Re: Problemas con suck+inn

1998-07-03 Thread Cosme Perea Cuevas
El Tue, Jun 30, 1998 at 03:50:05PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Estoy intentando configurar la recogida y distribucion de las news para
 una pequeña red local utilizando suck + inn.
 Ahora mismo, tengo un problema al bajarme los articulos con suck. Al
 ejecutar get-news parece que baja los articulos, pero luego no es capaz
 de entregarlos al servidor local.
 El script me genera la siguiente salida:
 
 Elapsed Time = 0 mins 3.71 seconds
 191 Articles to download
 Deduping Elapsed Time = 0 mins 0.01 seconds
 Deduped, 191 items remaining, 0 dupes removed.
 Processing History File Elapsed Time = 0 mins 0.00 seconds
 Processed history, 0 dupes removed
 Total articles to download: 191
 1683404 Bytes received in 11 mins 31.99 secs, BPS = 2432.7
 Closed connection to diana.ibernet.es
 Building Inn Batch File
 Downloaded Articles
 You can hang up the modem now
 Local posting error
 
 y deja ficheros pendientes en /var/lib/suck.
 
 ¿Alguien sabe que es lo que esta sucediendo?
 
  Hola,
  
  no se que puede ser, pero yo también uso INN y Suck
  (3.9.0). Y tambien conecto con diana.ibernet.es. Consigo
  bajar y subir los artículos aunque la configuración no
  está del todo 'depurada.
  
  Te paso los scripts y ficheros de configuración por
  e-mail a ver si te son de ayuda.
  
  Saludos.
  


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RE: problema para conectar a Infovia

1998-07-03 Thread Angel Vicente Perez
 -Mensaje original-
 De:   Juan Carlos [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Enviado el:   jueves 2 de julio de 1998 15:41
 Para: Lista Debian
 Asunto:   problema para conectar a Infovia

 Hola a todos.
 Una pregunta que hace ya tiempo que queria hacer ;-)
 ¿Porque cuando 'llamo' a internet con Kppp SIEMPRE es a la segunda? Es
 decir, pulso conectar y el modem marca . Manda los datos y seguido
 cuelga y vuelve a marcar consiguiendose la conexion con el servidor.
 Con 'pon' no me pasa.
 Esto es el log

Hola...

Esto me recuerda los problemas que tuve para configurar diald. Este programa se 
debe utilizar solo para marcar y establecer linea, el resto del protocolo se 
pasa al pppd. Al principio lo configure para que marcara y estableciera el 
protocolo, y asi lo hacia, pero al terminar diald, le pasaba los trastos al 
pppd, y vuelta a empezar, asi que le quite la parte del protocolo ppp, y ahora 
funciona correctamente: uno marca y el otro lleva el protocolo. El Kppp no lo 
conozco, pero parece algo similar.

Saludos.

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/var/lib/dpkg/status

1998-07-03 Thread Deibit

   Hola!

   Que he borrado sin querer el /var/lib/dpkg/status y ahora cuando ejecuto el 
dselect o el dpkg me sale un mensaje que pone:

   dselect: failed to open package info file `/var/lib/dpkg/status' for 
reading: No such file or directory

   He hecho un update desde el dselect para que me baje los paquetes nuevos y 
tal, pero me sigue dando el mismo error.. que hago? heeelp...

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Re: /var/lib/dpkg/status (la desesperacion)

1998-07-03 Thread Enrique Zanardi
On Fri, Jul 03, 1998 at 08:24:03AM -0600, Marcelo E. Magallon wrote:
[...]
 Si eso no sirve, deberias poder construir el archivo a partir de la
 informacion en info... asi:
 
 $ for f in *.list ; do \
  paquete=expr $f : '\(.*\)\.list' ; \
  echo -en \
Package: $paquete\n \
Status: install ok installed\n \
Priority: extra\n \
Section: foo\n\n  ../mi-status ; \
   done
 $ cd .. ; cp mi-status status

Te puedes ahorrar Priority: y Section:, pero necesitarás Version: (la puedes
sacar del fichero availables, junto con los demás campos salvo Status:).
 
 No te hagas ilusiones de que esto sirve porque no lo he probado. Nada mas se
 que genera una lista parecida a 'status'

Con Package, Status y Version, es capaz de mostrar la pantalla de
selección de paquetes del dselect. Si se va a la porra después no lo he
comprobado.
 
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Re: Powerpoint equiv. for Linux?

1998-07-03 Thread Tom Kuiper
 From: Brian Weiss [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Shaleh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: Adrian Monk [EMAIL PROTECTED], debian-user@lists.debian.org
 Subject: Re: Powerpoint equiv. for Linux?
 
 On Mon, 29 Jun 1998, Shaleh wrote:
 
  The various office suites for Linux have slide presenters in them.  I am
  fairly sure that both Star Office and Applixware do.  There may also be
  a generic slide tool presenter.  However I am sure the GUI lacks a great
  deal compared to a professional office.  These office suites are NOT
  free, but they are not that expensive either.
  
 StarOffice 4.0 is still free. Check out http://www.stardivision.com. I've
 never tried Applixware but from what I've seen and heard StarOffice is the
 best Office suite around for Linux. Good luck finding what you need.
 
I downloaded and installed Star Office 4.0.  I haven't had much opportunity to 
study it, but I did find out that it will not load PowerPoint (*.ppt) files.  
I also checked on word processor files.  WinWord 6.0 and 95 are supported, 
though the files should not have been saved with the Fast Save option. I 
have received a number of files which I suspect are WinWord 97 for which I got 
the message no filter available. Also, WordPerfect files are not recognized.

In summary, Star Office 4.0 looks like a nice office package, but its 
interoperability isn't super.

The Web site lists Star Office 5.0 features which include filters for Word 97, 
AmiPro, WordPro, WordPerfect, PowerPoint97, Excel 97, etc., etc.   Looks like 
a nice product but I couldn't tell if it is available yet and how much it 
costs.

One nice thing.  It doesn't violate the Debian scheme because it installs in 
the user's home directory.  On a real multi-user system, there is a 'net 
install' option, for which a deb package should be created, but I suspect that 
most Debian systems are really single user workstations.

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slrnpull + trn?

1998-07-03 Thread Trevor Barrie
Can anybody point me to some info on how to get trn to read from the news
spool created by slrnpull? I thought trn was capable of reading from a local
spool, but the documentation only seems to talk about reading from an NNTP
server.

Failing that, could anybody tell me how to get _any_ newsreader to read
from an slrnpull spool? Including slrn? (I've tried both of the 
contradictory sets of instructions given in the documentation, but neither
seem to work. Haven't had any luck with tin, either.)


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Re: serial troubles

1998-07-03 Thread Chea Prince

i suspected the modem too so tried a us robotics (usually have a gdc
connected)...both behave the same.  seems to be related to warnings at
bootup re: PCI ... there is a serial USB controller on IRQ 10 that is one
of the PCI devices that isn't recognized (identified by number)... i tried
disabling it and manually configuring /etc/rc.boot/0setserial but still
get the same behavior.  i need info on this PCI bizness.  i read the
PCI-HowTo but found nothing there of any use

the only debian cd i have is 2.0.27 (kernel)  think i'll try hamm
if i can find a cd...maybe PCI problems have been eliminated

best--c

On 2 Jul
1998, Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote:

 In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
 Chea Prince [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 have included serial support in the kernel and on bootup shows serial
 devices being assigned to /dev/cua0 /dev/cua1 and /dev/ttyS0
 /dev/ttyS1 but 'cat /proc/interrupts' shows no serial devices at
 IRQ 3  4.
 
 That's OK; the interrupts are only allocated when the port is actually
 opened. You see, you can't share interrupts at the same time between
 devices but 2 devices can use the same interrupt if they are not used
 at the same time. That's why IRQs are only allocated when used.
 
 can dialout fine from minicom but ppp script fails
 (can't initialize the modem).
 
 Smells like a modem problem. Maybe the modem is set to non-echo? Try using
 the init string from minicom in the ppp script.
 
 Mike.
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smail trouble continues

1998-07-03 Thread ...

Well I've now received over 30 calls about this problem, so I can
assume that it affects Netscape 3.02 :  For some reason my version of
smail (3.2.0.101-4.4) will not allow a client to send a message without
first issuing a HELO or EHLO command.  I've gone through the smail-config
and smailconf man pages to no avail.  I've also set the following
variables in /etc/smail/config to both on and off
-smtp_hello_verify
+smtp_hello_verify
-smtp_hello_verify_literal
+smtp_hello_verify_literal
+smtp_sender_verify
-smtp_sender_verify
smtp_hello_broken_allow=*

Nothing appears to be working.  On a side note all three hosts
listed as a MX for debian.org allow me to send a message without first
stating HELO or EHLO.  I've I can make the switch between MTA's in under
five minutes (so I don't disrupt the other 500 users who can send mail)
I'll look into switching.  I really would like to stick to smail though.
If anybody has ANY idea I would appreciate it, right now it looks as
though I'll spend the night here until I find a solution :

mike...

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RIP version in routed?

1998-07-03 Thread Fernando Fernandez
Hi all!

Can anyone tell me what version of RIP is implemented by
the routed included in debian?

Thanks in advance,

Fernando


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modem setup problem - zoltrix 33600

1998-07-03 Thread Micha Feigin

I am having trouble setting up this modem.
I tried the normal settings on this modem, but they won't work.
If i'm reading the output from plog correct then it gets stuck
waiting for the login name.
It does everything before that very slowly but i got it to dial.
then i get a first line of 'welcome to ...' which is supposed to be 
the welcoming line to the ISP.
The next line says waiting fot sername: (looking for the line
requesting user name input). And then it times out and leaves.
Any idea's?



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Re: changing/adding/using fonts and ttfonts

1998-07-03 Thread Geoff Saxby
On Thu, 2 Jul 1998, Micha Feigin wrote:

snip
 (especially xterm), and if anyone knows if there is an editor, or/and
 preferable an atachment to xemacs that i can make work from right to
 left (I also need to be able to set the font to an hebrew one)
snip

Not sure if this is useful but vim has right to left and keyboard
mapping for hebrew. Not sure if it is any good/useful as I've never
used it. It needs to be included at compile time.

Geoff

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using dselect through ftp

1998-07-03 Thread Micha Feigin

I tried to use dselect through ftp.
After setting up the options it logs in to the ftp server
and then it couldn't find the directory. I checked and the
deirectory was spelled out right. anyone know the problem?



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using mail on a debian system (betwin users)

1998-07-03 Thread Micha Feigin
How do i send mail betwin users on my debian system?
For now its mainly interest, but anyway.
Thanx

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Re: Powerpoint equiv. for Linux?

1998-07-03 Thread paulwade
  StarOffice 4.0 is still free. Check out http://www.stardivision.com. I've

I think you mean free for non-commercial use, a term that is very
misunderstood. Commercial use goes far beyond having a business with an
official name. If you use this product to create signs or compose an
advertisement for a 'yard sale' you are violating the terms and are
supposed to buy a commercial license.

 study it, but I did find out that it will not load PowerPoint (*.ppt) files.  
 I also checked on word processor files.  WinWord 6.0 and 95 are supported, 

Even if it loaded a zillion formats, it doesn't appear to give much choice
in formats for saving files. You really want to be able to export your
work to formats that free software likes to load.

 One nice thing.  It doesn't violate the Debian scheme because it installs in 
 the user's home directory.  On a real multi-user system, there is a 'net 
 install' option, for which a deb package should be created, but I suspect 
 that 
 most Debian systems are really single user workstations.

I think there are quite a few Debian systems that are used as servers. The
difference is basically the number of user accounts created. You want the
good multiuser packages for the single user workstation. They prevent
non-root users from damaging system stuff. If entire packages get
installed in your home directory, you have to be careful what you do (just
like when you use Windows)

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Re[2]: egcs includes

1998-07-03 Thread Bob Bernstein
Jason Gunthorpe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I think this are old libg++ headers. libg++ is obsolete, don't use it if
 you can help it.

Thanks for the clarification. I was compiling a package whose includes
included g the header files in question, so I wasn't free to pick and
choose.

I guess authors will have to more or less slowly get adjusted to the new
scheme of things?


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Re: VCD Player and SB 16 PnP

1998-07-03 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Thu, Jul 02, 1998 at 02:09:19PM -0400, Will Lowe wrote:
  On Thu, 02 Jul 1998, Alex Kwan wrote:
  (2) My Soundcard was Soundblaster 16 PnP, do I need the
   isapnptools? If need, how to do it? (My systems is Hamm)
  
  Yes, you do need the isapnptools, unless you plan on using loadlin from 
  windows
  or something wierd like that..  The sound howto will tell you all about how 
  to
  make it work.
 You won't need isapnptools if you've got a pnp bios -- it'll take care of
 the pnp end of things for you.

Yes, BUT how will you know what settings the BIOS has assigned it to
tell the sound driver? I have a PnP BIOS and still use isapnptools.
Windows wouldn't need PnP support if it were this simple.


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[URGENT!] smail bombs when sending!

1998-07-03 Thread Michael Beattie

I am having real big problems sending mail with smail as my MDA, which I never
had until 2 days ago.

When sending mail ( runq -v ) Error 164 is reported:  Connection Timed Out
I never used to have this problem, but it is really annoying!

I am using a smarthost.

Versions of relevant stuff:

smail: 3.2.0.101-4.4
Hamm, kernel 2.0.33

I have started using fetchmail as a daemon in /etc/ppp/ip-up.d/ and killing
it in /etc/ppp/ip-down.d/ , but I have killed that to try it without it,
so far no luck...

(sorry about bad layout... telnet :) )

Can anyone suggest an answer? If not, can exim rewrite headers for a dialup 
system
(from/sender/etc...)??? If so, can someone send me an example? I can recieve
mail fine, just sending is a pain, so I need to get this little problem fixed
asap!

Thanks for any help anyone can offer,

Michael Beattie


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ne2000 mod

1998-07-03 Thread Babs
I am having trouble with my ne2000 it was configured properly and running
earlier today. i recompiled my kernel and messed it up. had to revert to
the old one then recompile it again. the either hasn't worked since. the
ne2000 driver is compiled into the kernel i have tried setting the eth0 as
follows
the error i get is Loading modules: ne can't find module ne

lilo.conf
append=eth0=0,0,eth0

and 

/etc/modules
#auto
ne

as well as 

#auto
ne io=0x240, irq=5
anyideas?
Thanks babs

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X11 problems on a new install...

1998-07-03 Thread Evan Van Dyke
I've just installed Debian 2.0, using the 2.0.34 Kernel...  Dselected
all the X11 stuff, installed it, etc.  When I try to run fvwm95(actually,
I'd like to use ksh, but fvwm95 was already there, being in the hamm
install) I get libXpm.so.4 not found.  I tried wm2, and one or two other
window managers and get similar lib*.so.* not found errors...  Im assuming
that I've a bad path statement somewhere, but as this is my first Debian
system Im not sure where to look.  Any help would be grately appreicated!

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Re: X11 basic configuration files missing with hamm install.

1998-07-03 Thread Alexander Gutfraind
Hi Fellow users!
I've encountered the problem too. It couldn't find a readme file in ../include 
if I'm
not
mistaken directory. It appears to be a bug, because when I looked into that 
directory
I found that another dir was created inside the .../include .../include/include 
!!
where the
mising file was(meanning: .../include/include/README).
I copied the file to a directory below, wipeouted the internal include, run 
config and
it just noticed that some files are not where they supposed to be. and then no 
problems
at all.

I must be a script bug.

Eric wrote:

 Did anyone else get this problem?  Perhaps it should be reported as a
 bug.

 Eric.

 On Thu, 02 Jul 1998, Tom Robertson wrote:
 Eric,
 Thanks.  That did the trick.
 
 Tom
 
 
 On Thu, 02 Jul 1998, Eric wrote:
 I too got this error, I went and checked out 
 /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb/compiled and
 saw that there was a subdirectory called compiled there (is that an error 
 in the
 package?) and it has the README in it.  Simply copy the README from
 /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb/compiled/compiled/README to
 /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb/compiled/README and it should work.  I still do
 have XF86Setup yell at me a little about missing documentation, but it 
 doesn't
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Re: IDE stopped working

1998-07-03 Thread tko
Jaakko Niemi writes:
 
  All was good until I changed motherboards. All of a sudden now, the 
  secondary
  IDE bus does not properly detect the cdrom drive. The screen shows the IDE
  primary bus as being probed, but no secondary bus. I use LILO to boot. How 
  can
  I get the kernel (2.0.32) to properly probe/detect the secondary IDE bus?
 
  Does the BIOS find your CD ? 
 

Yes, The BIOS does properly identify the CDrom Drive. Funny thing , now that I
think about it, is that Win95 could not see the secondary IDE bus or the CDROM
drive until I loaded a driver under Win95 (supplied by the MB manufacturer).
Perhaps the registers for the secondary IDE bus are sufficiently different
from the norm that a special driver is needed.


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LILO: Unexpected EOF?

1998-07-03 Thread SEGV
For the last few months I have been getting this error when using the
Microsoft entry of my /etc/lilo.conf:

Loading Microsoft
Unexpected EOF
Loading Microsoft
Unexpected EOF
Loading Microsoft
Unexpected EOF
...

until I hit CTRL.

This used to work and bring up NT Loader. I know I have reinstalled since then,
but why would I get this, and how would I fix it? The relevant conf entry is:

image=/dev/hda1
label=Microsoft

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What's the state of gnome on debian ?

1998-07-03 Thread Ionut Borcoman at debian
Hi,

I am working on a project that uses gtk+. I need some widgets that are
found in gnome. However, I was unable to compile myself the gnome. 

Is the gnome available for hamm ? Or slik ? If for slik, can I install
gnome on a hamm system ? 

Another question would be which are the debian gnome compliant
window-managers ?

TIA,

Ionutz


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Spelling in Netscape 4.05

1998-07-03 Thread Ionut Borcoman at debian
Hi,

I have Netscape Comunicator 4.05 on a hamm system. The hamm is rather
old (more than one month), I admit.

At the office I have another computer with a similar system instaled
from the same CD set. At the office I am able to use spelling in
Netscape. Home I cannot do this. 

Any clue ?

TIA,

Ionutz


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Re: [URGENT] smail dies on sending

1998-07-03 Thread Michael Beattie

I have had a problem with smail, and I had solved it... :)

my apologies to extra bandwidth... I had better explain myself...

It turns out smail could not connect to my smarthost's smtp port, but I
could with telnet... bizzarre, but its true.  I only now, cannot connect
with telnet, so I changed to the slower smtp.* host, not the great,
almighty and fast mail.* host.. :)

Anyway, turns out now that I cant `fetchmail` mail from the pop server,
(well, no mail for mickyb on mail.es.co.nz for about an hour.. even
after sending stuff to myself..  (different server should work, a friend
does it that way)) but that must be a new technical problem at the ISP's
end.. time to do some yelling.. :)


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Re: Linked against libc5 AND libc6?

1998-07-03 Thread Shaleh
Frankly the only solution is to find a libc5 version of everything you
need, or a libc6 version of everything you need.  Sorry.


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Re: What's the state of gnome on debian ?

1998-07-03 Thread Shaleh
Ionut Borcoman at debian wrote:
 Is the gnome available for hamm ? Or slik ? If for slik, can I install
 gnome on a hamm system ?

The current release .20 of GNOME is waiting in Incoming (things seem
slow getting into slink).  You can get it from the maintainer's site --
www.jimpick.com.  I package Imlib and it too is waiting in Incoming. 
You can get it from www.livenet.net/~shaleh/software.

 Another question would be which are the debian gnome compliant
 window-managers ?

I expect a new verion of window maker (.16) and icewm to be coming into
slink real soon.  Enlightenment will be GNOME compliant and will be in
Debian as soon as it is released as version .14.  (I package this too)


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Re: LILO: Unexpected EOF?

1998-07-03 Thread Ionut Borcoman at debian
SEGV wrote:
 This used to work and bring up NT Loader. I know I have reinstalled since 
 then,
 but why would I get this, and how would I fix it? The relevant conf entry is:
 
 image=/dev/hda1
 label=Microsoft
 

My lilo.conf says:

other = /dev/hda1
label = dos
table = /dev/hda

for the dos / Win95 partition. I don't know if this is useful for NT
loader.

Ionutz


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off topic: gimp

1998-07-03 Thread Alexander Gutfraind
Hello Fellow Debian Users!
I've noticed that many sites promoting linux and free
software
point that their site was built by GIMP. can anybody tell me

what is GIMP? Where can I get it for a test drive?


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Re: off topic: gimp

1998-07-03 Thread Christopher Barry
GIMP is a really cool graphics program, and lets you do a lot of the same things
Photoshop does. A good place to get started would be the official website, 
gimp.org.

Alexander Gutfraind wrote:

 Hello Fellow Debian Users!
 I've noticed that many sites promoting linux and free
 software
 point that their site was built by GIMP. can anybody tell me

 what is GIMP? Where can I get it for a test drive?

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Re: NCR SCSI - which debian kernel will work

1998-07-03 Thread Christopher Barry
One of my friends just installed Slackware and had the same problem. He used the
2.0.35 kernel but I'm pretty certain you'll be fine with the 2.0.34. I don't 
know what

kernel the latest bo comes with, but you might want to consider hamm, since 
upgrading
from bo to hamm is a considerable pain but a fresh hamm install in ways can be 
easier
than bo, specifically for you with this issue I would imagine.

Lee W. Glenn wrote:

 Hi,

 After spending many hours last night and today searching the net I found a
 few references to other people having similar problems to me.  (The system
 hangs on my NCR53c875 SCSI controller when I try boot from the rescue disk
 to try and install debian bo 1.3.1.  Incidently Caldera works...)  It
 appears that the kernel version that is include on the debian CD I have is
 the issue. Does anyone know were I can get the appropriate kernel and how
 do I use it to do this installation?

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Re: ftp, telnet ping

1998-07-03 Thread Christopher Barry
I was able to use ftp via ppp with just the base2.0, drv1440, and resc1440 files
downloaded and installed. Don't know about telnet or ping.

Ed Cogburn wrote:

  Alex Kwan wrote:
 
  I have installed the Base System of Hamm
  and configured the ppp, can I use ftp, telnet
  and ping command right now or needed to
  install other packages to do that.
 
 
  Thank You

 Those progs are in the netstd package.  Install that and the other 
 things
 it requires (like netbase).

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break download

1998-07-03 Thread FRANCK . F . L . LEGALL
Hi all,

Yesterday evening, I discovered I can stop a ftp download using 
netscape 4
and disconnect and then reconnect and go on the download at the point I
left it.
This doesn't work if I leave netscape while disconnected and try to go
on the download later.


I wonder :

- Is there any FTP programm which would permit to stop a download
in order  to go on later even if the computer have been switch off ?
This could be
 useful  for huge files as staroffice...


Thanks
Franck


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Re: slrnpull + trn?

1998-07-03 Thread Johann Spies
On Thu, 2 Jul 1998, Trevor Barrie wrote:

 Failing that, could anybody tell me how to get _any_ newsreader to read
 from an slrnpull spool? Including slrn? (I've tried both of the 
 contradictory sets of instructions given in the documentation, but neither
 seem to work. Haven't had any luck with tin, either.)

I use slrn --spool.  I can't remember the details, but I know at first I
had a lot of trouble to get it to work.  If I remember correctly, I, as
root, deleted the /var/news/ directory because of trouble getting the
correct permissions.  Thereafter the slrnpull created the directory with
the correct permissions.


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Re: [Debian] Running Linux from CD

1998-07-03 Thread Jens Ritter
Joseph Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Thu, Jul 02, 1998 at 03:21:33PM +0200, Niklas H=F6glund wrote:
   is it possible to run Linux completely from CD. We have created
 =20
  I think older versions of Red Hat supported this.  I remember reading
  something about it on Red Hat 4.2.  RH4.2 was said to no longer support
  this.
[...]
 The message before this one explains how to make a CD with defaults and a
 throwaway /var and /etc.  I think instead I would in order to make this
 thing not just a demo but actually useful in a place that you can't have
 Linux (goin' to friend's house, friend has Windoze but I wanna use Linux)
 I'd have some way to use a loopback filesystem on the HD to save defaults
 like X settings and such.
 
 Could be quite useful.  I'll look in to building something to do this if
 nobody else has once I start working on the Zip version of the same.  More
 will fit on the CD-ROM, but the Zip is more upgradable and I can build the
 Zip disks custom from a mirror..  =3D

There exist plans to include a live filesystem on the contrib CD,
for backup/restore purposes. Plans though are early and not much 
has been done, yet.  

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Lapack question

1998-07-03 Thread Ionut Borcoman at debian
Hi,

How do I use a function from lapack in a C program ? Where are the
declaration ? Do I have to make myself the declaration ? 

A more general question: is there a way to find out what functions are
in a lib and what argumenst do they need ?

TIA,

Ionutz


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Require gnome file

1998-07-03 Thread Ian Stuart
I'm trying to install gnome 0.2 but I've discovered I need a file called
libgdk-imlib1.

Anyone know where I can get it from? I've tried Jim Picks pages,
debian.org  the UK SunSite mirror...

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Config for Laptop display..

1998-07-03 Thread Ian Stuart
I'm trying to get my laptop into 1024 by 768 by 16bit colour (it's
currently stuck in 8-bit colour)

The Chipset is Chips  Technologies CT65550 and it appears to be doing
funny things with the clock-line.

thanks..

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Netscape colors.

1998-07-03 Thread Christopher Barry
Hello all,

I did a search through the archives about this and found some posts that
said that Netscape will only have colored icons in the toolbar etc. in
16bpp mode. I get black and white with 16bpp, as well as 24 and 32. Why
is it that the help section looks fine and is colorful, but nothing
else? Is there any definitive answer to this? A long time ago, when I
used to run bo, I had the same problem to, but thought Netscape for unix
just doesn't have colors. I remember my shock when I saw all these
pictures of people's window managers in action with TTF fonts and
everything and COLORED netscape, after only spending 200 hours or so
using crappy black and white Netscape with jagged fonts. I think I can
tackle xfstt with the info in the list archives so far, but what about
color? What do I need to do? At least tell me if most of you got colored
just by default from the install when you first started up.

Thanks,
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RE: Linux/WinNT dual booting (an idea...)

1998-07-03 Thread Breathnach, Proinnsias \(Dublin\)
Kendrick,
You might find it a lot easier to use the NT Boot loader to boot
your linux partition 
- I'll be trying this myself soon  I'll let you know how it goes - there's
a mini howto on the subject

You could also try allowing LILO to boot from /dev/hdc1 boot sector (or
whatever it's on) and get the 
NT Bootloader to boot that partition directly - it should work (in theory
anyway) (take a look at the 
mini howto - it has examples of the syntax for boot.ini - it's a bit like
the /dev/xxx style)

Hope it goes well :)

Proinnsais

 -Original Message-
 From: Kendrick Myatt [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, July 02, 1998 8:03 PM
 To:   debian-user@lists.debian.org
 Subject:  Re: Linux/WinNT dual booting (an idea...)
 
 I'm not sure if my plan will work, but hopefully I'll find out this
 weekend.  Feel free to save me the trouble if someone else has
 already tried this and it doesn't work...  Actually I just realized
 that I may not have time this weekend... but anyway...
 
 My first hard drive has DOS and Win98 on it.
 My second drive had NT5 on it.
 My third drive has the Debian.
 
 NT must control the boot sector on the first drive, so I'm making
 win98 the default startup and setting it to present menu always.
 From there I can F4 or choose to boot to DOS which will prompt me
 with the DOS multi-config menu where I will choose either DOS or to
 run loadlin and boot linux.  With the exception of using the loadlin,
 all the other parts have been done and work fine to let me into the
 other 3 OS...
 
 Regards,
 
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Re: Please help with IP Aliasing

1998-07-03 Thread Andy Spiegl

First of all thanks a lot for your fast help, especially to Craig!

 firstly, replace all those ifconfig  route commands with something like
 this:
 
 i=1
 while [ $i -le 254 ] ; do
   ifconfig eth0:$i XXX.231.206.$i netmask 255.255.255.0
   route add -host XXX.231.206.$i eth0:$i
   $i=$(( $i + 1 ))
 done

Good idea!  A lot easier to read that way.
From your answers I assume that I really have to setup a virtual
interface for every IP address.  Isn't there a possibility to
map a whole subnet XXX.231.206.everything?  I thought I saw that
on a system a while ago.  It had even more IP addresses assigned
to.  But it might have been a FreeBSD system.

 secondly, the route command is optional.
How come that I can't reach my own address(es) without a route?
Shouldn't it be routed to the gateway, which would send it back
to my machine?

 third: do you *really* need all those aliases configured right now?
Nope, but soon.

 if not, then only configure the ones you actually need, *when* you need
 them.
Why?  Does it have any negative effects to have that many interfaces and
routes configured?

 fourth: for a virtual hosting system, it's not terribly difficult to
 set things up so that the configurations for virtual web, ftp, mail,
 dns, and ip_aliasing are all controlled from one file. e.g. make a file
 called /etc/virtual-hosts which contains the following info:
I like that idea.  I'll probably set things up this way as soon as I
have more time again.

 you can increase this limit by modifying the kernel sources. or start
 using 2.1 series kernels.
Are you saying that 2.1 kernels have this limit set higher or are they
using a completely different way of handling this situation?

 if you've got more than 255 virtual hosts then you probably want another
 machine to host them on anyway. don't try to make one machine do too
 much.
I am sure linux can handle it. :-)  No, seriously, more IP addresses
doesn't necessary mean more traffic.  It's just that some customers
want their own domain which has to be mapped to a separate IP number.

Thanks again for your help!
 Andy.

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Re: kern.log: Unable to load interpreter ???

1998-07-03 Thread Andy Spiegl
  Accorrding to the kernel source, it will generate this error if it
  tries and  fails to load the interpreter for elf binairies.
Oh, I see!

  because you had overloaded the system. (Though that seems a touch
  weird to me.)
But it's probably true.  The smail misconfiguration led to lots of smail
processes!  But I was surprised, too.  I thought linux would be smart
enough to kill some processes if that happens.

 Not that it should be really, I did some programming on a low,low spec box
 in the labs and noticed it a few times ... A good way to reproduce it is
 to sequentially call malloc with increasingly higher values in a
 background process. The OS wouldn't crash (at least to my experience) but
 ... it might be a while recovering even after you kill the offending
 process

*IF* it is possible to kill the process.  I had real trouble to do that,
because I couldn't log in and then start the killall smail command.
How did you manage to kill the processes?

Andy.

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Where is the vfat, dos support in 2.0.34 ????

1998-07-03 Thread Robert Alexander
I just installed 2.0.34-3 source and make config did not mention the
DOS flesystems  also tried rm .config but they do not show up.

kernel compiled and installed just fine and runs flawlessly but of
course my 

mount -t vfat /dev/hdb6 /DATAFILES

command failes with  ... vfat not supported by the kernel ... 

linux/fs/filesystems.c mentions them ...

What am I doing wrong  I would badly need support for vfat and if
possible for FAT32 ... Thank you in advance for any help.
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Netscape install problems .. please help ???

1998-07-03 Thread Robert Alexander
Where is the Netscape installer package for Communicator 4.05 to be
found  

I tried installing it out of the package system but when I try starting
netscape I get a  ... could not load libXt.so.6.

This file, belonging to the installed xlib6g package, is in
/usr/X11R6/lib (actually its a link to libXt.so.6.0).

Kernel 2.0.34 on an HAMM system.

Thank you very much in advance.

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Debian HAMM LOADLIN booting problems ... any help please ??

1998-07-03 Thread Robert Alexander
I have a Debian Hamm system with kernel 2.0.34 running just fine on my
/dev/hdb1. /dev/hda1 is infested by a Win95b system.

I copied the /boot/vmlinuz-2.0.34 as vmlinuz to my /dev/hdb6 FAT
partition along with loadlin.exe.

Boot win95 in DOS mode, goto my d:\loadlin directory and issue my

loadlin vmlinuz root=/dev/hdb1 ro

The boot starts up but when it gets to the APM BIOS (IBM Thinkpad 760)
the system hangs with a protection fault  message and a dump of
stacks and other info ...

Any hope ? Thank you in advance Bob.
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Debian Linux booting details

1998-07-03 Thread Robert Alexander
Is there a document which would walk through all the phases and the
resources/files used by Debian Linux while booting ???

I went through the usual inittab, /etc/init.d files but some things are
probably escaping my attention.

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Kernel compiling on Debian

1998-07-03 Thread Robert Alexander
2 questions for the cognoscenti :

A)
I have compiled quite a few kernels on Debian but am not sure I am doing
the things in the easiest/cleanest way ...

One thing that works flawlessly is installing the source package and
then using the make-kpkg command from the kernel-package package.

The same source tree used with the usual make menuconfig;make dep;make
all;make install does not work 

Any pointers ?

B)
What is the cleanest way to experiment with unstable kernels which are
not yet packaged (ex. 2.1.xxx) ??? Just unpack them in the
/usr/src/linux and use the make-kpkg trick on them and fiddle with my
lilo.conf to have both old and new kernels to boot ??

Thank you very much for your help. Bob
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Re: Netscape install problems .. please help ???

1998-07-03 Thread Christopher Barry
Hi,

I just had to deal with this problem today. Netscape is a libc5 application, and
you'll need some packages from section oldlibs. There is a libXt.so.6 in both
xlib6g(for libc6) and in xlib6(for libc5, in section oldlibs). After installing 
xlib6,
I don't remember if I got one or two more errors for missing files, I know that 
one of
them was xpm4.7 and that all the packages I needed were in section oldlibs. Now 
I have
running Netscape but it is black and white, and I don't know what to do *sigh*.

Chris

Robert Alexander wrote:

 Where is the Netscape installer package for Communicator 4.05 to be
 found 

 I tried installing it out of the package system but when I try starting
 netscape I get a  ... could not load libXt.so.6.

 This file, belonging to the installed xlib6g package, is in
 /usr/X11R6/lib (actually its a link to libXt.so.6.0).

 Kernel 2.0.34 on an HAMM system.

 Thank you very much in advance.

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Re: Vim embedded python

1998-07-03 Thread Frank Barknecht
Mike Orr hat gesagt: // Mike Orr wrote:

 [in vim 5.1-0.4]
 :python import vim
 Sorry, this command is not implemented
 
 :version
 VIM - Vi IMproved 5.1 (1998 Apr 7, compiled Jun 16 1998 16:49:40)
 Compiled with (+) or without (-):
  -python 
 
 Was there some problem getting vim-with-python to compile, or was it
 just a feature nobody has asked for yet?  I would find it very useful.

Well, I wouldn't, because I don't have python installed ;-)

But it is very simple to enable python or perl in Vim if you get the
source-deb and compile it with all the options you like...

I did this with the first Vim5.deb for debian because it didn't have 
the gui-support enabled that I like so much about Vim.
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Re: Netscape install problems .. please help ???

1998-07-03 Thread Robert Alexander
Yuk Chris,
seems we have a problem here ... it relieves me from feeling totally
dumb. Anyone could suggest the SAFE way of setting things up for the
COLOUR Netscape ??? Thanks.

Christopher Barry wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I just had to deal with this problem today. Netscape is a libc5 application, 
 and
 you'll need some packages from section oldlibs. There is a libXt.so.6 in both
 xlib6g(for libc6) and in xlib6(for libc5, in section oldlibs). After 
 installing xlib6,
 I don't remember if I got one or two more errors for missing files, I know 
 that one of
 them was xpm4.7 and that all the packages I needed were in section oldlibs. 
 Now I have
 running Netscape but it is black and white, and I don't know what to do 
 *sigh*.
 
 Chris
 
 Robert Alexander wrote:
 
  Where is the Netscape installer package for Communicator 4.05 to be
  found 
 
  I tried installing it out of the package system but when I try starting
  netscape I get a  ... could not load libXt.so.6.
 
  This file, belonging to the installed xlib6g package, is in
  /usr/X11R6/lib (actually its a link to libXt.so.6.0).
 
  Kernel 2.0.34 on an HAMM system.
 
  Thank you very much in advance.
 
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Re: LILO: Unexpected EOF?

1998-07-03 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Fri, Jul 03, 1998 at 01:14:47AM -0400, SEGV wrote:
 This used to work and bring up NT Loader. I know I have reinstalled since 
 then,
 but why would I get this, and how would I fix it? The relevant conf entry is:
 
 image=/dev/hda1
 label=Microsoft

Should be

other=/dev/hda1



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Re: Where is the vfat, dos support in 2.0.34 ????

1998-07-03 Thread Christopher Barry
Hi,

You know Robert, you seem to be experiencing the exact same problems I've been 
that
I've overcome in the past 2 days with my hamm install. I posted to the list 
about this
specific filesystem support thing in the past 48 hours or so and got a ton of 
replies.

You need to enable the 'nls' (native languages support) option during make 
config,
make menuconfig, whatever and then all the msdos, vfat etc. filesystems will 
magically
appear. I think they should more clearly label this by making all of these a 
sub-group
of nls and using the '--' that they do with the other sub-groups, so that 
you
know it leads to more options.

Chris


Robert Alexander wrote:

 I just installed 2.0.34-3 source and make config did not mention the
 DOS flesystems  also tried rm .config but they do not show up.

 kernel compiled and installed just fine and runs flawlessly but of
 course my

 mount -t vfat /dev/hdb6 /DATAFILES

 command failes with  ... vfat not supported by the kernel ... 

 linux/fs/filesystems.c mentions them ...

 What am I doing wrong  I would badly need support for vfat and if
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Re: NCR SCSI - which debian kernel will work

1998-07-03 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Fri, Jul 03, 1998 at 12:42:52AM -0700, Christopher Barry wrote:
 One of my friends just installed Slackware and had the same problem. He used 
 the
 2.0.35 kernel but I'm pretty certain you'll be fine with the 2.0.34. I don't 
 know what

Must have been a 2.0.35 pre-release, or an error;

finger @linux.kernel.org
[linux.kernel.org]

The latest stable version of the Linux kernel is: 2.0.34
The latest *beta* version of the Linux kernel is: 2.1.108



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Where is lapack-dev ?

1998-07-03 Thread Ionut Borcoman at debian
Hi,

I've downloaded some time ago the hamm. Now I need the lapack-dev, but
it is nowhere between my downloaded files. I do not have for the moment
a full connection so I do not know if it is still missing or no. Can
somebody be so kind and tell me if it is back and at what ftp address
does it have (for ftp-by-email) ? 

Is anybody packing c++/lapack++ ? How to link lapack to my c/c++
programs ? 

I've try something but got ld errors (actually I've forced the
instalation of lapack-dev from bo which depends on libc5-dev, but got a
lot of ld errors). Can I use lapack-dev from bo till I get lapack-dev
from hamm ?

TIA,

Ionutz


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Re: ran autoup, need deselect clarification

1998-07-03 Thread Ed Cogburn
Young, Ed wrote:
 
 Thanx for the fast reply.
 
 Are you saying that if I just do ACCESS, UPDATE, and INSTALL it may add
 packages that I don't already have and that this is dangerous? And that if I
 run SELECT I can check out what is proposed and eliminate unecessary
 packages from the install?
 
 Or in other words, I can SELECT to be sure that I only upgrade and
 solidify the upgrade with the minimum packages before adding any more
 packages, but once this is done I can add whatever?
 
 I'm not realy confident that I would be able to identify which packages are
 unecessary so unless it is realy dangerous, I'm inclined to just run ACCESS,
 UPDATE, and INSTALL if you think that's OK. Although I've been using Debian
 since 1.2 I still feel a little on the whole package methods.
 
 Thanx again,
 
 Ed
 


No its not dangerous to let dselect do what it wants just potentially
tedious, if you have to babysit a few hours of unnecessary downloading. 
deselect will try to pick stuff that you might not need on your system. 
Some of this stuff (like emacs) is very large and would considerably add to
a ftp download.  This is what the previous responder was warning you about. 
As long as you don't try to de-select a package labeled as 'required' or
'important' you shouldn't create a problem for yourself, if you preview (and
prune) what dselect wants to get.


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Assigning an address to my PCMCIA card. HOW ?

1998-07-03 Thread Robert Alexander
I have a portable with an eth0 and a tr0 device properly configured.

I have upgraded from BO to HAMM.

I now manually give the proper ifconfig and route commands out of a
batch file to configure them.

I used to have an /etc/pcmcia/network.opts file in which I gave the
desired values and the thing configured itself upon booting ...

How should I proceed ???

Thank you and I promise that I will stop flloding the group for today
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Re: NCR SCSI - which debian kernel will work

1998-07-03 Thread Christopher Barry
Must have been a pre-release then. The Slackware 3.5 CD has v2.0 and v2.1 
directories, and
he was about to install the latest 2.1, until I explained that 2.1 series are 
developmental,
so he went to the 2.0 directory and installed the newest one in there, which 
was a 2.0.35,
because I told him it would be safe. (I hope it will be safe :)

Chris


Hamish Moffatt wrote:

 On Fri, Jul 03, 1998 at 12:42:52AM -0700, Christopher Barry wrote:
  One of my friends just installed Slackware and had the same problem. He 
  used the
  2.0.35 kernel but I'm pretty certain you'll be fine with the 2.0.34. I 
  don't know what

 Must have been a 2.0.35 pre-release, or an error;

 finger @linux.kernel.org
 [linux.kernel.org]

 The latest stable version of the Linux kernel is: 2.0.34
 The latest *beta* version of the Linux kernel is: 2.1.108

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Re: VCD Player and SB 16 PnP

1998-07-03 Thread Ed Cogburn
Hamish Moffatt wrote:
 
 On Thu, Jul 02, 1998 at 02:09:19PM -0400, Will Lowe wrote:
   On Thu, 02 Jul 1998, Alex Kwan wrote:
   (2) My Soundcard was Soundblaster 16 PnP, do I need the
isapnptools? If need, how to do it? (My systems is Hamm)
  
   Yes, you do need the isapnptools, unless you plan on using loadlin from 
   windows
   or something wierd like that..  The sound howto will tell you all about 
   how to
   make it work.
  You won't need isapnptools if you've got a pnp bios -- it'll take care of
  the pnp end of things for you.
 
 Yes, BUT how will you know what settings the BIOS has assigned it to
 tell the sound driver? I have a PnP BIOS and still use isapnptools.
 Windows wouldn't need PnP support if it were this simple.
 
 Hamish


On my system, the PnP card is initialized to the same values every time
(whatever default values the card prefers), so once you know what it
initializes to after the first bootup, you can safely predict what it
will initialize to subsequently.  On systems with multiple PnP cards
that conflict in their preferred configurations things might be more
complicated.


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Re: serial troubles

1998-07-03 Thread Ed Cogburn
Chea Prince wrote:
 
 i suspected the modem too so tried a us robotics (usually have a gdc
 connected)...both behave the same.  seems to be related to warnings at
 bootup re: PCI ... there is a serial USB controller on IRQ 10 that is one
 of the PCI devices that isn't recognized (identified by number)... i tried
 disabling it and manually configuring /etc/rc.boot/0setserial but still
 get the same behavior.  i need info on this PCI bizness.  i read the
 PCI-HowTo but found nothing there of any use
 
 the only debian cd i have is 2.0.27 (kernel)  think i'll try hamm
 if i can find a cd...maybe PCI problems have been eliminated
 
 best--c
 
 On 2 Jul
 1998, Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote:
 
  In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
  Chea Prince [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  have included serial support in the kernel and on bootup shows serial
  devices being assigned to /dev/cua0 /dev/cua1 and /dev/ttyS0
  /dev/ttyS1 but 'cat /proc/interrupts' shows no serial devices at
  IRQ 3  4.
 
  That's OK; the interrupts are only allocated when the port is actually
  opened. You see, you can't share interrupts at the same time between
  devices but 2 devices can use the same interrupt if they are not used
  at the same time. That's why IRQs are only allocated when used.
 
  can dialout fine from minicom but ppp script fails
  (can't initialize the modem).
 
  Smells like a modem problem. Maybe the modem is set to non-echo? Try using
  the init string from minicom in the ppp script.
 
  Mike.
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I remember some PCI errors showing up during boot with older kernels
that were eliminated in later kernel versions(2.0.32+ ?), but, of
course, I can't tell whether this applies to your situation.

What exacly does 'can't initialize the modem' mean?  I had a file
permission problem with the /etc/chatscript/provider script that caused
pppd to freeze when it tried to use the chatscript.  What does the end
of the ppp.log look like?  Use plog to see this.


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Re: using dselect through ftp

1998-07-03 Thread graeve
On 3 Jul 1998 03:37:23 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Micha Feigin)
wrote:


I tried to use dselect through ftp.
After setting up the options it logs in to the ftp server
and then it couldn't find the directory. I checked and the
deirectory was spelled out right. anyone know the problem?

Yes Ido.
I don't know if it's exactly the same problem but mine is like this :
I give the options ( server, directories etc etc )
Dselect connects to the server and gets the information about the
packages.
Then there is the problem, the information about the packages is on my
system but when I try to download the files dselect is complaining
about no such file or directory.


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Re: Current Mirrors? Was deselect wont ftp

1998-07-03 Thread Ed Cogburn
Young, Ed wrote:
 
 I'll be surfing the mirrors looking for one which has some recent dates on
 the files. Seems that the most current is June 27th or so. Can you recommend
 one?
 
 What do you mean Using dselect with the apt method on a mirror
 which supports http is quite
 fast.?
 
 I'm pretty confused about quit a bit of stuff. Was deselect upgraded in the
 autoup.sh session to now use apt? Or do I need to add it...??
 Still not sure what the apt method is. I've got alot of docs on this upgrade
 but still haven't figured that out. I see that it is the command line method
 of the new package manager, but I've got no real usage other than
 run apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade. I believe I also have to install
 it first anyway, unless it was installed in the autoup.sh session.
 
 Guess I have the weekend to figure out some of this...
 
 Thanx again for the help.
 


Yeah its a little confusing.  apt will eventually replace dselect, but
right now it has no GUI or full-screen interface like dselect.  It does
have a command-line interface that implements the newer, better 'get'
routines.  Now there are 2 ways you can use apt.  When you install apt
(look in ftp.debian.org/debian/project/experimental for the latest apt
.deb package), apt not only installs itself as an executable (apt-get)
it also installs itself as a new access method for dselect.  When you
next run dselect, you'll see apt listed under the access methods, along
with 'cdrom', 'ftp', e.t.c.  To use this new method, you first must
setup /etc/apt/sources.list.  Here are some example entries:
deb ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian frozen main contrib non-free
deb ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian slink main contrib non-free


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Re: using mail on a debian system (betwin users)

1998-07-03 Thread Ed Cogburn
Micha Feigin wrote:
 
 How do i send mail betwin users on my debian system?
 For now its mainly interest, but anyway.
 Thanx
 


Do you have a mail transport agent like smail/exim installed?  If so,
use a mail program like 'mutt' to send from one user to another.  The
address of your 'users' is [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Re: X11 problems on a new install...

1998-07-03 Thread Ed Cogburn
Evan Van Dyke wrote:
 
 I've just installed Debian 2.0, using the 2.0.34 Kernel...  Dselected
 all the X11 stuff, installed it, etc.  When I try to run fvwm95(actually,
 I'd like to use ksh, but fvwm95 was already there, being in the hamm
 install) I get libXpm.so.4 not found.  I tried wm2, and one or two other
 window managers and get similar lib*.so.* not found errors...  Im assuming
 that I've a bad path statement somewhere, but as this is my first Debian
 system Im not sure where to look.  Any help would be grately appreicated!
 
 --Evan


Make sure '/usr/X11R6/lib' is in /etc/ld.so.conf.  If it isn't, add it
and run ldconfig.  Are you sure you installed the libc6 version of X11
(got it from hamm distribution right)?


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debian for public stations

1998-07-03 Thread Rhyno Art
I am new to the list and am investigating some options for configuring our
publically accessible PCs.  Through various upgrades and other developments  
we are also assembling a growing base of 486DX stations with 16 MB RAM. One 
option we are exploring is to use debian on these units. Linux has
smaller requirements than windows and might make it possible to get some
additional mileage out of this equipment.

Has anyone put together a minimally configured and locked-down system with
debian ? I am running a graphical java application and some x-windows
applications.

art
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Re: break download

1998-07-03 Thread Oliver Elphick
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  - Is there any FTP programm which would permit to stop a download
  in order  to go on later even if the computer have been switch off ?
  This could be
   useful  for huge files as staroffice...

use the reget command in ftp or use `wget -c'  
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Re: off topic: gimp

1998-07-03 Thread Oliver Elphick
Alexander Gutfraind wrote:
  Hello Fellow Debian Users!
  I've noticed that many sites promoting linux and free
  software
  point that their site was built by GIMP. can anybody tell me
  
  what is GIMP? Where can I get it for a test drive?
 
Debian packages:

$ dpkg -l | grep gimp
hi  gimp0.99.29-1  The layers-based, non-Motif GNU Image Manipu
hi  gimp-data-extra 0.99a-1An extra set of brushes, palettes, and gradi
ii  gimp-nonfree0.99.29-1  GIF and TIFF support for the GNU Image Manip
hi  libgimp10.99.29-1  Libraries necessary to run the GIMP

  
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Re: Where is the vfat, dos support in 2.0.34 ????

1998-07-03 Thread Ed Cogburn
Robert Alexander wrote:
 
 I just installed 2.0.34-3 source and make config did not mention the
 DOS flesystems  also tried rm .config but they do not show up.
 
 kernel compiled and installed just fine and runs flawlessly but of
 course my
 
 mount -t vfat /dev/hdb6 /DATAFILES
 
 command failes with  ... vfat not supported by the kernel ... 
 
 linux/fs/filesystems.c mentions them ...
 
 What am I doing wrong  I would badly need support for vfat and if
 possible for FAT32 ... Thank you in advance for any help.
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In menuconfig, under FileSystems, when you turn on Native Language
Support you'll see the other options for DOS/WIN.


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Re: Netscape install problems .. please help ???

1998-07-03 Thread Ed Cogburn
Christopher Barry wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I just had to deal with this problem today. Netscape is a libc5 application, 
 and
 you'll need some packages from section oldlibs. There is a libXt.so.6 in both
 xlib6g(for libc6) and in xlib6(for libc5, in section oldlibs). After 
 installing xlib6,
 I don't remember if I got one or two more errors for missing files, I know 
 that one of
 them was xpm4.7 and that all the packages I needed were in section oldlibs. 
 Now I have
 running Netscape but it is black and white, and I don't know what to do 
 *sigh*.
 
 Chris
 
 Robert Alexander wrote:
 
  Where is the Netscape installer package for Communicator 4.05 to be
  found 
 
  I tried installing it out of the package system but when I try starting
  netscape I get a  ... could not load libXt.so.6.
 
  This file, belonging to the installed xlib6g package, is in
  /usr/X11R6/lib (actually its a link to libXt.so.6.0).
 
  Kernel 2.0.34 on an HAMM system.
 
  Thank you very much in advance.
 
  Bob Alexander
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There is a libc6 version of NS Professional v4.05 on
home.netscape.com.  Look near where the other versions are but look for
a subdir named 'development' instead of 'shipping'.  The name of the
tarfile will have 'glibc2' in its name.


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Re: Lapack question

1998-07-03 Thread chrislee
 I == Ionut Borcoman at debian [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I Hi, How do I use a function from lapack in a C program ? Where
I are the declaration ? Do I have to make myself the declaration
I ?

I use the cfortran header file from this location
ftp://zebra.desy.de/cfortan 
to build prototypes for BLAS and Lapack functions.

I have a wrapper library (CHRLIB) for much of BLAS and some of Lapack
at this location:
 http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~chrislee/chrlib/
There is also a Guile wrapper for this library (G-CHRLIB) at the same
location.

Information about BLAS and Lapack can be found here:
 http://www.psc.edu/general/software/packages/blas/blas.html
 http://www.psc.edu/general/software/packages/lapack/lapack.html

I A more general question: is there a way to find out what
I functions are in a lib and what argumenst do they need ?

bash$ nm {libfilename}

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SCSI Disk Farm

1998-07-03 Thread Michael Laing
I volunteer assistance at several local schools in our rural district
and we have been very successful in setting up debian linux-based
servers that employ apache, squid, netatalk (for mac file sharing), and
samba (for windows file and printer sharing).

This success has lead us to experiment with 'electronic portfolios' in
which kids create a multimedia record of things they create over the
school year. We are just starting to burn CD's for each of them so they
can take their portfolios home (and we can archive their work).

However, it looks like we need to allocate .5-1 GB per kid for working
storage...2500 kids in 7 schools...200-1000GB per school...

Additionally, we have set up a very successful film/video/animation
program at the high school which is expanding there and being introduced
at lower grades - it has higher per student working storage
requirements.

At any rate, we want to pilot a debian-based disk farm at the high
school, particularly to support the video program in the fall.

I am thinking of building a system based on a dual PII BX motherboard,
e.g. Supermicro, and then stringing a lot of SCSI disks on it, I guess
in 1 or 2 separate enclosures... I would like to use RAID 5, maybe with
the raidtools package (?). The system will NOT be used for video
capture, instead students will work on local machines and use the server
to store and retrieve their current work. I will tweak the network
infrastructure accordingly with switches and 100MB links. I'd like this
system to handle 100-200GB.

Does anyone have any pointers or words of wisdom about this? We are
always looking for the cheapest alternative, but management time is
expensive and this data is valuable, so I am preferring a BIG SCSI
server solution over the herd of smaller IDE-based servers we currently
use.

Michael Laing


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Re: Where is lapack-dev ?

1998-07-03 Thread Drake Diedrich
On Fri, Jul 03, 1998 at 10:21:26AM +, Ionut Borcoman at debian wrote:
 From: Ionut Borcoman at debian [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Hi,
 
 I've downloaded some time ago the hamm. Now I need the lapack-dev, but
 it is nowhere between my downloaded files. I do not have for the moment
 a full connection so I do not know if it is still missing or no. Can
 somebody be so kind and tell me if it is back and at what ftp address
 does it have (for ftp-by-email) ? 

   I believe it was only recently recompiled for libc6 (just before code
freeze).  Try

ftp://ftp.debian.org/pub/debian/hamm/hamm/binary-i386/devel/
lapack-dev_2.0.1-2.1.deb

 
 Is anybody packing c++/lapack++ ? How to link lapack to my c/c++
 programs ? 

   lapack-dev is a fortran library.  The consequence of this is that on
Linux, Irix, and perhaps other systems you need to call function_() instead
of function(), and pass all values by address.  For example:

Matrix Matrix::invert() {
  int n=4,ipiv[4],info;
  float work[4];
  sgetrf_(n,n,m,n,ipiv,info);  // float m[4][4]
  sgetri_(n,m,n,ipiv,work,n,info);
  return *this;
}

   Lapack++ hasn't been packaged yet, but would be welcome.  The successor,
NTL, might be a better time investment.  http://math.nist.gov/tnt/ 


 
 I've try something but got ld errors (actually I've forced the
 instalation of lapack-dev from bo which depends on libc5-dev, but got a
 lot of ld errors). Can I use lapack-dev from bo till I get lapack-dev
 from hamm ?

   I used the old lapack-dev for a while in a mixed libc5/libc6 environment,
but wouldn't suggest trusting it for production work.  If you compile with
the libc5 gcc-altdev package it should be safe.


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Re: modem setup problem - zoltrix 33600

1998-07-03 Thread vaidhy
 I am having trouble setting up this modem.
 I tried the normal settings on this modem, but they won't work.
 If i'm reading the output from plog correct then it gets stuck
 waiting for the login name.
 It does everything before that very slowly but i got it to dial.
 then i get a first line of 'welcome to ...' which is supposed to be 
 the welcoming line to the ISP.
 The next line says waiting fot sername: (looking for the line
 requesting user name input). And then it times out and leaves.
 Any idea's?
 
 Looks like the login string sent to your modem from ISP and one you are 
waiting for are different. Dial thru minicom and see what login string you 
get.. Something like 'Login Name ' or 'Username:'... Change the chatscript to 
this string...


Best of luck,
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Re: debian for public stations

1998-07-03 Thread E.L. Meijer \(Eric\)
 
 I am new to the list and am investigating some options for configuring our
 publically accessible PCs.  Through various upgrades and other developments  
 we are also assembling a growing base of 486DX stations with 16 MB RAM. One 
 option we are exploring is to use debian on these units. Linux has
 smaller requirements than windows and might make it possible to get some
 additional mileage out of this equipment.
 
 Has anyone put together a minimally configured and locked-down system with
 debian ? I am running a graphical java application and some x-windows
 applications.

If by minimal you mean 486DX with 16 MB RAM, I am running a AMD486DX4
100 MHz system at home and it does work nicely with X11.  I compile
stuff, program, edit, use TeX and XFig with it.  If you want to do
heavy computational stuff or graphics manipulation, it is a bit slow
though.

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Single-user vs multi-user ystem configuration suggestion

1998-07-03 Thread Peter S Galbraith

[Perhaps this should go to the devel list, but I don't subscribe to it
(yet).]

This is about Debian's sometimes not-complete configuration on the grounds
that a multi-user system shouldnot enable bells for all users.  I think
that users would be better served if this behaviour were optional.

When some packages are installed (e.g. AUCTeX), they are not enabled.
While enabling them may involve an easy step (e.g. adding `(require
'tex-site)' to ~/.emacs), the new users who want to try-out the package
may waste a lot of time figuring this out (and led them to believe that
Win98 is easier to setup than Debian).  The new users may also have just
installed 100 packages with dselect and have trouble keeping track of all
these tweaks that must be done by hand.

I understand that on some Debian systems that are setup for multi-user use,
the admin may not want to force his or her choice on every user.  But what
if the initial configuration of Debian had a /etc/debian-configure-as file
(or any other name) that said as single-user or as multi-user.  If
single-user configuration were selected, then all pacakges like AUCTeX
could assume it safe and preferable to fully install themselves, making the
end-user's job much easier.

Sorry to pick on AUCTeX as an example, I'm sure other packages suffer from
this limit also.  But AUCTeX is so good that I want users to be able to try
it out easily.  I'm also interested in making a few deb packages of my own
to setup some Emacs stuff (font-latex, bib-cite, etc) to make them easier
to try-out and use, but there's not point since that would break current
policy.  :-(

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AUCTeX reference:

Noel Yap [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about the AUCTeX configuration:

  Debian [should] put (require 'tex-site.el) in
 /etc/emacs/site-start.el or to have the package itself put a symlink to
 tex-site.el in /etc/emacs/site-start.d/.  This is the default behavior
 of tm and vm.

And the reply came back from the AUCTeX maintainer [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 The Debian AUC TeX package currently works the way it does because
 Debian is a multi-user operating system.
 
 A system administrator may want to make it available to her users
 without forcing /all of them/ to use it by default: every user could
 decide it by himself, adding `(require 'tex-site)' to his ~/.emacs
 if he wants to.
 
 Should the system administrator want to have it loaded by default for
 all her users, she would only have to add `(require 'tex-site)' to the
 system-wide /etc/emacs/site-start.el.
 
 The whole story is documented in /usr/doc/auctex/README.Debian.

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Re: Powerpoint equiv. for Linux?

1998-07-03 Thread Richard E. Hawkins Esq.

Tom wrote,

 I downloaded and installed Star Office 4.0.  I haven't had much opportunity 
 to 
 study it, but I did find out that it will not load PowerPoint (*.ppt) files.  

It will handle a single version of powerpoint, and nothing before.  Version 7, 
I think.  HOwever, it lost all the pictures . . .


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Re: VCD Player and SB 16 PnP

1998-07-03 Thread Jaakko Niemi
  On Thu, 02 Jul 1998, Alex Kwan wrote:
  (2) My Soundcard was Soundblaster 16 PnP, do I need the
   isapnptools? If need, how to do it? (My systems is Hamm)
  
  Yes, you do need the isapnptools, unless you plan on using loadlin from 
  windows
  or something wierd like that..  The sound howto will tell you all about 
  how to
  make it work.
 You won't need isapnptools if you've got a pnp bios -- it'll take care of
 the pnp end of things for you.

 The pnp bios does not help with for example AWE 64. 

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Re: SCSI aic7890 on-board-adapter (Asus P2B-LS)

1998-07-03 Thread Lars Steinke
On Thu, 2 Jul 1998, Niels V. Pedersen wrote:

 If somebody know how to get a scsi cdrom drive working with the debian 
 dist. plz mail back. 
 P.S. have read the SCSI-HOWTO from LDP at the sunsite-chain. 

Hmmm, mount -tiso9660 /dev/scd0 /wherever should do the trick...
Unless, you don't have SCSI compiled into your kernel or modularized:
For Debian you can activate SCSI module support by modprobe aic7xxx
which should take care of all the modules needed.

Bye,

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netscape 4.05

1998-07-03 Thread K.Y.Lo
Hi

I had installed Netscape 4.05 and setting up things but I cant running
netscape to excute itself. it looks nothing

How do user run the netscape to execute? 


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distribution HOWTO

1998-07-03 Thread E.L. Meijer \(Eric\)
Hi all,

I just had a peek at the linux distribution HOWTO at
http://sunsite.unc.edu/mdw/HOWTO/Distribution-HOWTO.html.  The debian
entry is about debian 1.3 and last updated 13 March 1997.  Wouldn't it
be a good idea that someone sent the maintainer a little something
about the 2.0 beta?  Also, debian is listed under the title `American
Linux Distributions'.  Although this is probably formally true, it
doesn't seem to convey the right spirit.  I used to think that debian
is located on the internet, rather than in America, and essentially is
an international organisation.  Maybe we should make a remark on that
too?  Does anyone have any statistics on the different nationalities of
the developpers/package maintainers?

Eric Meijer

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Re: [Debian] Running Linux from CD

1998-07-03 Thread Brederlow
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Thu, Jul 02, 1998 at 09:44:50AM +0200, Nico De Ranter wrote:
  is it possible to run Linux completely from CD.
 
 Probably yes, if a system has sufficient RAM. One would have to combine some
 things:
[snip]

8 MB's are perfectly fine for this. I used a setup of a 4MB ramdisk
and a lifefilesystem on CD for the Eagle Linux m68k installation
routine. With only 8 MB you can't run without swap, but that can be on 
a native partition (i.e. no need to repartition the drive). With 12 MB 
I'm able to run bash and other small programms without swap.

I would think the average ram in a computer nowadays would be 16 - 32
MB ram, more for better systems. With that starting X without swap
could even be possible.

May the Source be with you.
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Re: [Debian] Running Linux from CD

1998-07-03 Thread Brederlow
Joseph Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
 On Thu, Jul 02, 1998 at 03:21:33PM +0200, Niklas Höglund wrote:
   is it possible to run Linux completely from CD. We have created
  
  I think older versions of Red Hat supported this.  I remember reading
  something about it on Red Hat 4.2.  RH4.2 was said to no longer support
  this.
 
 They didn't have space for it anymore.  It'd be an interesting thing to set
 up to give people at LUG meetings.  It's kinda what I wanted to do with a
 Zip disk..  Bring me a Zip disk and I'll give you a working Linux system
 that doesn't use any HD space.

I used a 30 MB Linux on a zip for some time here at university. Not
fast, but far better than using NT. :) Since zips are rw, one can just 
install a normal Debian on it.

 The message before this one explains how to make a CD with defaults and a
 throwaway /var and /etc.  I think instead I would in order to make this
 thing not just a demo but actually useful in a place that you can't have
 Linux (goin' to friend's house, friend has Windoze but I wanna use Linux)
 I'd have some way to use a loopback filesystem on the HD to save defaults
 like X settings and such.

I'm working on it. I also want to have the CD exported via nfs and
possibly have other machines boot via nfs. All one would need to show
how Linux work in a network is one CD and one bootdisk.
Using some loopback device to store data is also in my mind,
especially for swap.

I heard that swap might not be on a MSDos filesystem. Is that still
true and what is the reason?

 Could be quite useful.  I'll look in to building something to do this if
 nobody else has once I start working on the Zip version of the same.  More
 will fit on the CD-ROM, but the Zip is more upgradable and I can build the
 Zip disks custom from a mirror..  =

Do you have a script to build the zip? Can you mount the zip ro to
simulate a CD?

May the Source be with you.
Mrvn


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Re: Debian Linux booting details

1998-07-03 Thread Brederlow
Robert Alexander [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Is there a document which would walk through all the phases and the
 resources/files used by Debian Linux while booting ???
 
 I went through the usual inittab, /etc/init.d files but some things are
 probably escaping my attention.
 
 Thank you.

/etc/rcS.d/README might be of help.

May the Source be with you.
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RE: Linux/WinNT dual booting (an idea...)

1998-07-03 Thread Dennis Dai
My experience is: install NT first, then install Linux, run LILO to
modify MBR (add a dos option as usual). After reboot, I got LILO prompt
first. If I select dos, NT boot loader came up, there you can select NT
or win95. This is quite different from what has been described in those
mini HOWTOs. So I suspect that although MS claim to modify MBR, but in
fact they just modify the boot sector of the active partition. Correct
me if I'm wrong 'cause I'm not the expert.

Note: my first partition on first HD is a DOS (vfat) partion. I use it
to hold those ntldr, boot.ini, ntdetect.com etc.

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Support

1998-07-03 Thread Romilson Carvalho
Hello Friends,
I've installed debian linux in my computer, but ,, 
I got the Base1_3.tgz , and I don't know that i do with this file ..

whats can I do ?

and more ..  Debian linux have not X windows system ?
Have i that got the x in the net ?

Please , sorry if my english ins't good ..  because 
I'm brasilian ... and my team play today !!! :-))

Romilson


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Re: Require gnome file

1998-07-03 Thread Shaleh
Yes, it is still sitting in Debian's Incoming so if the Debian mirror
you use has Incoming you can grab it from there.  Otherwise I keep a
copy on my website.  Go to www.livenet.net/~shaleh/software.  Grab all
the imlib 1-11 files.

Ian Stuart wrote:
 
 I'm trying to install gnome 0.2 but I've discovered I need a file called
 libgdk-imlib1.
 
 Anyone know where I can get it from? I've tried Jim Picks pages,
 debian.org  the UK SunSite mirror...
 
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Re: debian for public stations

1998-07-03 Thread Shaleh
A DX66 was my first Linux box.  Runs fine, however I think you will Java
rather unhappy.  It will work, but it will load and change SLOWLY.  But
otherwise, you should not have any problems.


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Can't connect to slashdot.org

1998-07-03 Thread Adam Klein
For the past few days, I have been unable to connect to slashdot.org using
either lynx or 'telnet slashdot.org http'.  Actually, I can connect;  I just
don't recieve any data.  I haven't had trouble with any other WWW sites.
Any ideas as to what might be wrong?

Thanks,
Adam Klein


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Re: Can't connect to slashdot.org

1998-07-03 Thread Shaleh
HAHAHAHAHA

Ok, now that that is said.  slashdot.org's founder Rob Malda is in the
process of moving.  And as we all know once you do not have time to work
on something -- it breaks.  the DNS server has had problems the last few
days.  It is functional now, but will more than likely be coming up and
down.  And ummm, like, it is just a web site.


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autoup.sh by ftp

1998-07-03 Thread Hans Ehrbar

Is there an address where I can get autoup.sh and the
other files necessary for updating by ftp?

Hans Ehrbar


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Re: autoup.sh by ftp

1998-07-03 Thread servis
*-Hans Ehrbar ( 3 Jul)
| 
| Is there an address where I can get autoup.sh and the
| other files necessary for updating by ftp?
| 

Check http://www.debian.org/news#19980624 for a list of sites.

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Re: Support

1998-07-03 Thread servis
*-Romilson Carvalho ( 3 Jul)
| Hello Friends,
| I've installed debian linux in my computer, but ,, 
| I got the Base1_3.tgz , and I don't know that i do with this file ..
| 
| whats can I do ?

Check out the following for the full instructions

Debian 1.3
ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/bo/main/disks-i386/current/install.html

or 

Debian 2.0beta
ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/hamm/main/disks-i386/current/install.html

| 
| and more ..  Debian linux have not X windows system ?
| Have i that got the x in the net ?

Yes, Debian has the XFree86 system.  When you run the Debian package
selection tool, dselect, look in the x11 sections.  Read the following
also:

Debian 1.3:
ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/bo/main/disks-i386/current/dselect.beginner.8.html

or

Debian 2.0beta
ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/hamm/main/disks-i386/current/dselect.beginner.html

Have fun,
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Re: Netscape install problems .. please help ???

1998-07-03 Thread d1temp


 seems we have a problem here ... it relieves me from feeling totally
 dumb. Anyone could suggest the SAFE way of setting things up for the
 COLOUR Netscape ??? Thanks.

 Now I have
 running Netscape but it is black and white, and I don't know what to do 
 *sigh*.

This wouldn't be the 24bpp bug? Netscape in 24bpp gets black/white
icons... Switch X to 16 or 32 bpp and see if that works better...

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Re: [Debian] Running Linux from CD

1998-07-03 Thread Joseph Carter
On Fri, Jul 03, 1998 at 05:34:06PM +0200, Brederlow wrote:
  They didn't have space for it anymore.  It'd be an interesting thing to set
  up to give people at LUG meetings.  It's kinda what I wanted to do with a
  Zip disk..  Bring me a Zip disk and I'll give you a working Linux system
  that doesn't use any HD space.
 
 I used a 30 MB Linux on a zip for some time here at university. Not
 fast, but far better than using NT. :) Since zips are rw, one can just 
 install a normal Debian on it.

Debian wouldn't install in 30 megs.  I think I'll try for 60-70.


 I'm working on it. I also want to have the CD exported via nfs and
 possibly have other machines boot via nfs. All one would need to show
 how Linux work in a network is one CD and one bootdisk.
 Using some loopback device to store data is also in my mind,
 especially for swap.
 
 I heard that swap might not be on a MSDos filesystem. Is that still
 true and what is the reason?

There'd be no reason for loopback filesystem for swap...  Linux can handle a
swapfile.  I don't see why it would matter to Linux if the thing was on fat
since fat is owned by root traditionally..  Other than that you can't set
the permissions to 640 for the thing..  That'd constitute a security risk,
but one I think would be manageable if you mount the FAT partition securely.


  Could be quite useful.  I'll look in to building something to do this if
  nobody else has once I start working on the Zip version of the same.  More
  will fit on the CD-ROM, but the Zip is more upgradable and I can build the
  Zip disks custom from a mirror..  =
 
 Do you have a script to build the zip? Can you mount the zip ro to
 simulate a CD?

No.  I'll prolly hack the boot floppies images to do the same and then do
what they do with other packages to make a super rescue disk first.  WHen I
have that figured out, I'll look into more complex things like having the
small installation on it.  Loading Linux on this thing is not likely gonna
be easy.  I'm thinking that the kernel will load a ramdisk image and use the
proc filesystem to find the Zip drive.  Once it does that it can use the
thing normally in theory.  =

We'll see.  I only have the SCSI model so I can only do the original SCSI
and parallel port versions.  When people see how I do it, they're welcome to
send me info on how to do the same with the Zip Plus SCSI, the same with the
Zip Plus parallel driver, and the IDE models..

For an idea of how I'm gonna ID this thing, each disk Linux sees on my IDE
bus is listed in /proc/ide/..  In there I have ide0/ and ide1/, but I also
have hda and hdc, symlinks to inside those devices..  So, I can find my hard
drive by looking for WDC in /proc/ide/hd?/model.  When I get the new SCSI
cables I should be able to do the same with the SCSI bus and I -KNOW- what
the SCSI Zip drive's ID is.  That kind of thing will help me ID the drive by
the device name Linux uses, which should let me access it fine.

You won't likely need to do all of that for a CD-ROM.  Certainly, you'd not
be able to.  The only reason I'm able to is that there aren't many models of
Zip drive out there to contend with.


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Re: autoup.sh by ftp

1998-07-03 Thread servis
*-Hans Ehrbar ( 3 Jul)
| 
| Hello Brian,
| 
| thanks for your prompt reply.  I have been trying the URL
| you gave me, http://www.debian.org/news#19980624, and I
| checked through the whole directory tree of ftp.debian.org
| but I haven't found autoup.sh anywhere where it is
| accessible per ftp.  I lost quite a bit of time over it, and

ftp.debian.org is not mentioned in the above URL as a place to get the
autoup.sh script.

| perhaps others might be interested too how to get it per ftp
| instead of per www.  If you could post the precise
| ftp address to the list i think this would be useful for
| others too.
| 
| 
| Hans Ehrbar.

From: http://www.debian.org/news#19980624,

1.autoup.sh - This is a script that will upgrade the programs in the
  correct order, even download the deb's for you. Because of the 
  continuing changes to the archive, a tar archive of the packages 
  that were available at the time autoup.sh was last released is 
  provided. Versions are available at:
  the current site
  http://www.taz.net.au/autoup/
  http://debian.vicnet.net.au/autoup/
  http://www.uk.debian.org/autoup/ (ftp: also okay) 

So ftp://www.uk.debian.org/autup/ will also work.  I aslo check
debian.vicnet.net.au for ftp and I found you can also access it via
ftp, i.e. ftp://debian.vicnet.net.au/autoup/ will work also.

Hope this helps,

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installing, bad primary partition fatal error

1998-07-03 Thread Avalon Rusk
I tried installing debian 1.3 after downloading it from the website.
I made a rescue floppy and attempted an install from DOS with loadlin
(1.6).  From loadlin, I got the following message during the install
process (but before configuring the monitor or keyboard):
Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 01:00
I was then able to boot back into DOS/Win95. (I have 8M ram and a 285M
IDE hard drive.)  I then attempted to boot/install Linux from the
rescue disk.  The following error occured when I was adding partitions
 (after configuring monitor and keyboard):
I tried a few more times each way with the same results (FATAL ERROR
for rescue floppy and Kernel panic for loadlin).  Can someone please
help me figure out what to do?
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Can't Copy 161 MB

1998-07-03 Thread Dennis Dixon
What I need to do is change one of my Debian (version 1.3) partitions into 2
separate partitions.  There is presently 161 MB of files in hda6 (the
partition I want to subdivide) and on my Windows half of the computer in
Drive D: (hda5) I have 190MB of free space.

I figured the thing to do is copy all the files on hda6 into hda5(my D:
drive), repartition hda6 into hda6 + hda7 (I should use the rescue disk for
this?), and then copy back my files from 'D:' on to 'hda6', leaving hda7
empty for future use.  (I thought I read in one of the previous mailings
that there is software that makes these steps unnecessary.  Is this true?) 

Anyway, when I tried to do this:
 'mount hda5 /mnt'
 go to 'D:/Debfiles' directory
 'cp -a /usr/*' (hda6)

I got the error message 'no more space left on device'.

Furthermore, now when I boot up, my hda2 partition (where my /root is) shows
0 space available.  When I halt or reboot I get the message:
 'error can't write to etc mtab.tmp, no space left on device'

Looking around I found 1 file '/proc/kcore' which had 16 MB and everything
elso in '/proc' had 0 bytes.  To fix the first problem, of all my space gone
in hda2, I am tempted to just delete the 'proc/kcore' file.  Is this the
wrong thing to do?

The second problem is to copy the 161 MB in hda6 to D:.  I went back to D:
and deleted and moved some stuff around and now have 240MB free, which
should be plenty of room.  But when I try again am I going to have the same
problem?  Is my limiting factor the size of hda2 (my root partition) or does
the 'etc/mtab.tmp' file have a maximum capacity?  Since I only have ~20MB
free on hda2, is that the limit of what I can copy between partitions?

*

I have another problem, which I believe is a separate issue.  When I first
booted up the computer, (BEFORE trying to copy the 161MB) I noticed a huge
file ('root/core' 21MB) that wasn't there yesterday.  The last thing I've
done is install the CoffeeShop Java IDE (from SFS Software) in my
'/home/dixon' directory. (The instructions appeared to say that this was the
proper place for it.) I also noticed a 339KB file '/etc/core'.  Are these
files necessary? Should they be there?

Thanks for any help someone might have.  
Dennis Dixon
P.O. Box 1896 
Fort Bragg, CA  95437

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Re: Linked against libc5 AND libc6?

1998-07-03 Thread Anders Hammarquist
Hmm ... ok, that makes sense.  When I do an ldd on erpcd on a libc5
system it only says it's linked against libc5 ... and libdb is linked
against libc6 on hamm systems.

tesla:/usr/annex # ldd erpcd
libdb.so.2 = /lib/libdb.so.2
libc.so.5 = /lib/libc.so.5
tesla:/usr/annex # cat /etc/debian_version
1.3

Any way out of this mess?  I don't have a libc5 version of libdb 2 ... I
had to make a rather ugly hack to get this to run on the bo system :)

Well, you could take the libdb.so.2 you built on the bo system and
stick it in /usr/lib/libc5-compat on the hamm system (don't forget
to run ldconfig after). The loader is intelligent in the way that if
there are two copies of the library, it will link in the one which
uses the same version of libc as the binary.

Then perhaps you should petition someone to do a libc5 version of
DB 2 for the oldlibs section.

Regards,
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Re: Can't Copy 161 MB

1998-07-03 Thread Shaleh
Ok, /proc DOES NOT EXIST on your filesystem.  It is what is called a
virtual filesystem.  It looks like files, acts like files, but it does
not actually contain files on your hard drive.  /proc/kcore is the
contents of the kernel's core memory.  It is not real and is not taking
up space on your hard drive.

Next, any file named core is a left over from a segmentation fault:
core dumped.  You can safely remove any file name core.

Perhaps you mistyped in your last message, but it should be cp file to
copy destination.  You did not list a destination last time.  Could
have been a problem.  Also, if /tmp is on a full partition then that
could be limiting you as well.  Try moving the files over directories at
a time.  Like 'cp -R /usr/X11R6 /mnt/Debfiles/usr'.  That may help.


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Re: Support

1998-07-03 Thread Paul Huygen
Romilson Carvalho [EMAIL PROTECTED] asked:

I got the Base1_3.tgz , and I don't know that i do with this file ..

If you don't need this file, you can throw it away. If ther is useful
material in the file,
try the command tar -xzf  Base1_3.tgz to unpack this file. 

and more ..  Debian linux have not X windows system ?
Look in /debian/hamm/main/binary-i386/x11 of the debian distribution

Regards,

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PGP compiliation problems

1998-07-03 Thread Eric
I've been having some serious trouble getting PGP to compile in hamm. 
On a freshly untarred PGP source tree, I do everything that setup.doc
tells me to:  (from /usr/src/pgp, logged in as root)

cd rsaref/install/unix
make
cd /usr/src/pgp/src
make linux

Making rsaref gives me no errors, but the 'make linux' complains a
lot.  It compiles all the singular source files fine, but when it gets
to the 'gcc -o pgp pgp.o crypto.o ...' it spews forth many undefined
references such as:

crypto.o: In function 'read_mpi' :
/usr/src/pgp/src/crypto.c:627: undefined reference to 'P_SETP'

Most of these are undefined references to P_SOMETHING's, they
appear in various .o's.  Also, towards the end I get a bunch of
undefined references from _zmatch.o to various _something functions.

I've compiled various other things and haven't had any problems. 
Anyone got any ideas?

Thanks,
Eric.

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