that many sites promoting linux and free software point that their site was built by GIMP. can anybody tell me what is GIMP? Where can I get it for a test drive? -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: off topic: gimp
GIMP is a really cool graphics program, and lets you do a lot of the same things Photoshop does. A good place to get started would be the official website, gimp.org. Alexander Gutfraind wrote: Hello Fellow Debian Users! I've noticed that many sites promoting linux and free software point that their site was built by GIMP. can anybody tell me what is GIMP? Where can I get it for a test drive? -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: NCR SCSI - which debian kernel will work
One of my friends just installed Slackware and had the same problem. He used the 2.0.35 kernel but I'm pretty certain you'll be fine with the 2.0.34. I don't know what kernel the latest bo comes with, but you might want to consider hamm, since upgrading from bo to hamm is a considerable pain but a fresh hamm install in ways can be easier than bo, specifically for you with this issue I would imagine. Lee W. Glenn wrote: Hi, After spending many hours last night and today searching the net I found a few references to other people having similar problems to me. (The system hangs on my NCR53c875 SCSI controller when I try boot from the rescue disk to try and install debian bo 1.3.1. Incidently Caldera works...) It appears that the kernel version that is include on the debian CD I have is the issue. Does anyone know were I can get the appropriate kernel and how do I use it to do this installation? Thanks, -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: ftp, telnet ping
I was able to use ftp via ppp with just the base2.0, drv1440, and resc1440 files downloaded and installed. Don't know about telnet or ping. Ed Cogburn wrote: Alex Kwan wrote: I have installed the Base System of Hamm and configured the ppp, can I use ftp, telnet and ping command right now or needed to install other packages to do that. Thank You Those progs are in the netstd package. Install that and the other things it requires (like netbase). -- Ed -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
break download
Hi all, Yesterday evening, I discovered I can stop a ftp download using netscape 4 and disconnect and then reconnect and go on the download at the point I left it. This doesn't work if I leave netscape while disconnected and try to go on the download later. I wonder : - Is there any FTP programm which would permit to stop a download in order to go on later even if the computer have been switch off ? This could be useful for huge files as staroffice... Thanks Franck -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: slrnpull + trn?
On Thu, 2 Jul 1998, Trevor Barrie wrote: Failing that, could anybody tell me how to get _any_ newsreader to read from an slrnpull spool? Including slrn? (I've tried both of the contradictory sets of instructions given in the documentation, but neither seem to work. Haven't had any luck with tin, either.) I use slrn --spool. I can't remember the details, but I know at first I had a lot of trouble to get it to work. If I remember correctly, I, as root, deleted the /var/news/ directory because of trouble getting the correct permissions. Thereafter the slrnpull created the directory with the correct permissions. Johann -- | Johann Spies Windsorlaan 19 | | [EMAIL PROTECTED]3201 Pietermaritzburg | | Tel/Faks Nr. +27 331-46-1310 Suid-Afrika (South Africa) | -- And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you. Ephesians 4:32 -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: [Debian] Running Linux from CD
Joseph Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, Jul 02, 1998 at 03:21:33PM +0200, Niklas H=F6glund wrote: is it possible to run Linux completely from CD. We have created =20 I think older versions of Red Hat supported this. I remember reading something about it on Red Hat 4.2. RH4.2 was said to no longer support this. [...] The message before this one explains how to make a CD with defaults and a throwaway /var and /etc. I think instead I would in order to make this thing not just a demo but actually useful in a place that you can't have Linux (goin' to friend's house, friend has Windoze but I wanna use Linux) I'd have some way to use a loopback filesystem on the HD to save defaults like X settings and such. Could be quite useful. I'll look in to building something to do this if nobody else has once I start working on the Zip version of the same. More will fit on the CD-ROM, but the Zip is more upgradable and I can build the Zip disks custom from a mirror.. =3D There exist plans to include a live filesystem on the contrib CD, for backup/restore purposes. Plans though are early and not much has been done, yet. Jens --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key ID: 2048/E451C639 Jens Ritter Key fingerprint: 5F 3D 43 1E 24 1E CC 48 1E 05 93 3A A7 10 73 37 Nothing works better as it is supposed to. (Steven Chu) -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Lapack question
Hi, How do I use a function from lapack in a C program ? Where are the declaration ? Do I have to make myself the declaration ? A more general question: is there a way to find out what functions are in a lib and what argumenst do they need ? TIA, Ionutz -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Require gnome file
I'm trying to install gnome 0.2 but I've discovered I need a file called libgdk-imlib1. Anyone know where I can get it from? I've tried Jim Picks pages, debian.org the UK SunSite mirror... -- Ian Stuart Medicine Veterinary Medicine Computing Support The University of Edinburgh http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~kiz/ LandRovers - a 50-year-old stop-gap that has become the most successful 4x4 production vehicle in the world. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Config for Laptop display..
I'm trying to get my laptop into 1024 by 768 by 16bit colour (it's currently stuck in 8-bit colour) The Chipset is Chips Technologies CT65550 and it appears to be doing funny things with the clock-line. thanks.. -- Ian Stuart Medicine Veterinary Medicine Computing Support The University of Edinburgh http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~kiz/ LandRovers - a 50-year-old stop-gap that has become the most successful 4x4 production vehicle in the world. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Netscape colors.
Hello all, I did a search through the archives about this and found some posts that said that Netscape will only have colored icons in the toolbar etc. in 16bpp mode. I get black and white with 16bpp, as well as 24 and 32. Why is it that the help section looks fine and is colorful, but nothing else? Is there any definitive answer to this? A long time ago, when I used to run bo, I had the same problem to, but thought Netscape for unix just doesn't have colors. I remember my shock when I saw all these pictures of people's window managers in action with TTF fonts and everything and COLORED netscape, after only spending 200 hours or so using crappy black and white Netscape with jagged fonts. I think I can tackle xfstt with the info in the list archives so far, but what about color? What do I need to do? At least tell me if most of you got colored just by default from the install when you first started up. Thanks, Chris -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
RE: Linux/WinNT dual booting (an idea...)
Kendrick, You might find it a lot easier to use the NT Boot loader to boot your linux partition - I'll be trying this myself soon I'll let you know how it goes - there's a mini howto on the subject You could also try allowing LILO to boot from /dev/hdc1 boot sector (or whatever it's on) and get the NT Bootloader to boot that partition directly - it should work (in theory anyway) (take a look at the mini howto - it has examples of the syntax for boot.ini - it's a bit like the /dev/xxx style) Hope it goes well :) Proinnsais -Original Message- From: Kendrick Myatt [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 02, 1998 8:03 PM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Linux/WinNT dual booting (an idea...) I'm not sure if my plan will work, but hopefully I'll find out this weekend. Feel free to save me the trouble if someone else has already tried this and it doesn't work... Actually I just realized that I may not have time this weekend... but anyway... My first hard drive has DOS and Win98 on it. My second drive had NT5 on it. My third drive has the Debian. NT must control the boot sector on the first drive, so I'm making win98 the default startup and setting it to present menu always. From there I can F4 or choose to boot to DOS which will prompt me with the DOS multi-config menu where I will choose either DOS or to run loadlin and boot linux. With the exception of using the loadlin, all the other parts have been done and work fine to let me into the other 3 OS... Regards, Kendrick -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Please help with IP Aliasing
First of all thanks a lot for your fast help, especially to Craig! firstly, replace all those ifconfig route commands with something like this: i=1 while [ $i -le 254 ] ; do ifconfig eth0:$i XXX.231.206.$i netmask 255.255.255.0 route add -host XXX.231.206.$i eth0:$i $i=$(( $i + 1 )) done Good idea! A lot easier to read that way. From your answers I assume that I really have to setup a virtual interface for every IP address. Isn't there a possibility to map a whole subnet XXX.231.206.everything? I thought I saw that on a system a while ago. It had even more IP addresses assigned to. But it might have been a FreeBSD system. secondly, the route command is optional. How come that I can't reach my own address(es) without a route? Shouldn't it be routed to the gateway, which would send it back to my machine? third: do you *really* need all those aliases configured right now? Nope, but soon. if not, then only configure the ones you actually need, *when* you need them. Why? Does it have any negative effects to have that many interfaces and routes configured? fourth: for a virtual hosting system, it's not terribly difficult to set things up so that the configurations for virtual web, ftp, mail, dns, and ip_aliasing are all controlled from one file. e.g. make a file called /etc/virtual-hosts which contains the following info: I like that idea. I'll probably set things up this way as soon as I have more time again. you can increase this limit by modifying the kernel sources. or start using 2.1 series kernels. Are you saying that 2.1 kernels have this limit set higher or are they using a completely different way of handling this situation? if you've got more than 255 virtual hosts then you probably want another machine to host them on anyway. don't try to make one machine do too much. I am sure linux can handle it. :-) No, seriously, more IP addresses doesn't necessary mean more traffic. It's just that some customers want their own domain which has to be mapped to a separate IP number. Thanks again for your help! Andy. -- Andy Spiegl, University of Technology, Muenchen, Germany E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL: http://www.spiegl.de PGP fingerprint: B8 48 24 7B DB 96 6F 1C D9 6D 8E 6C DB C2 E7 E9 o _ _ _ - __o __o /\_ _ \\o (_)\__/o (_) --- _`\,__`\,__(_) (_)/_\_| \ _|/' \/ -- (_)/ (_) (_)/ (_) (_)(_) (_)(_)' _\o_ ~~~ -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: kern.log: Unable to load interpreter ???
Accorrding to the kernel source, it will generate this error if it tries and fails to load the interpreter for elf binairies. Oh, I see! because you had overloaded the system. (Though that seems a touch weird to me.) But it's probably true. The smail misconfiguration led to lots of smail processes! But I was surprised, too. I thought linux would be smart enough to kill some processes if that happens. Not that it should be really, I did some programming on a low,low spec box in the labs and noticed it a few times ... A good way to reproduce it is to sequentially call malloc with increasingly higher values in a background process. The OS wouldn't crash (at least to my experience) but ... it might be a while recovering even after you kill the offending process *IF* it is possible to kill the process. I had real trouble to do that, because I couldn't log in and then start the killall smail command. How did you manage to kill the processes? Andy. -- Andy Spiegl, University of Technology, Muenchen, Germany E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL: http://www.spiegl.de PGP fingerprint: B8 48 24 7B DB 96 6F 1C D9 6D 8E 6C DB C2 E7 E9 o _ _ _ - __o __o /\_ _ \\o (_)\__/o (_) --- _`\,__`\,__(_) (_)/_\_| \ _|/' \/ -- (_)/ (_) (_)/ (_) (_)(_) (_)(_)' _\o_ ~~~ -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Where is the vfat, dos support in 2.0.34 ????
I just installed 2.0.34-3 source and make config did not mention the DOS flesystems also tried rm .config but they do not show up. kernel compiled and installed just fine and runs flawlessly but of course my mount -t vfat /dev/hdb6 /DATAFILES command failes with ... vfat not supported by the kernel ... linux/fs/filesystems.c mentions them ... What am I doing wrong I would badly need support for vfat and if possible for FAT32 ... Thank you in advance for any help. -- Robert Alexander - IBM Italy work e-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] private : [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Netscape install problems .. please help ???
Where is the Netscape installer package for Communicator 4.05 to be found I tried installing it out of the package system but when I try starting netscape I get a ... could not load libXt.so.6. This file, belonging to the installed xlib6g package, is in /usr/X11R6/lib (actually its a link to libXt.so.6.0). Kernel 2.0.34 on an HAMM system. Thank you very much in advance. Bob Alexander -- Robert Alexander - IBM Italy work e-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] private : [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Debian HAMM LOADLIN booting problems ... any help please ??
I have a Debian Hamm system with kernel 2.0.34 running just fine on my /dev/hdb1. /dev/hda1 is infested by a Win95b system. I copied the /boot/vmlinuz-2.0.34 as vmlinuz to my /dev/hdb6 FAT partition along with loadlin.exe. Boot win95 in DOS mode, goto my d:\loadlin directory and issue my loadlin vmlinuz root=/dev/hdb1 ro The boot starts up but when it gets to the APM BIOS (IBM Thinkpad 760) the system hangs with a protection fault message and a dump of stacks and other info ... Any hope ? Thank you in advance Bob. -- Robert Alexander - IBM Italy work e-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] private : [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Debian Linux booting details
Is there a document which would walk through all the phases and the resources/files used by Debian Linux while booting ??? I went through the usual inittab, /etc/init.d files but some things are probably escaping my attention. Thank you. -- Robert Alexander - IBM Italy work e-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] private : [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Kernel compiling on Debian
2 questions for the cognoscenti : A) I have compiled quite a few kernels on Debian but am not sure I am doing the things in the easiest/cleanest way ... One thing that works flawlessly is installing the source package and then using the make-kpkg command from the kernel-package package. The same source tree used with the usual make menuconfig;make dep;make all;make install does not work Any pointers ? B) What is the cleanest way to experiment with unstable kernels which are not yet packaged (ex. 2.1.xxx) ??? Just unpack them in the /usr/src/linux and use the make-kpkg trick on them and fiddle with my lilo.conf to have both old and new kernels to boot ?? Thank you very much for your help. Bob -- Robert Alexander - IBM Italy work e-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] private : [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Netscape install problems .. please help ???
Hi, I just had to deal with this problem today. Netscape is a libc5 application, and you'll need some packages from section oldlibs. There is a libXt.so.6 in both xlib6g(for libc6) and in xlib6(for libc5, in section oldlibs). After installing xlib6, I don't remember if I got one or two more errors for missing files, I know that one of them was xpm4.7 and that all the packages I needed were in section oldlibs. Now I have running Netscape but it is black and white, and I don't know what to do *sigh*. Chris Robert Alexander wrote: Where is the Netscape installer package for Communicator 4.05 to be found I tried installing it out of the package system but when I try starting netscape I get a ... could not load libXt.so.6. This file, belonging to the installed xlib6g package, is in /usr/X11R6/lib (actually its a link to libXt.so.6.0). Kernel 2.0.34 on an HAMM system. Thank you very much in advance. Bob Alexander -- Robert Alexander - IBM Italy work e-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] private : [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Vim embedded python
Mike Orr hat gesagt: // Mike Orr wrote: [in vim 5.1-0.4] :python import vim Sorry, this command is not implemented :version VIM - Vi IMproved 5.1 (1998 Apr 7, compiled Jun 16 1998 16:49:40) Compiled with (+) or without (-): -python Was there some problem getting vim-with-python to compile, or was it just a feature nobody has asked for yet? I would find it very useful. Well, I wouldn't, because I don't have python installed ;-) But it is very simple to enable python or perl in Vim if you get the source-deb and compile it with all the options you like... I did this with the first Vim5.deb for debian because it didn't have the gui-support enabled that I like so much about Vim. -- a href=http://www.einblick.de/; Frank Barknecht Das Koelner Stadt- und Unimagazin - /a -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Netscape install problems .. please help ???
Yuk Chris, seems we have a problem here ... it relieves me from feeling totally dumb. Anyone could suggest the SAFE way of setting things up for the COLOUR Netscape ??? Thanks. Christopher Barry wrote: Hi, I just had to deal with this problem today. Netscape is a libc5 application, and you'll need some packages from section oldlibs. There is a libXt.so.6 in both xlib6g(for libc6) and in xlib6(for libc5, in section oldlibs). After installing xlib6, I don't remember if I got one or two more errors for missing files, I know that one of them was xpm4.7 and that all the packages I needed were in section oldlibs. Now I have running Netscape but it is black and white, and I don't know what to do *sigh*. Chris Robert Alexander wrote: Where is the Netscape installer package for Communicator 4.05 to be found I tried installing it out of the package system but when I try starting netscape I get a ... could not load libXt.so.6. This file, belonging to the installed xlib6g package, is in /usr/X11R6/lib (actually its a link to libXt.so.6.0). Kernel 2.0.34 on an HAMM system. Thank you very much in advance. Bob Alexander -- Robert Alexander - IBM Italy work e-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] private : [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Robert Alexander - IBM Italy work e-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] private : [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: LILO: Unexpected EOF?
On Fri, Jul 03, 1998 at 01:14:47AM -0400, SEGV wrote: This used to work and bring up NT Loader. I know I have reinstalled since then, but why would I get this, and how would I fix it? The relevant conf entry is: image=/dev/hda1 label=Microsoft Should be other=/dev/hda1 Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Debian packages at ftp://ftp.rising.com.au/pub/hamish. PGP#EFA6B9D5 CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome. http://hamish.home.ml.org -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Where is the vfat, dos support in 2.0.34 ????
Hi, You know Robert, you seem to be experiencing the exact same problems I've been that I've overcome in the past 2 days with my hamm install. I posted to the list about this specific filesystem support thing in the past 48 hours or so and got a ton of replies. You need to enable the 'nls' (native languages support) option during make config, make menuconfig, whatever and then all the msdos, vfat etc. filesystems will magically appear. I think they should more clearly label this by making all of these a sub-group of nls and using the '--' that they do with the other sub-groups, so that you know it leads to more options. Chris Robert Alexander wrote: I just installed 2.0.34-3 source and make config did not mention the DOS flesystems also tried rm .config but they do not show up. kernel compiled and installed just fine and runs flawlessly but of course my mount -t vfat /dev/hdb6 /DATAFILES command failes with ... vfat not supported by the kernel ... linux/fs/filesystems.c mentions them ... What am I doing wrong I would badly need support for vfat and if possible for FAT32 ... Thank you in advance for any help. -- Robert Alexander - IBM Italy work e-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] private : [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: NCR SCSI - which debian kernel will work
On Fri, Jul 03, 1998 at 12:42:52AM -0700, Christopher Barry wrote: One of my friends just installed Slackware and had the same problem. He used the 2.0.35 kernel but I'm pretty certain you'll be fine with the 2.0.34. I don't know what Must have been a 2.0.35 pre-release, or an error; finger @linux.kernel.org [linux.kernel.org] The latest stable version of the Linux kernel is: 2.0.34 The latest *beta* version of the Linux kernel is: 2.1.108 Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Debian packages at ftp://ftp.rising.com.au/pub/hamish. PGP#EFA6B9D5 CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome. http://hamish.home.ml.org -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Where is lapack-dev ?
Hi, I've downloaded some time ago the hamm. Now I need the lapack-dev, but it is nowhere between my downloaded files. I do not have for the moment a full connection so I do not know if it is still missing or no. Can somebody be so kind and tell me if it is back and at what ftp address does it have (for ftp-by-email) ? Is anybody packing c++/lapack++ ? How to link lapack to my c/c++ programs ? I've try something but got ld errors (actually I've forced the instalation of lapack-dev from bo which depends on libc5-dev, but got a lot of ld errors). Can I use lapack-dev from bo till I get lapack-dev from hamm ? TIA, Ionutz -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: ran autoup, need deselect clarification
Young, Ed wrote: Thanx for the fast reply. Are you saying that if I just do ACCESS, UPDATE, and INSTALL it may add packages that I don't already have and that this is dangerous? And that if I run SELECT I can check out what is proposed and eliminate unecessary packages from the install? Or in other words, I can SELECT to be sure that I only upgrade and solidify the upgrade with the minimum packages before adding any more packages, but once this is done I can add whatever? I'm not realy confident that I would be able to identify which packages are unecessary so unless it is realy dangerous, I'm inclined to just run ACCESS, UPDATE, and INSTALL if you think that's OK. Although I've been using Debian since 1.2 I still feel a little on the whole package methods. Thanx again, Ed No its not dangerous to let dselect do what it wants just potentially tedious, if you have to babysit a few hours of unnecessary downloading. deselect will try to pick stuff that you might not need on your system. Some of this stuff (like emacs) is very large and would considerably add to a ftp download. This is what the previous responder was warning you about. As long as you don't try to de-select a package labeled as 'required' or 'important' you shouldn't create a problem for yourself, if you preview (and prune) what dselect wants to get. -- Ed -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Assigning an address to my PCMCIA card. HOW ?
I have a portable with an eth0 and a tr0 device properly configured. I have upgraded from BO to HAMM. I now manually give the proper ifconfig and route commands out of a batch file to configure them. I used to have an /etc/pcmcia/network.opts file in which I gave the desired values and the thing configured itself upon booting ... How should I proceed ??? Thank you and I promise that I will stop flloding the group for today 8- -- Robert Alexander - IBM Italy work e-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] private : [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: NCR SCSI - which debian kernel will work
Must have been a pre-release then. The Slackware 3.5 CD has v2.0 and v2.1 directories, and he was about to install the latest 2.1, until I explained that 2.1 series are developmental, so he went to the 2.0 directory and installed the newest one in there, which was a 2.0.35, because I told him it would be safe. (I hope it will be safe :) Chris Hamish Moffatt wrote: On Fri, Jul 03, 1998 at 12:42:52AM -0700, Christopher Barry wrote: One of my friends just installed Slackware and had the same problem. He used the 2.0.35 kernel but I'm pretty certain you'll be fine with the 2.0.34. I don't know what Must have been a 2.0.35 pre-release, or an error; finger @linux.kernel.org [linux.kernel.org] The latest stable version of the Linux kernel is: 2.0.34 The latest *beta* version of the Linux kernel is: 2.1.108 Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Debian packages at ftp://ftp.rising.com.au/pub/hamish. PGP#EFA6B9D5 CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome. http://hamish.home.ml.org -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: VCD Player and SB 16 PnP
Hamish Moffatt wrote: On Thu, Jul 02, 1998 at 02:09:19PM -0400, Will Lowe wrote: On Thu, 02 Jul 1998, Alex Kwan wrote: (2) My Soundcard was Soundblaster 16 PnP, do I need the isapnptools? If need, how to do it? (My systems is Hamm) Yes, you do need the isapnptools, unless you plan on using loadlin from windows or something wierd like that.. The sound howto will tell you all about how to make it work. You won't need isapnptools if you've got a pnp bios -- it'll take care of the pnp end of things for you. Yes, BUT how will you know what settings the BIOS has assigned it to tell the sound driver? I have a PnP BIOS and still use isapnptools. Windows wouldn't need PnP support if it were this simple. Hamish On my system, the PnP card is initialized to the same values every time (whatever default values the card prefers), so once you know what it initializes to after the first bootup, you can safely predict what it will initialize to subsequently. On systems with multiple PnP cards that conflict in their preferred configurations things might be more complicated. -- Ed -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: serial troubles
Chea Prince wrote: i suspected the modem too so tried a us robotics (usually have a gdc connected)...both behave the same. seems to be related to warnings at bootup re: PCI ... there is a serial USB controller on IRQ 10 that is one of the PCI devices that isn't recognized (identified by number)... i tried disabling it and manually configuring /etc/rc.boot/0setserial but still get the same behavior. i need info on this PCI bizness. i read the PCI-HowTo but found nothing there of any use the only debian cd i have is 2.0.27 (kernel) think i'll try hamm if i can find a cd...maybe PCI problems have been eliminated best--c On 2 Jul 1998, Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Chea Prince [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: have included serial support in the kernel and on bootup shows serial devices being assigned to /dev/cua0 /dev/cua1 and /dev/ttyS0 /dev/ttyS1 but 'cat /proc/interrupts' shows no serial devices at IRQ 3 4. That's OK; the interrupts are only allocated when the port is actually opened. You see, you can't share interrupts at the same time between devices but 2 devices can use the same interrupt if they are not used at the same time. That's why IRQs are only allocated when used. can dialout fine from minicom but ppp script fails (can't initialize the modem). Smells like a modem problem. Maybe the modem is set to non-echo? Try using the init string from minicom in the ppp script. Mike. -- Miquel van Smoorenburg | Our vision is to speed up time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] | eventually eliminating it. I remember some PCI errors showing up during boot with older kernels that were eliminated in later kernel versions(2.0.32+ ?), but, of course, I can't tell whether this applies to your situation. What exacly does 'can't initialize the modem' mean? I had a file permission problem with the /etc/chatscript/provider script that caused pppd to freeze when it tried to use the chatscript. What does the end of the ppp.log look like? Use plog to see this. -- Ed -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: using dselect through ftp
On 3 Jul 1998 03:37:23 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Micha Feigin) wrote: I tried to use dselect through ftp. After setting up the options it logs in to the ftp server and then it couldn't find the directory. I checked and the deirectory was spelled out right. anyone know the problem? Yes Ido. I don't know if it's exactly the same problem but mine is like this : I give the options ( server, directories etc etc ) Dselect connects to the server and gets the information about the packages. Then there is the problem, the information about the packages is on my system but when I try to download the files dselect is complaining about no such file or directory. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Current Mirrors? Was deselect wont ftp
Young, Ed wrote: I'll be surfing the mirrors looking for one which has some recent dates on the files. Seems that the most current is June 27th or so. Can you recommend one? What do you mean Using dselect with the apt method on a mirror which supports http is quite fast.? I'm pretty confused about quit a bit of stuff. Was deselect upgraded in the autoup.sh session to now use apt? Or do I need to add it...?? Still not sure what the apt method is. I've got alot of docs on this upgrade but still haven't figured that out. I see that it is the command line method of the new package manager, but I've got no real usage other than run apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade. I believe I also have to install it first anyway, unless it was installed in the autoup.sh session. Guess I have the weekend to figure out some of this... Thanx again for the help. Yeah its a little confusing. apt will eventually replace dselect, but right now it has no GUI or full-screen interface like dselect. It does have a command-line interface that implements the newer, better 'get' routines. Now there are 2 ways you can use apt. When you install apt (look in ftp.debian.org/debian/project/experimental for the latest apt .deb package), apt not only installs itself as an executable (apt-get) it also installs itself as a new access method for dselect. When you next run dselect, you'll see apt listed under the access methods, along with 'cdrom', 'ftp', e.t.c. To use this new method, you first must setup /etc/apt/sources.list. Here are some example entries: deb ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian frozen main contrib non-free deb ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian slink main contrib non-free -- Ed -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: using mail on a debian system (betwin users)
Micha Feigin wrote: How do i send mail betwin users on my debian system? For now its mainly interest, but anyway. Thanx Do you have a mail transport agent like smail/exim installed? If so, use a mail program like 'mutt' to send from one user to another. The address of your 'users' is [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Ed -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: X11 problems on a new install...
Evan Van Dyke wrote: I've just installed Debian 2.0, using the 2.0.34 Kernel... Dselected all the X11 stuff, installed it, etc. When I try to run fvwm95(actually, I'd like to use ksh, but fvwm95 was already there, being in the hamm install) I get libXpm.so.4 not found. I tried wm2, and one or two other window managers and get similar lib*.so.* not found errors... Im assuming that I've a bad path statement somewhere, but as this is my first Debian system Im not sure where to look. Any help would be grately appreicated! --Evan Make sure '/usr/X11R6/lib' is in /etc/ld.so.conf. If it isn't, add it and run ldconfig. Are you sure you installed the libc6 version of X11 (got it from hamm distribution right)? -- Ed -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
debian for public stations
I am new to the list and am investigating some options for configuring our publically accessible PCs. Through various upgrades and other developments we are also assembling a growing base of 486DX stations with 16 MB RAM. One option we are exploring is to use debian on these units. Linux has smaller requirements than windows and might make it possible to get some additional mileage out of this equipment. Has anyone put together a minimally configured and locked-down system with debian ? I am running a graphical java application and some x-windows applications. art --- Art Rhyno, Systems Librarian Leddy Library, University of Windsor Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: (519) 253-4232, EXT. 3163 FAX: (519) 973-7076 WWW: http://www.uwindsor.ca/library/leddy/people/art.html -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: break download
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Is there any FTP programm which would permit to stop a download in order to go on later even if the computer have been switch off ? This could be useful for huge files as staroffice... use the reget command in ftp or use `wget -c' -- Oliver Elphick[EMAIL PROTECTED] Isle of Wight http://www.lfix.co.uk/oliver PGP key from public servers; key ID 32B8FAA1 I will say of the LORD, He is my refuge and my fortress; my God, in him will I trust. Psalms 91:2 -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: off topic: gimp
Alexander Gutfraind wrote: Hello Fellow Debian Users! I've noticed that many sites promoting linux and free software point that their site was built by GIMP. can anybody tell me what is GIMP? Where can I get it for a test drive? Debian packages: $ dpkg -l | grep gimp hi gimp0.99.29-1 The layers-based, non-Motif GNU Image Manipu hi gimp-data-extra 0.99a-1An extra set of brushes, palettes, and gradi ii gimp-nonfree0.99.29-1 GIF and TIFF support for the GNU Image Manip hi libgimp10.99.29-1 Libraries necessary to run the GIMP -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /de v/null -- Oliver Elphick[EMAIL PROTECTED] Isle of Wight http://www.lfix.co.uk/oliver PGP key from public servers; key ID 32B8FAA1 I will say of the LORD, He is my refuge and my fortress; my God, in him will I trust. Psalms 91:2 -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Where is the vfat, dos support in 2.0.34 ????
Robert Alexander wrote: I just installed 2.0.34-3 source and make config did not mention the DOS flesystems also tried rm .config but they do not show up. kernel compiled and installed just fine and runs flawlessly but of course my mount -t vfat /dev/hdb6 /DATAFILES command failes with ... vfat not supported by the kernel ... linux/fs/filesystems.c mentions them ... What am I doing wrong I would badly need support for vfat and if possible for FAT32 ... Thank you in advance for any help. -- Robert Alexander - IBM Italy work e-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] private : [EMAIL PROTECTED] In menuconfig, under FileSystems, when you turn on Native Language Support you'll see the other options for DOS/WIN. -- Ed -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Netscape install problems .. please help ???
Christopher Barry wrote: Hi, I just had to deal with this problem today. Netscape is a libc5 application, and you'll need some packages from section oldlibs. There is a libXt.so.6 in both xlib6g(for libc6) and in xlib6(for libc5, in section oldlibs). After installing xlib6, I don't remember if I got one or two more errors for missing files, I know that one of them was xpm4.7 and that all the packages I needed were in section oldlibs. Now I have running Netscape but it is black and white, and I don't know what to do *sigh*. Chris Robert Alexander wrote: Where is the Netscape installer package for Communicator 4.05 to be found I tried installing it out of the package system but when I try starting netscape I get a ... could not load libXt.so.6. This file, belonging to the installed xlib6g package, is in /usr/X11R6/lib (actually its a link to libXt.so.6.0). Kernel 2.0.34 on an HAMM system. Thank you very much in advance. Bob Alexander -- Robert Alexander - IBM Italy work e-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] private : [EMAIL PROTECTED] There is a libc6 version of NS Professional v4.05 on home.netscape.com. Look near where the other versions are but look for a subdir named 'development' instead of 'shipping'. The name of the tarfile will have 'glibc2' in its name. -- Ed -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Lapack question
I == Ionut Borcoman at debian [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I Hi, How do I use a function from lapack in a C program ? Where I are the declaration ? Do I have to make myself the declaration I ? I use the cfortran header file from this location ftp://zebra.desy.de/cfortan to build prototypes for BLAS and Lapack functions. I have a wrapper library (CHRLIB) for much of BLAS and some of Lapack at this location: http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~chrislee/chrlib/ There is also a Guile wrapper for this library (G-CHRLIB) at the same location. Information about BLAS and Lapack can be found here: http://www.psc.edu/general/software/packages/blas/blas.html http://www.psc.edu/general/software/packages/lapack/lapack.html I A more general question: is there a way to find out what I functions are in a lib and what argumenst do they need ? bash$ nm {libfilename} -- Christopher Lee http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~chrislee [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
SCSI Disk Farm
I volunteer assistance at several local schools in our rural district and we have been very successful in setting up debian linux-based servers that employ apache, squid, netatalk (for mac file sharing), and samba (for windows file and printer sharing). This success has lead us to experiment with 'electronic portfolios' in which kids create a multimedia record of things they create over the school year. We are just starting to burn CD's for each of them so they can take their portfolios home (and we can archive their work). However, it looks like we need to allocate .5-1 GB per kid for working storage...2500 kids in 7 schools...200-1000GB per school... Additionally, we have set up a very successful film/video/animation program at the high school which is expanding there and being introduced at lower grades - it has higher per student working storage requirements. At any rate, we want to pilot a debian-based disk farm at the high school, particularly to support the video program in the fall. I am thinking of building a system based on a dual PII BX motherboard, e.g. Supermicro, and then stringing a lot of SCSI disks on it, I guess in 1 or 2 separate enclosures... I would like to use RAID 5, maybe with the raidtools package (?). The system will NOT be used for video capture, instead students will work on local machines and use the server to store and retrieve their current work. I will tweak the network infrastructure accordingly with switches and 100MB links. I'd like this system to handle 100-200GB. Does anyone have any pointers or words of wisdom about this? We are always looking for the cheapest alternative, but management time is expensive and this data is valuable, so I am preferring a BIG SCSI server solution over the herd of smaller IDE-based servers we currently use. Michael Laing -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Where is lapack-dev ?
On Fri, Jul 03, 1998 at 10:21:26AM +, Ionut Borcoman at debian wrote: From: Ionut Borcoman at debian [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, I've downloaded some time ago the hamm. Now I need the lapack-dev, but it is nowhere between my downloaded files. I do not have for the moment a full connection so I do not know if it is still missing or no. Can somebody be so kind and tell me if it is back and at what ftp address does it have (for ftp-by-email) ? I believe it was only recently recompiled for libc6 (just before code freeze). Try ftp://ftp.debian.org/pub/debian/hamm/hamm/binary-i386/devel/ lapack-dev_2.0.1-2.1.deb Is anybody packing c++/lapack++ ? How to link lapack to my c/c++ programs ? lapack-dev is a fortran library. The consequence of this is that on Linux, Irix, and perhaps other systems you need to call function_() instead of function(), and pass all values by address. For example: Matrix Matrix::invert() { int n=4,ipiv[4],info; float work[4]; sgetrf_(n,n,m,n,ipiv,info); // float m[4][4] sgetri_(n,m,n,ipiv,work,n,info); return *this; } Lapack++ hasn't been packaged yet, but would be welcome. The successor, NTL, might be a better time investment. http://math.nist.gov/tnt/ I've try something but got ld errors (actually I've forced the instalation of lapack-dev from bo which depends on libc5-dev, but got a lot of ld errors). Can I use lapack-dev from bo till I get lapack-dev from hamm ? I used the old lapack-dev for a while in a mixed libc5/libc6 environment, but wouldn't suggest trusting it for production work. If you compile with the libc5 gcc-altdev package it should be safe. -- Dr. Drake Diedrich, Research Officer - Computing, (02)6279-8302 John Curtin School of Medical Research, Australian National University 0200 Replies to other than [EMAIL PROTECTED] will be routed off-planet -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: modem setup problem - zoltrix 33600
I am having trouble setting up this modem. I tried the normal settings on this modem, but they won't work. If i'm reading the output from plog correct then it gets stuck waiting for the login name. It does everything before that very slowly but i got it to dial. then i get a first line of 'welcome to ...' which is supposed to be the welcoming line to the ISP. The next line says waiting fot sername: (looking for the line requesting user name input). And then it times out and leaves. Any idea's? Looks like the login string sent to your modem from ISP and one you are waiting for are different. Dial thru minicom and see what login string you get.. Something like 'Login Name ' or 'Username:'... Change the chatscript to this string... Best of luck, Vaidhy -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: debian for public stations
I am new to the list and am investigating some options for configuring our publically accessible PCs. Through various upgrades and other developments we are also assembling a growing base of 486DX stations with 16 MB RAM. One option we are exploring is to use debian on these units. Linux has smaller requirements than windows and might make it possible to get some additional mileage out of this equipment. Has anyone put together a minimally configured and locked-down system with debian ? I am running a graphical java application and some x-windows applications. If by minimal you mean 486DX with 16 MB RAM, I am running a AMD486DX4 100 MHz system at home and it does work nicely with X11. I compile stuff, program, edit, use TeX and XFig with it. If you want to do heavy computational stuff or graphics manipulation, it is a bit slow though. Eric -- E.L. Meijer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) | tel. office +31 40 2472189 Eindhoven Univ. of Technology | tel. lab. +31 40 2475032 Lab. for Catalysis and Inorg. Chem. (TAK) | tel. fax+31 40 2455054 -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Single-user vs multi-user ystem configuration suggestion
[Perhaps this should go to the devel list, but I don't subscribe to it (yet).] This is about Debian's sometimes not-complete configuration on the grounds that a multi-user system shouldnot enable bells for all users. I think that users would be better served if this behaviour were optional. When some packages are installed (e.g. AUCTeX), they are not enabled. While enabling them may involve an easy step (e.g. adding `(require 'tex-site)' to ~/.emacs), the new users who want to try-out the package may waste a lot of time figuring this out (and led them to believe that Win98 is easier to setup than Debian). The new users may also have just installed 100 packages with dselect and have trouble keeping track of all these tweaks that must be done by hand. I understand that on some Debian systems that are setup for multi-user use, the admin may not want to force his or her choice on every user. But what if the initial configuration of Debian had a /etc/debian-configure-as file (or any other name) that said as single-user or as multi-user. If single-user configuration were selected, then all pacakges like AUCTeX could assume it safe and preferable to fully install themselves, making the end-user's job much easier. Sorry to pick on AUCTeX as an example, I'm sure other packages suffer from this limit also. But AUCTeX is so good that I want users to be able to try it out easily. I'm also interested in making a few deb packages of my own to setup some Emacs stuff (font-latex, bib-cite, etc) to make them easier to try-out and use, but there's not point since that would break current policy. :-( -- AUCTeX reference: Noel Yap [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about the AUCTeX configuration: Debian [should] put (require 'tex-site.el) in /etc/emacs/site-start.el or to have the package itself put a symlink to tex-site.el in /etc/emacs/site-start.d/. This is the default behavior of tm and vm. And the reply came back from the AUCTeX maintainer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The Debian AUC TeX package currently works the way it does because Debian is a multi-user operating system. A system administrator may want to make it available to her users without forcing /all of them/ to use it by default: every user could decide it by himself, adding `(require 'tex-site)' to his ~/.emacs if he wants to. Should the system administrator want to have it loaded by default for all her users, she would only have to add `(require 'tex-site)' to the system-wide /etc/emacs/site-start.el. The whole story is documented in /usr/doc/auctex/README.Debian. -- Peter Galbraith, research scientist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maurice Lamontagne Institute, Department of Fisheries and Oceans Canada P.O. Box 1000, Mont-Joli Qc, G5H 3Z4 Canada. 418-775-0852 FAX: 775-0546 6623'rd Linux user at the Linux Counter -- http://counter.li.org/ -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Powerpoint equiv. for Linux?
Tom wrote, I downloaded and installed Star Office 4.0. I haven't had much opportunity to study it, but I did find out that it will not load PowerPoint (*.ppt) files. It will handle a single version of powerpoint, and nothing before. Version 7, I think. HOwever, it lost all the pictures . . . -- These opinions will not be those of ISU until it pays my retainer. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: VCD Player and SB 16 PnP
On Thu, 02 Jul 1998, Alex Kwan wrote: (2) My Soundcard was Soundblaster 16 PnP, do I need the isapnptools? If need, how to do it? (My systems is Hamm) Yes, you do need the isapnptools, unless you plan on using loadlin from windows or something wierd like that.. The sound howto will tell you all about how to make it work. You won't need isapnptools if you've got a pnp bios -- it'll take care of the pnp end of things for you. The pnp bios does not help with for example AWE 64. --j -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: SCSI aic7890 on-board-adapter (Asus P2B-LS)
On Thu, 2 Jul 1998, Niels V. Pedersen wrote: If somebody know how to get a scsi cdrom drive working with the debian dist. plz mail back. P.S. have read the SCSI-HOWTO from LDP at the sunsite-chain. Hmmm, mount -tiso9660 /dev/scd0 /wherever should do the trick... Unless, you don't have SCSI compiled into your kernel or modularized: For Debian you can activate SCSI module support by modprobe aic7xxx which should take care of all the modules needed. Bye, /(__ __|\ Lars Steinke, Research Student @ (\/ __)_www.fmf.uni-freiburg.de, Germany ) (_ / for PGP PKey and WWW-Page finger /___/[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
netscape 4.05
Hi I had installed Netscape 4.05 and setting up things but I cant running netscape to excute itself. it looks nothing How do user run the netscape to execute? -- Cheers K.Y.Lo Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
distribution HOWTO
Hi all, I just had a peek at the linux distribution HOWTO at http://sunsite.unc.edu/mdw/HOWTO/Distribution-HOWTO.html. The debian entry is about debian 1.3 and last updated 13 March 1997. Wouldn't it be a good idea that someone sent the maintainer a little something about the 2.0 beta? Also, debian is listed under the title `American Linux Distributions'. Although this is probably formally true, it doesn't seem to convey the right spirit. I used to think that debian is located on the internet, rather than in America, and essentially is an international organisation. Maybe we should make a remark on that too? Does anyone have any statistics on the different nationalities of the developpers/package maintainers? Eric Meijer -- E.L. Meijer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) | tel. office +31 40 2472189 Eindhoven Univ. of Technology | tel. lab. +31 40 2475032 Lab. for Catalysis and Inorg. Chem. (TAK) | tel. fax+31 40 2455054 -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: [Debian] Running Linux from CD
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, Jul 02, 1998 at 09:44:50AM +0200, Nico De Ranter wrote: is it possible to run Linux completely from CD. Probably yes, if a system has sufficient RAM. One would have to combine some things: [snip] 8 MB's are perfectly fine for this. I used a setup of a 4MB ramdisk and a lifefilesystem on CD for the Eagle Linux m68k installation routine. With only 8 MB you can't run without swap, but that can be on a native partition (i.e. no need to repartition the drive). With 12 MB I'm able to run bash and other small programms without swap. I would think the average ram in a computer nowadays would be 16 - 32 MB ram, more for better systems. With that starting X without swap could even be possible. May the Source be with you. Mrvn -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: [Debian] Running Linux from CD
Joseph Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Jul 02, 1998 at 03:21:33PM +0200, Niklas Höglund wrote: is it possible to run Linux completely from CD. We have created I think older versions of Red Hat supported this. I remember reading something about it on Red Hat 4.2. RH4.2 was said to no longer support this. They didn't have space for it anymore. It'd be an interesting thing to set up to give people at LUG meetings. It's kinda what I wanted to do with a Zip disk.. Bring me a Zip disk and I'll give you a working Linux system that doesn't use any HD space. I used a 30 MB Linux on a zip for some time here at university. Not fast, but far better than using NT. :) Since zips are rw, one can just install a normal Debian on it. The message before this one explains how to make a CD with defaults and a throwaway /var and /etc. I think instead I would in order to make this thing not just a demo but actually useful in a place that you can't have Linux (goin' to friend's house, friend has Windoze but I wanna use Linux) I'd have some way to use a loopback filesystem on the HD to save defaults like X settings and such. I'm working on it. I also want to have the CD exported via nfs and possibly have other machines boot via nfs. All one would need to show how Linux work in a network is one CD and one bootdisk. Using some loopback device to store data is also in my mind, especially for swap. I heard that swap might not be on a MSDos filesystem. Is that still true and what is the reason? Could be quite useful. I'll look in to building something to do this if nobody else has once I start working on the Zip version of the same. More will fit on the CD-ROM, but the Zip is more upgradable and I can build the Zip disks custom from a mirror.. = Do you have a script to build the zip? Can you mount the zip ro to simulate a CD? May the Source be with you. Mrvn -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Debian Linux booting details
Robert Alexander [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is there a document which would walk through all the phases and the resources/files used by Debian Linux while booting ??? I went through the usual inittab, /etc/init.d files but some things are probably escaping my attention. Thank you. /etc/rcS.d/README might be of help. May the Source be with you. Mrvn -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
RE: Linux/WinNT dual booting (an idea...)
My experience is: install NT first, then install Linux, run LILO to modify MBR (add a dos option as usual). After reboot, I got LILO prompt first. If I select dos, NT boot loader came up, there you can select NT or win95. This is quite different from what has been described in those mini HOWTOs. So I suspect that although MS claim to modify MBR, but in fact they just modify the boot sector of the active partition. Correct me if I'm wrong 'cause I'm not the expert. Note: my first partition on first HD is a DOS (vfat) partion. I use it to hold those ntldr, boot.ini, ntdetect.com etc. Dennis -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Support
Hello Friends, I've installed debian linux in my computer, but ,, I got the Base1_3.tgz , and I don't know that i do with this file .. whats can I do ? and more .. Debian linux have not X windows system ? Have i that got the x in the net ? Please , sorry if my english ins't good .. because I'm brasilian ... and my team play today !!! :-)) Romilson -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Require gnome file
Yes, it is still sitting in Debian's Incoming so if the Debian mirror you use has Incoming you can grab it from there. Otherwise I keep a copy on my website. Go to www.livenet.net/~shaleh/software. Grab all the imlib 1-11 files. Ian Stuart wrote: I'm trying to install gnome 0.2 but I've discovered I need a file called libgdk-imlib1. Anyone know where I can get it from? I've tried Jim Picks pages, debian.org the UK SunSite mirror... -- Ian Stuart Medicine Veterinary Medicine Computing Support The University of Edinburgh http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~kiz/ LandRovers - a 50-year-old stop-gap that has become the most successful 4x4 production vehicle in the world. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: debian for public stations
A DX66 was my first Linux box. Runs fine, however I think you will Java rather unhappy. It will work, but it will load and change SLOWLY. But otherwise, you should not have any problems. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Can't connect to slashdot.org
For the past few days, I have been unable to connect to slashdot.org using either lynx or 'telnet slashdot.org http'. Actually, I can connect; I just don't recieve any data. I haven't had trouble with any other WWW sites. Any ideas as to what might be wrong? Thanks, Adam Klein -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Can't connect to slashdot.org
HAHAHAHAHA Ok, now that that is said. slashdot.org's founder Rob Malda is in the process of moving. And as we all know once you do not have time to work on something -- it breaks. the DNS server has had problems the last few days. It is functional now, but will more than likely be coming up and down. And ummm, like, it is just a web site. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
autoup.sh by ftp
Is there an address where I can get autoup.sh and the other files necessary for updating by ftp? Hans Ehrbar -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: autoup.sh by ftp
*-Hans Ehrbar ( 3 Jul) | | Is there an address where I can get autoup.sh and the | other files necessary for updating by ftp? | Check http://www.debian.org/news#19980624 for a list of sites. Brian -- Mechanical Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] Purdue University http://www.ecn.purdue.edu/~servis -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Support
*-Romilson Carvalho ( 3 Jul) | Hello Friends, | I've installed debian linux in my computer, but ,, | I got the Base1_3.tgz , and I don't know that i do with this file .. | | whats can I do ? Check out the following for the full instructions Debian 1.3 ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/bo/main/disks-i386/current/install.html or Debian 2.0beta ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/hamm/main/disks-i386/current/install.html | | and more .. Debian linux have not X windows system ? | Have i that got the x in the net ? Yes, Debian has the XFree86 system. When you run the Debian package selection tool, dselect, look in the x11 sections. Read the following also: Debian 1.3: ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/bo/main/disks-i386/current/dselect.beginner.8.html or Debian 2.0beta ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/hamm/main/disks-i386/current/dselect.beginner.html Have fun, Brian -- Mechanical Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] Purdue University http://www.ecn.purdue.edu/~servis -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Netscape install problems .. please help ???
seems we have a problem here ... it relieves me from feeling totally dumb. Anyone could suggest the SAFE way of setting things up for the COLOUR Netscape ??? Thanks. Now I have running Netscape but it is black and white, and I don't know what to do *sigh*. This wouldn't be the 24bpp bug? Netscape in 24bpp gets black/white icons... Switch X to 16 or 32 bpp and see if that works better... /Michael -- | Linux: Turn on...Tune in...Fork out... | | Michael Tempsch, member of Ballistic Wizards, TIP#088, POG#130, PPIG#11 | | [EMAIL PROTECTED]|hotmail.com] [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | Cell.Phone:+46 705487554 URL:http://www.dtek.chalmers.se/%7Ed1temp | -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: [Debian] Running Linux from CD
On Fri, Jul 03, 1998 at 05:34:06PM +0200, Brederlow wrote: They didn't have space for it anymore. It'd be an interesting thing to set up to give people at LUG meetings. It's kinda what I wanted to do with a Zip disk.. Bring me a Zip disk and I'll give you a working Linux system that doesn't use any HD space. I used a 30 MB Linux on a zip for some time here at university. Not fast, but far better than using NT. :) Since zips are rw, one can just install a normal Debian on it. Debian wouldn't install in 30 megs. I think I'll try for 60-70. I'm working on it. I also want to have the CD exported via nfs and possibly have other machines boot via nfs. All one would need to show how Linux work in a network is one CD and one bootdisk. Using some loopback device to store data is also in my mind, especially for swap. I heard that swap might not be on a MSDos filesystem. Is that still true and what is the reason? There'd be no reason for loopback filesystem for swap... Linux can handle a swapfile. I don't see why it would matter to Linux if the thing was on fat since fat is owned by root traditionally.. Other than that you can't set the permissions to 640 for the thing.. That'd constitute a security risk, but one I think would be manageable if you mount the FAT partition securely. Could be quite useful. I'll look in to building something to do this if nobody else has once I start working on the Zip version of the same. More will fit on the CD-ROM, but the Zip is more upgradable and I can build the Zip disks custom from a mirror.. = Do you have a script to build the zip? Can you mount the zip ro to simulate a CD? No. I'll prolly hack the boot floppies images to do the same and then do what they do with other packages to make a super rescue disk first. WHen I have that figured out, I'll look into more complex things like having the small installation on it. Loading Linux on this thing is not likely gonna be easy. I'm thinking that the kernel will load a ramdisk image and use the proc filesystem to find the Zip drive. Once it does that it can use the thing normally in theory. = We'll see. I only have the SCSI model so I can only do the original SCSI and parallel port versions. When people see how I do it, they're welcome to send me info on how to do the same with the Zip Plus SCSI, the same with the Zip Plus parallel driver, and the IDE models.. For an idea of how I'm gonna ID this thing, each disk Linux sees on my IDE bus is listed in /proc/ide/.. In there I have ide0/ and ide1/, but I also have hda and hdc, symlinks to inside those devices.. So, I can find my hard drive by looking for WDC in /proc/ide/hd?/model. When I get the new SCSI cables I should be able to do the same with the SCSI bus and I -KNOW- what the SCSI Zip drive's ID is. That kind of thing will help me ID the drive by the device name Linux uses, which should let me access it fine. You won't likely need to do all of that for a CD-ROM. Certainly, you'd not be able to. The only reason I'm able to is that there aren't many models of Zip drive out there to contend with. pgpVy193ORWvc.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: autoup.sh by ftp
*-Hans Ehrbar ( 3 Jul) | | Hello Brian, | | thanks for your prompt reply. I have been trying the URL | you gave me, http://www.debian.org/news#19980624, and I | checked through the whole directory tree of ftp.debian.org | but I haven't found autoup.sh anywhere where it is | accessible per ftp. I lost quite a bit of time over it, and ftp.debian.org is not mentioned in the above URL as a place to get the autoup.sh script. | perhaps others might be interested too how to get it per ftp | instead of per www. If you could post the precise | ftp address to the list i think this would be useful for | others too. | | | Hans Ehrbar. From: http://www.debian.org/news#19980624, 1.autoup.sh - This is a script that will upgrade the programs in the correct order, even download the deb's for you. Because of the continuing changes to the archive, a tar archive of the packages that were available at the time autoup.sh was last released is provided. Versions are available at: the current site http://www.taz.net.au/autoup/ http://debian.vicnet.net.au/autoup/ http://www.uk.debian.org/autoup/ (ftp: also okay) So ftp://www.uk.debian.org/autup/ will also work. I aslo check debian.vicnet.net.au for ftp and I found you can also access it via ftp, i.e. ftp://debian.vicnet.net.au/autoup/ will work also. Hope this helps, Brian -- Mechanical Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] Purdue University http://www.ecn.purdue.edu/~servis -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
installing, bad primary partition fatal error
I tried installing debian 1.3 after downloading it from the website. I made a rescue floppy and attempted an install from DOS with loadlin (1.6). From loadlin, I got the following message during the install process (but before configuring the monitor or keyboard): Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 01:00 I was then able to boot back into DOS/Win95. (I have 8M ram and a 285M IDE hard drive.) I then attempted to boot/install Linux from the rescue disk. The following error occured when I was adding partitions (after configuring monitor and keyboard): I tried a few more times each way with the same results (FATAL ERROR for rescue floppy and Kernel panic for loadlin). Can someone please help me figure out what to do? -- Avalon __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Can't Copy 161 MB
What I need to do is change one of my Debian (version 1.3) partitions into 2 separate partitions. There is presently 161 MB of files in hda6 (the partition I want to subdivide) and on my Windows half of the computer in Drive D: (hda5) I have 190MB of free space. I figured the thing to do is copy all the files on hda6 into hda5(my D: drive), repartition hda6 into hda6 + hda7 (I should use the rescue disk for this?), and then copy back my files from 'D:' on to 'hda6', leaving hda7 empty for future use. (I thought I read in one of the previous mailings that there is software that makes these steps unnecessary. Is this true?) Anyway, when I tried to do this: 'mount hda5 /mnt' go to 'D:/Debfiles' directory 'cp -a /usr/*' (hda6) I got the error message 'no more space left on device'. Furthermore, now when I boot up, my hda2 partition (where my /root is) shows 0 space available. When I halt or reboot I get the message: 'error can't write to etc mtab.tmp, no space left on device' Looking around I found 1 file '/proc/kcore' which had 16 MB and everything elso in '/proc' had 0 bytes. To fix the first problem, of all my space gone in hda2, I am tempted to just delete the 'proc/kcore' file. Is this the wrong thing to do? The second problem is to copy the 161 MB in hda6 to D:. I went back to D: and deleted and moved some stuff around and now have 240MB free, which should be plenty of room. But when I try again am I going to have the same problem? Is my limiting factor the size of hda2 (my root partition) or does the 'etc/mtab.tmp' file have a maximum capacity? Since I only have ~20MB free on hda2, is that the limit of what I can copy between partitions? * I have another problem, which I believe is a separate issue. When I first booted up the computer, (BEFORE trying to copy the 161MB) I noticed a huge file ('root/core' 21MB) that wasn't there yesterday. The last thing I've done is install the CoffeeShop Java IDE (from SFS Software) in my '/home/dixon' directory. (The instructions appeared to say that this was the proper place for it.) I also noticed a 339KB file '/etc/core'. Are these files necessary? Should they be there? Thanks for any help someone might have. Dennis Dixon P.O. Box 1896 Fort Bragg, CA 95437 (707) 964-2979 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.dixonadvise.com -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Linked against libc5 AND libc6?
Hmm ... ok, that makes sense. When I do an ldd on erpcd on a libc5 system it only says it's linked against libc5 ... and libdb is linked against libc6 on hamm systems. tesla:/usr/annex # ldd erpcd libdb.so.2 = /lib/libdb.so.2 libc.so.5 = /lib/libc.so.5 tesla:/usr/annex # cat /etc/debian_version 1.3 Any way out of this mess? I don't have a libc5 version of libdb 2 ... I had to make a rather ugly hack to get this to run on the bo system :) Well, you could take the libdb.so.2 you built on the bo system and stick it in /usr/lib/libc5-compat on the hamm system (don't forget to run ldconfig after). The loader is intelligent in the way that if there are two copies of the library, it will link in the one which uses the same version of libc as the binary. Then perhaps you should petition someone to do a libc5 version of DB 2 for the oldlibs section. Regards, /Anders -- -- Of course I'm crazy, but that doesn't mean I'm wrong. Anders Hammarquist | Mud at Kingdoms| [EMAIL PROTECTED] NetGuide Scandinavia | telnet kingdoms.se 1812| Fax: +46 31 50 79 39 http://www.netg.se | | Tel: +46 31 50 79 40 -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Can't Copy 161 MB
Ok, /proc DOES NOT EXIST on your filesystem. It is what is called a virtual filesystem. It looks like files, acts like files, but it does not actually contain files on your hard drive. /proc/kcore is the contents of the kernel's core memory. It is not real and is not taking up space on your hard drive. Next, any file named core is a left over from a segmentation fault: core dumped. You can safely remove any file name core. Perhaps you mistyped in your last message, but it should be cp file to copy destination. You did not list a destination last time. Could have been a problem. Also, if /tmp is on a full partition then that could be limiting you as well. Try moving the files over directories at a time. Like 'cp -R /usr/X11R6 /mnt/Debfiles/usr'. That may help. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Support
Romilson Carvalho [EMAIL PROTECTED] asked: I got the Base1_3.tgz , and I don't know that i do with this file .. If you don't need this file, you can throw it away. If ther is useful material in the file, try the command tar -xzf Base1_3.tgz to unpack this file. and more .. Debian linux have not X windows system ? Look in /debian/hamm/main/binary-i386/x11 of the debian distribution Regards, Paul Huygen -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
PGP compiliation problems
I've been having some serious trouble getting PGP to compile in hamm. On a freshly untarred PGP source tree, I do everything that setup.doc tells me to: (from /usr/src/pgp, logged in as root) cd rsaref/install/unix make cd /usr/src/pgp/src make linux Making rsaref gives me no errors, but the 'make linux' complains a lot. It compiles all the singular source files fine, but when it gets to the 'gcc -o pgp pgp.o crypto.o ...' it spews forth many undefined references such as: crypto.o: In function 'read_mpi' : /usr/src/pgp/src/crypto.c:627: undefined reference to 'P_SETP' Most of these are undefined references to P_SOMETHING's, they appear in various .o's. Also, towards the end I get a bunch of undefined references from _zmatch.o to various _something functions. I've compiled various other things and haven't had any problems. Anyone got any ideas? Thanks, Eric. -- _ _ | |(_) | _| | | | |___ | | |__/ | |__/ -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null