lost+found

1999-05-08 Thread Gleydson
Ola,
fiz há pouco tempo a instalação da Slink 2.1 para testes, e ontem ocorreu
um problema com o sistema de arquivos da partição principal: 

Certas vezes quando iniciava a Debian, aparecia uma mensagem que o sistema
não conseguia rodar o INIT e era mostrado o aviso de login do root. Só que
a senha não era reconhecida. Após pressionar CTRlALTDEL, o sistema
entrava em modo de manutenção, e assim era me pedida a senha do root e
assim conseguia entrar no sistema.

Assim eu podia rodar o fsck.ext2 e verificar o sistema de arquivos. Só que
reiniciando o computador, o Linux reconhecia normalmente todos os sistemas
de arquivos. As vezes mostrava estes erros, as vezes não.

Aconteceu que, da última vez utilizei o comando fsck.ext2 com a opção -f.
Ele encontrou vários problemas com o sistema de arquivos e todos eles foram
corrigidos para o diretório lost+found. Para minha surpresa, após reiniciar
o sistema, havia perdido todos os sub-diretórios de /usr, /bin, /home e
outros 2.

Entrando em lost+found, verifiquei que lá existiam diversos sub diretórios
no formato #100125 (que se não me engano são os inodos do disco), usando o
ls nome do diretório, conseguia verificar outros diretórios dentro dele
seguindo o mesmo formato #123456.

Mas não conseguia utilizar o comando cd para entrar neste diretório e
verificar seu conteúdo. Acho que o mesmo acontecia com o mv.

Não se preocupem porque fiz esta instalação como teste e não perdi nenhum
arquivo pessoal pois tinha cópias de segurança, a partição já foi até
excluída, e estou fazendo a nova instalação do sistema.

Mas nunca tinha visto uma destruição no sistema de arqivos como esta.
Antes o sistema funcionava normalmente (mesmo tendo algum problema algumas
vezes que inicializava) e após utilizar o fsck.ext2 perder diversos
diretórios que estavam funcionando?

Alguém da lista sabe como recuperar um sistema de arquivos intactos após um
problema como este?

Pode-se confiar no utilitário fsck.ext2 durante um problema com o sistema
de arquivos?

E como restaurar, e como adivinhar quais são os nomes dos diretórios dentro
de lost+found (os diretórios principais como /usr, /home, /bin é simples,
mas dentro de /usr/doc por exemplo, existem diversos documentos e arquivos
que dificilmente podem ser lembrados).


Sinceramente, nunca tive uma perda como esta sem explicação utilizando o
DOS/NDD.

Alguém tem uma sugestão para uma melhor correção deste problema, caso venha
a acontecer  futuramente ou com qualquer pessoa da lista?

Espero sugestões



Gleydson

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smtp para outras maquinas

1999-05-08 Thread Joao Pissarro
Boas,

Estou tentando configurar o smail do debian 2.0 para enviar mensagens entre
duas maquinas debian, mas sem ligar ao nameserver uma vez que este nao
existe! (so utilizando a informacao nos ficheiros hosts.

Alguma dica?

Joao


Joao Pissarro
Inet. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ampr:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
AX25:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: ZIP drive and kernel 2.2?

1999-05-08 Thread Debian Mail
 I'm using kernel 2.2.7 on slink. My Zip (parallel) drive works perfectly
 and so does the printer. I don't use modules at all.  The 2.2.* kernel
 series allows you to have multiple parallel support.

But how do you use it? When I try do mount /dev/sda4 I just get 
mount: the kernel does not recognize /dev/sda4 as a block device

Stef


Re: processes spawned by usr 'nobody'?

1999-05-08 Thread Carl Mummert
From message [EMAIL PROTECTED]  :
I have noticed that every so often my HD would start to whine like it was
being search. It made me curious and a ran a top and I found the a the find
utility was started by user 'nobody'. Is this a normal thing to have
processes spawned by the nobody user? Or is this a problem as I think it to
be?

This is no problem.  Several programs that are run automatically from
cron.daily or cron.weekly are run as user nobody. 

One example, which may be the one you noticed, is the updatedb script, which 
builds a database for locate(1) to search.  If this ran as root, all files
on your disk would be indexed.  But since it runs as nobody, only files that
are world-readable are indexed (ie your private files are not indexed).
This is generally a good thing; sometimes people have files that they
don't want other people to know they have.  It would be a security
risk for hidden files to be indexed, because some people (maybe mistakenly)
depend on unknown filenames for security.

Some daemons may also su to nobody before going to work.  By running as
nobody, they are unable to hurt your system if they are compromised
by a remote cracker. On my system, ident, finger, and talk all run this
way.

Carl



Re: ZIP drive and kernel 2.2?

1999-05-08 Thread Alec Smith
Did you compile support for the parallel port and for the correct type of
Zip drive -- ppa or imm?



On Sat, 8 May 1999, Debian Mail wrote:

  I'm using kernel 2.2.7 on slink. My Zip (parallel) drive works perfectly
  and so does the printer. I don't use modules at all.  The 2.2.* kernel
  series allows you to have multiple parallel support.
 
 But how do you use it? When I try do mount /dev/sda4 I just get 
 mount: the kernel does not recognize /dev/sda4 as a block device
 
 Stef
 
 
 -- 
 Unsubscribe?  mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED]  /dev/null
 
 


Re: slink ifconfig broken

1999-05-08 Thread Jim B
ifconfig -a will show aliased interfaces, though.


- Original Message -
From: George Bonser [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Sent: Friday, May 07, 1999 6:14 PM
Subject: slink ifconfig broken



 Just a note that ifconfig on slink will not show aliased interfaces.

 The source for potato backage wouldnt build on slink out of the box, I
 had to comment out the ipv6 references in the net-tools/lib Makefile and I
 got the ifconfig binary to build but there were other problems.




Re: 3D Card

1999-05-08 Thread P.A. Knuutila
On Sat, May 08, 1999 at 12:25:35AM +0200, Khalid EZZARAOUI wrote:

 did someone know what kind of 3D card company, is really making the job
 to porting their hardware to Linux, especialy OpenGL ?

  There is a thread in slashdot about the subject, or closely related
however. http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=99/05/07/134212mode=thread

  -- Aleksi


Exim + Procmail + Mutt

1999-05-08 Thread J Horacio M G
I just installed Debian 2.1, and swifted from Smail to Exim.  I'm having
some trouble with it, though:

I lost some incoming mail as I tried to use Exim with the same .forward
and .procmailrc scripts I had with Debian 2.0, it sent mails to
/var/spool/exim/input/ and /var/spool/exim/msglog/.  I believe Exim
complained about |exec and IFS (I tried both with .forward).  This is
what I had in my ~/.forward:

|exec /usr/bin/procmail

¿Any idea?

Also, the problem with the From: header... my email address is
[EMAIL PROTECTED], but smail used to write it as
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (horacio being the user in the machine).  I
solved that by creating an user homega;  now, I'm trying to work it
right with Exim, so I created user horacio and in ~/.muttrc:

unmy_hdr From:
my_hdr From: J Horacio M G [EMAIL PROTECTED]
my_hdr Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Horacio)

but this is still not the way it should be done... or is it?  how can I
tell the MTA to show the full correct address?

TIA

Horacio


Re: ZIP drive and kernel 2.2?

1999-05-08 Thread Simeon Simes
  I'm using kernel 2.2.7 on slink. My Zip (parallel) drive works perfectly
  and so does the printer. I don't use modules at all.  The 2.2.* kernel
  series allows you to have multiple parallel support.
 
 But how do you use it? When I try do mount /dev/sda4 I just get 
 mount: the kernel does not recognize /dev/sda4 as a block device
 

I had that problem with one zip disk
it turned out that it had been re-formated
and was on sda1 not 4 (partition 1 not 4)


Simo


Mutt and signature

1999-05-08 Thread blutgens
Reply-To: 
What is the variable that will cause mutt to automatically ad a .signature
file? It seems this is the only thing I am having a hard time with upon my
transition to Mutt


mutt-cybercreep-4586-7
Description: PGP Key 0xB51DC4DD.


Diagnostic message with Netscape 4.51 and Hamm

1999-05-08 Thread Todd 'Snoopy' Harper
G'Day,

I'm currently still running hamm, and I've installed Netscape 4.51
using the installer package (4.0-12).  When I try to compose a new
message in Messenger, I get a subprocess diagnostic dialog box
pop up that says Warning: Type conversion failed and repeats it
twice.

Also, I can't use the backspace key on the To:/CC: line... I have 
to use ^H.  Backspace is fine on the subject line and body.

Could the two be related?  Any pointers as to what to try would
be appreciated.

Cheers,


-- 
Snoopy
For Sale:  Parachute.  Only used once.  Never opened.  Small stain.


Re: Diagnostic message with Netscape 4.51 and Hamm

1999-05-08 Thread Jean-Yves BARBIER
Todd 'Snoopy' Harper wrote:
 
 G'Day,
 
 I'm currently still running hamm, and I've installed Netscape 4.51
 using the installer package (4.0-12).  When I try to compose a new
 message in Messenger, I get a subprocess diagnostic dialog box

Hi,

I think it could come from 2 sources:
1- You told Netscape to always convert html to plain text,
2- You choose the MIME format (wich need a conversion any time)
Try to de activate one by one.

Bye
-- 
Jean-Yves BARBIER
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Les choses ne sont pas toujours ce que l'on voudrait qu'elles soient qu'elles
fussent...
P. DAC


Re: Exim + Procmail + Mutt

1999-05-08 Thread Matt Garman
On Sat, May 08, 1999 at 02:11:49AM +0200, J Horacio M G wrote:
 I lost some incoming mail as I tried to use Exim with the same .forward
 and .procmailrc scripts I had with Debian 2.0, it sent mails to
 /var/spool/exim/input/ and /var/spool/exim/msglog/.  I believe Exim
 complained about |exec and IFS (I tried both with .forward).  This is
 what I had in my ~/.forward:
 
 |exec /usr/bin/procmail

Exim is kind of like a MTA+MDA in one; to a degree, it does what
smail+procmail does.

That in mind, you can uninstall procmail, and have exim do all of your 
mail sorting.  (You'll need take your procmail recipies, convert them
to exim's language, and stick them in your ~/.forward.)

For example, here is what I have in my ~/.forward to filter this
mailing lists' posts:

# Exim filter
#  take care of mailing list debian-user
if
   $header_X-Mailing-List: contains debian-user@lists.debian.org
then
   save my_mail_directory/debian-user
   finish
endif
# enf of debian-user filter

This works, although I think I liked smail+procmail better,
personally.  shrug

MG

-- 
Matt Garman, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
And though the window in the wall
 Come streaming in on sunlight wings
 A million bright ambassadors of morning. 
--Pink Floyd, Echoes


Re: Mutt and signature

1999-05-08 Thread Matt Folwell
On Fri, May 07, 1999 at 04:27:08PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Reply-To: 
 What is the variable that will cause mutt to automatically ad a .signature
 file? It seems this is the only thing I am having a hard time with upon my
 transition to Mutt

set signature=

It seems to default to ~/.signature, since I've got that commented out,
and it still reads my .signature

-- 
Matt Folwell, Trinity College, Cambridge.  CB2 1TQ
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: Mutt and signature

1999-05-08 Thread Matt Garman
On Fri, May 07, 1999 at 04:27:08PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Reply-To: 
 What is the variable that will cause mutt to automatically ad a .signature
 file? It seems this is the only thing I am having a hard time with upon my
 transition to Mutt

In my ~/.muttrc, I have the following line:

set signature=~/.sig

And that appends the spiffy file ~/.sig to the end of every message I
send with mutt, as seen below :)

MG

-- 
Matt Garman, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
And though the window in the wall
 Come streaming in on sunlight wings
 A million bright ambassadors of morning. 
--Pink Floyd, Echoes


Re: OPL3-SAx sound CLIPPING/SKIPPING under HDD+MOUSE activity

1999-05-08 Thread Peter Ludwig

Okay, I've read through your whole message so here's a nice response for
you :)  You'll love it...

On Fri, 7 May 1999, Rune Linding Raun wrote:
 Hi  HELP!
 I got a laptop(K6-23D 333+64Mb RAM S3 virge mg/mx) with a OPL3-SAx(yamaha 719)
 sound chipset. It works perfectly under win98, but i dont use 98. The problem
 is that sound through dsp device is clipped/disturbed by HDD+MOUSE activity in
 X and X-free sessions! Iam using kernel 2.2.x and compiling with modular
 OPL3-SAx support and initializing the card with isapnp since its a PnP 
 chipset.
 I havent been able to figure out the obvious I/O conflict but iam not a HEX
 master so I have pasted in some of my /proc/ files from a
 system where i can get sound(mp3 eg) but clipping and skipping of the output
 then i move the mouse or there is harddisk activity( it dosent seem to be a 
 CPU
 dependent prob).

Not exactly sure here, but it might be related to the stuff below ...

 
 please help I need sound on my mobile-LinuxBOX :)!!!
 
 
 /var/proc/ioports:
 -001f : dma1
 
 .. Stuff cut out ...
 


Okay here's where we get to the interesting bit...

 /var/proc/pci:
 PCI devices found:
   Bus  0, device   0, function  0:
 Host bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems 5597/5598 Host (rev 4).
   

This is the same motherboard as mine apparantly, so I can give you almost
detailed information on how to get it working...

The actual sound board used, is the CMI8330 (commonly refered to as the
soundpro).  And yes, the OPL3-SAx driver does appear to work, however,
there is a much better method of getting it to work.

I have attached the two sound files that may interest you...

And yes, I'm using the new kernel (2.2.4, I'm waiting to see how much gets
modified with 2.2.5)..

If the attached files don't help too much, then try checking your
isapnp.conf file and making sure you have everything set the way you think
it should be :)

Hope this helps,
Peter Ludwig

How to enable CMI 8330 soundchip on Linux
--
Stefan Laudat [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hello folks, 

The CMI8330 soundchip is a very small chip found on many recent 
motherboards. In order to use it you just have to use a proper 
isapnp.conf and a little bit of patience. 

Of course you will have to compile kernel sound support as module, 
as shown below:

CONFIG_SOUND=m
CONFIG_SOUND_OSS=m
CONFIG_SOUND_SB=m
CONFIG_SOUND_ADLIB=m
CONFIG_SOUND_MPU401=m
# Just for fun :)
CONFIG_SOUND_MSS=m

The /etc/isapnp.conf file will be:

snip below

(READPORT 0x0203)
(ISOLATE PRESERVE)
(IDENTIFY *)
(VERBOSITY 2)
(CONFLICT (IO FATAL)(IRQ FATAL)(DMA FATAL)(MEM FATAL)) # or WARNING
(VERIFYLD N)
# WSS 

(CONFIGURE CMI0001/16777472 (LD 0
(IO 0 (SIZE 8) (BASE 0x0530))
(IO 1 (SIZE 8) (BASE 0x0388))
(INT 0 (IRQ 5 (MODE +E)))
(DMA 0 (CHANNEL 0))
(NAME CMI0001/16777472[0]{CMI8330/C3D Audio Adapter})
(ACT Y)
))

# Control device ? 

(CONFIGURE CMI0001/16777472 (LD 1
(IO 0 (SIZE 2) (BASE 0x0330))
(INT 0 (IRQ 11 (MODE +E)))
(NAME CMI0001/16777472[1]{CMI8330/C3D Audio Adapter})
(ACT Y)
))

# Joystick

(CONFIGURE CMI0001/16777472 (LD 2
(IO 0 (SIZE 8) (BASE 0x0200))
(NAME CMI0001/16777472[2]{CMI8330/C3D Audio Adapter})
(ACT Y)
))

#  SB... 
(CONFIGURE CMI0001/16777472 (LD 3
(IO 0 (SIZE 16) (BASE 0x0220))
(INT 0 (IRQ 7 (MODE +E)))
(DMA 0 (CHANNEL 1))
(DMA 1 (CHANNEL 5))
(NAME CMI0001/16777472[3]{CMI8330/C3D Audio Adapter})
(ACT Y)
))


(WAITFORKEY)

end of snip

The module sequence is trivial:

/sbin/modprobe sound
# You need to load the ad1848 module first. That matters, otherwise the 
# chip falls into soundblaster compatibility and you won't get it back out
/sbin/insmod ad1848 io=0x530 dma=0 irq=5 soundpro=1
/sbin/insmod uart401
/sbin/insmod sb io=0x220 irq=5 dma=1 dma16=-1
/sbin/insmod mpu401 io=0x330
/sbin/insmod opl3 io=0x388

The soundchip is now fully initialized. Enjoy it.
To configure the Crystal CS423x sound chip and activate its DSP functions,
modules may be loaded in this order:
  
modprobe sound
insmod ad1848
insmod uart401
insmod cs4232 io=* irq=* dma=* dma2=*
  
This is the meaning of the parameters:
  
io--I/O address of the Windows Sound System (normally 0x534)
irq--IRQ of this device
dma and dma2--DMA channels (DMA2 may be 0)
  
On some cards, the board attempts to do non-PnP setup, and fails.  If you
have problems, use Linux' PnP facilities. 
  
To get MIDI facilities add
  
insmod opl3 io=*
  
where io is the I/O address of the OPL3 synthesizer. This will be shown
in /proc/sys/pnp and is normally 0x388.


Strange IMPLICIT warning

1999-05-08 Thread Philip Thiem
I have been getting a strange warning from ISAPNP.  I cannot seem to
figure out what is up.
I don't see anything on the Bug tracker, nor anything in the mailing
list archives. So if
someone could please help me, it would be much appreciated.

I have attached the error readout with debug enabled, and my
configuration file.


Philip Thiem
-- 
PENQUIN-LOVER-CODER ALERT:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   All windows users evacuate the building!!!
 (So I can install a better OS on the comps)
Pass on the GAS get NASM instead.Configuring Plug and Pray Periphials...Got DEBUG
Got READPORT 0x020b
Got ISOLATE PRESERVE
Got IDENTIFY *
Got VERBOSITY 2
Got CONFLICT
Got IO FATAL
Got IRQ FATAL
Got DMA FATAL
Got MEM FATAL
Got CONFIGURE SUP1311/27611
Got LD 0
Got IO
Got 0
Got SIZE 8
Got BASE 0x02f8
Got INT
Got 0
Got IRQ 3
Got MODE +E
Got NAME SUP1311/27611[0]{SupraExpress 336i PnP Modem}
Got ACT
Got Y
Got CONFIGURE CTL009e/65515851
Got LD 0
Got INT
Got 0
Got IRQ 5
Got MODE +E
Got DMA
Got 0
Got CHANNEL 1
Got DMA
Got 1
Got CHANNEL 5
Got IO
Got 0
Got SIZE 16
Got BASE 0x0220
Got IO
Got 1
Got SIZE 2
Got BASE 0x0330
Got IO
Got 2
Got SIZE 4
Got BASE 0x0388
Got NAME CTL009e/65515851[0]{Audio   }
Got ACT
Got Y
Got CONFIGURE CTL009e/65515851
Got LD 1
Got IO
Got 0
Got SIZE 8
Got BASE 0x0200
Got NAME CTL009e/65515851[1]{Game}
Got ACT
Got Y
Got CONFIGURE CTL009e/65515851
Got LD 2
Got IO
Got 0
Got SIZE 4
Got BASE 0x0620
Got IO
Got 1
Got SIZE 4
Got BASE 0x0A20
Got IO
Got 2
Got SIZE 4
Got BASE 0x0E20
Got NAME CTL009e/65515851[2]{WaveTable   }
Got ACT
Got Y
Got WAITFORKEY
Executing READPORT 0x020b
Executing ISOLATE PRESERVE
Board 1 has serial identifier ef 00 00 6b db 11 13 b0 4e (SUP1311/27611)
Board 2 has serial identifier f5 03 e7 b1 4b 9e 00 8c 0e (CTL009e/65515851)
Executing IDENTIFY *
Board 1 has Identity ef 00 00 6b db 11 13 b0 4e:  SUP1311 Serial No 27611 
[checksum ef]
Board 2 has Identity f5 03 e7 b1 4b 9e 00 8c 0e:  CTL009e Serial No 65515851 
[checksum f5]
Executing VERBOSITY 2
Executing IO FATAL
Executing IRQ FATAL
Executing DMA FATAL
Executing MEM FATAL
Executing CONFIGURE SUP1311/27611
Found board SUP1311/27611 as Card Select Number 1
Executing LD 0
Executing IO 0
Executing SIZE 8
Executing IMPLICIT 
Executing BASE 0x02f8
Executing IMPLICIT 
done
/etc/isapnp.conf:12 -- Fatal - resource conflict allocating 8 bytes of IO at 2F8
/etc/isapnp.conf:12 -- Fatal - Error occurred executing request 'IMPLICIT ' 
--- further action aborted
(DEBUG)
(READPORT 0x020b)
(ISOLATE PRESERVE)
(IDENTIFY *)
(VERBOSITY 2)
(CONFLICT (IO FATAL)(IRQ FATAL)(DMA FATAL)(MEM FATAL)) # or WARNING

# Logical device id SUP1311
# Device support I/O range check register

(CONFIGURE SUP1311/27611 (LD 0
 (IO 0 (SIZE 8) (BASE 0x02f8))
 (INT 0 (IRQ 3 (MODE +E)))
 (NAME SUP1311/27611[0]{SupraExpress 336i PnP Modem})
 (ACT Y)
))

# Card 2: (serial identifier f5 03 e7 b1 4b 9e 00 8c 0e)
# Vendor Id CTL009e, Serial Number 65515851, checksum 0xF5.
# Version 1.0, Vendor version 2.0
# ANSI string --Creative SB AWE64 Gold--
#
# Logical device id CTL0044
# Device supports vendor reserved register @ 0x39
# Device supports vendor reserved register @ 0x3a
# Device supports vendor reserved register @ 0x3e
#
# Edit the entries below to uncomment out the configuration required.
# Note that only the first value of any range is given, this may be changed if 
required
# Don't forget to uncomment the activate (ACT Y) when happy

(CONFIGURE CTL009e/65515851 (LD 0
# ANSI string --Audio--

# Multiple choice time, choose one only !

 (INT 0 (IRQ 5 (MODE +E)))
 (DMA 0 (CHANNEL 1))
 (DMA 1 (CHANNEL 5))
 (IO 0 (SIZE 16) (BASE 0x0220))
 (IO 1 (SIZE 2) (BASE 0x0330))
 (IO 2 (SIZE 4) (BASE 0x0388))
 (NAME CTL009e/65515851[0]{Audio   })
 (ACT Y)
))

# Compatible device id PNPb02f
# ANSI string --Game--
(CONFIGURE CTL009e/65515851 (LD 1
 (IO 0 (SIZE 8) (BASE 0x0200))
 (NAME CTL009e/65515851[1]{Game})
 (ACT Y)
))

# ANSI string --WaveTable--
(CONFIGURE CTL009e/65515851 (LD 2
 (IO 0 (SIZE 4) (BASE 0x0620))
 (IO 1 (SIZE 4) (BASE 0x0A20))
 (IO 2 (SIZE 4) (BASE 0x0E20))
 (NAME CTL009e/65515851[2]{WaveTable   })
 (ACT Y)
))
# End tag... Checksum 0x00 (OK)

# Returns all cards to the Wait for Key state
(WAITFORKEY)


Frame buffer's stuck

1999-05-08 Thread Jean-Yves BARBIER
Hi,

I tried to start with frame buffer, my ATI Rage Fury (cpu Rage 128 GL) is not
supported by Linux.
I setted everithing as the differents HOWTOz  other .txt said, but when I make
startx, xinit is launched (ok),
but Xvfb -screen 0 1024x768x16 (wich is the mode under I work, saying 0x0317
to the vga=ask of lilo) stay stuck!
I must make a ctrl-c to recover the hand on the console.
Help me, I'm a newbie and I spent the whole week trying to make it work!

Thanks in advance
-- 
Jean-Yves BARBIER
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Les choses ne sont pas toujours ce que l'on voudrait qu'elles soient qu'elles
fussent...
P. DAC


Re: Diald config problems

1999-05-08 Thread Daniel González Gasull
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I think I can't help you too much.  But, did you use pppconfig to set up
your Internet connection?  It's very easy to use.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have tried to figure this one out to no avail. This time on a new
 install. Diald (pppd) has peer refused to authenticate error after
 logging into server. pon works ok.

 Snip!
 May  4 16:38:36 nope kernel: registered device ppp0
 May  4 16:38:37 nope pppd[189]: pppd 2.3.5 started by root, uid 0
 May  4 16:38:37 nope pppd[189]: Using interface ppp0
 May  4 16:38:37 nope pppd[189]: Connect: ppp0 -- /dev/ttyS1
 May  4 16:38:38 nope pppd[189]: peer refused to authenticate
 May  4 16:38:41 nope pppd[189]: Connection terminated.
 May  4 16:38:42 nope pppd[189]: Exit.
 Snip!

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debmake help

1999-05-08 Thread roddie

I'm experimenting with making my first .deb.

The howto's tell me to run build. I can find build anywhere. I have all
the packages. debmake, dpk-dev, dh-make, debhelp but I can't find it.

What am I missing.

Roddie Rod

'Man is the greatest cancer ever to be seen'
-Entombed 'Contempt'





Re: Fwd: Re: Time Keeps A changin'

1999-05-08 Thread roddie
I've done all that. I'm running 2.2.5 kernel, so that rules out the kernel
problem. But, this did happen to me before, maybe if I reinstall the
kernel it will fix it. Today, the time was off by 23 hours? Even the time
difference isn't consistent from day to day.

The funny thing is I did set date and while I was working it drifted back
24 hours. I had to do a ldconfig, maybe that did something. HMMM?

let you know if I figure this one out!

Rod




when you installed (initally) you chose local time didn't you?

SAME thing happened to me. in fact it happened to me TWICE (got a new hard
drive so i had to reinstall, and it did it again!).  i also run potato.
supposedly i was using local time but something kept adjusting my clock.
it was a base system so no i did not install anything that screwed it.

which kernel are you using? oddly enough, when i made and started using a
2.2.X kernel, my time problems stopped. (of course i'm not suggesting
this,
i'm simply wondering if perhaps this time problem is associated somehow 
with
potato and 2.0.36 kernels).

i have no idea how to fix it... mine went away on its own, as i said. i'd
like to know myself!

Roddie Rod

'Man is the greatest cancer ever to be seen'
-Entombed 'Contempt'


Installation problems

1999-05-08 Thread Nic Cottrell
Hi everyone,

This is my first time installing Linux. I've got the Debian packages on CD,
but was forced to install the base systems on floppy disks because the CD
drive was playing up (it's a sbpcd). At reboot it was detected successfully,
but when I got to install the packages from the CD I'm asked for the block
device name for the cd drive. I have no idea what it may be. Is there a way
I can find out.

Also, the ^C key does not work where I am and so the only thing I can do is
type in the correct block name or reboot the system..

Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.

Nic.


Re: Two printers under lp

1999-05-08 Thread Wayne Topa

Subject: Two printers under lp
Date: Fri, May 07, 1999 at 04:46:58PM +

In reply to:Jose L Gomez Dans

Quoting Jose L Gomez Dans([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
 Hi!
   I was wondering whether it's possible to have to printers attached
 to two parallel ports in one Linux machine being served by lp (*NOT* lprng).
 I have this set up right now, and one of them prints fine, the other gets
 stuff if I cat myfile.txt  /dev/lp2. Files are copied to this printer's
 spool directory, but there they stay. If I issue an lpq, the queue appears
 to be empty.
 
   Any clues?
   
   Thanks,
   Jose
 -- 

I have to assume that you do have a prontcap for each file?

If you are running a 2.2.x kernel the printers would be lp0  lp1.

Only thing I can think of.

-- 
As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error.
-- Weisert
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Re: Help with apt

1999-05-08 Thread Wayne Topa

Subject: RE: Help with apt
Date: Fri, May 07, 1999 at 11:20:12AM -0400

In reply to:Jonathan J. Lupa

Quoting Jonathan J. Lupa([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
 Question:  So how do I, running from a slink CD, get and install potato's apt?
 
 If I add entries for 'unstable' in /etc/apt/sources.list, and then go into 
 dselect, it wants to upgrade my world to potato.
 

Or if you do apt-get upgrade  shudder

Add the potato link to sources.list and then just do
apt-get update ( to let apt  dselect know about the potato Package
lists)  then apt-get install apt.

Then I would comment out the potato entry in sources.list, lest I
forget and do apt-get upgrade, and blow the whole thing out!

 Of course, I can always just go download the deb and run dpkg on it, but is 
 there a better way?

Yes, as I said above.

Dselect ? Do people 'still' use that?

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Re: LILO

1999-05-08 Thread Wayne Topa

Subject: Re: LILO
Date: Fri, May 07, 1999 at 09:41:45AM -0700

In reply to:G. Crimp

Quoting G. Crimp([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
 On Fri, May 07, 1999 at 10:00:11AM -0400, Wayne Topa wrote:
  
 
 [snip]
 
   
   # Generated by liloconfig
   
   # Specifies the boot device
   boot=/dev/hda1
   
  
  boot should be the drive not that partition, ie boot = /dev/hda
  
 
   What do you mean by should ?  I have several computers booting
 from a partition boot record, such as hda1 rather than from the MBR such as
 hda.
 

You are correct! :-(

Therefore, the LILO boot sector can be stored at the following locations:

  - boot sector of a Linux floppy disk. (/dev/fd0, ...)
  - MBR of the first hard disk. (/dev/hda, /dev/sda, ...)
  - boot sector of a primary Linux file system partition on the first
hard disk. (/dev/hda1, ...)
  - partition boot sector of an extended partition on the first hard
disk.  (/dev/hda1, ...)*

I had not read that before.  Had always used the MBR. Humm,  sorry
about that.  Also have not heard/read of any doing it that way.  I
have, again, learned something new.  Thanks!

So do 'you' have an answer for Rahsheen ?  I sure don't.


-- 
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programming languages.
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Re: Installation problems

1999-05-08 Thread Peter Ludwig
On Sat, 8 May 1999, Nic Cottrell wrote:

 Hi everyone,

Hello there...


 This is my first time installing Linux. I've got the Debian packages on CD,
 but was forced to install the base systems on floppy disks because the CD
 drive was playing up (it's a sbpcd). At reboot it was detected successfully,
 but when I got to install the packages from the CD I'm asked for the block
 device name for the cd drive. I have no idea what it may be. Is there a way
 I can find out.

When you are installing debian if you press alt-f2 then you should see a
screen with just a short line up the top of the screen, this is another
virtual terminal, and if you press enter (I believe that's the thing,
it's been a while since I installed debian on a system), then you will be
at a command prompt.

Have a look (dir works if you know dos, but it's better to get used to
linux straight up and just type ls) in the /dev directory their should be
a file called sbpcd, and a couple more called sbpcdx (where x is 1-4).

As such the device name for the cdrom drive should be /dev/sbpcd, or if
that does not work try /dev/sbpcd0, /dev/sbpcd1..etc...

This is only an educated guess, as you may need to have a module loaded to
access your cd-rom and if you have not loaded it, then you won't be able
to access it anyway... (During install you should have had to insert a
drivers disk, or something similiar, after that it should have given you
a big listing of things, these are the modules available in the base
distribution (you make others yourself, ie the ones for your soundcard).

If you haven't loaded the module, try changing to another virtual terminal
(there are 6 normally installed in the base setup, where alt-f1 take you
too the first vt), and then running modconf, you'll then be shown the same
program which you should have loaded the module for the cd in the first
time.

 Also, the ^C key does not work where I am and so the only thing I can do is
 type in the correct block name or reboot the system..

Try using ctrl-x during initial install ctrl-c is disabled (at least it
was on my machine, don't know if it is supposed to be or not, but it
prevents accidents grin).

 Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.

That's okay, all I have is ideas, I don't actually own a sbpcd cdrom drive
:) but I did have a phillips lms-205MS (don't ask, and thier isn't a
driver that works for that particular model frown phillips being
stuck-up again...).

Hope this helps,
Peter Ludwig



Re: Help with apt

1999-05-08 Thread Brian Servis
*- On  7 May, Wayne Topa wrote about Re: Help with apt
 
 Or if you do apt-get upgrade  shudder
 
 Add the potato link to sources.list and then just do
 apt-get update ( to let apt  dselect know about the potato Package
 lists)  then apt-get install apt.
 
 Then I would comment out the potato entry in sources.list, lest I
 forget and do apt-get upgrade, and blow the whole thing out!
 
 Of course, I can always just go download the deb and run dpkg on it, but is 
 there a better way?
 
 Yes, as I said above.
 
 Dselect ? Do people 'still' use that?
 

Dselect is great for upgrading in small blocks.  Use it to put whole
sections on hold(=).  This is what I did during the hamm-slink
freeze period when X was going through rapid fire updates.  Also good
for isp's that have quotas on downloads/period.   

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Mouse problems in X-Windows

1999-05-08 Thread Peter Ludwig
I've just recently purchased a new mouse, and it is supposed to be a
three-button mouse (software configurable), but two problems, 1) they
forgot to include the software, and 2) it does not respond to the normal
three button mouse reset codes.

Now, my main problem (I'll be satisfied using it as a two button mouse),
is that quite often when I'm on the internet I've got both an X-session
going, and am doing things on virtual terminals.  Occassionally (it
doesn't happen all the time), when I switch back to X-Windows the mouse
decides to die, it seems to be repetitively pressing the right mouse
button.

Does anyone have any ideas???

The main IC in the mouse is a EM8370BP if this helps...  It's very
generic, and was a cheapie...

Regards,
Peter Ludwig



Possible package breakage?

1999-05-08 Thread James E. Starr
Hi,

  Looking in the potato packages file, I noticed that bsdmainutils
depends on bsdutils(=3.0-0).  The version of bsdutils, in potato,
is 2.9i-1 and recommends bsdmainutils.  Per the packages file, 
bsdmainutils replaces bsdutils(3.0-0).  Is this going to break 
anything?

Thanks,

Jim


Windows won't boot

1999-05-08 Thread Greg Scharrer
I have a 6.4Gb drive that has a 1.6Gb primary partition and a 4.8Gb
extended partition. The extended partition has 3 logical partitions,
each 1.6Gb. Linux is on a separate 1Gb drive on the primary IDE slave. I
want to move linux to the 6.4Gb drive. I cleared the files from the last
logical partition (Windows drive f:). Then I used fdisk (DOS version) to
delete the last logical partition (f:) in the extended partition. Fdisk
said to reboot to make the changes take effect. When I rebooted, the
computer hung on the BIOS setup after the message Verifying DMI pool
data. I have to use the Windows boot floppy to get the machine up. Then
I use loadlin to boot linux (lilo is not configured).

What must I do to get Windows to boot again? What did I do to make the
system not boot?

Thanks for your help.

Greg Scharrer


Re: Time Keeps A changin'

1999-05-08 Thread Damir J. Naden
Hi roddie; unless Mutt is confused, you wrote:
 I've done all that. I'm running 2.2.5 kernel, so that rules out the kernel
 problem. But, this did happen to me before, maybe if I reinstall the
 kernel it will fix it. Today, the time was off by 23 hours? Even the time
 difference isn't consistent from day to day.
 
 The funny thing is I did set date and while I was working it drifted back
 24 hours. I had to do a ldconfig, maybe that did something. HMMM?
 
 let you know if I figure this one out!
 
 Rod

Well, I thought it was just my computer...I'm running slink, but my times are
often off- even if I do a netdate, and adjust the hwclock. Since I haven't
noticed this before I installed enightenment_0.15.4 (w/o gnome!), I thought it
was E or some lib of it doing it, but I have since purged all of the E pkgs,
using only windowmaker, and the clock is still off. I'm using pretty much all
slink system, with libc6 and _not_ libc6.1, and 2.0.36 kernel.
Hope this helps some of you pinpoint the problem,

damir


Re: Windows won't boot

1999-05-08 Thread add|ct|on
boot with a boot disk and run fdisk and tell me what the partition table
says. which partition is marked as active, and what types it thinks they all
are. when you use the floppy, does it give any messages? how do you boot
from the floppy EXACTLY? do you have to type anything, etc, or just type
win? is the slave disk fat16 or fat32, and how did you move the files you
moved? is large disk support enabled (in fdisk youll see it ask that, if you
got the same version i do anyway)? (but then, i suppose if it was linux
wouldnt boot and it does, correct?)

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- Original Message -
From: Greg Scharrer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Sent: Friday, May 07, 1999 11:29 PM
Subject: Windows won't boot


 I have a 6.4Gb drive that has a 1.6Gb primary partition and a 4.8Gb
 extended partition. The extended partition has 3 logical partitions,
 each 1.6Gb. Linux is on a separate 1Gb drive on the primary IDE slave. I
 want to move linux to the 6.4Gb drive. I cleared the files from the last
 logical partition (Windows drive f:). Then I used fdisk (DOS version) to
 delete the last logical partition (f:) in the extended partition. Fdisk
 said to reboot to make the changes take effect. When I rebooted, the
 computer hung on the BIOS setup after the message Verifying DMI pool
 data. I have to use the Windows boot floppy to get the machine up. Then
 I use loadlin to boot linux (lilo is not configured).

 What must I do to get Windows to boot again? What did I do to make the
 system not boot?

 Thanks for your help.

 Greg Scharrer


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Kernel 2.2.5 and make-kpkg

1999-05-08 Thread Jayson Baird
After running make menuconfig, make dep, and make-kpkg clean , and then
finally to build the kernel package: make-kpkg --rev test1 kernel_image

Okay, I know I'll probably give a few people some laughs here..but my .deb
package is no where to be found..I had about a 7 minute wait while the
kernel compiled and poof, no .deb with the Kernel..any ideas?


Jayson S. Baird
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xset - global settings

1999-05-08 Thread Arcady Genkin
Hi all:

I'm experimenting with utilizing xset's dpms setting to suspend and
turn off my monitor. It works fine if I add a line like this:
/usr/X11R6/bin/xset dpms 300 600 900

to my .xsession.

Problem: I would like to go a step further and set this feature to
work even wiht graphical login screen. So that if I boot up my
computer, but don't want to login, the screen would be blanked after
certain time. Which script do I put the setting in?

I tried /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc, /etc/X11/Xsession, and
/etc/X11/wdm/Xstartup_0, but I guess all these scripts are read only
*after* an actual login by a user.

-- 
Arcady Genkin


Re: xosview

1999-05-08 Thread John
Robert V. MacQuarrie wrote:
 
 Has anyone been able to get xosview to run on a 2.2.x kernel system? I
 currently have a Dual P200 system with Debian 2.1. Since updating to the
 2.2.5 kernel I have not been able to use xosview at all. It starts but
 does not display anything at all and I have to kill the process.


Robert,

I have the 2.2.5 kernel running on both slink and hamm. Xosview on the
slink disk doesn't work. It seems to be using up the cpu, but no
display. On the hamm disk, however, it runs. The problem may be with
slink or the slink/2.2.5 combination rather than the kernel itself?

John Carline


 I have
 the Version: 1.6.1-4 of xosview installed right now and have tried all
 other debian versions to no avail.
 
 I've noticed while reading some archive lists via the web that the older
 versions had a problem with the 2.2.x kernels but i havent found any
 reference to what the problem was or if there has been a fix to it.
 
 I find this a great little resource and would love to be able to get it to
 work again. Any help on this would be greatly appreciated.
 
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Re: Time Keeps A changin'

1999-05-08 Thread add|ct|on

as i said i had the same problems with slink. as i replied privately to
roddie, this time problem i had in slink coincided with the breaking of my
linker. i really don't know WHAT caused it, but every time i used apt to try
to upgrade to potato it broke my linker and my time was messed up. in the
end i gave up and installed a potato base, and both broke again in the same
exact manner when i upgraded my linker with apt. i concluded that if i start
with potato and don't upgrade anything having to do with ldso or the linker
in any way, it stops that problem. still i can't figure out what a linker
would have to do with time! perhaps its something in libc6 that was clashing
with the potato packages. no dependency problems were reported and
everything went smoothly but it broke on me over and over in the end i
gave up on slink. potato is working great for me, even with libc6.1. in fact
it seems more stable than my slink was. maybe i'm just lucky? or maybe there
was a faulty .deb package at the time i was using apt to try to upgrade? its
an interesting dilemma for sure...and stranger still, the breaking of my
slink system seemed to be caused by apt.. if i didnt use apt to install
anything, it was fine. shrug anyone else with an odd time problem, or who
has experienced it, please give input. thanks!

- Original Message -
From: Damir J. Naden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Sent: Saturday, May 08, 1999 12:18 AM
Subject: Re: Time Keeps A changin'


 Hi roddie; unless Mutt is confused, you wrote:
  I've done all that. I'm running 2.2.5 kernel, so that rules out the
kernel
  problem. But, this did happen to me before, maybe if I reinstall the
  kernel it will fix it. Today, the time was off by 23 hours? Even the
time
  difference isn't consistent from day to day.
 
  The funny thing is I did set date and while I was working it drifted
back
  24 hours. I had to do a ldconfig, maybe that did something. HMMM?
 
  let you know if I figure this one out!
 
  Rod

 Well, I thought it was just my computer...I'm running slink, but my times
are
 often off- even if I do a netdate, and adjust the hwclock. Since I haven't
 noticed this before I installed enightenment_0.15.4 (w/o gnome!), I
thought it
 was E or some lib of it doing it, but I have since purged all of the E
pkgs,
 using only windowmaker, and the clock is still off. I'm using pretty much
all
 slink system, with libc6 and _not_ libc6.1, and 2.0.36 kernel.
 Hope this helps some of you pinpoint the problem,

 damir


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Unidentified subject!

1999-05-08 Thread jason
in what package can i find ieee854.h ?? 

thanks



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Modules after kernel upgrade.

1999-05-08 Thread Hans van den Boogert
I use Debian 2.1 with kernel 2.0.36.

I baked a new kernel for use with my AWE64 Soundblaster. In the process it
was adviced to rename /lib/modules/2.0.36 to /lib/modules/2.0.36-old before
installing the new kernel package. After intstalling there was a new
/lib/modules/2.0.36 directory, but essential files like ps2aux.o were
missing, making me have to live without a mouse now. 

Do I have to bake a new kernel now for these modules to be included and
automatically activated, or can I still remedy the situation afterwards.
Understand the kernel needs to trigger these modules, but how is that
exactly done? With a initiating file maybe? I hope anybody can give some
background apart from a workable solution.

Have a nice weekend.

Hans


Re: What is the good tool to debug for segmentation error

1999-05-08 Thread Havoc Pennington

On Fri, 7 May 1999, Min Xu wrote:
 
 I tried that. It gives me:
 
...
 Core was generated by `a.out'.
 Program terminated with signal 11, Segmentation fault.
 Reading symbols from /lib/libm.so.6...done.
 Reading symbols from /lib/libc.so.6...done.
 Reading symbols from /lib/ld-linux.so.2...done.
 #0  0x4000a0dd in fixup ()
 (gdb) where
 #0  0x4000a0dd in fixup ()
 #1  0x4000a310 in   ()
 (gdb) 
 
 The function fixup() is not in the hoc program. Then where it comes?
 

Either libm.so.6, libc.so.6, or ld-linux.so.2. 

Looking at that, your program never even got off the ground. Most likely
it is using binary incompatible libraries or the executable is corrupted
or something like that. Doesn't look like a programming error to me (but
it could be, it's just a guess).

I would try make clean and rebuilding the software from scratch, to be
sure some kind of build error isn't breaking things. 

Havoc




Re: Newbie: Installation problems

1999-05-08 Thread John Pearson
On %M 0, Sudhir P wrote
 Hi,
 
 Please excuse me for the wide distribution. And do excuse me for not
 being able to give the exact technical terms in the following. I have
 tried to explain the situation to the best extent that I can (now).
 
 My present set up:
 --
 I have an i586 system in which I have dos, linux (Redhat and Debian)
 installed (after lot of goof-ups and struggles, being a novice that I
 am).
 
 The partition details are as follows
 /dev/hda1 - DOS
 /dev/hda2 - Linux partition (I suppose, I am not very confortable with
 this naming
 convention, so please excuse me)
 /dev/hda5 - RedHat Linux (kernel - 2.0.36)
 /dev/hda6 - Swap space (common to both Redhat and Debian)
 /dev/hda7 - Debian Linux (kernel - 2.0.36)
 
 The MBR contains the LILO. My lilo.conf in /dev/hda5 (Redhat) contains
 details of the setup, and the details about Debian kernel (being present
 in /dev/hda7, boot-label=debian). I am assuming that this is where it
 is taking information from when I type debian at my lilo prompt, the
 kernel being loaded from /dev/hda7.
 
 Dos (Windows-95) and Redhat are fully operational. There is some problem
 with debian however.
 
 I am not able to go beyond the base-kernel installation. I have
 configured in the kernel to support cd-roms with the common CD-ROMs
 option that is available for CD-ROM device drivers.
 
 There is a part of the installation where u have to give details about
 the access medium (default being /dev/cdrom). When I accept this as my
 default or even type in /dev/cdrom, it is reported as an error. It
 says that it is unable to find the device (even though installation is
 going on from the device).
 
 If I go to another virtual-terminal and try: mount /dev/cdrom, 
 it gives an error message stating that there is no entry in the
 /etc/fstab. If I make an entry in the same, and issue mount
 /dev/cdroom, an error message stating that the kernel doesn't support
 this filesystem (iso9660) is issued.
 
 I am unable to go beyond this. No packages are being installed as I
 haven't been able to specify /dev/cdrom as my source.
 

There are several things you should check:
  - Does /dev/cdrom actually exist?
  - Is it a symlink pointing to your CDROM drive (e.g., - /dev/hdb)?
  - Is isofs module loaded?  Can you load it with 'modprobe isofs'?
  - Is your entry for /dev/cdrom in /etc/fstab correct?  It should look
something like
 /dev/cdrom /cdrom iso9660 defaults,ro 0  0
  - Does the mount point listed in /etc/fstab (/cdrom, in the example
above) exist (and is it a directory)?
  - Can you mount /dev/cdrom now, after checking the above?
 - If so, *and* you were able to load the isofs module manually, 
   then either add 'isofs' to /etc/modules, or install kerneld.

Hope this helps,


John P.
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bash functions

1999-05-08 Thread blutgens
Reply-To: 
While doing some reading, I came across a section regarding adding functions
to .bash_profile like this 
tarc () { tar -cvzf $1.tar.gz $1 }
but whenever I try to source the .bash_profile I get syntax error, unexpected
EOF messages. The article was old and I assume that bash no loger supports
this syntax, I messed around with this quite a bit and can't seem to make it
work. Can anyone offer me advice on this subject? I think these functions
would be quite handy.

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as the wind blows out candles and fans fires.
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help on configring smail

1999-05-08 Thread Shao Zhang
Hi,
I tried this for many times and still does not work.

Some sites do a smtp look up and I cannot send mails to these sites 
because
my local domain name is not qualified. How do I fix this?? By putting
a qualified domain name does not fix the problem.

Here is the error message:

|- Failed addresses follow: 
-|   
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... transport smtp: 551 [EMAIL PROTECTED]... 
invalid host name virge,check your
 +configuration.
|- Message text follows: 
|   

Thanks.

Shao.

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Re: Unidentified subject!

1999-05-08 Thread add|ct|on
what i do to find specific files in packages is go to http://www.debian.org,
packages area, and near the bottom there's 2 searches. first is for
packages, second one you can look for specific files IN dists. works for me.

quote o' the day:
I got sucked into /dev/null


- Original Message -
From: jason [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
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 in what package can i find ieee854.h ??

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Re: xosview

1999-05-08 Thread Wayne Topa

Subject: xosview
Date: Fri, May 07, 1999 at 03:42:50PM -0500

In reply to:Robert V. MacQuarrie

Quoting Robert V. MacQuarrie([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
 
 Has anyone been able to get xosview to run on a 2.2.x kernel system? I
 currently have a Dual P200 system with Debian 2.1. Since updating to the
 2.2.5 kernel I have not been able to use xosview at all. It starts but
 does not display anything at all and I have to kill the process. I have
 the Version: 1.6.1-4 of xosview installed right now and have tried all
 other debian versions to no avail.
 
 I've noticed while reading some archive lists via the web that the older
 versions had a problem with the 2.2.x kernels but i havent found any
 reference to what the problem was or if there has been a fix to it.
 
 I find this a great little resource and would love to be able to get it to
 work again. Any help on this would be greatly appreciated.
 

Its been dead here since I went to 2.2.2.  Doesn't show up on the
screen but checking ps or top, it was using over 96% of the cpu.

Think I read in the Debian Weekly News that the author had been told
of the problem and was working on it.

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usual way.  This happens to us all the time with computers, and nobody
thinks of complaining.
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Re: bash functions

1999-05-08 Thread Havoc Pennington

On Fri, 7 May 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 While doing some reading, I came across a section regarding adding functions
 to .bash_profile like this 
 tarc () { tar -cvzf $1.tar.gz $1 }
 but whenever I try to source the .bash_profile I get syntax error, unexpected
 EOF messages. 

Just move the close brace down to the next line and it works for me.

Havoc



Re: Pico.

1999-05-08 Thread Fu-Dong Chiou
Thanks a lot for the info.

Chip

Bruce Sass wrote:
 
 You can get pine/pico/pilot binary .debs (3.96 and 4.10) from:
 
   http://www.ompages.com/debian/pkgs/pine/pine.html
 
 [Thanks to Santiago for making the source packages,
  and to Paul for compiling and making them available.]
 
 
 - Bruce
 
 -- 
 On Thu, 6 May 1999, Fu-Dong Chiou wrote:
 
  Hi all,
  
  I was wondering if anyone can tell me why I cannot find a simple editor 
  pico on my Debian 2.1r2 packages.  Thanks a lot!
  
  Best wishes,
  Chip 
 


Best wishes,
Chip 



[TESTME] Mozilla M4 .deb

1999-05-08 Thread Josip Rodin
Hi everyone,

Me and Brent Fulgham managed to get Mozilla (nescaffe 5.0 prerelease
for those who don't know) milestone four (M4) Debian package ready
for wider testing. Please, download the .debs (two are needed, mozilla
and libnspr21) from here:

http://www.debian.org/~joy/mozilla/

If there are no larger problems (i.e. no doesn't-run or instant coredumps),
it'll go into potato. We'd appreciate if any porters would try to recompile
the source (all of which can be found in the same directory).

Anything related to these packages should NOT be reported to the BTS, but
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (or, if you prefer {joy,[EMAIL PROTECTED]).

Happy testing!

P.S. yes, I DO know that M5 is out! :) We'll package that soon, when
M4 works...

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The Null-Modem cable info

1999-05-08 Thread Hans Dumbrajs
Hi!
Here is all the stufff that you need if you want to connect a win95 (I
dunno if the modem.inf works with win98, but you can try) box to your
linux box with a null modem cable and pppd.

The modem.inf file attached is not my own work. I just added a line
there to get it running with pppd. Much credit goes to the original
author, but I don't know who he/she is.
The modem.inf file contains 3 drivers. The Generic NULL modem driver
is the correct one.

The perl scribt pppcontrol, and the shell script startppp go into /sbin
on your linux box.
The perl script supplied is acctually not nessecerry. You can equally
well use cron to do what it does.
The pppcontrol script is started in one of your rc files with
/sbin/pppcontrol . What it does is simply looping forever and
checking that the pppd is running on the linux box. I couldn't get the
persist option working with pppd, if you get it working you don't need
the perl script.
As I said pppcontrol loops all the time and checks every 30 secs if pppd
is running (It assumes /usr/sbin/pppd to be the path). If pppd is not
running anymore it will call startppp to get pppd back up again. The
reason why you need a script to check if pppd is running is simply
because pppd will exit with an LCP config request timeout after a while
because your win95 box is switched of or something.

You might want to change the network options in startppp to your liking.

pppd opions:
local Means that you don't use a modem.
noauth is used so you don't have to enter any user name and password on
the win95 maschine. If you want authentication, change it.
nocrtcts disables hardware flow control.
xonxoff enables software flow control

Configuring the win95 box:
Of course you need to enter all the network options correctly in win95
dun.. like the IP address.
If you use the noauth option in pppd, it doesn't matter what you enter
as username and password.
As a phone number just enter anything.. I don't remember if you can
leave the field empty or not. Just enter 123.
What I did to get my win95 laptop to automatically log in to my linux
box at startup was this:
There is checkbox somewhere in DUN (don't remeber where) that disables
the confirmation you have to click every time you open a DUN connection.
Check that, and then simply trow a Shortcut into you StartMenu\Startup
folder to the DUN connection.

I hope you can make some sense out of this.. For any clarification
please e-mail me!
Of course you can change as much as you want to my scripts and the rest.
As I said the modem.inf file is acctually not my own work.
Please let me know if you got it working!

--
Hans Dumbrajs / [EMAIL PROTECTED]
attachment: pppd-dun.zip


Re: The Null-Modem cable info

1999-05-08 Thread Hans Dumbrajs
Hans Dumbrajs wrote:

 Hi!
 Here is all the stufff that you need if you want to connect a win95 (I
 dunno if the modem.inf works with win98, but you can try) box to your
 linux box with a null modem cable and pppd.

 The modem.inf file attached is not my own work. I just added a line
 there to get it running with pppd. Much credit goes to the original
 author, but I don't know who he/she is.
 The modem.inf file contains 3 drivers. The Generic NULL modem driver
 is the correct one.

 The perl scribt pppcontrol, and the shell script startppp go into /sbin
 on your linux box.
 The perl script supplied is acctually not nessecerry. You can equally
 well use cron to do what it does.
 The pppcontrol script is started in one of your rc files with
 /sbin/pppcontrol . What it does is simply looping forever and
 checking that the pppd is running on the linux box. I couldn't get the
 persist option working with pppd, if you get it working you don't need
 the perl script.
 As I said pppcontrol loops all the time and checks every 30 secs if pppd
 is running (It assumes /usr/sbin/pppd to be the path). If pppd is not
 running anymore it will call startppp to get pppd back up again. The
 reason why you need a script to check if pppd is running is simply
 because pppd will exit with an LCP config request timeout after a while
 because your win95 box is switched of or something.

 You might want to change the network options in startppp to your liking.

 pppd opions:
 local Means that you don't use a modem.
 noauth is used so you don't have to enter any user name and password on
 the win95 maschine. If you want authentication, change it.
 nocrtcts disables hardware flow control.
 xonxoff enables software flow control

 Configuring the win95 box:
 Of course you need to enter all the network options correctly in win95
 dun.. like the IP address.
 If you use the noauth option in pppd, it doesn't matter what you enter
 as username and password.
 As a phone number just enter anything.. I don't remember if you can
 leave the field empty or not. Just enter 123.
 What I did to get my win95 laptop to automatically log in to my linux
 box at startup was this:
 There is checkbox somewhere in DUN (don't remeber where) that disables
 the confirmation you have to click every time you open a DUN connection.
 Check that, and then simply trow a Shortcut into you StartMenu\Startup
 folder to the DUN connection.

 I hope you can make some sense out of this.. For any clarification
 please e-mail me!
 Of course you can change as much as you want to my scripts and the rest.
 As I said the modem.inf file is acctually not my own work.
 Please let me know if you got it working!

 --
 Hans Dumbrajs / [EMAIL PROTECTED]

   
Name: pppd-dun.zip
pppd-dun.zipType: Zip Compressed Data (application/x-zip-compressed)
Encoding: base64

I forgot an important thing: Don't forget to set your serial port on the win95
box to use XON/XOFF!! Otherwise you're get crappy performance. I get about
11k/sec now which is really good for a 115200 serial port.


Re: ZIP drive and kernel 2.2?

1999-05-08 Thread Debian Mail
 Did you compile support for the parallel port and for the correct type of
 Zip drive -- ppa or imm?

No, since I use kernel 2.2.5 comming from potato. There is however a
ppa module comming with that kernel, but I can_t just say insmod ppa,
because then I get a device or ressource bussy error.

Stef


Re: Motif headers?

1999-05-08 Thread J.H.M. Dassen
On Fri, May 07, 1999 at 18:01:39 +0200, Stefano Stabilini wrote:
 Is there something like a free runtime version of Motif around?

No. For commercial Motif versions, you need to pay money for using the
shared lib.

 Would Lesstif just do fine?

That depends on the Motif version the code expects. It's certainly worth a
try.

HTH,
Ray
-- 
Tevens ben ik van mening dat Nederland overdekt dient te worden.


Re: Via chipset problems

1999-05-08 Thread Colin Tree


 Original Message 

On 5/7/99, 1:26:27 AM, Bob Nielsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote 
regarding Re: Via chipset problems:

Hi Bob,
try   use DMA by default when available.
Thanks I think I've spotted it don't use ^.
I'm not going to try it again. 

Spose I should find out how to boot from floppy to run e2fsck,
then can e2fsck fix problems it finds ?


Cheers,
Colin Tree

 On Thu, May 06, 1999 at 11:57:25AM +0300, Heikki Ylipiessa wrote:
  On Thu, 6 May 1999, Colin Tree wrote:
 
   Hi,
  Yo!
 I have a K6II-350 on a motherboard which
   has a Via Apollo MVP3 chipset. I tried kernel 2.2.1 a
   couple of times. If I select via82c586 chipset support
   and PCI bus-master DMA support, it stuffs the whole
   file system. I patched it up to 2.2.7, still the same
   problem.
  
   Has anyone else seen this?
   Who do I report it to?
   Is there a kernel group?
 
  I had similar problems .. but when i disabled the VIA support
  nb after that .
  so the problem is with via driver .
  Don't know whos work is it .. but i hope someone will do
  something about this BUG asap.

 What are the symptoms of this?  I just recompiled 2.2.7 with via 
support
 to take a look.  So far I don't see any problems.






dependencies

1999-05-08 Thread Matthew McFarlane
I'm getting these errors... yet I have these files in /lib/

 failed dependencies:
ld-linux.so.2 is needed by XFree86_3DFX-SVGA-3.3.3-4
libc.so.6 is needed by XFree86_3DFX-SVGA-3.3.3-4
libdl.so.2 is needed by XFree86_3DFX-SVGA-3.3.3-4
libm.so.6 is needed by XFree86_3DFX-SVGA-3.3.3-4
XFree86-VGA16 is needed by XFree86_3DFX-XF86Setup-3.3.3-4
/bin/sh   is needed by XFree86_3DFX-XF86Setup-3.3.3-4
ld-linux.so.2 is needed by XFree86_3DFX-XF86Setup-3.3.3-4
libICE.so.6 is needed by XFree86_3DFX-XF86Setup-3.3.3-4
libSM.so.6 is needed by XFree86_3DFX-XF86Setup-3.3.3-4
libX11.so.6 is needed by XFree86_3DFX-XF86Setup-3.3.3-4
libXaw.so.6 is needed by XFree86_3DFX-XF86Setup-3.3.3-4
libXext.so.6 is needed by XFree86_3DFX-XF86Setup-3.3.3-4
libXmu.so.6 is needed by XFree86_3DFX-XF86Setup-3.3.3-4
libXt.so.6 is needed by XFree86_3DFX-XF86Setup-3.3.3-4
libc.so.6 is needed by XFree86_3DFX-XF86Setup-3.3.3-4
libdl.so.2 is needed by XFree86_3DFX-XF86Setup-3.3.3-4
libm.so.6 is needed by XFree86_3DFX-XF86Setup-3.3.3-4
libtcl.so is needed by XFree86_3DFX-XF86Setup-3.3.3-4
libtk.so is needed by XFree86_3DFX-XF86Setup-3.3.3-4
/bin/sh is needed by XFree86_3DFX-XF86Setup-3.3.3-4
/bin/sh   is needed by XFree86_3DFX-rushlib-3.3.3-4
ld-linux.so.2 is needed by XFree86_3DFX-rushlib-3.3.3-4
libc.so.6 is needed by XFree86_3DFX-rushlib-3.3.3-4


Matthew McFarlane
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Re: debmake help

1999-05-08 Thread David Z. Maze
roddie  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
roddie I'm experimenting with making my first .deb.
roddie 
roddie The howto's tell me to run build. I can find build anywhere. I
roddie have all the packages. debmake, dpk-dev, dh-make, debhelp but
roddie I can't find it.

'build' changed its name in version 2.0.0 of the devscripts package to 
'debuild'.  Try installing the devscripts package, if you haven't
already, and reading its README file.

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Hey, Doug, do you mind if I push the Emergency Booth Self-Destruct Button?
Oh, sure, Dave, whatever...you _do_ know what that does, right?


8 Newbie Questions

1999-05-08 Thread André Bell
I just installed debian about three days ago and have several questions
about navigating within debian and about accessing devices. If you can help
me with one or more of these questions it would be greatly appreciated as I
am growing a bit frustrated with not knowing what I am doing :)

1) How do I move from one partitioned drive to another? How do I know the
drive letters to use too?

2) How do I copy files from my floppy drive to my partitioned debian drive?

3) Why does debian say 'only the root can do that' when I type the line below:
  $ mount /dev/fd0 (or any other floppy drive)
 I can't cd /dev/fd0 nor can I figure out how to access it.

4) How can i get a network connection or simulated network connection
between my win95 pc  debin pc via serial or via their modems? Windows
allows direct connect with other windows pc, what can I use with debian?

5) How determine hardware which is functioning properly and how determine
which kernels need to be removed or changed? I know with windows I had
device manager and msd.exe.  What do I have with debian?

6) How change kernels once I know the above? I'd like to remove the devices
that I installed to the kernels during inital installation of debian but
don't actually have in my system yet. I also want to add a new serial card
since I never set one up when I installed debian. The new serial card is
now in the pc. I don't know how to do this after the fact.  I type
'setserial' and a bunch of stuff scrolls by that doesn't make sense to me yet.

7) Why can't I access my floppy after booting from it?  I have /floppy on
my system. I can see it by cd / and then typing ls. When I cd to /floppy
and then try to write to it I get 'permission denied'. I read from it
without error messages, it appears to be an empty directory.  I can't
access either of my physical floppy drives attached to my system when I
read from it with ls commands and /dev/fd(x).

8) Do I have to regularly compile my own linux software?  Aren't binaries
available like with dos and windows? So much linux software on 
the net that I've seen isn't in binary format, it's rpm or plain source 
format.  Is this standard for linux software? Can I use these with debian 2.1?

* I hope you don't think I just posted without looking for the answers
online. I've visited over 500 sites online, I've downloaded 40+ apps but
can't use them because they are stuck on my win95 system or floppies, tried
to access 'man man' to read the manual (but get an error can't open the
manpath configuration file /etc/manpath.config), I've read the help menu
by typing 'help' and then hitting CONTROL-Z to stop it from scrolling off
the screen and then type each command to see if I can figure out what they
do, and still haven't found the answers to my questions.  

I hope you can help.  Thanks in advance!

Andre
p.s. I've already downloaded mtools but since I can't copy the mtools files
from the floppy to my partitioned debian drive, I'm stuck!!!

My debian pc seems to be up and running just fine, I just can't do this or
any other commands to the floppy:  
  $ ls -a /dev/fp0 

The floppy disk drive light doesn't even light up on when entering
commands. This indicates that maybe the drive is not mounted properly in my
linux system (I'm guessing), though I boot into my linux system from floppy
just fine.  :(

 
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Re: bash functions

1999-05-08 Thread Wayne Topa

Subject: bash functions
Date: Fri, May 07, 1999 at 10:27:23PM -0800

In reply to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
 Reply-To: 
 While doing some reading, I came across a section regarding adding functions
 to .bash_profile like this 
 tarc () { tar -cvzf $1.tar.gz $1 }
 but whenever I try to source the .bash_profile I get syntax error, unexpected
 EOF messages. The article was old and I assume that bash no loger supports
 this syntax, I messed around with this quite a bit and can't seem to make it
 work. Can anyone offer me advice on this subject? I think these functions
 would be quite handy.
 

It took me awhile to find the answer to this one myself.  As I recall
it started when I went to bash 2.xx. Here is what I used to fix them
up

#extract an archive
tarx() { tar xzvf $1; }

#make (create) an archive
tarc() { tar czvf $1.tar.gz $1; }

As you can see it was the ;

 
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One good reason why computers can do more work than people is that they
never have to stop and answer the phone.
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Re: Kernel 2.2.5 and make-kpkg

1999-05-08 Thread Martin Bialasinski

 JB == Jayson Baird [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

JB Okay, I know I'll probably give a few people some laughs here..but
JB my .deb package is no where to be found..I had about a 7 minute
JB wait while the kernel compiled and poof, no .deb with the
JB Kernel..any ideas?

They are created one directory level above.

cd ..
ls kernel-image*.deb

Ciao,
Martin


Apt still not working

1999-05-08 Thread sballard
Okay, this is getting frustrating :( Please, if anyone has any ideas, I
would really appreciate them.

I now have two computers installed from the same set of official slink
CDs (burned from the official images). I must be doing something *really*
stupid, because they are both misbehaving in exactly the same way.

After some poking around in /var/lib/dpkg/available, etc, I have been able
to narrow down the problem to the following: apt is only registering the
availability of contrib and non-free, but not main. All the entries in
available have either Section: contrib/xxx or Section: non-free/xxx.

The procedure I went through during install is as follows (maybe I missed
some step that should have been obvious...)

Boot from first CD, go through install procedure, etc.
Select tasks.
Go into dselect in the install procedure.
Choose multi-cd as the method.
Select the paths.
Update list of packages.
Skip the select page, and go straight to install.
Answer all the packages questions.
Do the configure and remove steps, just in case.
Quit dselect.
Use the system (it works fine at this point - all the packages are there)
do apt-get update - appears to work fine
do apt-get install (anything in main) no installation candidate
do apt-get install (anything in contrib/non-free) [usually] unmet
  dependencies

Going into dselect and changing the method to apt acquisition makes no
difference. Changing the sources.list lines to say unstable instead of
stable also makes no difference.

Here are the exact lines from sources.list on one of the computers:

deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free
deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable non-US

Thank you in advance for any help,
Stuart.


xwindows wanted

1999-05-08 Thread André Bell
Is xwindows already installed on my system when I installed debian 2.1?  I
can't seem to find it by cd / and then reading the subdirectories from there.

If it's not there, where can I download it from?  I've visited over 500
sites over the last week looking for it and I'll I can find are programs
which require xwindows and people who are trying to sell me stuff -- I've
obviously looked at the wrong 500 sites :(

Can you help?!?

Thanks!

Andre


Re: bash functions

1999-05-08 Thread André Bell
Does bash contain a pause feature other than control-z?

When I type 'help' the screen scrolls past and control-z doesn't stop the
top few lines from scrolling away before I can read them.  with dos I'd
just type 'dir /p' or type 'filename |more'

Are there equivalent set of commands for bash?

Thanks!

Andre'


At 10:27 PM 5/7/99 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Reply-To: 
While doing some reading, I came across a section regarding adding functions
to .bash_profile like this 
tarc () { tar -cvzf $1.tar.gz $1 }
but whenever I try to source the .bash_profile I get syntax error, unexpected
EOF messages. The article was old and I assume that bash no loger supports
this syntax, I messed around with this quite a bit and can't seem to make it
work. Can anyone offer me advice on this subject? I think these functions
would be quite handy.

-- 
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as the wind blows out candles and fans fires.
-- La Rochefoucauld


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Re: PCI Soundblaster card?

1999-05-08 Thread Andrew Holmes
Hi,

Thanks, I've still got the 2.2.0 archive so I'll just get the patch. A 13 meg
download would give me a headache :-)
-- 
Andy Holmes

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

The path of my life is strewn with cow pats from the devil's own satanic 
herd!, Edmund Blackadder


Re: 8 Newbie Questions

1999-05-08 Thread Peter Makholm
André Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 1) How do I move from one partitioned drive to another? How do I know the
 drive letters to use too?

There is no such thing as drive letters.

Partitions ar mounted around in the directory structure and you move
around just like on any other directory.

 2) How do I copy files from my floppy drive to my partitioned debian drive?

Either you mount it (on /floppy) or uses mcopy from the mtools
package.


 3) Why does debian say 'only the root can do that' when I type the line below:
   $ mount /dev/fd0 (or any other floppy drive)
  I can't cd /dev/fd0 nor can I figure out how to access it.

Because only root may mount devices as default.

Edit you /etc/fstab and put auto as an option in the line mentioning
/dev/fd0.

Please read man fstab first.

 5) How determine hardware which is functioning properly and how determine
 which kernels need to be removed or changed? I know with windows I had
 device manager and msd.exe.  What do I have with debian?

Use the hardware. If it works - it works.

You probally can get som information out of /proc/devices and such
files.


 6) How change kernels once I know the above? I'd like to remove the devices

Install kernel-package and a kernel-source and read the documentation
for kernel-package.

 7) Why can't I access my floppy after booting from it?  I have /floppy on

You havn't mounted you floppy.

#mount /dev/fd0 /floppy

as root should do it. But read man fstab it make it possible to
mount the floppy as non-root.

 8) Do I have to regularly compile my own linux software?  Aren't binaries

No. Almost any software you ever need exist as debian packages on
www.debian.org.

If you really really really need something that aint packaged for
debian please say so. Probally others needs it as well.


 p.s. I've already downloaded mtools but since I can't copy the mtools files
 from the floppy to my partitioned debian drive, I'm stuck!!!

How did you install debian?

Are you sure you didn't allready have mtools installed?


Read some book about unix. I'm very sorry but you seem rather clueless
on some fundemental stuff and then its hard to help.

-- 
Peter er den mindst gamle af de gammeldags usenettere, og moderator på
den eneste modererede gruppe i dk.*, so there.
- citat RockBear


Re: bash functions

1999-05-08 Thread Peter Makholm
André Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Does bash contain a pause feature other than control-z?

try:

$ command | less

where command is what you want to do.

-- 
Peter er den mindst gamle af de gammeldags usenettere, og moderator på
den eneste modererede gruppe i dk.*, so there.
- citat RockBear


gimp: gif support?

1999-05-08 Thread Joel Gautschi
I didn't found any gif support in gimp of slink. is that because of the
licence of gif or what? before I installed I used suse 6.0... and there
gif support in gimp.
Is there a possiblity how I can get gif support in gimp with debian 2.1
(slink)?

thanks and regrads,
--
Joel Gautschi
aka J-freak / Carrots
http://www.game-over.ch/ (german)


Re: xwindows wanted

1999-05-08 Thread Peter Makholm
André Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Is xwindows already installed on my system when I installed debian 2.1?  I
 can't seem to find it by cd / and then reading the subdirectories from there.

It probally is. (I don't remember what a standard installation looks
like.)

Try looking at /usr/X11R6/

Before using Xwindow you need to configure it. You could do this with
/usr/X11R6/XF86Setup or /usr/X11R6/bin/xf86configure.

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den eneste modererede gruppe i dk.*, so there.
- citat RockBear


Re: xwindows wanted

1999-05-08 Thread Ben Collins
On Sat, May 08, 1999 at 07:05:43AM -0500, André Bell wrote:
 Is xwindows already installed on my system when I installed debian 2.1?  I
 can't seem to find it by cd / and then reading the subdirectories from there.

 If it's not there, where can I download it from?  I've visited over 500
 sites over the last week looking for it and I'll I can find are programs
 which require xwindows and people who are trying to sell me stuff -- I've
 obviously looked at the wrong 500 sites :(

 Can you help?!?

login to your system and type XF86Setup, this will take you through the
graphical X setup. After your done you can just type startx to run X.

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Re: 8 Newbie Questions

1999-05-08 Thread William R Pentney
On 8 May 1999, Peter Makholm wrote:
  3) Why does debian say 'only the root can do that' when I type the line 
  below:
$ mount /dev/fd0 (or any other floppy drive)
   I can't cd /dev/fd0 nor can I figure out how to access it.
 
 Because only root may mount devices as default.
 
 Edit you /etc/fstab and put auto as an option in the line mentioning
 /dev/fd0.
 
 Please read man fstab first.

If you don't want to mount the drive for the entire session, you could
also just try the following:

su  (enter password when prompted)
mount /dev/fd0 /floppy   (replace /floppy with whatever directory u want)
exit

Or you could enter just sudo mount /dev/fd0 /floppy if you use sudo.

The drawback of this is that you must be root to write the floppy.

 No. Almost any software you ever need exist as debian packages on
 www.debian.org.
 
 If you really really really need something that aint packaged for
 debian please say so. Probally others needs it as well.

U ... not true. I've come across a lot of software I'd like that isn't
in .deb packages anywhere - or the packages are poorly maintained, like
the KDE ones. Am I just not looking hard enough?

- Bill



Re: bash functions

1999-05-08 Thread William R Pentney
On Sat, 8 May 1999, [iso-8859-1] André Bell wrote:

Ctrl-Z isn't really a pause feature, actually. What it does is suspend a
process. You can use the more command in bash, too:

cat filename | more(replace filename with file)
man subject | more (replace subject with manual page)

However, the less command is more powerful - it lets you move back and
forth through the file, search it, etc:

cat filename | less

Type man less for more info.

- Bill


Re: gimp: gif support?

1999-05-08 Thread KaHa
Joel Gautschi wrote:
 I didn't found any gif support in gimp of slink. is that because of
 the licence of gif or what?

Yup; that's exactly why. To provide the Gimp with gif support, you
need to get and install the gimp-nonfree package from non-free.

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Re: Exim + Procmail + Mutt

1999-05-08 Thread J Horacio M G
~ Exim is kind of like a MTA+MDA in one; to a degree, it does what
~ smail+procmail does.

I fear that the to a degree bit will be meaningful here.

~ That in mind, you can uninstall procmail, and have exim do all of your
~ mail sorting.  (You'll need take your procmail recipies, convert them
~ to exim's language, and stick them in your ~/.forward.)

Just a bit lost here... all I have to do is create an empty ~/.forward
file, and rewrite my procmail recipes into it?  is that all, or do I
have to tell exim to look for (and where is) .forward?

~ For example, here is what I have in my ~/.forward to filter this
~ mailing lists' posts:

~ # Exim filter
~ #  take care of mailing list debian-user
~ if
~$header_X-Mailing-List: contains debian-user@lists.debian.org
~ then
~save my_mail_directory/debian-user
~ finish
~ endif
~ # enf of debian-user filter

~ This works, although I think I liked smail+procmail better,
~ personally.  shrug

Agreed... well, sort of;  may be exim works better than smail, and I'll
probably be glad I changed the MTA, but somehow I feel uncomfortable
with droping procmail as my MDA.  Ummh, I think I'll try to get by with
Exim for a while until I learn how to install and configure Qmail, which
I think it interacts well with Procmail.

Meanwhile, I used to have this in my ~/.procmailrc:

PATH=$HOME/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/bin:.
MAILDIR=~/Mail
LOGDIR=/var/log
DEFAULT=$MAILDIR/mbox
LOGFILE=$LOGDIR/procmail.log
LOCKFILE=$HOME/.lockmail

which would make mail go to ~/Mail/ instead of /var/spool/mail/user, and
then the tipical procmail recipes to process mail to the different
mailboxes within ~/Mail/;  and ~/Mail/mbox as the default mailbox where
non rule processed mail would go to... I see this bit in /etc/exim.conf:

local_delivery:
  driver = appendfile
  group = mail
  mode = 0660
  mode_fail_narrower = false
  file = /var/spool/mail/${local_part}

I hope changing it to:

file = ~/Mail/mbox

will work... not sure... I'll give it a try... NO!  it didn't work:

1999-05-08 16:36:39 Exim configuration error for local_delivery
transport:
  the file option must specify an absolute path
  Error al mandar mensaje, 1 ().
  Presione una tecla para continuar...
(Error to send message, 1 ()
Press a key to continue...)

Let's see with the full /home/horacio/Mail/mbox path

Thanks

Horacio


Re: 8 Newbie Questions

1999-05-08 Thread André Bell
Peter Makholm wrote:
There is no such thing as drive letters.

Partitions are mounted around in the directory structure and you move
around just like on any other directory.

Either you mount it (on /floppy) or uses mcopy from the mtools
package.

Read some book about unix. I'm very sorry but you seem rather clueless
on some fundemental stuff and then its hard to help.

Yes, I'm clueless about linux basics.  I'm three days into my installation
of linux and have never seen it nor any unix operating system before now.
I've been using pc's since they came out (70's onward). The funny thing is,
I'm a pc tech support person working for a multi-billion fortune 200
company and I assumed that linux would work as many other computer systems
work, i.e. with drive assignments. (Cocky Translation: 'If it's on a pc I
can figure it out'. I've been humbled...)

I know dos and windows and thousands of applications extremely well. I
don't know linux other than what shows up when I type 'help' and what i've
gleaned by perusing the linux newsgroups and linux web pages. Lots of stuff
there that doesn't apply to navigating or altering kernels.

Since I just installed linux a few days ago from my debian 2.1 cd there
will be a slight learning curve during this week.  One way or another I'll
know linux well enough in less than a week that I can teach others how to
install, navigate, and change the setup of their linux... I know computers
I just don't know linux's command structure and syntax, yet.  Once i start
navigating I'm gonna take my linux apart kernel by kernel and see what
makes it tick.  Then I'll no longer be clueless.

For now I can only associate what I know of other operating systems with
linux. I've read a ton of sites, and none that I've come across so far are
written well enough to go from install to expert.  They waste a lot of
words and tell very little about navigating about linux and very little
about controlling linux kernels. They all assume that since I already
installed linux I must know how to use linux. I think I just got lucky
installing debian -- others say it's a challenging installation and it's
running on my pc... sort of  :) 

Like most pc instructions, the sites I've come across so far seem written
for those who already know what to do with the information.  One of my
'favorite' sites explained how to copy from a floppy.  It 'said' copy some
files from a floppy but didn't tell 'how'.  They also said to copy mtools
to your partitioned drive and then run mtools commands from there using
drive assignments like a:, c:, etc.  The assumption was that I already knew
how to copy the files to the drive using Linux.  Now if I knew that I
wouldn't have searched for [+linux +how to copy files from a floppy]   :)

Anyhow, that's why I asked for help here (btw thanks for your detailed
help. I figured I'd be lucky to get a reply to just one of my questions,
you gave an answer to looks like each question I asked). Now I'm going to
try to play with linux and see if I can get it to recognize my floppy and
allow me to copy files to the system so I can run lots more stuff...

Edit you /etc/fstab and put auto as an option in the line mentioning
/dev/fd0.

Please read man fstab first.

I must have installed something incorrectly because  'man fstab' says:
 can't open the manpath configuration file /etc/manpath.config

When I cd /etc and then type ls manpath.*, it shows manpath.config.dpkg-new
I'm guessing this means the installation was interrupted or is this the
same as  manpath.config just with extra extensions?

Thanks very much for your help!!!

Andre'
... headed back to http://www.debian.org

Read a book? Is that a text file or pdf? 


Glibc 2.1 - more info/workarounds?

1999-05-08 Thread Phillip Deackes
I am thinking about upgrading my Slink system to glibc 2.1. In fact I
did it when I upgraded an app using apt-get and glibc was also updated -
but I found I couldn't run Applix (I have since found a workaround) and
my JAVA apps.

It now appears that all the new unstable packages are being compiled
with glibc 2.1 so since I often make use of unstable pacakges it seems
this is the way I'll have to go.

Is there a FAQ, or other Debian document, or web page or whatever which
would be useful to me? I am particularly concerned that JAVA app won't
run. Is there a workaround for these?

Many thanks.


--
Phillip Deackes
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Debian Linux v.2.1 


NEW Samba + Printer woes

1999-05-08 Thread Jose L Gomez Dans
Hi!
I've finally installed samba + lprng on an ageing i386. I have two
parallel ports, and a printer attached to each. I'm using debian hamm.
This is /etc/printcap:
#
# Copyright (c) 1983 Regents of the University of California.
# All rights reserved.
#
# Redistribution and use in source and binary forms are permitted
# provided that this notice is preserved and that due credit is given
# to the University of California at Berkeley. The name of the University
# may not be used to endorse or promote products derived from this
# software without specific prior written permission. This software
# is provided ``as is'' without express or implied warranty.
#
#   @(#)etc.printcap5.2 (Berkeley) 5/5/88
#
# This file was generated by /usr/sbin/magicfilterconfig.
#
lp|hplj4l|HP Laserjet 4L:\
:sd=/var/spool/lpd/lj4:\
:rm=143.167.116.166:\
:rp=raw:\
:lp=/dev/null:\
:sh:
:sh:pw#80:pl#72:px#1440:mx#0:\
:if=/etc/magicfilter/ljet4l-filter:\
:af=/var/log/lp-acct:lf=/var/log/lp-errs:

Then, samba is set up so that anyone in our domain may print to this
server, without needing passwords or stuff like that. /etc/smb.conf looks
like this:

[global]
workgroup=radarcommunications
server string=Radar  Communications Printer Server
hosts allow=143.167. 127.
load printers=yes
printcap name=/etc/printcap
printing=bsd
log file = /var/log/samba/log/%m
max log size = 20
security=share
socket options=TCP_NODELAY
guest account=pcguest
dns proxy=no
[printers]
comment=Printers at skint
path=/var/spool/lpd/lp
browseable=no
guest ok = yes
writable=no
printable=yes
[ljet]
printer=ljet
public=yes
writable=no
printable=yes
path=/var/spool/lpd/ljet


The other printer is not set up, as lprng does not want to print to
it at all. cat filename  /dev/lp2 works fine, though.

I've checked the spool directories, and all have the right
permissions. Curiously enough, if I use smbclient from another linux box, I
can print without problems. However, things coming from Win95/WfWg boxes are
sent to /var/spool/lpd/ljet, and stored there. It seems that lpd doesn't
want to print them. A couple of days ago, with only one parallel port,
everything worked fine. lptune says that both lp1 and lp2 use polling. I
don't know what else to do.

Any words of wisdom on that one?

Cheers,
Jose
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Jose L Gomez Dans   PhD student
Radar  Communications Group
Department of Electronic Engineering
University of Sheffield UK


Re: debmake help

1999-05-08 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry

On 08-May-99 David Z. Maze wrote:
 roddie  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 roddie I'm experimenting with making my first .deb.
 roddie 
 roddie The howto's tell me to run build. I can find build anywhere. I
 roddie have all the packages. debmake, dpk-dev, dh-make, debhelp but
 roddie I can't find it.
 
 'build' changed its name in version 2.0.0 of the devscripts package to 
 'debuild'.  Try installing the devscripts package, if you haven't
 already, and reading its README file.


In potato there is a package called packaging-manual.  More up to date in
many ways.  dh-* scripts are in favor now, the debmake/debstd is fading away. 


[ERROR!] NEW Samba + Printer woes

1999-05-08 Thread Jose L Gomez Dans
In my previous message, I actually sent the wrong printcap. Sorry for the
large overhead :-///
The printcap I am using is:
#
# Copyright (c) 1983 Regents of the University of California.
# All rights reserved.
#
# Redistribution and use in source and binary forms are permitted
# provided that this notice is preserved and that due credit is given
# to the University of California at Berkeley. The name of the University
# may not be used to endorse or promote products derived from this
# software without specific prior written permission. This software
# is provided ``as is'' without express or implied warranty.
#
#   @(#)etc.printcap5.2 (Berkeley) 5/5/88
#
#  This file was generated by /usr/sbin/magicfilterconfig. 
#
lp|ljet|ljet|HP Laserjet 4L:\
:lp=/dev/lp1:sd=/var/spool/lpd/ljet:\
:sh:pw#80:pl#72:px#1440:mx#0:\
:if=/etc/magicfilter/laserjet-filter:\
:af=/var/log/lp-acct:lf=/var/log/lp-errs:
djet|djet|HP Deskjet 890C:\
:lp=/dev/lp2:sd=/var/spool/lpd/djet:\
:sh:pw#80:pl#72:px#1440:mx#0:\
:if=/etc/magicfilter/dj550c-filter:\
:af=/var/log/lp-acct:lf=/var/log/lp-errs:

Again, sorry for the annoyance!
Jose
-- 
Jose L Gomez Dans   PhD student
Radar  Communications Group
Department of Electronic Engineering
University of Sheffield UK


Re: Exim + Procmail + Mutt

1999-05-08 Thread Wayne Topa

Subject: Re: Exim + Procmail + Mutt
Date: Sat, May 08, 1999 at 04:41:24PM +0200

In reply to:J Horacio M G

Quoting J Horacio M G([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
 ~ Exim is kind of like a MTA+MDA in one; to a degree, it does what
 ~ smail+procmail does.
 
 I fear that the to a degree bit will be meaningful here.
 
 ~ That in mind, you can uninstall procmail, and have exim do all of your
 ~ mail sorting.  (You'll need take your procmail recipies, convert them
 ~ to exim's language, and stick them in your ~/.forward.)
 
 Just a bit lost here... all I have to do is create an empty ~/.forward
 file, and rewrite my procmail recipes into it?  is that all, or do I
 have to tell exim to look for (and where is) .forward?

Not quite.  The syntax for the .forward file in exim is not the same
as the filters in procmail.  Some think they are easier/better.
Anyway, I would suggest you look into /usr/doc/exim/.  There are doc
files there that will assist you in setting up the forward file and
exim.conf.   We could tell you what/how to do it to make it work but
you will learn a lot more by doing it yourself.

I'm sure you would prefer that, wouldn't you?

You will find that you don't 'have' to use exim as the MDA, you could
make a .forward file that directs all the mail to your current
.procmailrc.  See what you can learn by looking at the docs!

 
 ~ For example, here is what I have in my ~/.forward to filter this
 ~ mailing lists' posts:
 
 ~ # Exim filter
 ~ #  take care of mailing list debian-user
 ~ if
 ~$header_X-Mailing-List: contains debian-user@lists.debian.org
 ~ then
 ~save my_mail_directory/debian-user
 ~ finish
 ~ endif
 ~ # enf of debian-user filter
 
 ~ This works, although I think I liked smail+procmail better,
 ~ personally.  shrug
 
 Agreed... well, sort of;  may be exim works better than smail, and I'll
 probably be glad I changed the MTA, but somehow I feel uncomfortable
 with droping procmail as my MDA.  Ummh, I think I'll try to get by with
 Exim for a while until I learn how to install and configure Qmail, which
 I think it interacts well with Procmail.
 
 Meanwhile, I used to have this in my ~/.procmailrc:
 
 PATH=$HOME/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/bin:.
 MAILDIR=~/Mail
 LOGDIR=/var/log
 DEFAULT=$MAILDIR/mbox
 LOGFILE=$LOGDIR/procmail.log
 LOCKFILE=$HOME/.lockmail
 
 which would make mail go to ~/Mail/ instead of /var/spool/mail/user, and
 then the tipical procmail recipes to process mail to the different
 mailboxes within ~/Mail/;  and ~/Mail/mbox as the default mailbox where
 non rule processed mail would go to... I see this bit in /etc/exim.conf:
 
 local_delivery:
   driver = appendfile
   group = mail
   mode = 0660
   mode_fail_narrower = false
   file = /var/spool/mail/${local_part}
 
 I hope changing it to:
 
 file = ~/Mail/mbox
 
 will work... not sure... I'll give it a try... NO!  it didn't work:
 
 1999-05-08 16:36:39 Exim configuration error for local_delivery
 transport:
   the file option must specify an absolute path
   Error al mandar mensaje, 1 ().
   Presione una tecla para continuar...
 (Error to send message, 1 ()
 Press a key to continue...)
 
 Let's see with the full /home/horacio/Mail/mbox path
 
 Thanks
 
 Horacio
 
 
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 Unsubscribe?  mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED]  /dev/null
 

-- 
If you put garbage in a computer nothing comes out but garbage.  But
this garbage, having passed through a very expensive machine, is
somehow enobled and none dare criticize it.
___
Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: 8 Newbie Questions

1999-05-08 Thread Oliver Elphick
=?iso-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9?= Bell wrote:
  I just installed debian about three days ago and have several questions
  about navigating within debian and about accessing devices. If you can help
  me with one or more of these questions it would be greatly appreciated as I
  am growing a bit frustrated with not knowing what I am doing :)
  
Some documentation you will probably find very helpful is the Debian Tutorial
at http://www.debian.org/~hp/debian-tutorial.html.

You should also install one of the doc-linux packages and read the HOWTOs.

  1) How do I move from one partitioned drive to another? How do I know the
  drive letters to use too?
  
The first (boot) device is /.  Any other devices are mounted on directories
under /, so that they all make a seamless whole.

For example:

/mnt is normally an empty directory.  When you mount another device on it,
it suddenly contains all the tree in the filesystem of that device.  As a
user, you don't need to know that it is on a different device.

  2) How do I copy files from my floppy drive to my partitioned debian drive?
  
That very much depends on how the floppy is formatted.  I would guess that
you have a W95 formatted floppy, so:

# mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /floppy

Now the directory tree on the floppy is under /floppy.

If the mtools package is installed, you can instead say:

# mdir a:
# mcopy a:* ...
and so on.

  3) Why does debian say 'only the root can do that' when I type the line belo
  w:
$ mount /dev/fd0 (or any other floppy drive)
  
Remember that Linux is a multi-user system.  Therefore disk-mounting is
one of the operations reserved to the administrator, so that other users
don't get the rug pulled out from under them without notice.

   I can't cd /dev/fd0 nor can I figure out how to access it.

/dev/fd0 is a device node, not a directory -
$ ls -l /dev/fd0
brw-rw   1 root floppy 2,   0 Oct 22  1998 /dev/fd0

b or c as the first letter says the entry is a device; directories have
d there and ordinary files have -.  You can treat a device as a file, but you 
had better not try to write to it! (you would destroy any data on the device)

  4) How can i get a network connection or simulated network connection
  between my win95 pc  debin pc via serial or via their modems? Windows
  allows direct connect with other windows pc, what can I use with debian?
  
Look at the Serial HOWTO; you can probably connect the serial ports and
start a telnet session from W95.  You would have to have a getty running
on your serial port (getty is a program that waits for someone to try
to connect and sets up the session).

  5) How determine hardware which is functioning properly and how determine
  which kernels need to be removed or changed? I know with windows I had
  device manager and msd.exe.  What do I have with debian?
  
/proc is a pseudo-filesystem that contains information about the running
kernel.  /proc/interrupts, /proc/ioports, /proc/pci and /proc/scsi are
`files' that may prove useful.

If your hardware is working, leave your kernel alone until you have learnt
a bit more.

  6) How change kernels once I know the above? I'd like to remove the devices
  that I installed to the kernels during inital installation of debian but
  don't actually have in my system yet. I also want to add a new serial card
  since I never set one up when I installed debian. The new serial card is
  now in the pc. I don't know how to do this after the fact.  I type
  'setserial' and a bunch of stuff scrolls by that doesn't make sense to me ye
  t.
  
To understand what you are seeing, start with `man setserial', which should
print an explanation of that command.

  7) Why can't I access my floppy after booting from it?  I have /floppy on
  my system. I can see it by cd / and then typing ls. When I cd to /floppy
  and then try to write to it I get 'permission denied'. I read from it
  without error messages, it appears to be an empty directory.  I can't
  access either of my physical floppy drives attached to my system when I
  read from it with ls commands and /dev/fd(x).
  
By default, you have read access only (except when you are logged in as root).
To change that, you need to add your own user name to the floppy group by
editing /etc/group (you must do that as root).  In /etc/group you will see
a line that says

floppy:*:25:

Add your username immediately after the last colon (no spaces):

floppy:*:25:olly,dan

extra usernames are separated by commas, as you can see.

Log off and log in again; you should now have write access to the floppy drive.
(But DON'T write directly to /dev/fd0!)

  8) Do I have to regularly compile my own linux software?  Aren't binaries
  available like with dos and windows? So much linux software on 
  the net that I've seen isn't in binary format, it's rpm or plain source 
  format.  Is this standard for linux software? Can I use these with debian 2.
  1?
  
.rpm files contain compiled code, for Red Hat Linux.  Debian 

Re: 8 Newbie Questions

1999-05-08 Thread William R Pentney
 Yes, I'm clueless about linux basics.  I'm three days into my installation
 of linux and have never seen it nor any unix operating system before now.
 I've been using pc's since they came out (70's onward). The funny thing is,
 I'm a pc tech support person working for a multi-billion fortune 200
 company and I assumed that linux would work as many other computer systems
 work, i.e. with drive assignments. (Cocky Translation: 'If it's on a pc I
 can figure it out'. I've been humbled...)

Don't freak out or give up. It's not so bad once you get used to it. I
recommend picking up a guide to UNIX for DOS users (there are many of them
out there; UNIX in Plain English is an example of one book which helps
the DOS-to-UNIX transition.) Check out www.linux-howto.com as well. And
buy O'Reilly's Linux in a Nutshell; you will find it to be very useful
in time. (There's nothing in it that isn't in the manpages, but it's nice
to have paper docs sometimes.)

 I know dos and windows and thousands of applications extremely well. I
 don't know linux other than what shows up when I type 'help' and what i've
 gleaned by perusing the linux newsgroups and linux web pages. Lots of stuff
 there that doesn't apply to navigating or altering kernels.

You're familiar with the man command, I hope. If not, type man man in
Linux. You will find man to be your best friend when you start out. And
man -k keyword can be used to search the online manual for any keywords.

 For now I can only associate what I know of other operating systems with
 linux. I've read a ton of sites, and none that I've come across so far are
 written well enough to go from install to expert.  They waste a lot of
 words and tell very little about navigating about linux and very little
 about controlling linux kernels. They all assume that since I already
 installed linux I must know how to use linux. I think I just got lucky
 installing debian -- others say it's a challenging installation and it's
 running on my pc... sort of  :) 

Yes, Linux needs better documentation, and Debian is tougher to install
than Red Hat or the other common distros. Pick up a good UNIX-to-DOS book,
as mentioned, and it should get you started.

- Bill


Re: Kernel 2.2.5 and make-kpkg

1999-05-08 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Sat, May 08, 1999 at 12:31:48AM -0400, Jayson Baird wrote:
 After running make menuconfig, make dep, and make-kpkg clean , and then
 finally to build the kernel package: make-kpkg --rev test1 kernel_image

You really meant to say make-kpkg --revision=test1 kernel_image ?
   
 
 Okay, I know I'll probably give a few people some laughs here..but my .deb
 package is no where to be found..I had about a 7 minute wait while the
 kernel compiled and poof, no .deb with the Kernel..any ideas?

It should be in the directory above the one you compiled from (if
/usr/src/linux, then look for the .deb in /usr/src).

Bob

-- 
Bob Nielsen Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tucson, AZ  AMPRnet:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
DM42nh  http://www.primenet.com/~nielsen


Newer version of GNOME on slink?

1999-05-08 Thread William R Pentney

Is there any way I can get a newer version of GNOME than the 1.0.3 in the
slink staging area without upgrading to potato? Do the newer GNOME
packages really use glibc2.1?

And if so, is there any chance that it will ever be in a deb?

Also, is there any way I can reduce the amount of memory used by GNOME?
 
- thanks, Bill


Changing ownership for mounted fat partitions

1999-05-08 Thread Arcady Genkin
Hi all:

I would like to change ownership of all partitions, mounted under /mnt 
to group local. I am as a user member of local. For instance, I have 
a fat32 partition mounted under /mnt/fat32.

# chown root.local /mnt
OK
# chown root.local /mnt/fat32
chown: /mnt/fat32: Operation not permitted

If I unmount the partition, then I can change ownership for
/mnt/fat32, but when I mount the partition again, ownership changes to 
root.root again. :(

The main problem for me is that I haven't got a write permission in my 
fatXX partitions as a regular user.

Any input highly appreciated!!!
-- 
Arcady Genkin


Re: xwindows wanted

1999-05-08 Thread André Bell
It probally is. (I don't remember what a standard installation looks
like.)

Try looking at /usr/X11R6/

Before using Xwindow you need to configure it. You could do this with
/usr/X11R6/XF86Setup or /usr/X11R6/bin/xf86configure.

Thanks again Peter.
Yes, I have /usr/X11R6 but the only subdirectores inside of it are
   bin include lib man

None of them have a setup or xf86configure executable file :(
There is a setup.tcl buried deep into /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/dotfile/Generator
but that is it as far as setup files go.

Andre'


Re: 8 Newbie Questions

1999-05-08 Thread André Bell
 If you really really really need something that aint packaged for
 debian please say so. Probally others needs it as well.

U ... not true. I've come across a lot of software I'd like that isn't
in .deb packages anywhere - or the packages are poorly maintained, like
the KDE ones. Am I just not looking hard enough?


Thanks Bill for the perspective. Since I don't know much about RPM's and
the like that after the last comment I thought maybe I'm gonna be stuck
with the ability only to use apps found at www.debian.org  I'm glad that's
not the case because that would defeat the purpose of opensource software.

Maybe he meant that the files found to be most reliable and require least
compiling with debian are found at debian.org

Thanks again.

Andre'



Re: xwindows wanted

1999-05-08 Thread André Bell
login to your system and type XF86Setup, this will take you through the
graphical X setup. After your done you can just type startx to run X.

I type XF86Setup and it says
bash: XF86Setup: command not found :(

Maybe I need to reinstall debian ???

I'm getting a lot of 'bash: command: command not found' messages even for
stuff that IS in the subdirectories.  Maybe they need to be in /usr to be
found???

Andre


Re: bash functions

1999-05-08 Thread André Bell
William R Pentney wrote:
However, the less command is more powerful - it lets you move back and
forth through the file, search it, etc:

Type man less for more info.

I must have installed something incorrectly because 'man less' says:
 can't open the manpath configuration file /etc/manpath.config

When I 'cd /etc' and then type ls manpath.*, it shows manpath.config.dpkg-new
I'm guessing this means the installation was interrupted or is this the
same as  manpath.config just with extra extensions but am not sure(?).

Also, less isn't in my system. I type less and get: 
 bash: less: command not found

Andre'



Re: Changing ownership for mounted fat partitions

1999-05-08 Thread Alec Smith
Take a look at the uid= and gid= options of mount. You can use them in
/etc/fstab as part of your options for these mounts. For example, if group
local's gid is 105, you could have a line something like

/dev/hdc1  /mnt/fat32  vfat  uid=0,gid=105,umask=0770   0  0

This would set user to root, group to local and permissions to rwxrwx for
user and group (if I recall umask correctly).




On 8 May 1999, Arcady Genkin wrote:

 Hi all:
 
 I would like to change ownership of all partitions, mounted under /mnt 
 to group local. I am as a user member of local. For instance, I have 
 a fat32 partition mounted under /mnt/fat32.
 
 # chown root.local /mnt
 OK
 # chown root.local /mnt/fat32
 chown: /mnt/fat32: Operation not permitted
 
 If I unmount the partition, then I can change ownership for
 /mnt/fat32, but when I mount the partition again, ownership changes to 
 root.root again. :(
 
 The main problem for me is that I haven't got a write permission in my 
 fatXX partitions as a regular user.
 
 Any input highly appreciated!!!
 -- 
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Re: 8 Newbie Questions

1999-05-08 Thread Andrei Ivanov
 
 Yes, I'm clueless about linux basics.  I'm three days into my installation
 of linux and have never seen it nor any unix operating system before now.
 I've been using pc's since they came out (70's onward). The funny thing is,
 I'm a pc tech support person working for a multi-billion fortune 200
 company and I assumed that linux would work as many other computer systems
 work, i.e. with drive assignments. (Cocky Translation: 'If it's on a pc I
 can figure it out'. I've been humbled...)

You gotta start somewhere, I suppose.

 I know dos and windows and thousands of applications extremely well. I
 don't know linux other than what shows up when I type 'help' and what i've
 gleaned by perusing the linux newsgroups and linux web pages. Lots of stuff
 there that doesn't apply to navigating or altering kernels.

Ok. If you really want to take a try at compiling your kernel, now that
you are only 3 days into installsure. Here is how you do it:
Note that you have to be root for everything down here:
1. Install kernel-source package (you might need to install as86 package).
2. It is usually put in directory like /usr/src/kernel-? (Not sure hwo
it is in slink, but it's that way in hamm).
3. Go into the directory and type: 'make menuconfig' for shell config
menu, or 'make xconfig' for GUI config tool.
4. I prefer GUI one, just because it's easier to use it. So then you see
what your kernel currently has. But I think you havent installed X yet.
Correction: you talk about kernels, as in plural..there is only one kernel
working at any time.
5. Once you have configured it, you can start compilation by doing these:
make dep
make clean (you can omit this)
make zImage or make bzImage. The first one is uncompressed kernel. Reason
why you want a compressed kernel, is because programs like LILO (LInux
LOader) have limit on kernel size. I think it's around 750K. So if you use
a lot of options, use bzImage.
6. Once it compiled, mv to dir /arch/i386 and get the kernel from there.
Put it into boot, fix the symlink if necesary, and reboot.
If you are running LILO, you need to rerun it before rebooting.

Btw.doesnt your computer have a modem?

 
 Since I just installed linux a few days ago from my debian 2.1 cd there
 will be a slight learning curve during this week.  One way or another I'll
 know linux well enough in less than a week that I can teach others how to
 install, navigate, and change the setup of their linux... I know computers
 I just don't know linux's command structure and syntax, yet.  Once i start
 navigating I'm gonna take my linux apart kernel by kernel and see what
 makes it tick.  Then I'll no longer be clueless.

One week, uh? Good luck.
ANyway.get a book on Unix/Linux and read it through.
Before you get really good with Linux, I suspect you might need to learn
some bash scripting, or whatever shell you useit just makes your life
easier.
Andrew



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Re: xwindows wanted

1999-05-08 Thread Andrei Ivanov
 
 login to your system and type XF86Setup, this will take you through the
 graphical X setup. After your done you can just type startx to run X.
 
 I type XF86Setup and it says
 bash: XF86Setup: command not found :(
 
 Maybe I need to reinstall debian ???

Errr, WinNT approach doesnt work here. 
Try xf86config command.

 
 I'm getting a lot of 'bash: command: command not found' messages even for
 stuff that IS in the subdirectories.  Maybe they need to be in /usr to be
 found???

Ok, what commands are you trying to execute? 
Andrew



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Re: xwindows wanted

1999-05-08 Thread Ben Collins
On Sat, May 08, 1999 at 12:36:08PM -0500, Andrei Ivanov wrote:
 
  login to your system and type XF86Setup, this will take you through the
  graphical X setup. After your done you can just type startx to run X.
 
  I type XF86Setup and it says
  bash: XF86Setup: command not found :(
 
  Maybe I need to reinstall debian ???

 Errr, WinNT approach doesnt work here.
 Try xf86config command.

xf86setup package contains the XF86Setup program...or you can use the
xf86config text based setup program.

 
  I'm getting a lot of 'bash: command: command not found' messages even for
  stuff that IS in the subdirectories.  Maybe they need to be in /usr to be
  found???

 Ok, what commands are you trying to execute?

If you are in the /usr/X11R6/bin directory proceed the commands with ./
(like ./XF86Setup )
Otherwise you need to add /usr/X11R6/bin to your path with:

PATH=${PATH}:/usr/X11R6/bin
export PATH

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update-menus, does it work?

1999-05-08 Thread Wayne Topa
  I am having a few problems with the update-menus program.  I wonder
if anyone else is also.

1.  I removed 2 applications, xfreecd and wmcdplay, using apt-get
remove and then installed tcd and xcdplay.  Altho apt-get ran update-menus 
the two removed programs are still in the 'USERS' menu's.  They have
been removed from the roots menu's tho.(?)  Re-runninf update-menus
has not helped the problem.

2.  I guess the maintainer of tcd didn't put the required menus for
the X version of tcd, gtcd, in his package so I am trying to add it.
I have read the /usr/doc/menu/html/index.html, and the README's in
/etc/menu, /etc/menu-methods, and /usr/lib/menu, but still can't get
it working. I have added the following to ~/.menu and /etc/menu

?package(gtcd):needs=x11 icon=none section=Apps/Sound \
title=Gtcd command=/usr/X11R6/bin/gtcd

but it still doesn't show up in the menu of any user after I run update-menus.
Yet 2 removed apps are still showing up in the Users menu.

The /usr/lib/menu/default/README says to put new entries into
/etc/menu but the /etc/menu/README says that entries in this dir 
override the menu files provided by Debian in /usr/lib/menu and
/usr/lib/menu/default. New entries are not the same as overriding
current entries, or are they?  The html doc says to add user menus in
~/.menu.

The html doc suggests doing echo -n  ~/.menu/Xfreecd to remove the
menu entry from the system menu in /etc/menu.  Funny, I thought the
system menu was /usr/lib/menu?  I'm really confused now.  Well anyway
that doesn't work either, maybe because xfreecd and wmcdplay are not
in ANY menu file at all!

I hope that I'm the only one having a problem with this.  Maybe it's
because I'm not running KDE.  They seem to like this!  I long for the
old way of changing .fvwmrc to whatever I want it to be.  It made a
lot more sense to me then this does.

Oh, I have tried closing X down and also restarted the WM.  That
didn't help.  As I am running Linux I will not reboot to try the
Microsloth method.

Comments, flames, tips and/or pointers appreciated.

TIA

Wayne

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filters package

1999-05-08 Thread Fabio Olive leite
Hi there,

I'd like to know what happened to the filters package that was in hamm
but is not in slink. It contains some funny text filters like jive. Please
Cc: me as I'm not on the list.

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Re: Changing ownership for mounted fat partitions

1999-05-08 Thread Brian Servis
*- On  8 May, Alec Smith wrote about Re: Changing ownership for mounted fat 
partitions
 Take a look at the uid= and gid= options of mount. You can use them in
 /etc/fstab as part of your options for these mounts. For example, if group
 local's gid is 105, you could have a line something like
 
 /dev/hdc1  /mnt/fat32  vfat  uid=0,gid=105,umask=0770   0  0
 
 This would set user to root, group to local and permissions to rwxrwx for
 user and group (if I recall umask correctly).
 

I would also had the quiet option to the above.  Fat* partitions do not
really allow ownership flags on the files. If a regular user of group
local modifies files it tries to change the ownership flags around and
you will get the 'Operation not permitted' errors.  Setting the quiet
flag will suppress these error messages.  Some programs may still bail
out though so you need be aware.

Brian

 
 
 
 On 8 May 1999, Arcady Genkin wrote:
 
 Hi all:
 
 I would like to change ownership of all partitions, mounted under /mnt 
 to group local. I am as a user member of local. For instance, I have 
 a fat32 partition mounted under /mnt/fat32.
 
 # chown root.local /mnt
 OK
 # chown root.local /mnt/fat32
 chown: /mnt/fat32: Operation not permitted
 
 If I unmount the partition, then I can change ownership for
 /mnt/fat32, but when I mount the partition again, ownership changes to 
 root.root again. :(
 
 The main problem for me is that I haven't got a write permission in my 
 fatXX partitions as a regular user.
 
 Any input highly appreciated!!!
 -- 
 Arcady Genkin
 



wmmail

1999-05-08 Thread Miro


I always get the error message 'no mailbox specified' when i try to start wmmail
I checked the .wmmailrc but it isn't saying anything about mailbox ...

Can anyone help me?


Re: Kernel 2.2.5 and make-kpkg

1999-05-08 Thread Laurent PICOULEAU
On Sat, 08 May, 1999 à 12:31:48AM -0400, Jayson Baird wrote:
 After running make menuconfig, make dep, and make-kpkg clean , and then

make menuconfig ; make-kpkg --rev test1 kernel_image is enough, all the gory
details are handled by make-kpkg

 finally to build the kernel package: make-kpkg --rev test1 kernel_image
 
 Okay, I know I'll probably give a few people some laughs here..but my .deb

I promise you that I've not laughed, I've just smiled :-)

 package is no where to be found..I had about a 7 minute wait while the
 kernel compiled and poof, no .deb with the Kernel..any ideas?

Unless compilation gives errors, cd .. ; ls *.deb will show you the expected
package...

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Re: deb vs. rpm

1999-05-08 Thread Frankie
Thorsten Manegold wrote:
 
  It is done on a per package basis.
 So in that respect it's like rpm. No?
 
  'apt-get install exim' will install
  all libraries that it depends on and
 Doesn't rpm do that too?
 
  uninstall  all mta's that it conflicts
  with.
 With or without asking?
 
 
 
  The .deb format is not just a package format it is a database of
  information about packages, namely version, dependencies, conflicts and
 As far as I know that is the case with rpm too, isn't it?
 
  recommends.
 That is not a feature of rpm as far as I know.
 
 
  Thus when you upgrade your system, dpkg/apt downloads all software
  selected and dependencies, then sets them up, if there is a conflict it
  uninstalls what is conflicting, then after everthing is installed and
  configure correctly, it deletes the downloaded packages so that your
  system is not loaded down with .deb files.
 
  There is nothing like it in existence, it is the superior package format.
  Forget about popularity for a moment and think about raw technical
  superiority.  That is the debian format.  You will love it when you try
  it.
 I heard that it's supposed to be supperior. As a matter of fact that
 is the main reason for me to try Debian (I started out with SuSE and
 am still using it. However I don't like the way they package things
 as it's not compatible to rpm's that I find on the net since they

just to add my .02 euros :- debian has loads more packages in its
distribution that redhat do in theirs, so (hopefully) you shuldn't need
to mess about with (untrustworthy) .rpms from the 'net.

frankie

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Re: Linux hangs when net too used

1999-05-08 Thread Frankie
Conrado Badenas wrote:
 
 Hi all!
 
 I've been having problems with Linux the last months, but now I have
 isolated the problem: Linux hangs.
 
 1) I thought it was the kernel but it hangs with 2.0.34, 2.0.35 and
 2.2.1
 2) Then I thought it was the memory but memtest (package sysutils) says
 it is OK.
 3) Then I thought I was being attacked with a DNS, but I read about them
 and kernel 2.2.1 should stop teardrop, winnuke, etc.

2 points:   1) DNS = Domain Name Something-or-Other, DoS = Denial of
Service
2) There are loads of possible ways that your system could go 
down due
to a DoS attack - winnuke, teardrop et al. are just the very publicised
methods. Variations on these and new methods will be discovered/invented
on a regular basis. 

 4) Then somebody told me that maybe only X hanged and I could access my
 machine from outside: I checked that I couldn't telnet/ftp/http my
 machine from outside
 5) Now, one of my users connected from outside via ftp and began
 uploading a file of more than 3 Mb. He tried it three times, and my
 machine hanged three times (one hang, one boot, one hang, one boot, one
 hang, one boot, I denied access to this user, no hangs)
 
 WHAT IS HAPPENING? I love Linux but my friends laugh at me when I tell
 them that Linux hangs.
 

You do not say what hardware you are using:- this sounds to me like a
hardware problem.
2.0.36 is a widely used kernel. It has been around (or at least the
latter 2.0.x series has) for a long time ( 1 year), so it should be
pretty stable.
It is unlikely that you have discovered a new kernel bug that no other
linux users have noticed.
As it happens when your user was ftping, this could be when there was
extra network usage (although it could also be to do with memory, hard
disk, motherboard ... Do you use an ethernet card or a modem or
what? What manufacturer/model? You need to give some info. Are you
compiling your own kernel or using the stock debian one?




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compiling debian sources question?

1999-05-08 Thread Frankie
Hi,

I recently bought the cheapbytes debian 2.1 CD's. Almost everything is
OK. Unfortunately the computer I am using at the moment is a mingy P-60.

I decided to recompile my x-server and libraries (with the
'pentium-builder' package installed) in order to eek a bit more speed
out of X.

However, when I have unpacked the x source and diff (revision 11), and
do dbuild,
after many hours, dbuild quits with errors. (the whole error log
is something like 2.5 MB so I have extracted relevant bits :-) )

These are the errors:



$ grep -n ] Error *.messages 
19421:make[5]: *** [resource.o] Error 1
19754:make[5]: *** [xrdb.o] Error 1
19940:make[6]: *** [main.o] Error 1
19942:make[5]: *** [dix] Error 2
21692:make[4]: *** [resource.o] Error 1
22113:make[4]: *** [xrdb.o] Error 1
22205:make[5]: *** [main.o] Error 1
22207:make[4]: *** [dix] Error 2
25271:make: *** [binary-arch] Error 1
$

gcc -c -O2 -fno-strength-reduce -ansi -pedantic-I../..
-I../../exports/inclu
de  -Dlinux -D__i386__ -D_POSIX_C_SOURCE=199309L -D_POSIX_SOURCE
-D_XOPEN_SOURCE
=500L -D_BSD_SOURCE -D_SVID_SOURCE -D_REENTRANT   -DFUNCPROTO=15
-DNARROWPROTO  
-DBINDIR=\/usr/X11R6/bin\
-DXDMDIR=\/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm\ 
-DUSESHADOW -DUNIXCONN
-DTCPCONN
-DGREET_USER_STATIC -DFRAGILE_DEV_MEM  
-DOSMAJORVERSION=2  
-DOSMINORVERSION=2'-DDEF_SERVER_LINE=:0 local
/usr/X11R6/bin/X 
:0' 
'-DXRDB_PROGRAM=/usr/X11R6/bin/xrdb'  '-DDEF
_SESSION=/usr/X11R6/bin/xterm -ls' 
'-DDEF_USER_PATH=:/bin:/usr/b
in:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/ucb' 
'-DDEF_SYSTEM_PATH=/etc:/bin:/usr/bin
:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/ucb'   
'-DDEF_SYSTEM_SHELL=/bin/sh'
 
'-DDEF_FAILSAFE_CLIENT=/usr/X11R6/bin/xterm'  '-DDEF
_XDM_CONFIG=/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/xdm-config' 
'-DDEF_CHOOSER
=/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/chooser'   
'-DDEF_AUTH_DIR=/usr/X11R6/li
b/X11/xdm'  
'-DDEF_GREETER_LIB=/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/libXdmGreet
.so' resource.c
gcc.real: local: No such file or directory
gcc.real: :0: No such file or directory
resource.c:0: unterminated string or character constant
resource.c:0: possible real start of unterminated constant
resource.c:0: unterminated string or character constant
resource.c:0: possible real start of unterminated constant
make[5]: *** [resource.o] Error 1


gcc -O2 -fno-strength-reduce -ansi -pedantic-I../..
-I../../exports/include 
 -Dlinux -D__i386__ -D_POSIX_C_SOURCE=199309L -D_POSIX_SOURCE
-D_XOPEN_SOURCE=50
0L -D_BSD_SOURCE -D_SVID_SOURCE -D_REENTRANT   -DFUNCPROTO=15
-DNARROWPROTO  -DC
PP=\/lib/cpp -traditional -Dlinux -D__i386__ -D_POSIX_C_SOURCE=199309L
-D_POSI
X_SOURCE -D_XOPEN_SOURCE=500L -D_BSD_SOURCE -D_SVID_SOURCE -D_REENTRANT
\  -DH
AS_MKSTEMP   -c xrdb.c -o xrdb.o
gcc.real: : No such file or directory
xrdb.c:0: unterminated string or character constant
xrdb.c:0: possible real start of unterminated constant
In file included from ../../exports/include/X11/Xos.h:149,
 from xrdb.c:47:
/usr/include/unistd.h:208: macro or `#include' recursion too deep
/usr/include/unistd.h:209: macro or `#include' recursion too deep
/usr/include/unistd.h:212: macro or `#include' recursion too deep
/usr/include/unistd.h:213: macro or `#include' recursion too deep
In file included from ../../exports/include/X11/Xos.h:149,
 from xrdb.c:47:
/usr/include/unistd.h:860: macro or `#include' recursion too deep
xrdb.c:975: macro or `#include' recursion too deep
xrdb.c:975: macro or `#include' recursion too deep
xrdb.c:976: macro or `#include' recursion too deep
xrdb.c:1279: macro or `#include' recursion too deep
xrdb.c:1279: macro or `#include' recursion too deep
xrdb.c:1351: macro or `#include' recursion too deep
xrdb.c:1351: macro or `#include' recursion too deep
make[5]: *** [xrdb.o] Error 1


gcc -c -O2 -fno-strength-reduce -ansi -pedantic  -I../include
-I../../../exports
/include/X11 -I../../../include/fonts -I../../../include/extensions 
-I../../.. 
-I../../../exports/include  -Dlinux -D__i386__ -D_POSIX_C_SOURCE=199309L
-D_POSI
X_SOURCE -D_XOPEN_SOURCE=500L -D_BSD_SOURCE -D_SVID_SOURCE -D_REENTRANT
-DSHAPE 
-DXINPUT -DXKB -DLBX -DXAPPGROUP -DXCSECURITY  -DDPMSExtension
-DPIXPRIV  -DGCCU
SESGAS -DSTATIC_COLOR -DAVOID_GLYPHBLT -DPIXPRIV  -DXFreeXDGA -DNDEBUG  
-DFUNCP
ROTO=15 -DNARROWPROTO   -DVENDOR_STRING=\The XFree86 Project, Inc\
-DVENDOR_
RELEASE=3320 main.c
gcc.real: XFree86: No such file or directory
gcc.real: Project,: No such file or directory
gcc.real: Inc: No such file or directory
main.c:0: unterminated string or character constant
main.c:0: possible real start of unterminated constant
make[6]: *** [main.o] Error 1
make[6]: Leaving directory
`/mnt/x/TEMP/xfree86-3.3.2.3a/programs/Xserver/dix'
make[5]: *** [dix] Error 2


Then these errors are repeated again (with one lower make[x]), and then:


dpkg-deb: building package `twm' 

Re: NEW Samba + Printer woes

1999-05-08 Thread Wayne Topa

Subject: NEW Samba + Printer woes
Date: Sat, May 08, 1999 at 05:13:32PM +

In reply to:Jose L Gomez Dans

Quoting Jose L Gomez Dans([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
 Hi!
   I've finally installed samba + lprng on an ageing i386. I have two
 parallel ports, and a printer attached to each. I'm using debian hamm.
 This is /etc/printcap:
 #
 # Copyright (c) 1983 Regents of the University of California.
 # All rights reserved.
 #
 # Redistribution and use in source and binary forms are permitted
 # provided that this notice is preserved and that due credit is given
 # to the University of California at Berkeley. The name of the University
 # may not be used to endorse or promote products derived from this
 # software without specific prior written permission. This software
 # is provided ``as is'' without express or implied warranty.
 #
 # @(#)etc.printcap5.2 (Berkeley) 5/5/88
 #
 # This file was generated by /usr/sbin/magicfilterconfig.
 #
 lp|hplj4l|HP Laserjet 4L:\
   :sd=/var/spool/lpd/lj4:\
   :rm=143.167.116.166:\
   :rp=raw:\
   :lp=/dev/null:\  ??
   :sh:
   :sh:pw#80:pl#72:px#1440:mx#0:\
   :if=/etc/magicfilter/ljet4l-filter:\
   :af=/var/log/lp-acct:lf=/var/log/lp-errs:
 

Just a thought, there is no printer assigned in the above printcap,
you have lp=/dev/null??  And this works using smbclient?  Am I missing
something here??

lp|lj|lp|Brother HL-10V:\
:lp=/dev/lp0:sd=/var/spool/lpd/lp:\
:sh:pw#80:pl#60:px#1440:mx#0:\
:if=/etc/magicfilter/ljet2p-filter:\
:af=/var/log/lp-acct:lf=/var/log/lp-errs:

Note the :lp=/dev/lp0 if for 2.2.x kernels. If you are using 2.0.x it
would be :lp=/dev/lp1


HTH

   Then, samba is set up so that anyone in our domain may print to this
 server, without needing passwords or stuff like that. /etc/smb.conf looks
 like this:
 
 [global]
   workgroup=radarcommunications
   server string=Radar  Communications Printer Server
   hosts allow=143.167. 127.
   load printers=yes
   printcap name=/etc/printcap
   printing=bsd
   log file = /var/log/samba/log/%m
   max log size = 20
   security=share
   socket options=TCP_NODELAY
   guest account=pcguest
   dns proxy=no
 [printers]
   comment=Printers at skint
   path=/var/spool/lpd/lp
   browseable=no
   guest ok = yes
   writable=no
   printable=yes
 [ljet]
   printer=ljet
   public=yes
   writable=no
   printable=yes
   path=/var/spool/lpd/ljet
 
 
   The other printer is not set up, as lprng does not want to print to
 it at all. cat filename  /dev/lp2 works fine, though.
 
   I've checked the spool directories, and all have the right
 permissions. Curiously enough, if I use smbclient from another linux box, I
 can print without problems. However, things coming from Win95/WfWg boxes are
 sent to /var/spool/lpd/ljet, and stored there. It seems that lpd doesn't
 want to print them. A couple of days ago, with only one parallel port,
 everything worked fine. lptune says that both lp1 and lp2 use polling. I
 don't know what else to do.
 
   Any words of wisdom on that one?
   
   Cheers,
   Jose
 -- 
 Jose L Gomez Dans PhD student
   Radar  Communications Group
   Department of Electronic Engineering
   University of Sheffield UK
 
 
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Re: 8 Newbie Questions

1999-05-08 Thread Wayne Topa

Subject: Re: 8 Newbie Questions
Date: Sat, May 08, 1999 at 09:04:27AM -0500

In reply to:André Bell

Quoting André Bell([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
 Peter Makholm wrote:
 There is no such thing as drive letters.
 
 Partitions are mounted around in the directory structure and you move
 around just like on any other directory.
 
 Either you mount it (on /floppy) or uses mcopy from the mtools
 package.
 
 Read some book about unix. I'm very sorry but you seem rather clueless
 on some fundemental stuff and then its hard to help.
 
 Yes, I'm clueless about linux basics.  I'm three days into my installation
 of linux and have never seen it nor any unix operating system before now.
 I've been using pc's since they came out (70's onward). The funny thing is,

Ahh, so you might rember CP/M ?

 I'm a pc tech support person working for a multi-billion fortune 200
 company and I assumed that linux would work as many other computer systems
 work, i.e. with drive assignments. (Cocky Translation: 'If it's on a pc I
 can figure it out'. I've been humbled...)
 
[snip ]
 
 Edit you /etc/fstab and put auto as an option in the line mentioning
 /dev/fd0.
 
 Please read man fstab first.
 
 I must have installed something incorrectly because  'man fstab' says:
  can't open the manpath configuration file /etc/manpath.config
 
The basis install doesn't include some rather necessary packages.  Get
the man-db and manpages packages.  Those will take care of the basics.
If you are going into this deeper also load the manpages-dev package.

do 
ls  /usr/doc/HOWTO/*(thats like C:dir \windows\startup )

You will file a lot of files that that have a lot of what you are/will
be looking for.

 When I cd /etc and then type ls manpath.*, it shows manpath.config.dpkg-new
 I'm guessing this means the installation was interrupted or is this the
 same as  manpath.config just with extra extensions?
 
try less /etc/manpath.config( like more c:\windows\help )

 Thanks very much for your help!!!
 
 Andre'
 ... headed back to http://www.debian.org
 
 Read a book? Is that a text file or pdf? 
 
  uhh, yes  :-) 

HTH

-- 
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we can't control when the five year period will begin.
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rvplayer still does not work

1999-05-08 Thread Shao Zhang
Hi,
I just tried to use the rvplayer installer deb package to install 
rvplayer.
I thought it will fix the problem of rvplayer in 2.2.* kernel.

But it still does not work. It opened up alright, but does not play at 
all.
and the play button is somehow not displayed.

I am running 2.2.6.

Shao.
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