lost+found
Ola, fiz há pouco tempo a instalação da Slink 2.1 para testes, e ontem ocorreu um problema com o sistema de arquivos da partição principal: Certas vezes quando iniciava a Debian, aparecia uma mensagem que o sistema não conseguia rodar o INIT e era mostrado o aviso de login do root. Só que a senha não era reconhecida. Após pressionar CTRlALTDEL, o sistema entrava em modo de manutenção, e assim era me pedida a senha do root e assim conseguia entrar no sistema. Assim eu podia rodar o fsck.ext2 e verificar o sistema de arquivos. Só que reiniciando o computador, o Linux reconhecia normalmente todos os sistemas de arquivos. As vezes mostrava estes erros, as vezes não. Aconteceu que, da última vez utilizei o comando fsck.ext2 com a opção -f. Ele encontrou vários problemas com o sistema de arquivos e todos eles foram corrigidos para o diretório lost+found. Para minha surpresa, após reiniciar o sistema, havia perdido todos os sub-diretórios de /usr, /bin, /home e outros 2. Entrando em lost+found, verifiquei que lá existiam diversos sub diretórios no formato #100125 (que se não me engano são os inodos do disco), usando o ls nome do diretório, conseguia verificar outros diretórios dentro dele seguindo o mesmo formato #123456. Mas não conseguia utilizar o comando cd para entrar neste diretório e verificar seu conteúdo. Acho que o mesmo acontecia com o mv. Não se preocupem porque fiz esta instalação como teste e não perdi nenhum arquivo pessoal pois tinha cópias de segurança, a partição já foi até excluída, e estou fazendo a nova instalação do sistema. Mas nunca tinha visto uma destruição no sistema de arqivos como esta. Antes o sistema funcionava normalmente (mesmo tendo algum problema algumas vezes que inicializava) e após utilizar o fsck.ext2 perder diversos diretórios que estavam funcionando? Alguém da lista sabe como recuperar um sistema de arquivos intactos após um problema como este? Pode-se confiar no utilitário fsck.ext2 durante um problema com o sistema de arquivos? E como restaurar, e como adivinhar quais são os nomes dos diretórios dentro de lost+found (os diretórios principais como /usr, /home, /bin é simples, mas dentro de /usr/doc por exemplo, existem diversos documentos e arquivos que dificilmente podem ser lembrados). Sinceramente, nunca tive uma perda como esta sem explicação utilizando o DOS/NDD. Alguém tem uma sugestão para uma melhor correção deste problema, caso venha a acontecer futuramente ou com qualquer pessoa da lista? Espero sugestões Gleydson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
smtp para outras maquinas
Boas, Estou tentando configurar o smail do debian 2.0 para enviar mensagens entre duas maquinas debian, mas sem ligar ao nameserver uma vez que este nao existe! (so utilizando a informacao nos ficheiros hosts. Alguma dica? Joao Joao Pissarro Inet. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ampr: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AX25: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ZIP drive and kernel 2.2?
I'm using kernel 2.2.7 on slink. My Zip (parallel) drive works perfectly and so does the printer. I don't use modules at all. The 2.2.* kernel series allows you to have multiple parallel support. But how do you use it? When I try do mount /dev/sda4 I just get mount: the kernel does not recognize /dev/sda4 as a block device Stef
Re: processes spawned by usr 'nobody'?
From message [EMAIL PROTECTED] : I have noticed that every so often my HD would start to whine like it was being search. It made me curious and a ran a top and I found the a the find utility was started by user 'nobody'. Is this a normal thing to have processes spawned by the nobody user? Or is this a problem as I think it to be? This is no problem. Several programs that are run automatically from cron.daily or cron.weekly are run as user nobody. One example, which may be the one you noticed, is the updatedb script, which builds a database for locate(1) to search. If this ran as root, all files on your disk would be indexed. But since it runs as nobody, only files that are world-readable are indexed (ie your private files are not indexed). This is generally a good thing; sometimes people have files that they don't want other people to know they have. It would be a security risk for hidden files to be indexed, because some people (maybe mistakenly) depend on unknown filenames for security. Some daemons may also su to nobody before going to work. By running as nobody, they are unable to hurt your system if they are compromised by a remote cracker. On my system, ident, finger, and talk all run this way. Carl
Re: ZIP drive and kernel 2.2?
Did you compile support for the parallel port and for the correct type of Zip drive -- ppa or imm? On Sat, 8 May 1999, Debian Mail wrote: I'm using kernel 2.2.7 on slink. My Zip (parallel) drive works perfectly and so does the printer. I don't use modules at all. The 2.2.* kernel series allows you to have multiple parallel support. But how do you use it? When I try do mount /dev/sda4 I just get mount: the kernel does not recognize /dev/sda4 as a block device Stef -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: slink ifconfig broken
ifconfig -a will show aliased interfaces, though. - Original Message - From: George Bonser [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Friday, May 07, 1999 6:14 PM Subject: slink ifconfig broken Just a note that ifconfig on slink will not show aliased interfaces. The source for potato backage wouldnt build on slink out of the box, I had to comment out the ipv6 references in the net-tools/lib Makefile and I got the ifconfig binary to build but there were other problems.
Re: 3D Card
On Sat, May 08, 1999 at 12:25:35AM +0200, Khalid EZZARAOUI wrote: did someone know what kind of 3D card company, is really making the job to porting their hardware to Linux, especialy OpenGL ? There is a thread in slashdot about the subject, or closely related however. http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=99/05/07/134212mode=thread -- Aleksi
Exim + Procmail + Mutt
I just installed Debian 2.1, and swifted from Smail to Exim. I'm having some trouble with it, though: I lost some incoming mail as I tried to use Exim with the same .forward and .procmailrc scripts I had with Debian 2.0, it sent mails to /var/spool/exim/input/ and /var/spool/exim/msglog/. I believe Exim complained about |exec and IFS (I tried both with .forward). This is what I had in my ~/.forward: |exec /usr/bin/procmail ¿Any idea? Also, the problem with the From: header... my email address is [EMAIL PROTECTED], but smail used to write it as [EMAIL PROTECTED] (horacio being the user in the machine). I solved that by creating an user homega; now, I'm trying to work it right with Exim, so I created user horacio and in ~/.muttrc: unmy_hdr From: my_hdr From: J Horacio M G [EMAIL PROTECTED] my_hdr Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Horacio) but this is still not the way it should be done... or is it? how can I tell the MTA to show the full correct address? TIA Horacio
Re: ZIP drive and kernel 2.2?
I'm using kernel 2.2.7 on slink. My Zip (parallel) drive works perfectly and so does the printer. I don't use modules at all. The 2.2.* kernel series allows you to have multiple parallel support. But how do you use it? When I try do mount /dev/sda4 I just get mount: the kernel does not recognize /dev/sda4 as a block device I had that problem with one zip disk it turned out that it had been re-formated and was on sda1 not 4 (partition 1 not 4) Simo
Mutt and signature
Reply-To: What is the variable that will cause mutt to automatically ad a .signature file? It seems this is the only thing I am having a hard time with upon my transition to Mutt mutt-cybercreep-4586-7 Description: PGP Key 0xB51DC4DD.
Diagnostic message with Netscape 4.51 and Hamm
G'Day, I'm currently still running hamm, and I've installed Netscape 4.51 using the installer package (4.0-12). When I try to compose a new message in Messenger, I get a subprocess diagnostic dialog box pop up that says Warning: Type conversion failed and repeats it twice. Also, I can't use the backspace key on the To:/CC: line... I have to use ^H. Backspace is fine on the subject line and body. Could the two be related? Any pointers as to what to try would be appreciated. Cheers, -- Snoopy For Sale: Parachute. Only used once. Never opened. Small stain.
Re: Diagnostic message with Netscape 4.51 and Hamm
Todd 'Snoopy' Harper wrote: G'Day, I'm currently still running hamm, and I've installed Netscape 4.51 using the installer package (4.0-12). When I try to compose a new message in Messenger, I get a subprocess diagnostic dialog box Hi, I think it could come from 2 sources: 1- You told Netscape to always convert html to plain text, 2- You choose the MIME format (wich need a conversion any time) Try to de activate one by one. Bye -- Jean-Yves BARBIER [EMAIL PROTECTED] Les choses ne sont pas toujours ce que l'on voudrait qu'elles soient qu'elles fussent... P. DAC
Re: Exim + Procmail + Mutt
On Sat, May 08, 1999 at 02:11:49AM +0200, J Horacio M G wrote: I lost some incoming mail as I tried to use Exim with the same .forward and .procmailrc scripts I had with Debian 2.0, it sent mails to /var/spool/exim/input/ and /var/spool/exim/msglog/. I believe Exim complained about |exec and IFS (I tried both with .forward). This is what I had in my ~/.forward: |exec /usr/bin/procmail Exim is kind of like a MTA+MDA in one; to a degree, it does what smail+procmail does. That in mind, you can uninstall procmail, and have exim do all of your mail sorting. (You'll need take your procmail recipies, convert them to exim's language, and stick them in your ~/.forward.) For example, here is what I have in my ~/.forward to filter this mailing lists' posts: # Exim filter # take care of mailing list debian-user if $header_X-Mailing-List: contains debian-user@lists.debian.org then save my_mail_directory/debian-user finish endif # enf of debian-user filter This works, although I think I liked smail+procmail better, personally. shrug MG -- Matt Garman, [EMAIL PROTECTED] And though the window in the wall Come streaming in on sunlight wings A million bright ambassadors of morning. --Pink Floyd, Echoes
Re: Mutt and signature
On Fri, May 07, 1999 at 04:27:08PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Reply-To: What is the variable that will cause mutt to automatically ad a .signature file? It seems this is the only thing I am having a hard time with upon my transition to Mutt set signature= It seems to default to ~/.signature, since I've got that commented out, and it still reads my .signature -- Matt Folwell, Trinity College, Cambridge. CB2 1TQ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mutt and signature
On Fri, May 07, 1999 at 04:27:08PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Reply-To: What is the variable that will cause mutt to automatically ad a .signature file? It seems this is the only thing I am having a hard time with upon my transition to Mutt In my ~/.muttrc, I have the following line: set signature=~/.sig And that appends the spiffy file ~/.sig to the end of every message I send with mutt, as seen below :) MG -- Matt Garman, [EMAIL PROTECTED] And though the window in the wall Come streaming in on sunlight wings A million bright ambassadors of morning. --Pink Floyd, Echoes
Re: OPL3-SAx sound CLIPPING/SKIPPING under HDD+MOUSE activity
Okay, I've read through your whole message so here's a nice response for you :) You'll love it... On Fri, 7 May 1999, Rune Linding Raun wrote: Hi HELP! I got a laptop(K6-23D 333+64Mb RAM S3 virge mg/mx) with a OPL3-SAx(yamaha 719) sound chipset. It works perfectly under win98, but i dont use 98. The problem is that sound through dsp device is clipped/disturbed by HDD+MOUSE activity in X and X-free sessions! Iam using kernel 2.2.x and compiling with modular OPL3-SAx support and initializing the card with isapnp since its a PnP chipset. I havent been able to figure out the obvious I/O conflict but iam not a HEX master so I have pasted in some of my /proc/ files from a system where i can get sound(mp3 eg) but clipping and skipping of the output then i move the mouse or there is harddisk activity( it dosent seem to be a CPU dependent prob). Not exactly sure here, but it might be related to the stuff below ... please help I need sound on my mobile-LinuxBOX :)!!! /var/proc/ioports: -001f : dma1 .. Stuff cut out ... Okay here's where we get to the interesting bit... /var/proc/pci: PCI devices found: Bus 0, device 0, function 0: Host bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems 5597/5598 Host (rev 4). This is the same motherboard as mine apparantly, so I can give you almost detailed information on how to get it working... The actual sound board used, is the CMI8330 (commonly refered to as the soundpro). And yes, the OPL3-SAx driver does appear to work, however, there is a much better method of getting it to work. I have attached the two sound files that may interest you... And yes, I'm using the new kernel (2.2.4, I'm waiting to see how much gets modified with 2.2.5).. If the attached files don't help too much, then try checking your isapnp.conf file and making sure you have everything set the way you think it should be :) Hope this helps, Peter Ludwig How to enable CMI 8330 soundchip on Linux -- Stefan Laudat [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello folks, The CMI8330 soundchip is a very small chip found on many recent motherboards. In order to use it you just have to use a proper isapnp.conf and a little bit of patience. Of course you will have to compile kernel sound support as module, as shown below: CONFIG_SOUND=m CONFIG_SOUND_OSS=m CONFIG_SOUND_SB=m CONFIG_SOUND_ADLIB=m CONFIG_SOUND_MPU401=m # Just for fun :) CONFIG_SOUND_MSS=m The /etc/isapnp.conf file will be: snip below (READPORT 0x0203) (ISOLATE PRESERVE) (IDENTIFY *) (VERBOSITY 2) (CONFLICT (IO FATAL)(IRQ FATAL)(DMA FATAL)(MEM FATAL)) # or WARNING (VERIFYLD N) # WSS (CONFIGURE CMI0001/16777472 (LD 0 (IO 0 (SIZE 8) (BASE 0x0530)) (IO 1 (SIZE 8) (BASE 0x0388)) (INT 0 (IRQ 5 (MODE +E))) (DMA 0 (CHANNEL 0)) (NAME CMI0001/16777472[0]{CMI8330/C3D Audio Adapter}) (ACT Y) )) # Control device ? (CONFIGURE CMI0001/16777472 (LD 1 (IO 0 (SIZE 2) (BASE 0x0330)) (INT 0 (IRQ 11 (MODE +E))) (NAME CMI0001/16777472[1]{CMI8330/C3D Audio Adapter}) (ACT Y) )) # Joystick (CONFIGURE CMI0001/16777472 (LD 2 (IO 0 (SIZE 8) (BASE 0x0200)) (NAME CMI0001/16777472[2]{CMI8330/C3D Audio Adapter}) (ACT Y) )) # SB... (CONFIGURE CMI0001/16777472 (LD 3 (IO 0 (SIZE 16) (BASE 0x0220)) (INT 0 (IRQ 7 (MODE +E))) (DMA 0 (CHANNEL 1)) (DMA 1 (CHANNEL 5)) (NAME CMI0001/16777472[3]{CMI8330/C3D Audio Adapter}) (ACT Y) )) (WAITFORKEY) end of snip The module sequence is trivial: /sbin/modprobe sound # You need to load the ad1848 module first. That matters, otherwise the # chip falls into soundblaster compatibility and you won't get it back out /sbin/insmod ad1848 io=0x530 dma=0 irq=5 soundpro=1 /sbin/insmod uart401 /sbin/insmod sb io=0x220 irq=5 dma=1 dma16=-1 /sbin/insmod mpu401 io=0x330 /sbin/insmod opl3 io=0x388 The soundchip is now fully initialized. Enjoy it. To configure the Crystal CS423x sound chip and activate its DSP functions, modules may be loaded in this order: modprobe sound insmod ad1848 insmod uart401 insmod cs4232 io=* irq=* dma=* dma2=* This is the meaning of the parameters: io--I/O address of the Windows Sound System (normally 0x534) irq--IRQ of this device dma and dma2--DMA channels (DMA2 may be 0) On some cards, the board attempts to do non-PnP setup, and fails. If you have problems, use Linux' PnP facilities. To get MIDI facilities add insmod opl3 io=* where io is the I/O address of the OPL3 synthesizer. This will be shown in /proc/sys/pnp and is normally 0x388.
Strange IMPLICIT warning
I have been getting a strange warning from ISAPNP. I cannot seem to figure out what is up. I don't see anything on the Bug tracker, nor anything in the mailing list archives. So if someone could please help me, it would be much appreciated. I have attached the error readout with debug enabled, and my configuration file. Philip Thiem -- PENQUIN-LOVER-CODER ALERT: [EMAIL PROTECTED] All windows users evacuate the building!!! (So I can install a better OS on the comps) Pass on the GAS get NASM instead.Configuring Plug and Pray Periphials...Got DEBUG Got READPORT 0x020b Got ISOLATE PRESERVE Got IDENTIFY * Got VERBOSITY 2 Got CONFLICT Got IO FATAL Got IRQ FATAL Got DMA FATAL Got MEM FATAL Got CONFIGURE SUP1311/27611 Got LD 0 Got IO Got 0 Got SIZE 8 Got BASE 0x02f8 Got INT Got 0 Got IRQ 3 Got MODE +E Got NAME SUP1311/27611[0]{SupraExpress 336i PnP Modem} Got ACT Got Y Got CONFIGURE CTL009e/65515851 Got LD 0 Got INT Got 0 Got IRQ 5 Got MODE +E Got DMA Got 0 Got CHANNEL 1 Got DMA Got 1 Got CHANNEL 5 Got IO Got 0 Got SIZE 16 Got BASE 0x0220 Got IO Got 1 Got SIZE 2 Got BASE 0x0330 Got IO Got 2 Got SIZE 4 Got BASE 0x0388 Got NAME CTL009e/65515851[0]{Audio } Got ACT Got Y Got CONFIGURE CTL009e/65515851 Got LD 1 Got IO Got 0 Got SIZE 8 Got BASE 0x0200 Got NAME CTL009e/65515851[1]{Game} Got ACT Got Y Got CONFIGURE CTL009e/65515851 Got LD 2 Got IO Got 0 Got SIZE 4 Got BASE 0x0620 Got IO Got 1 Got SIZE 4 Got BASE 0x0A20 Got IO Got 2 Got SIZE 4 Got BASE 0x0E20 Got NAME CTL009e/65515851[2]{WaveTable } Got ACT Got Y Got WAITFORKEY Executing READPORT 0x020b Executing ISOLATE PRESERVE Board 1 has serial identifier ef 00 00 6b db 11 13 b0 4e (SUP1311/27611) Board 2 has serial identifier f5 03 e7 b1 4b 9e 00 8c 0e (CTL009e/65515851) Executing IDENTIFY * Board 1 has Identity ef 00 00 6b db 11 13 b0 4e: SUP1311 Serial No 27611 [checksum ef] Board 2 has Identity f5 03 e7 b1 4b 9e 00 8c 0e: CTL009e Serial No 65515851 [checksum f5] Executing VERBOSITY 2 Executing IO FATAL Executing IRQ FATAL Executing DMA FATAL Executing MEM FATAL Executing CONFIGURE SUP1311/27611 Found board SUP1311/27611 as Card Select Number 1 Executing LD 0 Executing IO 0 Executing SIZE 8 Executing IMPLICIT Executing BASE 0x02f8 Executing IMPLICIT done /etc/isapnp.conf:12 -- Fatal - resource conflict allocating 8 bytes of IO at 2F8 /etc/isapnp.conf:12 -- Fatal - Error occurred executing request 'IMPLICIT ' --- further action aborted (DEBUG) (READPORT 0x020b) (ISOLATE PRESERVE) (IDENTIFY *) (VERBOSITY 2) (CONFLICT (IO FATAL)(IRQ FATAL)(DMA FATAL)(MEM FATAL)) # or WARNING # Logical device id SUP1311 # Device support I/O range check register (CONFIGURE SUP1311/27611 (LD 0 (IO 0 (SIZE 8) (BASE 0x02f8)) (INT 0 (IRQ 3 (MODE +E))) (NAME SUP1311/27611[0]{SupraExpress 336i PnP Modem}) (ACT Y) )) # Card 2: (serial identifier f5 03 e7 b1 4b 9e 00 8c 0e) # Vendor Id CTL009e, Serial Number 65515851, checksum 0xF5. # Version 1.0, Vendor version 2.0 # ANSI string --Creative SB AWE64 Gold-- # # Logical device id CTL0044 # Device supports vendor reserved register @ 0x39 # Device supports vendor reserved register @ 0x3a # Device supports vendor reserved register @ 0x3e # # Edit the entries below to uncomment out the configuration required. # Note that only the first value of any range is given, this may be changed if required # Don't forget to uncomment the activate (ACT Y) when happy (CONFIGURE CTL009e/65515851 (LD 0 # ANSI string --Audio-- # Multiple choice time, choose one only ! (INT 0 (IRQ 5 (MODE +E))) (DMA 0 (CHANNEL 1)) (DMA 1 (CHANNEL 5)) (IO 0 (SIZE 16) (BASE 0x0220)) (IO 1 (SIZE 2) (BASE 0x0330)) (IO 2 (SIZE 4) (BASE 0x0388)) (NAME CTL009e/65515851[0]{Audio }) (ACT Y) )) # Compatible device id PNPb02f # ANSI string --Game-- (CONFIGURE CTL009e/65515851 (LD 1 (IO 0 (SIZE 8) (BASE 0x0200)) (NAME CTL009e/65515851[1]{Game}) (ACT Y) )) # ANSI string --WaveTable-- (CONFIGURE CTL009e/65515851 (LD 2 (IO 0 (SIZE 4) (BASE 0x0620)) (IO 1 (SIZE 4) (BASE 0x0A20)) (IO 2 (SIZE 4) (BASE 0x0E20)) (NAME CTL009e/65515851[2]{WaveTable }) (ACT Y) )) # End tag... Checksum 0x00 (OK) # Returns all cards to the Wait for Key state (WAITFORKEY)
Frame buffer's stuck
Hi, I tried to start with frame buffer, my ATI Rage Fury (cpu Rage 128 GL) is not supported by Linux. I setted everithing as the differents HOWTOz other .txt said, but when I make startx, xinit is launched (ok), but Xvfb -screen 0 1024x768x16 (wich is the mode under I work, saying 0x0317 to the vga=ask of lilo) stay stuck! I must make a ctrl-c to recover the hand on the console. Help me, I'm a newbie and I spent the whole week trying to make it work! Thanks in advance -- Jean-Yves BARBIER [EMAIL PROTECTED] Les choses ne sont pas toujours ce que l'on voudrait qu'elles soient qu'elles fussent... P. DAC
Re: Diald config problems
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- I think I can't help you too much. But, did you use pppconfig to set up your Internet connection? It's very easy to use. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have tried to figure this one out to no avail. This time on a new install. Diald (pppd) has peer refused to authenticate error after logging into server. pon works ok. Snip! May 4 16:38:36 nope kernel: registered device ppp0 May 4 16:38:37 nope pppd[189]: pppd 2.3.5 started by root, uid 0 May 4 16:38:37 nope pppd[189]: Using interface ppp0 May 4 16:38:37 nope pppd[189]: Connect: ppp0 -- /dev/ttyS1 May 4 16:38:38 nope pppd[189]: peer refused to authenticate May 4 16:38:41 nope pppd[189]: Connection terminated. May 4 16:38:42 nope pppd[189]: Exit. Snip! - -- Daniel González Gasull (`-/)_.-'``-._ The hottest places in [EMAIL PROTECTED] . . `; -._)-;-,_`) Hell are reserved for PGP RSA key 1024/EEA93A69(v_,)' _ )`-.\ ``-' those who, in times of _.- _..-_/ / ((.'fL moral crisis, preserved ((,.-' ((,/ their neutrality. -- Dante __ | Fight Spam! Join EuroCAUCE: http://www.euro.cauce.org/ | ~~ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3in Charset: latin1 Comment: Get my PGP key: http://www.arquired.es/users/dani iQCVAgUBNzMF1snE0dnuqTppAQG+/wQAm5lSf16D/jwEAiE2RR60DDIYARGbyNWT xJrYdthxT9Ps8HSWV17uf/ggOnHgj8PLo0KH4/NumqWeXLygQNNeu+sAgtPkSzlM kDrlH2JRh5Hc5f1NTNjbBrSti/NHIzbcI2Yg7SkxR7UpZO8Cg9mnx85oxCAcRL7Y g/sJgp47+7M= =ZeHk -END PGP SIGNATURE-
debmake help
I'm experimenting with making my first .deb. The howto's tell me to run build. I can find build anywhere. I have all the packages. debmake, dpk-dev, dh-make, debhelp but I can't find it. What am I missing. Roddie Rod 'Man is the greatest cancer ever to be seen' -Entombed 'Contempt'
Re: Fwd: Re: Time Keeps A changin'
I've done all that. I'm running 2.2.5 kernel, so that rules out the kernel problem. But, this did happen to me before, maybe if I reinstall the kernel it will fix it. Today, the time was off by 23 hours? Even the time difference isn't consistent from day to day. The funny thing is I did set date and while I was working it drifted back 24 hours. I had to do a ldconfig, maybe that did something. HMMM? let you know if I figure this one out! Rod when you installed (initally) you chose local time didn't you? SAME thing happened to me. in fact it happened to me TWICE (got a new hard drive so i had to reinstall, and it did it again!). i also run potato. supposedly i was using local time but something kept adjusting my clock. it was a base system so no i did not install anything that screwed it. which kernel are you using? oddly enough, when i made and started using a 2.2.X kernel, my time problems stopped. (of course i'm not suggesting this, i'm simply wondering if perhaps this time problem is associated somehow with potato and 2.0.36 kernels). i have no idea how to fix it... mine went away on its own, as i said. i'd like to know myself! Roddie Rod 'Man is the greatest cancer ever to be seen' -Entombed 'Contempt'
Installation problems
Hi everyone, This is my first time installing Linux. I've got the Debian packages on CD, but was forced to install the base systems on floppy disks because the CD drive was playing up (it's a sbpcd). At reboot it was detected successfully, but when I got to install the packages from the CD I'm asked for the block device name for the cd drive. I have no idea what it may be. Is there a way I can find out. Also, the ^C key does not work where I am and so the only thing I can do is type in the correct block name or reboot the system.. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. Nic.
Re: Two printers under lp
Subject: Two printers under lp Date: Fri, May 07, 1999 at 04:46:58PM + In reply to:Jose L Gomez Dans Quoting Jose L Gomez Dans([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Hi! I was wondering whether it's possible to have to printers attached to two parallel ports in one Linux machine being served by lp (*NOT* lprng). I have this set up right now, and one of them prints fine, the other gets stuff if I cat myfile.txt /dev/lp2. Files are copied to this printer's spool directory, but there they stay. If I issue an lpq, the queue appears to be empty. Any clues? Thanks, Jose -- I have to assume that you do have a prontcap for each file? If you are running a 2.2.x kernel the printers would be lp0 lp1. Only thing I can think of. -- As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error. -- Weisert ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help with apt
Subject: RE: Help with apt Date: Fri, May 07, 1999 at 11:20:12AM -0400 In reply to:Jonathan J. Lupa Quoting Jonathan J. Lupa([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Question: So how do I, running from a slink CD, get and install potato's apt? If I add entries for 'unstable' in /etc/apt/sources.list, and then go into dselect, it wants to upgrade my world to potato. Or if you do apt-get upgrade shudder Add the potato link to sources.list and then just do apt-get update ( to let apt dselect know about the potato Package lists) then apt-get install apt. Then I would comment out the potato entry in sources.list, lest I forget and do apt-get upgrade, and blow the whole thing out! Of course, I can always just go download the deb and run dpkg on it, but is there a better way? Yes, as I said above. Dselect ? Do people 'still' use that? -- Command, n.: Statement presented by a human and accepted by a computer in such a manner as to make the human feel as if he is in control. ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: LILO
Subject: Re: LILO Date: Fri, May 07, 1999 at 09:41:45AM -0700 In reply to:G. Crimp Quoting G. Crimp([EMAIL PROTECTED]): On Fri, May 07, 1999 at 10:00:11AM -0400, Wayne Topa wrote: [snip] # Generated by liloconfig # Specifies the boot device boot=/dev/hda1 boot should be the drive not that partition, ie boot = /dev/hda What do you mean by should ? I have several computers booting from a partition boot record, such as hda1 rather than from the MBR such as hda. You are correct! :-( Therefore, the LILO boot sector can be stored at the following locations: - boot sector of a Linux floppy disk. (/dev/fd0, ...) - MBR of the first hard disk. (/dev/hda, /dev/sda, ...) - boot sector of a primary Linux file system partition on the first hard disk. (/dev/hda1, ...) - partition boot sector of an extended partition on the first hard disk. (/dev/hda1, ...)* I had not read that before. Had always used the MBR. Humm, sorry about that. Also have not heard/read of any doing it that way. I have, again, learned something new. Thanks! So do 'you' have an answer for Rahsheen ? I sure don't. -- In English, every word can be verbed. Would that it were so in our programming languages. ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installation problems
On Sat, 8 May 1999, Nic Cottrell wrote: Hi everyone, Hello there... This is my first time installing Linux. I've got the Debian packages on CD, but was forced to install the base systems on floppy disks because the CD drive was playing up (it's a sbpcd). At reboot it was detected successfully, but when I got to install the packages from the CD I'm asked for the block device name for the cd drive. I have no idea what it may be. Is there a way I can find out. When you are installing debian if you press alt-f2 then you should see a screen with just a short line up the top of the screen, this is another virtual terminal, and if you press enter (I believe that's the thing, it's been a while since I installed debian on a system), then you will be at a command prompt. Have a look (dir works if you know dos, but it's better to get used to linux straight up and just type ls) in the /dev directory their should be a file called sbpcd, and a couple more called sbpcdx (where x is 1-4). As such the device name for the cdrom drive should be /dev/sbpcd, or if that does not work try /dev/sbpcd0, /dev/sbpcd1..etc... This is only an educated guess, as you may need to have a module loaded to access your cd-rom and if you have not loaded it, then you won't be able to access it anyway... (During install you should have had to insert a drivers disk, or something similiar, after that it should have given you a big listing of things, these are the modules available in the base distribution (you make others yourself, ie the ones for your soundcard). If you haven't loaded the module, try changing to another virtual terminal (there are 6 normally installed in the base setup, where alt-f1 take you too the first vt), and then running modconf, you'll then be shown the same program which you should have loaded the module for the cd in the first time. Also, the ^C key does not work where I am and so the only thing I can do is type in the correct block name or reboot the system.. Try using ctrl-x during initial install ctrl-c is disabled (at least it was on my machine, don't know if it is supposed to be or not, but it prevents accidents grin). Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. That's okay, all I have is ideas, I don't actually own a sbpcd cdrom drive :) but I did have a phillips lms-205MS (don't ask, and thier isn't a driver that works for that particular model frown phillips being stuck-up again...). Hope this helps, Peter Ludwig
Re: Help with apt
*- On 7 May, Wayne Topa wrote about Re: Help with apt Or if you do apt-get upgrade shudder Add the potato link to sources.list and then just do apt-get update ( to let apt dselect know about the potato Package lists) then apt-get install apt. Then I would comment out the potato entry in sources.list, lest I forget and do apt-get upgrade, and blow the whole thing out! Of course, I can always just go download the deb and run dpkg on it, but is there a better way? Yes, as I said above. Dselect ? Do people 'still' use that? Dselect is great for upgrading in small blocks. Use it to put whole sections on hold(=). This is what I did during the hamm-slink freeze period when X was going through rapid fire updates. Also good for isp's that have quotas on downloads/period. -- Brian - Mechanical Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] Purdue University http://www.ecn.purdue.edu/~servis -
Mouse problems in X-Windows
I've just recently purchased a new mouse, and it is supposed to be a three-button mouse (software configurable), but two problems, 1) they forgot to include the software, and 2) it does not respond to the normal three button mouse reset codes. Now, my main problem (I'll be satisfied using it as a two button mouse), is that quite often when I'm on the internet I've got both an X-session going, and am doing things on virtual terminals. Occassionally (it doesn't happen all the time), when I switch back to X-Windows the mouse decides to die, it seems to be repetitively pressing the right mouse button. Does anyone have any ideas??? The main IC in the mouse is a EM8370BP if this helps... It's very generic, and was a cheapie... Regards, Peter Ludwig
Possible package breakage?
Hi, Looking in the potato packages file, I noticed that bsdmainutils depends on bsdutils(=3.0-0). The version of bsdutils, in potato, is 2.9i-1 and recommends bsdmainutils. Per the packages file, bsdmainutils replaces bsdutils(3.0-0). Is this going to break anything? Thanks, Jim
Windows won't boot
I have a 6.4Gb drive that has a 1.6Gb primary partition and a 4.8Gb extended partition. The extended partition has 3 logical partitions, each 1.6Gb. Linux is on a separate 1Gb drive on the primary IDE slave. I want to move linux to the 6.4Gb drive. I cleared the files from the last logical partition (Windows drive f:). Then I used fdisk (DOS version) to delete the last logical partition (f:) in the extended partition. Fdisk said to reboot to make the changes take effect. When I rebooted, the computer hung on the BIOS setup after the message Verifying DMI pool data. I have to use the Windows boot floppy to get the machine up. Then I use loadlin to boot linux (lilo is not configured). What must I do to get Windows to boot again? What did I do to make the system not boot? Thanks for your help. Greg Scharrer
Re: Time Keeps A changin'
Hi roddie; unless Mutt is confused, you wrote: I've done all that. I'm running 2.2.5 kernel, so that rules out the kernel problem. But, this did happen to me before, maybe if I reinstall the kernel it will fix it. Today, the time was off by 23 hours? Even the time difference isn't consistent from day to day. The funny thing is I did set date and while I was working it drifted back 24 hours. I had to do a ldconfig, maybe that did something. HMMM? let you know if I figure this one out! Rod Well, I thought it was just my computer...I'm running slink, but my times are often off- even if I do a netdate, and adjust the hwclock. Since I haven't noticed this before I installed enightenment_0.15.4 (w/o gnome!), I thought it was E or some lib of it doing it, but I have since purged all of the E pkgs, using only windowmaker, and the clock is still off. I'm using pretty much all slink system, with libc6 and _not_ libc6.1, and 2.0.36 kernel. Hope this helps some of you pinpoint the problem, damir
Re: Windows won't boot
boot with a boot disk and run fdisk and tell me what the partition table says. which partition is marked as active, and what types it thinks they all are. when you use the floppy, does it give any messages? how do you boot from the floppy EXACTLY? do you have to type anything, etc, or just type win? is the slave disk fat16 or fat32, and how did you move the files you moved? is large disk support enabled (in fdisk youll see it ask that, if you got the same version i do anyway)? (but then, i suppose if it was linux wouldnt boot and it does, correct?) --- quote o' the day: I got sucked into /dev/null - Original Message - From: Greg Scharrer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Friday, May 07, 1999 11:29 PM Subject: Windows won't boot I have a 6.4Gb drive that has a 1.6Gb primary partition and a 4.8Gb extended partition. The extended partition has 3 logical partitions, each 1.6Gb. Linux is on a separate 1Gb drive on the primary IDE slave. I want to move linux to the 6.4Gb drive. I cleared the files from the last logical partition (Windows drive f:). Then I used fdisk (DOS version) to delete the last logical partition (f:) in the extended partition. Fdisk said to reboot to make the changes take effect. When I rebooted, the computer hung on the BIOS setup after the message Verifying DMI pool data. I have to use the Windows boot floppy to get the machine up. Then I use loadlin to boot linux (lilo is not configured). What must I do to get Windows to boot again? What did I do to make the system not boot? Thanks for your help. Greg Scharrer -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Kernel 2.2.5 and make-kpkg
After running make menuconfig, make dep, and make-kpkg clean , and then finally to build the kernel package: make-kpkg --rev test1 kernel_image Okay, I know I'll probably give a few people some laughs here..but my .deb package is no where to be found..I had about a 7 minute wait while the kernel compiled and poof, no .deb with the Kernel..any ideas? Jayson S. Baird Luminous beings are we, not this crude matter -- Yoda [EMAIL PROTECTED]/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Russian: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --
xset - global settings
Hi all: I'm experimenting with utilizing xset's dpms setting to suspend and turn off my monitor. It works fine if I add a line like this: /usr/X11R6/bin/xset dpms 300 600 900 to my .xsession. Problem: I would like to go a step further and set this feature to work even wiht graphical login screen. So that if I boot up my computer, but don't want to login, the screen would be blanked after certain time. Which script do I put the setting in? I tried /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc, /etc/X11/Xsession, and /etc/X11/wdm/Xstartup_0, but I guess all these scripts are read only *after* an actual login by a user. -- Arcady Genkin
Re: xosview
Robert V. MacQuarrie wrote: Has anyone been able to get xosview to run on a 2.2.x kernel system? I currently have a Dual P200 system with Debian 2.1. Since updating to the 2.2.5 kernel I have not been able to use xosview at all. It starts but does not display anything at all and I have to kill the process. Robert, I have the 2.2.5 kernel running on both slink and hamm. Xosview on the slink disk doesn't work. It seems to be using up the cpu, but no display. On the hamm disk, however, it runs. The problem may be with slink or the slink/2.2.5 combination rather than the kernel itself? John Carline I have the Version: 1.6.1-4 of xosview installed right now and have tried all other debian versions to no avail. I've noticed while reading some archive lists via the web that the older versions had a problem with the 2.2.x kernels but i havent found any reference to what the problem was or if there has been a fix to it. I find this a great little resource and would love to be able to get it to work again. Any help on this would be greatly appreciated. # Robert V. MacQuarrie Web Designing For Both [EMAIL PROTECTED]Personal And Small Business Solutions PGP Key Request: Reply to this email with the subject as request pgpkey # E-Mail Sent From A 100% Microsoft FREE Environment. Support Debian Linux! Debian GNU/Linux - The Only 100% Non-Commercial OS http://www.debian.org/ -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Time Keeps A changin'
as i said i had the same problems with slink. as i replied privately to roddie, this time problem i had in slink coincided with the breaking of my linker. i really don't know WHAT caused it, but every time i used apt to try to upgrade to potato it broke my linker and my time was messed up. in the end i gave up and installed a potato base, and both broke again in the same exact manner when i upgraded my linker with apt. i concluded that if i start with potato and don't upgrade anything having to do with ldso or the linker in any way, it stops that problem. still i can't figure out what a linker would have to do with time! perhaps its something in libc6 that was clashing with the potato packages. no dependency problems were reported and everything went smoothly but it broke on me over and over in the end i gave up on slink. potato is working great for me, even with libc6.1. in fact it seems more stable than my slink was. maybe i'm just lucky? or maybe there was a faulty .deb package at the time i was using apt to try to upgrade? its an interesting dilemma for sure...and stranger still, the breaking of my slink system seemed to be caused by apt.. if i didnt use apt to install anything, it was fine. shrug anyone else with an odd time problem, or who has experienced it, please give input. thanks! - Original Message - From: Damir J. Naden [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Saturday, May 08, 1999 12:18 AM Subject: Re: Time Keeps A changin' Hi roddie; unless Mutt is confused, you wrote: I've done all that. I'm running 2.2.5 kernel, so that rules out the kernel problem. But, this did happen to me before, maybe if I reinstall the kernel it will fix it. Today, the time was off by 23 hours? Even the time difference isn't consistent from day to day. The funny thing is I did set date and while I was working it drifted back 24 hours. I had to do a ldconfig, maybe that did something. HMMM? let you know if I figure this one out! Rod Well, I thought it was just my computer...I'm running slink, but my times are often off- even if I do a netdate, and adjust the hwclock. Since I haven't noticed this before I installed enightenment_0.15.4 (w/o gnome!), I thought it was E or some lib of it doing it, but I have since purged all of the E pkgs, using only windowmaker, and the clock is still off. I'm using pretty much all slink system, with libc6 and _not_ libc6.1, and 2.0.36 kernel. Hope this helps some of you pinpoint the problem, damir -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Unidentified subject!
in what package can i find ieee854.h ?? thanks -- --No Regrets--
Modules after kernel upgrade.
I use Debian 2.1 with kernel 2.0.36. I baked a new kernel for use with my AWE64 Soundblaster. In the process it was adviced to rename /lib/modules/2.0.36 to /lib/modules/2.0.36-old before installing the new kernel package. After intstalling there was a new /lib/modules/2.0.36 directory, but essential files like ps2aux.o were missing, making me have to live without a mouse now. Do I have to bake a new kernel now for these modules to be included and automatically activated, or can I still remedy the situation afterwards. Understand the kernel needs to trigger these modules, but how is that exactly done? With a initiating file maybe? I hope anybody can give some background apart from a workable solution. Have a nice weekend. Hans
Re: What is the good tool to debug for segmentation error
On Fri, 7 May 1999, Min Xu wrote: I tried that. It gives me: ... Core was generated by `a.out'. Program terminated with signal 11, Segmentation fault. Reading symbols from /lib/libm.so.6...done. Reading symbols from /lib/libc.so.6...done. Reading symbols from /lib/ld-linux.so.2...done. #0 0x4000a0dd in fixup () (gdb) where #0 0x4000a0dd in fixup () #1 0x4000a310 in () (gdb) The function fixup() is not in the hoc program. Then where it comes? Either libm.so.6, libc.so.6, or ld-linux.so.2. Looking at that, your program never even got off the ground. Most likely it is using binary incompatible libraries or the executable is corrupted or something like that. Doesn't look like a programming error to me (but it could be, it's just a guess). I would try make clean and rebuilding the software from scratch, to be sure some kind of build error isn't breaking things. Havoc
Re: Newbie: Installation problems
On %M 0, Sudhir P wrote Hi, Please excuse me for the wide distribution. And do excuse me for not being able to give the exact technical terms in the following. I have tried to explain the situation to the best extent that I can (now). My present set up: -- I have an i586 system in which I have dos, linux (Redhat and Debian) installed (after lot of goof-ups and struggles, being a novice that I am). The partition details are as follows /dev/hda1 - DOS /dev/hda2 - Linux partition (I suppose, I am not very confortable with this naming convention, so please excuse me) /dev/hda5 - RedHat Linux (kernel - 2.0.36) /dev/hda6 - Swap space (common to both Redhat and Debian) /dev/hda7 - Debian Linux (kernel - 2.0.36) The MBR contains the LILO. My lilo.conf in /dev/hda5 (Redhat) contains details of the setup, and the details about Debian kernel (being present in /dev/hda7, boot-label=debian). I am assuming that this is where it is taking information from when I type debian at my lilo prompt, the kernel being loaded from /dev/hda7. Dos (Windows-95) and Redhat are fully operational. There is some problem with debian however. I am not able to go beyond the base-kernel installation. I have configured in the kernel to support cd-roms with the common CD-ROMs option that is available for CD-ROM device drivers. There is a part of the installation where u have to give details about the access medium (default being /dev/cdrom). When I accept this as my default or even type in /dev/cdrom, it is reported as an error. It says that it is unable to find the device (even though installation is going on from the device). If I go to another virtual-terminal and try: mount /dev/cdrom, it gives an error message stating that there is no entry in the /etc/fstab. If I make an entry in the same, and issue mount /dev/cdroom, an error message stating that the kernel doesn't support this filesystem (iso9660) is issued. I am unable to go beyond this. No packages are being installed as I haven't been able to specify /dev/cdrom as my source. There are several things you should check: - Does /dev/cdrom actually exist? - Is it a symlink pointing to your CDROM drive (e.g., - /dev/hdb)? - Is isofs module loaded? Can you load it with 'modprobe isofs'? - Is your entry for /dev/cdrom in /etc/fstab correct? It should look something like /dev/cdrom /cdrom iso9660 defaults,ro 0 0 - Does the mount point listed in /etc/fstab (/cdrom, in the example above) exist (and is it a directory)? - Can you mount /dev/cdrom now, after checking the above? - If so, *and* you were able to load the isofs module manually, then either add 'isofs' to /etc/modules, or install kerneld. Hope this helps, John P. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oh - I - you know - my job is to fear everything. - Bill Gates in Denmark
bash functions
Reply-To: While doing some reading, I came across a section regarding adding functions to .bash_profile like this tarc () { tar -cvzf $1.tar.gz $1 } but whenever I try to source the .bash_profile I get syntax error, unexpected EOF messages. The article was old and I assume that bash no loger supports this syntax, I messed around with this quite a bit and can't seem to make it work. Can anyone offer me advice on this subject? I think these functions would be quite handy. -- Absence diminishes mediocre passions and increases great ones, as the wind blows out candles and fans fires. -- La Rochefoucauld
help on configring smail
Hi, I tried this for many times and still does not work. Some sites do a smtp look up and I cannot send mails to these sites because my local domain name is not qualified. How do I fix this?? By putting a qualified domain name does not fix the problem. Here is the error message: |- Failed addresses follow: -| [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... transport smtp: 551 [EMAIL PROTECTED]... invalid host name virge,check your +configuration. |- Message text follows: | Thanks. Shao. -- Shao Zhang - Running Debian 2.1 ___ _ _ Department of Communications/ __| |_ __ _ ___ |_ / |_ __ _ _ _ __ _ University of New South Wales \__ \ ' \/ _` / _ \ / /| ' \/ _` | ' \/ _` | Sydney, Australia |___/_||_\__,_\___/ /___|_||_\__,_|_||_\__, | Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |___/ _
Re: Unidentified subject!
what i do to find specific files in packages is go to http://www.debian.org, packages area, and near the bottom there's 2 searches. first is for packages, second one you can look for specific files IN dists. works for me. quote o' the day: I got sucked into /dev/null - Original Message - From: jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Saturday, May 08, 1999 1:30 AM Subject: Unidentified subject! in what package can i find ieee854.h ?? thanks -- --No Regrets-- -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: xosview
Subject: xosview Date: Fri, May 07, 1999 at 03:42:50PM -0500 In reply to:Robert V. MacQuarrie Quoting Robert V. MacQuarrie([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Has anyone been able to get xosview to run on a 2.2.x kernel system? I currently have a Dual P200 system with Debian 2.1. Since updating to the 2.2.5 kernel I have not been able to use xosview at all. It starts but does not display anything at all and I have to kill the process. I have the Version: 1.6.1-4 of xosview installed right now and have tried all other debian versions to no avail. I've noticed while reading some archive lists via the web that the older versions had a problem with the 2.2.x kernels but i havent found any reference to what the problem was or if there has been a fix to it. I find this a great little resource and would love to be able to get it to work again. Any help on this would be greatly appreciated. Its been dead here since I went to 2.2.2. Doesn't show up on the screen but checking ps or top, it was using over 96% of the cpu. Think I read in the Debian Weekly News that the author had been told of the problem and was working on it. -- Imagine if every Thursday your shoes exploded if you tied them the usual way. This happens to us all the time with computers, and nobody thinks of complaining. -- Jeff Raskin, interviewed in Doctor Dobb's Journal ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: bash functions
On Fri, 7 May 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While doing some reading, I came across a section regarding adding functions to .bash_profile like this tarc () { tar -cvzf $1.tar.gz $1 } but whenever I try to source the .bash_profile I get syntax error, unexpected EOF messages. Just move the close brace down to the next line and it works for me. Havoc
Re: Pico.
Thanks a lot for the info. Chip Bruce Sass wrote: You can get pine/pico/pilot binary .debs (3.96 and 4.10) from: http://www.ompages.com/debian/pkgs/pine/pine.html [Thanks to Santiago for making the source packages, and to Paul for compiling and making them available.] - Bruce -- On Thu, 6 May 1999, Fu-Dong Chiou wrote: Hi all, I was wondering if anyone can tell me why I cannot find a simple editor pico on my Debian 2.1r2 packages. Thanks a lot! Best wishes, Chip Best wishes, Chip
[TESTME] Mozilla M4 .deb
Hi everyone, Me and Brent Fulgham managed to get Mozilla (nescaffe 5.0 prerelease for those who don't know) milestone four (M4) Debian package ready for wider testing. Please, download the .debs (two are needed, mozilla and libnspr21) from here: http://www.debian.org/~joy/mozilla/ If there are no larger problems (i.e. no doesn't-run or instant coredumps), it'll go into potato. We'd appreciate if any porters would try to recompile the source (all of which can be found in the same directory). Anything related to these packages should NOT be reported to the BTS, but [EMAIL PROTECTED] (or, if you prefer {joy,[EMAIL PROTECTED]). Happy testing! P.S. yes, I DO know that M5 is out! :) We'll package that soon, when M4 works... -- enJoy -*/\*- http://jagor.srce.hr/~jrodin/
The Null-Modem cable info
Hi! Here is all the stufff that you need if you want to connect a win95 (I dunno if the modem.inf works with win98, but you can try) box to your linux box with a null modem cable and pppd. The modem.inf file attached is not my own work. I just added a line there to get it running with pppd. Much credit goes to the original author, but I don't know who he/she is. The modem.inf file contains 3 drivers. The Generic NULL modem driver is the correct one. The perl scribt pppcontrol, and the shell script startppp go into /sbin on your linux box. The perl script supplied is acctually not nessecerry. You can equally well use cron to do what it does. The pppcontrol script is started in one of your rc files with /sbin/pppcontrol . What it does is simply looping forever and checking that the pppd is running on the linux box. I couldn't get the persist option working with pppd, if you get it working you don't need the perl script. As I said pppcontrol loops all the time and checks every 30 secs if pppd is running (It assumes /usr/sbin/pppd to be the path). If pppd is not running anymore it will call startppp to get pppd back up again. The reason why you need a script to check if pppd is running is simply because pppd will exit with an LCP config request timeout after a while because your win95 box is switched of or something. You might want to change the network options in startppp to your liking. pppd opions: local Means that you don't use a modem. noauth is used so you don't have to enter any user name and password on the win95 maschine. If you want authentication, change it. nocrtcts disables hardware flow control. xonxoff enables software flow control Configuring the win95 box: Of course you need to enter all the network options correctly in win95 dun.. like the IP address. If you use the noauth option in pppd, it doesn't matter what you enter as username and password. As a phone number just enter anything.. I don't remember if you can leave the field empty or not. Just enter 123. What I did to get my win95 laptop to automatically log in to my linux box at startup was this: There is checkbox somewhere in DUN (don't remeber where) that disables the confirmation you have to click every time you open a DUN connection. Check that, and then simply trow a Shortcut into you StartMenu\Startup folder to the DUN connection. I hope you can make some sense out of this.. For any clarification please e-mail me! Of course you can change as much as you want to my scripts and the rest. As I said the modem.inf file is acctually not my own work. Please let me know if you got it working! -- Hans Dumbrajs / [EMAIL PROTECTED] attachment: pppd-dun.zip
Re: The Null-Modem cable info
Hans Dumbrajs wrote: Hi! Here is all the stufff that you need if you want to connect a win95 (I dunno if the modem.inf works with win98, but you can try) box to your linux box with a null modem cable and pppd. The modem.inf file attached is not my own work. I just added a line there to get it running with pppd. Much credit goes to the original author, but I don't know who he/she is. The modem.inf file contains 3 drivers. The Generic NULL modem driver is the correct one. The perl scribt pppcontrol, and the shell script startppp go into /sbin on your linux box. The perl script supplied is acctually not nessecerry. You can equally well use cron to do what it does. The pppcontrol script is started in one of your rc files with /sbin/pppcontrol . What it does is simply looping forever and checking that the pppd is running on the linux box. I couldn't get the persist option working with pppd, if you get it working you don't need the perl script. As I said pppcontrol loops all the time and checks every 30 secs if pppd is running (It assumes /usr/sbin/pppd to be the path). If pppd is not running anymore it will call startppp to get pppd back up again. The reason why you need a script to check if pppd is running is simply because pppd will exit with an LCP config request timeout after a while because your win95 box is switched of or something. You might want to change the network options in startppp to your liking. pppd opions: local Means that you don't use a modem. noauth is used so you don't have to enter any user name and password on the win95 maschine. If you want authentication, change it. nocrtcts disables hardware flow control. xonxoff enables software flow control Configuring the win95 box: Of course you need to enter all the network options correctly in win95 dun.. like the IP address. If you use the noauth option in pppd, it doesn't matter what you enter as username and password. As a phone number just enter anything.. I don't remember if you can leave the field empty or not. Just enter 123. What I did to get my win95 laptop to automatically log in to my linux box at startup was this: There is checkbox somewhere in DUN (don't remeber where) that disables the confirmation you have to click every time you open a DUN connection. Check that, and then simply trow a Shortcut into you StartMenu\Startup folder to the DUN connection. I hope you can make some sense out of this.. For any clarification please e-mail me! Of course you can change as much as you want to my scripts and the rest. As I said the modem.inf file is acctually not my own work. Please let me know if you got it working! -- Hans Dumbrajs / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Name: pppd-dun.zip pppd-dun.zipType: Zip Compressed Data (application/x-zip-compressed) Encoding: base64 I forgot an important thing: Don't forget to set your serial port on the win95 box to use XON/XOFF!! Otherwise you're get crappy performance. I get about 11k/sec now which is really good for a 115200 serial port.
Re: ZIP drive and kernel 2.2?
Did you compile support for the parallel port and for the correct type of Zip drive -- ppa or imm? No, since I use kernel 2.2.5 comming from potato. There is however a ppa module comming with that kernel, but I can_t just say insmod ppa, because then I get a device or ressource bussy error. Stef
Re: Motif headers?
On Fri, May 07, 1999 at 18:01:39 +0200, Stefano Stabilini wrote: Is there something like a free runtime version of Motif around? No. For commercial Motif versions, you need to pay money for using the shared lib. Would Lesstif just do fine? That depends on the Motif version the code expects. It's certainly worth a try. HTH, Ray -- Tevens ben ik van mening dat Nederland overdekt dient te worden.
Re: Via chipset problems
Original Message On 5/7/99, 1:26:27 AM, Bob Nielsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote regarding Re: Via chipset problems: Hi Bob, try use DMA by default when available. Thanks I think I've spotted it don't use ^. I'm not going to try it again. Spose I should find out how to boot from floppy to run e2fsck, then can e2fsck fix problems it finds ? Cheers, Colin Tree On Thu, May 06, 1999 at 11:57:25AM +0300, Heikki Ylipiessa wrote: On Thu, 6 May 1999, Colin Tree wrote: Hi, Yo! I have a K6II-350 on a motherboard which has a Via Apollo MVP3 chipset. I tried kernel 2.2.1 a couple of times. If I select via82c586 chipset support and PCI bus-master DMA support, it stuffs the whole file system. I patched it up to 2.2.7, still the same problem. Has anyone else seen this? Who do I report it to? Is there a kernel group? I had similar problems .. but when i disabled the VIA support nb after that . so the problem is with via driver . Don't know whos work is it .. but i hope someone will do something about this BUG asap. What are the symptoms of this? I just recompiled 2.2.7 with via support to take a look. So far I don't see any problems.
dependencies
I'm getting these errors... yet I have these files in /lib/ failed dependencies: ld-linux.so.2 is needed by XFree86_3DFX-SVGA-3.3.3-4 libc.so.6 is needed by XFree86_3DFX-SVGA-3.3.3-4 libdl.so.2 is needed by XFree86_3DFX-SVGA-3.3.3-4 libm.so.6 is needed by XFree86_3DFX-SVGA-3.3.3-4 XFree86-VGA16 is needed by XFree86_3DFX-XF86Setup-3.3.3-4 /bin/sh is needed by XFree86_3DFX-XF86Setup-3.3.3-4 ld-linux.so.2 is needed by XFree86_3DFX-XF86Setup-3.3.3-4 libICE.so.6 is needed by XFree86_3DFX-XF86Setup-3.3.3-4 libSM.so.6 is needed by XFree86_3DFX-XF86Setup-3.3.3-4 libX11.so.6 is needed by XFree86_3DFX-XF86Setup-3.3.3-4 libXaw.so.6 is needed by XFree86_3DFX-XF86Setup-3.3.3-4 libXext.so.6 is needed by XFree86_3DFX-XF86Setup-3.3.3-4 libXmu.so.6 is needed by XFree86_3DFX-XF86Setup-3.3.3-4 libXt.so.6 is needed by XFree86_3DFX-XF86Setup-3.3.3-4 libc.so.6 is needed by XFree86_3DFX-XF86Setup-3.3.3-4 libdl.so.2 is needed by XFree86_3DFX-XF86Setup-3.3.3-4 libm.so.6 is needed by XFree86_3DFX-XF86Setup-3.3.3-4 libtcl.so is needed by XFree86_3DFX-XF86Setup-3.3.3-4 libtk.so is needed by XFree86_3DFX-XF86Setup-3.3.3-4 /bin/sh is needed by XFree86_3DFX-XF86Setup-3.3.3-4 /bin/sh is needed by XFree86_3DFX-rushlib-3.3.3-4 ld-linux.so.2 is needed by XFree86_3DFX-rushlib-3.3.3-4 libc.so.6 is needed by XFree86_3DFX-rushlib-3.3.3-4 Matthew McFarlane -
Re: debmake help
roddie [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: roddie I'm experimenting with making my first .deb. roddie roddie The howto's tell me to run build. I can find build anywhere. I roddie have all the packages. debmake, dpk-dev, dh-make, debhelp but roddie I can't find it. 'build' changed its name in version 2.0.0 of the devscripts package to 'debuild'. Try installing the devscripts package, if you haven't already, and reading its README file. -- David Maze [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://donut.mit.edu/dmaze/ Hey, Doug, do you mind if I push the Emergency Booth Self-Destruct Button? Oh, sure, Dave, whatever...you _do_ know what that does, right?
8 Newbie Questions
I just installed debian about three days ago and have several questions about navigating within debian and about accessing devices. If you can help me with one or more of these questions it would be greatly appreciated as I am growing a bit frustrated with not knowing what I am doing :) 1) How do I move from one partitioned drive to another? How do I know the drive letters to use too? 2) How do I copy files from my floppy drive to my partitioned debian drive? 3) Why does debian say 'only the root can do that' when I type the line below: $ mount /dev/fd0 (or any other floppy drive) I can't cd /dev/fd0 nor can I figure out how to access it. 4) How can i get a network connection or simulated network connection between my win95 pc debin pc via serial or via their modems? Windows allows direct connect with other windows pc, what can I use with debian? 5) How determine hardware which is functioning properly and how determine which kernels need to be removed or changed? I know with windows I had device manager and msd.exe. What do I have with debian? 6) How change kernels once I know the above? I'd like to remove the devices that I installed to the kernels during inital installation of debian but don't actually have in my system yet. I also want to add a new serial card since I never set one up when I installed debian. The new serial card is now in the pc. I don't know how to do this after the fact. I type 'setserial' and a bunch of stuff scrolls by that doesn't make sense to me yet. 7) Why can't I access my floppy after booting from it? I have /floppy on my system. I can see it by cd / and then typing ls. When I cd to /floppy and then try to write to it I get 'permission denied'. I read from it without error messages, it appears to be an empty directory. I can't access either of my physical floppy drives attached to my system when I read from it with ls commands and /dev/fd(x). 8) Do I have to regularly compile my own linux software? Aren't binaries available like with dos and windows? So much linux software on the net that I've seen isn't in binary format, it's rpm or plain source format. Is this standard for linux software? Can I use these with debian 2.1? * I hope you don't think I just posted without looking for the answers online. I've visited over 500 sites online, I've downloaded 40+ apps but can't use them because they are stuck on my win95 system or floppies, tried to access 'man man' to read the manual (but get an error can't open the manpath configuration file /etc/manpath.config), I've read the help menu by typing 'help' and then hitting CONTROL-Z to stop it from scrolling off the screen and then type each command to see if I can figure out what they do, and still haven't found the answers to my questions. I hope you can help. Thanks in advance! Andre p.s. I've already downloaded mtools but since I can't copy the mtools files from the floppy to my partitioned debian drive, I'm stuck!!! My debian pc seems to be up and running just fine, I just can't do this or any other commands to the floppy: $ ls -a /dev/fp0 The floppy disk drive light doesn't even light up on when entering commands. This indicates that maybe the drive is not mounted properly in my linux system (I'm guessing), though I boot into my linux system from floppy just fine. :( ¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥« Attention Web Designers and Internet Marketing Professionals! Increase your Internet Profits Without Marketing Risks Go to http://www.one-click.com a href=http://www.one-click.com;http://www.one-click.com/a
Re: bash functions
Subject: bash functions Date: Fri, May 07, 1999 at 10:27:23PM -0800 In reply to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Reply-To: While doing some reading, I came across a section regarding adding functions to .bash_profile like this tarc () { tar -cvzf $1.tar.gz $1 } but whenever I try to source the .bash_profile I get syntax error, unexpected EOF messages. The article was old and I assume that bash no loger supports this syntax, I messed around with this quite a bit and can't seem to make it work. Can anyone offer me advice on this subject? I think these functions would be quite handy. It took me awhile to find the answer to this one myself. As I recall it started when I went to bash 2.xx. Here is what I used to fix them up #extract an archive tarx() { tar xzvf $1; } #make (create) an archive tarc() { tar czvf $1.tar.gz $1; } As you can see it was the ; -- One good reason why computers can do more work than people is that they never have to stop and answer the phone. ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Kernel 2.2.5 and make-kpkg
JB == Jayson Baird [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: JB Okay, I know I'll probably give a few people some laughs here..but JB my .deb package is no where to be found..I had about a 7 minute JB wait while the kernel compiled and poof, no .deb with the JB Kernel..any ideas? They are created one directory level above. cd .. ls kernel-image*.deb Ciao, Martin
Apt still not working
Okay, this is getting frustrating :( Please, if anyone has any ideas, I would really appreciate them. I now have two computers installed from the same set of official slink CDs (burned from the official images). I must be doing something *really* stupid, because they are both misbehaving in exactly the same way. After some poking around in /var/lib/dpkg/available, etc, I have been able to narrow down the problem to the following: apt is only registering the availability of contrib and non-free, but not main. All the entries in available have either Section: contrib/xxx or Section: non-free/xxx. The procedure I went through during install is as follows (maybe I missed some step that should have been obvious...) Boot from first CD, go through install procedure, etc. Select tasks. Go into dselect in the install procedure. Choose multi-cd as the method. Select the paths. Update list of packages. Skip the select page, and go straight to install. Answer all the packages questions. Do the configure and remove steps, just in case. Quit dselect. Use the system (it works fine at this point - all the packages are there) do apt-get update - appears to work fine do apt-get install (anything in main) no installation candidate do apt-get install (anything in contrib/non-free) [usually] unmet dependencies Going into dselect and changing the method to apt acquisition makes no difference. Changing the sources.list lines to say unstable instead of stable also makes no difference. Here are the exact lines from sources.list on one of the computers: deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable non-US Thank you in advance for any help, Stuart.
xwindows wanted
Is xwindows already installed on my system when I installed debian 2.1? I can't seem to find it by cd / and then reading the subdirectories from there. If it's not there, where can I download it from? I've visited over 500 sites over the last week looking for it and I'll I can find are programs which require xwindows and people who are trying to sell me stuff -- I've obviously looked at the wrong 500 sites :( Can you help?!? Thanks! Andre
Re: bash functions
Does bash contain a pause feature other than control-z? When I type 'help' the screen scrolls past and control-z doesn't stop the top few lines from scrolling away before I can read them. with dos I'd just type 'dir /p' or type 'filename |more' Are there equivalent set of commands for bash? Thanks! Andre' At 10:27 PM 5/7/99 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Reply-To: While doing some reading, I came across a section regarding adding functions to .bash_profile like this tarc () { tar -cvzf $1.tar.gz $1 } but whenever I try to source the .bash_profile I get syntax error, unexpected EOF messages. The article was old and I assume that bash no loger supports this syntax, I messed around with this quite a bit and can't seem to make it work. Can anyone offer me advice on this subject? I think these functions would be quite handy. -- Absence diminishes mediocre passions and increases great ones, as the wind blows out candles and fans fires. -- La Rochefoucauld -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: PCI Soundblaster card?
Hi, Thanks, I've still got the 2.2.0 archive so I'll just get the patch. A 13 meg download would give me a headache :-) -- Andy Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED] The path of my life is strewn with cow pats from the devil's own satanic herd!, Edmund Blackadder
Re: 8 Newbie Questions
André Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 1) How do I move from one partitioned drive to another? How do I know the drive letters to use too? There is no such thing as drive letters. Partitions ar mounted around in the directory structure and you move around just like on any other directory. 2) How do I copy files from my floppy drive to my partitioned debian drive? Either you mount it (on /floppy) or uses mcopy from the mtools package. 3) Why does debian say 'only the root can do that' when I type the line below: $ mount /dev/fd0 (or any other floppy drive) I can't cd /dev/fd0 nor can I figure out how to access it. Because only root may mount devices as default. Edit you /etc/fstab and put auto as an option in the line mentioning /dev/fd0. Please read man fstab first. 5) How determine hardware which is functioning properly and how determine which kernels need to be removed or changed? I know with windows I had device manager and msd.exe. What do I have with debian? Use the hardware. If it works - it works. You probally can get som information out of /proc/devices and such files. 6) How change kernels once I know the above? I'd like to remove the devices Install kernel-package and a kernel-source and read the documentation for kernel-package. 7) Why can't I access my floppy after booting from it? I have /floppy on You havn't mounted you floppy. #mount /dev/fd0 /floppy as root should do it. But read man fstab it make it possible to mount the floppy as non-root. 8) Do I have to regularly compile my own linux software? Aren't binaries No. Almost any software you ever need exist as debian packages on www.debian.org. If you really really really need something that aint packaged for debian please say so. Probally others needs it as well. p.s. I've already downloaded mtools but since I can't copy the mtools files from the floppy to my partitioned debian drive, I'm stuck!!! How did you install debian? Are you sure you didn't allready have mtools installed? Read some book about unix. I'm very sorry but you seem rather clueless on some fundemental stuff and then its hard to help. -- Peter er den mindst gamle af de gammeldags usenettere, og moderator på den eneste modererede gruppe i dk.*, so there. - citat RockBear
Re: bash functions
André Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Does bash contain a pause feature other than control-z? try: $ command | less where command is what you want to do. -- Peter er den mindst gamle af de gammeldags usenettere, og moderator på den eneste modererede gruppe i dk.*, so there. - citat RockBear
gimp: gif support?
I didn't found any gif support in gimp of slink. is that because of the licence of gif or what? before I installed I used suse 6.0... and there gif support in gimp. Is there a possiblity how I can get gif support in gimp with debian 2.1 (slink)? thanks and regrads, -- Joel Gautschi aka J-freak / Carrots http://www.game-over.ch/ (german)
Re: xwindows wanted
André Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is xwindows already installed on my system when I installed debian 2.1? I can't seem to find it by cd / and then reading the subdirectories from there. It probally is. (I don't remember what a standard installation looks like.) Try looking at /usr/X11R6/ Before using Xwindow you need to configure it. You could do this with /usr/X11R6/XF86Setup or /usr/X11R6/bin/xf86configure. -- Peter er den mindst gamle af de gammeldags usenettere, og moderator på den eneste modererede gruppe i dk.*, so there. - citat RockBear
Re: xwindows wanted
On Sat, May 08, 1999 at 07:05:43AM -0500, André Bell wrote: Is xwindows already installed on my system when I installed debian 2.1? I can't seem to find it by cd / and then reading the subdirectories from there. If it's not there, where can I download it from? I've visited over 500 sites over the last week looking for it and I'll I can find are programs which require xwindows and people who are trying to sell me stuff -- I've obviously looked at the wrong 500 sites :( Can you help?!? login to your system and type XF86Setup, this will take you through the graphical X setup. After your done you can just type startx to run X. -- --- - - --- - - - --- Ben Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED]Debian GNU/Linux OpenLDAP Dev - [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Choice of the GNU Generation -- -- - - - --- --- -- - - --- - --
Re: 8 Newbie Questions
On 8 May 1999, Peter Makholm wrote: 3) Why does debian say 'only the root can do that' when I type the line below: $ mount /dev/fd0 (or any other floppy drive) I can't cd /dev/fd0 nor can I figure out how to access it. Because only root may mount devices as default. Edit you /etc/fstab and put auto as an option in the line mentioning /dev/fd0. Please read man fstab first. If you don't want to mount the drive for the entire session, you could also just try the following: su (enter password when prompted) mount /dev/fd0 /floppy (replace /floppy with whatever directory u want) exit Or you could enter just sudo mount /dev/fd0 /floppy if you use sudo. The drawback of this is that you must be root to write the floppy. No. Almost any software you ever need exist as debian packages on www.debian.org. If you really really really need something that aint packaged for debian please say so. Probally others needs it as well. U ... not true. I've come across a lot of software I'd like that isn't in .deb packages anywhere - or the packages are poorly maintained, like the KDE ones. Am I just not looking hard enough? - Bill
Re: bash functions
On Sat, 8 May 1999, [iso-8859-1] André Bell wrote: Ctrl-Z isn't really a pause feature, actually. What it does is suspend a process. You can use the more command in bash, too: cat filename | more(replace filename with file) man subject | more (replace subject with manual page) However, the less command is more powerful - it lets you move back and forth through the file, search it, etc: cat filename | less Type man less for more info. - Bill
Re: gimp: gif support?
Joel Gautschi wrote: I didn't found any gif support in gimp of slink. is that because of the licence of gif or what? Yup; that's exactly why. To provide the Gimp with gif support, you need to get and install the gimp-nonfree package from non-free. -- . . [EMAIL PROTECTED] | /-\ (-) /-\ Debian GNU/Linux
Re: Exim + Procmail + Mutt
~ Exim is kind of like a MTA+MDA in one; to a degree, it does what ~ smail+procmail does. I fear that the to a degree bit will be meaningful here. ~ That in mind, you can uninstall procmail, and have exim do all of your ~ mail sorting. (You'll need take your procmail recipies, convert them ~ to exim's language, and stick them in your ~/.forward.) Just a bit lost here... all I have to do is create an empty ~/.forward file, and rewrite my procmail recipes into it? is that all, or do I have to tell exim to look for (and where is) .forward? ~ For example, here is what I have in my ~/.forward to filter this ~ mailing lists' posts: ~ # Exim filter ~ # take care of mailing list debian-user ~ if ~$header_X-Mailing-List: contains debian-user@lists.debian.org ~ then ~save my_mail_directory/debian-user ~ finish ~ endif ~ # enf of debian-user filter ~ This works, although I think I liked smail+procmail better, ~ personally. shrug Agreed... well, sort of; may be exim works better than smail, and I'll probably be glad I changed the MTA, but somehow I feel uncomfortable with droping procmail as my MDA. Ummh, I think I'll try to get by with Exim for a while until I learn how to install and configure Qmail, which I think it interacts well with Procmail. Meanwhile, I used to have this in my ~/.procmailrc: PATH=$HOME/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/bin:. MAILDIR=~/Mail LOGDIR=/var/log DEFAULT=$MAILDIR/mbox LOGFILE=$LOGDIR/procmail.log LOCKFILE=$HOME/.lockmail which would make mail go to ~/Mail/ instead of /var/spool/mail/user, and then the tipical procmail recipes to process mail to the different mailboxes within ~/Mail/; and ~/Mail/mbox as the default mailbox where non rule processed mail would go to... I see this bit in /etc/exim.conf: local_delivery: driver = appendfile group = mail mode = 0660 mode_fail_narrower = false file = /var/spool/mail/${local_part} I hope changing it to: file = ~/Mail/mbox will work... not sure... I'll give it a try... NO! it didn't work: 1999-05-08 16:36:39 Exim configuration error for local_delivery transport: the file option must specify an absolute path Error al mandar mensaje, 1 (). Presione una tecla para continuar... (Error to send message, 1 () Press a key to continue...) Let's see with the full /home/horacio/Mail/mbox path Thanks Horacio
Re: 8 Newbie Questions
Peter Makholm wrote: There is no such thing as drive letters. Partitions are mounted around in the directory structure and you move around just like on any other directory. Either you mount it (on /floppy) or uses mcopy from the mtools package. Read some book about unix. I'm very sorry but you seem rather clueless on some fundemental stuff and then its hard to help. Yes, I'm clueless about linux basics. I'm three days into my installation of linux and have never seen it nor any unix operating system before now. I've been using pc's since they came out (70's onward). The funny thing is, I'm a pc tech support person working for a multi-billion fortune 200 company and I assumed that linux would work as many other computer systems work, i.e. with drive assignments. (Cocky Translation: 'If it's on a pc I can figure it out'. I've been humbled...) I know dos and windows and thousands of applications extremely well. I don't know linux other than what shows up when I type 'help' and what i've gleaned by perusing the linux newsgroups and linux web pages. Lots of stuff there that doesn't apply to navigating or altering kernels. Since I just installed linux a few days ago from my debian 2.1 cd there will be a slight learning curve during this week. One way or another I'll know linux well enough in less than a week that I can teach others how to install, navigate, and change the setup of their linux... I know computers I just don't know linux's command structure and syntax, yet. Once i start navigating I'm gonna take my linux apart kernel by kernel and see what makes it tick. Then I'll no longer be clueless. For now I can only associate what I know of other operating systems with linux. I've read a ton of sites, and none that I've come across so far are written well enough to go from install to expert. They waste a lot of words and tell very little about navigating about linux and very little about controlling linux kernels. They all assume that since I already installed linux I must know how to use linux. I think I just got lucky installing debian -- others say it's a challenging installation and it's running on my pc... sort of :) Like most pc instructions, the sites I've come across so far seem written for those who already know what to do with the information. One of my 'favorite' sites explained how to copy from a floppy. It 'said' copy some files from a floppy but didn't tell 'how'. They also said to copy mtools to your partitioned drive and then run mtools commands from there using drive assignments like a:, c:, etc. The assumption was that I already knew how to copy the files to the drive using Linux. Now if I knew that I wouldn't have searched for [+linux +how to copy files from a floppy] :) Anyhow, that's why I asked for help here (btw thanks for your detailed help. I figured I'd be lucky to get a reply to just one of my questions, you gave an answer to looks like each question I asked). Now I'm going to try to play with linux and see if I can get it to recognize my floppy and allow me to copy files to the system so I can run lots more stuff... Edit you /etc/fstab and put auto as an option in the line mentioning /dev/fd0. Please read man fstab first. I must have installed something incorrectly because 'man fstab' says: can't open the manpath configuration file /etc/manpath.config When I cd /etc and then type ls manpath.*, it shows manpath.config.dpkg-new I'm guessing this means the installation was interrupted or is this the same as manpath.config just with extra extensions? Thanks very much for your help!!! Andre' ... headed back to http://www.debian.org Read a book? Is that a text file or pdf?
Glibc 2.1 - more info/workarounds?
I am thinking about upgrading my Slink system to glibc 2.1. In fact I did it when I upgraded an app using apt-get and glibc was also updated - but I found I couldn't run Applix (I have since found a workaround) and my JAVA apps. It now appears that all the new unstable packages are being compiled with glibc 2.1 so since I often make use of unstable pacakges it seems this is the way I'll have to go. Is there a FAQ, or other Debian document, or web page or whatever which would be useful to me? I am particularly concerned that JAVA app won't run. Is there a workaround for these? Many thanks. -- Phillip Deackes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian Linux v.2.1
NEW Samba + Printer woes
Hi! I've finally installed samba + lprng on an ageing i386. I have two parallel ports, and a printer attached to each. I'm using debian hamm. This is /etc/printcap: # # Copyright (c) 1983 Regents of the University of California. # All rights reserved. # # Redistribution and use in source and binary forms are permitted # provided that this notice is preserved and that due credit is given # to the University of California at Berkeley. The name of the University # may not be used to endorse or promote products derived from this # software without specific prior written permission. This software # is provided ``as is'' without express or implied warranty. # # @(#)etc.printcap5.2 (Berkeley) 5/5/88 # # This file was generated by /usr/sbin/magicfilterconfig. # lp|hplj4l|HP Laserjet 4L:\ :sd=/var/spool/lpd/lj4:\ :rm=143.167.116.166:\ :rp=raw:\ :lp=/dev/null:\ :sh: :sh:pw#80:pl#72:px#1440:mx#0:\ :if=/etc/magicfilter/ljet4l-filter:\ :af=/var/log/lp-acct:lf=/var/log/lp-errs: Then, samba is set up so that anyone in our domain may print to this server, without needing passwords or stuff like that. /etc/smb.conf looks like this: [global] workgroup=radarcommunications server string=Radar Communications Printer Server hosts allow=143.167. 127. load printers=yes printcap name=/etc/printcap printing=bsd log file = /var/log/samba/log/%m max log size = 20 security=share socket options=TCP_NODELAY guest account=pcguest dns proxy=no [printers] comment=Printers at skint path=/var/spool/lpd/lp browseable=no guest ok = yes writable=no printable=yes [ljet] printer=ljet public=yes writable=no printable=yes path=/var/spool/lpd/ljet The other printer is not set up, as lprng does not want to print to it at all. cat filename /dev/lp2 works fine, though. I've checked the spool directories, and all have the right permissions. Curiously enough, if I use smbclient from another linux box, I can print without problems. However, things coming from Win95/WfWg boxes are sent to /var/spool/lpd/ljet, and stored there. It seems that lpd doesn't want to print them. A couple of days ago, with only one parallel port, everything worked fine. lptune says that both lp1 and lp2 use polling. I don't know what else to do. Any words of wisdom on that one? Cheers, Jose -- Jose L Gomez Dans PhD student Radar Communications Group Department of Electronic Engineering University of Sheffield UK
Re: debmake help
On 08-May-99 David Z. Maze wrote: roddie [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: roddie I'm experimenting with making my first .deb. roddie roddie The howto's tell me to run build. I can find build anywhere. I roddie have all the packages. debmake, dpk-dev, dh-make, debhelp but roddie I can't find it. 'build' changed its name in version 2.0.0 of the devscripts package to 'debuild'. Try installing the devscripts package, if you haven't already, and reading its README file. In potato there is a package called packaging-manual. More up to date in many ways. dh-* scripts are in favor now, the debmake/debstd is fading away.
[ERROR!] NEW Samba + Printer woes
In my previous message, I actually sent the wrong printcap. Sorry for the large overhead :-/// The printcap I am using is: # # Copyright (c) 1983 Regents of the University of California. # All rights reserved. # # Redistribution and use in source and binary forms are permitted # provided that this notice is preserved and that due credit is given # to the University of California at Berkeley. The name of the University # may not be used to endorse or promote products derived from this # software without specific prior written permission. This software # is provided ``as is'' without express or implied warranty. # # @(#)etc.printcap5.2 (Berkeley) 5/5/88 # # This file was generated by /usr/sbin/magicfilterconfig. # lp|ljet|ljet|HP Laserjet 4L:\ :lp=/dev/lp1:sd=/var/spool/lpd/ljet:\ :sh:pw#80:pl#72:px#1440:mx#0:\ :if=/etc/magicfilter/laserjet-filter:\ :af=/var/log/lp-acct:lf=/var/log/lp-errs: djet|djet|HP Deskjet 890C:\ :lp=/dev/lp2:sd=/var/spool/lpd/djet:\ :sh:pw#80:pl#72:px#1440:mx#0:\ :if=/etc/magicfilter/dj550c-filter:\ :af=/var/log/lp-acct:lf=/var/log/lp-errs: Again, sorry for the annoyance! Jose -- Jose L Gomez Dans PhD student Radar Communications Group Department of Electronic Engineering University of Sheffield UK
Re: Exim + Procmail + Mutt
Subject: Re: Exim + Procmail + Mutt Date: Sat, May 08, 1999 at 04:41:24PM +0200 In reply to:J Horacio M G Quoting J Horacio M G([EMAIL PROTECTED]): ~ Exim is kind of like a MTA+MDA in one; to a degree, it does what ~ smail+procmail does. I fear that the to a degree bit will be meaningful here. ~ That in mind, you can uninstall procmail, and have exim do all of your ~ mail sorting. (You'll need take your procmail recipies, convert them ~ to exim's language, and stick them in your ~/.forward.) Just a bit lost here... all I have to do is create an empty ~/.forward file, and rewrite my procmail recipes into it? is that all, or do I have to tell exim to look for (and where is) .forward? Not quite. The syntax for the .forward file in exim is not the same as the filters in procmail. Some think they are easier/better. Anyway, I would suggest you look into /usr/doc/exim/. There are doc files there that will assist you in setting up the forward file and exim.conf. We could tell you what/how to do it to make it work but you will learn a lot more by doing it yourself. I'm sure you would prefer that, wouldn't you? You will find that you don't 'have' to use exim as the MDA, you could make a .forward file that directs all the mail to your current .procmailrc. See what you can learn by looking at the docs! ~ For example, here is what I have in my ~/.forward to filter this ~ mailing lists' posts: ~ # Exim filter ~ # take care of mailing list debian-user ~ if ~$header_X-Mailing-List: contains debian-user@lists.debian.org ~ then ~save my_mail_directory/debian-user ~ finish ~ endif ~ # enf of debian-user filter ~ This works, although I think I liked smail+procmail better, ~ personally. shrug Agreed... well, sort of; may be exim works better than smail, and I'll probably be glad I changed the MTA, but somehow I feel uncomfortable with droping procmail as my MDA. Ummh, I think I'll try to get by with Exim for a while until I learn how to install and configure Qmail, which I think it interacts well with Procmail. Meanwhile, I used to have this in my ~/.procmailrc: PATH=$HOME/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/bin:. MAILDIR=~/Mail LOGDIR=/var/log DEFAULT=$MAILDIR/mbox LOGFILE=$LOGDIR/procmail.log LOCKFILE=$HOME/.lockmail which would make mail go to ~/Mail/ instead of /var/spool/mail/user, and then the tipical procmail recipes to process mail to the different mailboxes within ~/Mail/; and ~/Mail/mbox as the default mailbox where non rule processed mail would go to... I see this bit in /etc/exim.conf: local_delivery: driver = appendfile group = mail mode = 0660 mode_fail_narrower = false file = /var/spool/mail/${local_part} I hope changing it to: file = ~/Mail/mbox will work... not sure... I'll give it a try... NO! it didn't work: 1999-05-08 16:36:39 Exim configuration error for local_delivery transport: the file option must specify an absolute path Error al mandar mensaje, 1 (). Presione una tecla para continuar... (Error to send message, 1 () Press a key to continue...) Let's see with the full /home/horacio/Mail/mbox path Thanks Horacio -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- If you put garbage in a computer nothing comes out but garbage. But this garbage, having passed through a very expensive machine, is somehow enobled and none dare criticize it. ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 8 Newbie Questions
=?iso-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9?= Bell wrote: I just installed debian about three days ago and have several questions about navigating within debian and about accessing devices. If you can help me with one or more of these questions it would be greatly appreciated as I am growing a bit frustrated with not knowing what I am doing :) Some documentation you will probably find very helpful is the Debian Tutorial at http://www.debian.org/~hp/debian-tutorial.html. You should also install one of the doc-linux packages and read the HOWTOs. 1) How do I move from one partitioned drive to another? How do I know the drive letters to use too? The first (boot) device is /. Any other devices are mounted on directories under /, so that they all make a seamless whole. For example: /mnt is normally an empty directory. When you mount another device on it, it suddenly contains all the tree in the filesystem of that device. As a user, you don't need to know that it is on a different device. 2) How do I copy files from my floppy drive to my partitioned debian drive? That very much depends on how the floppy is formatted. I would guess that you have a W95 formatted floppy, so: # mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /floppy Now the directory tree on the floppy is under /floppy. If the mtools package is installed, you can instead say: # mdir a: # mcopy a:* ... and so on. 3) Why does debian say 'only the root can do that' when I type the line belo w: $ mount /dev/fd0 (or any other floppy drive) Remember that Linux is a multi-user system. Therefore disk-mounting is one of the operations reserved to the administrator, so that other users don't get the rug pulled out from under them without notice. I can't cd /dev/fd0 nor can I figure out how to access it. /dev/fd0 is a device node, not a directory - $ ls -l /dev/fd0 brw-rw 1 root floppy 2, 0 Oct 22 1998 /dev/fd0 b or c as the first letter says the entry is a device; directories have d there and ordinary files have -. You can treat a device as a file, but you had better not try to write to it! (you would destroy any data on the device) 4) How can i get a network connection or simulated network connection between my win95 pc debin pc via serial or via their modems? Windows allows direct connect with other windows pc, what can I use with debian? Look at the Serial HOWTO; you can probably connect the serial ports and start a telnet session from W95. You would have to have a getty running on your serial port (getty is a program that waits for someone to try to connect and sets up the session). 5) How determine hardware which is functioning properly and how determine which kernels need to be removed or changed? I know with windows I had device manager and msd.exe. What do I have with debian? /proc is a pseudo-filesystem that contains information about the running kernel. /proc/interrupts, /proc/ioports, /proc/pci and /proc/scsi are `files' that may prove useful. If your hardware is working, leave your kernel alone until you have learnt a bit more. 6) How change kernels once I know the above? I'd like to remove the devices that I installed to the kernels during inital installation of debian but don't actually have in my system yet. I also want to add a new serial card since I never set one up when I installed debian. The new serial card is now in the pc. I don't know how to do this after the fact. I type 'setserial' and a bunch of stuff scrolls by that doesn't make sense to me ye t. To understand what you are seeing, start with `man setserial', which should print an explanation of that command. 7) Why can't I access my floppy after booting from it? I have /floppy on my system. I can see it by cd / and then typing ls. When I cd to /floppy and then try to write to it I get 'permission denied'. I read from it without error messages, it appears to be an empty directory. I can't access either of my physical floppy drives attached to my system when I read from it with ls commands and /dev/fd(x). By default, you have read access only (except when you are logged in as root). To change that, you need to add your own user name to the floppy group by editing /etc/group (you must do that as root). In /etc/group you will see a line that says floppy:*:25: Add your username immediately after the last colon (no spaces): floppy:*:25:olly,dan extra usernames are separated by commas, as you can see. Log off and log in again; you should now have write access to the floppy drive. (But DON'T write directly to /dev/fd0!) 8) Do I have to regularly compile my own linux software? Aren't binaries available like with dos and windows? So much linux software on the net that I've seen isn't in binary format, it's rpm or plain source format. Is this standard for linux software? Can I use these with debian 2. 1? .rpm files contain compiled code, for Red Hat Linux. Debian
Re: 8 Newbie Questions
Yes, I'm clueless about linux basics. I'm three days into my installation of linux and have never seen it nor any unix operating system before now. I've been using pc's since they came out (70's onward). The funny thing is, I'm a pc tech support person working for a multi-billion fortune 200 company and I assumed that linux would work as many other computer systems work, i.e. with drive assignments. (Cocky Translation: 'If it's on a pc I can figure it out'. I've been humbled...) Don't freak out or give up. It's not so bad once you get used to it. I recommend picking up a guide to UNIX for DOS users (there are many of them out there; UNIX in Plain English is an example of one book which helps the DOS-to-UNIX transition.) Check out www.linux-howto.com as well. And buy O'Reilly's Linux in a Nutshell; you will find it to be very useful in time. (There's nothing in it that isn't in the manpages, but it's nice to have paper docs sometimes.) I know dos and windows and thousands of applications extremely well. I don't know linux other than what shows up when I type 'help' and what i've gleaned by perusing the linux newsgroups and linux web pages. Lots of stuff there that doesn't apply to navigating or altering kernels. You're familiar with the man command, I hope. If not, type man man in Linux. You will find man to be your best friend when you start out. And man -k keyword can be used to search the online manual for any keywords. For now I can only associate what I know of other operating systems with linux. I've read a ton of sites, and none that I've come across so far are written well enough to go from install to expert. They waste a lot of words and tell very little about navigating about linux and very little about controlling linux kernels. They all assume that since I already installed linux I must know how to use linux. I think I just got lucky installing debian -- others say it's a challenging installation and it's running on my pc... sort of :) Yes, Linux needs better documentation, and Debian is tougher to install than Red Hat or the other common distros. Pick up a good UNIX-to-DOS book, as mentioned, and it should get you started. - Bill
Re: Kernel 2.2.5 and make-kpkg
On Sat, May 08, 1999 at 12:31:48AM -0400, Jayson Baird wrote: After running make menuconfig, make dep, and make-kpkg clean , and then finally to build the kernel package: make-kpkg --rev test1 kernel_image You really meant to say make-kpkg --revision=test1 kernel_image ? Okay, I know I'll probably give a few people some laughs here..but my .deb package is no where to be found..I had about a 7 minute wait while the kernel compiled and poof, no .deb with the Kernel..any ideas? It should be in the directory above the one you compiled from (if /usr/src/linux, then look for the .deb in /usr/src). Bob -- Bob Nielsen Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tucson, AZ AMPRnet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] DM42nh http://www.primenet.com/~nielsen
Newer version of GNOME on slink?
Is there any way I can get a newer version of GNOME than the 1.0.3 in the slink staging area without upgrading to potato? Do the newer GNOME packages really use glibc2.1? And if so, is there any chance that it will ever be in a deb? Also, is there any way I can reduce the amount of memory used by GNOME? - thanks, Bill
Changing ownership for mounted fat partitions
Hi all: I would like to change ownership of all partitions, mounted under /mnt to group local. I am as a user member of local. For instance, I have a fat32 partition mounted under /mnt/fat32. # chown root.local /mnt OK # chown root.local /mnt/fat32 chown: /mnt/fat32: Operation not permitted If I unmount the partition, then I can change ownership for /mnt/fat32, but when I mount the partition again, ownership changes to root.root again. :( The main problem for me is that I haven't got a write permission in my fatXX partitions as a regular user. Any input highly appreciated!!! -- Arcady Genkin
Re: xwindows wanted
It probally is. (I don't remember what a standard installation looks like.) Try looking at /usr/X11R6/ Before using Xwindow you need to configure it. You could do this with /usr/X11R6/XF86Setup or /usr/X11R6/bin/xf86configure. Thanks again Peter. Yes, I have /usr/X11R6 but the only subdirectores inside of it are bin include lib man None of them have a setup or xf86configure executable file :( There is a setup.tcl buried deep into /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/dotfile/Generator but that is it as far as setup files go. Andre'
Re: 8 Newbie Questions
If you really really really need something that aint packaged for debian please say so. Probally others needs it as well. U ... not true. I've come across a lot of software I'd like that isn't in .deb packages anywhere - or the packages are poorly maintained, like the KDE ones. Am I just not looking hard enough? Thanks Bill for the perspective. Since I don't know much about RPM's and the like that after the last comment I thought maybe I'm gonna be stuck with the ability only to use apps found at www.debian.org I'm glad that's not the case because that would defeat the purpose of opensource software. Maybe he meant that the files found to be most reliable and require least compiling with debian are found at debian.org Thanks again. Andre'
Re: xwindows wanted
login to your system and type XF86Setup, this will take you through the graphical X setup. After your done you can just type startx to run X. I type XF86Setup and it says bash: XF86Setup: command not found :( Maybe I need to reinstall debian ??? I'm getting a lot of 'bash: command: command not found' messages even for stuff that IS in the subdirectories. Maybe they need to be in /usr to be found??? Andre
Re: bash functions
William R Pentney wrote: However, the less command is more powerful - it lets you move back and forth through the file, search it, etc: Type man less for more info. I must have installed something incorrectly because 'man less' says: can't open the manpath configuration file /etc/manpath.config When I 'cd /etc' and then type ls manpath.*, it shows manpath.config.dpkg-new I'm guessing this means the installation was interrupted or is this the same as manpath.config just with extra extensions but am not sure(?). Also, less isn't in my system. I type less and get: bash: less: command not found Andre'
Re: Changing ownership for mounted fat partitions
Take a look at the uid= and gid= options of mount. You can use them in /etc/fstab as part of your options for these mounts. For example, if group local's gid is 105, you could have a line something like /dev/hdc1 /mnt/fat32 vfat uid=0,gid=105,umask=0770 0 0 This would set user to root, group to local and permissions to rwxrwx for user and group (if I recall umask correctly). On 8 May 1999, Arcady Genkin wrote: Hi all: I would like to change ownership of all partitions, mounted under /mnt to group local. I am as a user member of local. For instance, I have a fat32 partition mounted under /mnt/fat32. # chown root.local /mnt OK # chown root.local /mnt/fat32 chown: /mnt/fat32: Operation not permitted If I unmount the partition, then I can change ownership for /mnt/fat32, but when I mount the partition again, ownership changes to root.root again. :( The main problem for me is that I haven't got a write permission in my fatXX partitions as a regular user. Any input highly appreciated!!! -- Arcady Genkin -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: 8 Newbie Questions
Yes, I'm clueless about linux basics. I'm three days into my installation of linux and have never seen it nor any unix operating system before now. I've been using pc's since they came out (70's onward). The funny thing is, I'm a pc tech support person working for a multi-billion fortune 200 company and I assumed that linux would work as many other computer systems work, i.e. with drive assignments. (Cocky Translation: 'If it's on a pc I can figure it out'. I've been humbled...) You gotta start somewhere, I suppose. I know dos and windows and thousands of applications extremely well. I don't know linux other than what shows up when I type 'help' and what i've gleaned by perusing the linux newsgroups and linux web pages. Lots of stuff there that doesn't apply to navigating or altering kernels. Ok. If you really want to take a try at compiling your kernel, now that you are only 3 days into installsure. Here is how you do it: Note that you have to be root for everything down here: 1. Install kernel-source package (you might need to install as86 package). 2. It is usually put in directory like /usr/src/kernel-? (Not sure hwo it is in slink, but it's that way in hamm). 3. Go into the directory and type: 'make menuconfig' for shell config menu, or 'make xconfig' for GUI config tool. 4. I prefer GUI one, just because it's easier to use it. So then you see what your kernel currently has. But I think you havent installed X yet. Correction: you talk about kernels, as in plural..there is only one kernel working at any time. 5. Once you have configured it, you can start compilation by doing these: make dep make clean (you can omit this) make zImage or make bzImage. The first one is uncompressed kernel. Reason why you want a compressed kernel, is because programs like LILO (LInux LOader) have limit on kernel size. I think it's around 750K. So if you use a lot of options, use bzImage. 6. Once it compiled, mv to dir /arch/i386 and get the kernel from there. Put it into boot, fix the symlink if necesary, and reboot. If you are running LILO, you need to rerun it before rebooting. Btw.doesnt your computer have a modem? Since I just installed linux a few days ago from my debian 2.1 cd there will be a slight learning curve during this week. One way or another I'll know linux well enough in less than a week that I can teach others how to install, navigate, and change the setup of their linux... I know computers I just don't know linux's command structure and syntax, yet. Once i start navigating I'm gonna take my linux apart kernel by kernel and see what makes it tick. Then I'll no longer be clueless. One week, uh? Good luck. ANyway.get a book on Unix/Linux and read it through. Before you get really good with Linux, I suspect you might need to learn some bash scripting, or whatever shell you useit just makes your life easier. Andrew --- Andrew Ivanov [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN 12402354 http://members.tripod.com/AnSIv --Little things for Linux.
Re: xwindows wanted
login to your system and type XF86Setup, this will take you through the graphical X setup. After your done you can just type startx to run X. I type XF86Setup and it says bash: XF86Setup: command not found :( Maybe I need to reinstall debian ??? Errr, WinNT approach doesnt work here. Try xf86config command. I'm getting a lot of 'bash: command: command not found' messages even for stuff that IS in the subdirectories. Maybe they need to be in /usr to be found??? Ok, what commands are you trying to execute? Andrew --- Andrei S. Ivanov [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN 12402354 http://members.tripod.com/AnSIv --Little things for Linux.
Re: xwindows wanted
On Sat, May 08, 1999 at 12:36:08PM -0500, Andrei Ivanov wrote: login to your system and type XF86Setup, this will take you through the graphical X setup. After your done you can just type startx to run X. I type XF86Setup and it says bash: XF86Setup: command not found :( Maybe I need to reinstall debian ??? Errr, WinNT approach doesnt work here. Try xf86config command. xf86setup package contains the XF86Setup program...or you can use the xf86config text based setup program. I'm getting a lot of 'bash: command: command not found' messages even for stuff that IS in the subdirectories. Maybe they need to be in /usr to be found??? Ok, what commands are you trying to execute? If you are in the /usr/X11R6/bin directory proceed the commands with ./ (like ./XF86Setup ) Otherwise you need to add /usr/X11R6/bin to your path with: PATH=${PATH}:/usr/X11R6/bin export PATH -- --- - - --- - - - --- Ben Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED]Debian GNU/Linux OpenLDAP Dev - [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Choice of the GNU Generation -- -- - - - --- --- -- - - --- - --
update-menus, does it work?
I am having a few problems with the update-menus program. I wonder if anyone else is also. 1. I removed 2 applications, xfreecd and wmcdplay, using apt-get remove and then installed tcd and xcdplay. Altho apt-get ran update-menus the two removed programs are still in the 'USERS' menu's. They have been removed from the roots menu's tho.(?) Re-runninf update-menus has not helped the problem. 2. I guess the maintainer of tcd didn't put the required menus for the X version of tcd, gtcd, in his package so I am trying to add it. I have read the /usr/doc/menu/html/index.html, and the README's in /etc/menu, /etc/menu-methods, and /usr/lib/menu, but still can't get it working. I have added the following to ~/.menu and /etc/menu ?package(gtcd):needs=x11 icon=none section=Apps/Sound \ title=Gtcd command=/usr/X11R6/bin/gtcd but it still doesn't show up in the menu of any user after I run update-menus. Yet 2 removed apps are still showing up in the Users menu. The /usr/lib/menu/default/README says to put new entries into /etc/menu but the /etc/menu/README says that entries in this dir override the menu files provided by Debian in /usr/lib/menu and /usr/lib/menu/default. New entries are not the same as overriding current entries, or are they? The html doc says to add user menus in ~/.menu. The html doc suggests doing echo -n ~/.menu/Xfreecd to remove the menu entry from the system menu in /etc/menu. Funny, I thought the system menu was /usr/lib/menu? I'm really confused now. Well anyway that doesn't work either, maybe because xfreecd and wmcdplay are not in ANY menu file at all! I hope that I'm the only one having a problem with this. Maybe it's because I'm not running KDE. They seem to like this! I long for the old way of changing .fvwmrc to whatever I want it to be. It made a lot more sense to me then this does. Oh, I have tried closing X down and also restarted the WM. That didn't help. As I am running Linux I will not reboot to try the Microsloth method. Comments, flames, tips and/or pointers appreciated. TIA Wayne -- Goto, n.: A programming tool that exists to allow structured programmers to complain about unstructured programmers -- Ray Simard ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
filters package
Hi there, I'd like to know what happened to the filters package that was in hamm but is not in slink. It contains some funny text filters like jive. Please Cc: me as I'm not on the list. Fabio ( Fábio Olivé Leite[EMAIL PROTECTED] ) ( NEW -*- http://descartes.ucpel.tche.br/~olive -*- NEW ) ( Linux - Distributed Systems - Fault Tolerance - Security - /etc ) (BC 50 7F 7A B9 2E 0A 26 91 8A D1 C0 B1 E4 DA A4)
Re: Changing ownership for mounted fat partitions
*- On 8 May, Alec Smith wrote about Re: Changing ownership for mounted fat partitions Take a look at the uid= and gid= options of mount. You can use them in /etc/fstab as part of your options for these mounts. For example, if group local's gid is 105, you could have a line something like /dev/hdc1 /mnt/fat32 vfat uid=0,gid=105,umask=0770 0 0 This would set user to root, group to local and permissions to rwxrwx for user and group (if I recall umask correctly). I would also had the quiet option to the above. Fat* partitions do not really allow ownership flags on the files. If a regular user of group local modifies files it tries to change the ownership flags around and you will get the 'Operation not permitted' errors. Setting the quiet flag will suppress these error messages. Some programs may still bail out though so you need be aware. Brian On 8 May 1999, Arcady Genkin wrote: Hi all: I would like to change ownership of all partitions, mounted under /mnt to group local. I am as a user member of local. For instance, I have a fat32 partition mounted under /mnt/fat32. # chown root.local /mnt OK # chown root.local /mnt/fat32 chown: /mnt/fat32: Operation not permitted If I unmount the partition, then I can change ownership for /mnt/fat32, but when I mount the partition again, ownership changes to root.root again. :( The main problem for me is that I haven't got a write permission in my fatXX partitions as a regular user. Any input highly appreciated!!! -- Arcady Genkin
wmmail
I always get the error message 'no mailbox specified' when i try to start wmmail I checked the .wmmailrc but it isn't saying anything about mailbox ... Can anyone help me?
Re: Kernel 2.2.5 and make-kpkg
On Sat, 08 May, 1999 à 12:31:48AM -0400, Jayson Baird wrote: After running make menuconfig, make dep, and make-kpkg clean , and then make menuconfig ; make-kpkg --rev test1 kernel_image is enough, all the gory details are handled by make-kpkg finally to build the kernel package: make-kpkg --rev test1 kernel_image Okay, I know I'll probably give a few people some laughs here..but my .deb I promise you that I've not laughed, I've just smiled :-) package is no where to be found..I had about a 7 minute wait while the kernel compiled and poof, no .deb with the Kernel..any ideas? Unless compilation gives errors, cd .. ; ls *.deb will show you the expected package... -- ( - Laurent PICOULEAU - ) /~\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] /~\ | \)Linux : mettez un pingouin dans votre ordinateur !(/ | \_|_Seuls ceux qui ne l'utilisent pas en disent du mal. _|_/
Re: deb vs. rpm
Thorsten Manegold wrote: It is done on a per package basis. So in that respect it's like rpm. No? 'apt-get install exim' will install all libraries that it depends on and Doesn't rpm do that too? uninstall all mta's that it conflicts with. With or without asking? The .deb format is not just a package format it is a database of information about packages, namely version, dependencies, conflicts and As far as I know that is the case with rpm too, isn't it? recommends. That is not a feature of rpm as far as I know. Thus when you upgrade your system, dpkg/apt downloads all software selected and dependencies, then sets them up, if there is a conflict it uninstalls what is conflicting, then after everthing is installed and configure correctly, it deletes the downloaded packages so that your system is not loaded down with .deb files. There is nothing like it in existence, it is the superior package format. Forget about popularity for a moment and think about raw technical superiority. That is the debian format. You will love it when you try it. I heard that it's supposed to be supperior. As a matter of fact that is the main reason for me to try Debian (I started out with SuSE and am still using it. However I don't like the way they package things as it's not compatible to rpm's that I find on the net since they just to add my .02 euros :- debian has loads more packages in its distribution that redhat do in theirs, so (hopefully) you shuldn't need to mess about with (untrustworthy) .rpms from the 'net. frankie -- Confession is good for the soul only in the sense that a tweed coat is good for dandruff. --Peter de Vries http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk - Drum'n'Bass music, samples and links. ICQ://25576761begin:vcard n:;Frankie x-mozilla-html:TRUE url:http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk adr:;;;Birmingham;;;UK version:2.1 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Mr x-mozilla-cpt:;-8160 fn:Frankie end:vcard
Re: Linux hangs when net too used
Conrado Badenas wrote: Hi all! I've been having problems with Linux the last months, but now I have isolated the problem: Linux hangs. 1) I thought it was the kernel but it hangs with 2.0.34, 2.0.35 and 2.2.1 2) Then I thought it was the memory but memtest (package sysutils) says it is OK. 3) Then I thought I was being attacked with a DNS, but I read about them and kernel 2.2.1 should stop teardrop, winnuke, etc. 2 points: 1) DNS = Domain Name Something-or-Other, DoS = Denial of Service 2) There are loads of possible ways that your system could go down due to a DoS attack - winnuke, teardrop et al. are just the very publicised methods. Variations on these and new methods will be discovered/invented on a regular basis. 4) Then somebody told me that maybe only X hanged and I could access my machine from outside: I checked that I couldn't telnet/ftp/http my machine from outside 5) Now, one of my users connected from outside via ftp and began uploading a file of more than 3 Mb. He tried it three times, and my machine hanged three times (one hang, one boot, one hang, one boot, one hang, one boot, I denied access to this user, no hangs) WHAT IS HAPPENING? I love Linux but my friends laugh at me when I tell them that Linux hangs. You do not say what hardware you are using:- this sounds to me like a hardware problem. 2.0.36 is a widely used kernel. It has been around (or at least the latter 2.0.x series has) for a long time ( 1 year), so it should be pretty stable. It is unlikely that you have discovered a new kernel bug that no other linux users have noticed. As it happens when your user was ftping, this could be when there was extra network usage (although it could also be to do with memory, hard disk, motherboard ... Do you use an ethernet card or a modem or what? What manufacturer/model? You need to give some info. Are you compiling your own kernel or using the stock debian one? -- Conrado Badenas (Assistant Lecturer) Department of Thermodynamics. University of Valencia c/. Doctor Moliner, 50 | e-m: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 46100 Burjassot (Valencia) | Phn: +34 - 963 864 350 SPAIN| Fax: +34 - 963 983 385 -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Confession is good for the soul only in the sense that a tweed coat is good for dandruff. --Peter de Vries http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk - Drum'n'Bass music, samples and links. ICQ://25576761begin:vcard n:;Frankie x-mozilla-html:TRUE url:http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk adr:;;;Birmingham;;;UK version:2.1 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Mr x-mozilla-cpt:;-8160 fn:Frankie end:vcard
compiling debian sources question?
Hi, I recently bought the cheapbytes debian 2.1 CD's. Almost everything is OK. Unfortunately the computer I am using at the moment is a mingy P-60. I decided to recompile my x-server and libraries (with the 'pentium-builder' package installed) in order to eek a bit more speed out of X. However, when I have unpacked the x source and diff (revision 11), and do dbuild, after many hours, dbuild quits with errors. (the whole error log is something like 2.5 MB so I have extracted relevant bits :-) ) These are the errors: $ grep -n ] Error *.messages 19421:make[5]: *** [resource.o] Error 1 19754:make[5]: *** [xrdb.o] Error 1 19940:make[6]: *** [main.o] Error 1 19942:make[5]: *** [dix] Error 2 21692:make[4]: *** [resource.o] Error 1 22113:make[4]: *** [xrdb.o] Error 1 22205:make[5]: *** [main.o] Error 1 22207:make[4]: *** [dix] Error 2 25271:make: *** [binary-arch] Error 1 $ gcc -c -O2 -fno-strength-reduce -ansi -pedantic-I../.. -I../../exports/inclu de -Dlinux -D__i386__ -D_POSIX_C_SOURCE=199309L -D_POSIX_SOURCE -D_XOPEN_SOURCE =500L -D_BSD_SOURCE -D_SVID_SOURCE -D_REENTRANT -DFUNCPROTO=15 -DNARROWPROTO -DBINDIR=\/usr/X11R6/bin\ -DXDMDIR=\/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm\ -DUSESHADOW -DUNIXCONN -DTCPCONN -DGREET_USER_STATIC -DFRAGILE_DEV_MEM -DOSMAJORVERSION=2 -DOSMINORVERSION=2'-DDEF_SERVER_LINE=:0 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X :0' '-DXRDB_PROGRAM=/usr/X11R6/bin/xrdb' '-DDEF _SESSION=/usr/X11R6/bin/xterm -ls' '-DDEF_USER_PATH=:/bin:/usr/b in:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/ucb' '-DDEF_SYSTEM_PATH=/etc:/bin:/usr/bin :/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/ucb' '-DDEF_SYSTEM_SHELL=/bin/sh' '-DDEF_FAILSAFE_CLIENT=/usr/X11R6/bin/xterm' '-DDEF _XDM_CONFIG=/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/xdm-config' '-DDEF_CHOOSER =/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/chooser' '-DDEF_AUTH_DIR=/usr/X11R6/li b/X11/xdm' '-DDEF_GREETER_LIB=/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/libXdmGreet .so' resource.c gcc.real: local: No such file or directory gcc.real: :0: No such file or directory resource.c:0: unterminated string or character constant resource.c:0: possible real start of unterminated constant resource.c:0: unterminated string or character constant resource.c:0: possible real start of unterminated constant make[5]: *** [resource.o] Error 1 gcc -O2 -fno-strength-reduce -ansi -pedantic-I../.. -I../../exports/include -Dlinux -D__i386__ -D_POSIX_C_SOURCE=199309L -D_POSIX_SOURCE -D_XOPEN_SOURCE=50 0L -D_BSD_SOURCE -D_SVID_SOURCE -D_REENTRANT -DFUNCPROTO=15 -DNARROWPROTO -DC PP=\/lib/cpp -traditional -Dlinux -D__i386__ -D_POSIX_C_SOURCE=199309L -D_POSI X_SOURCE -D_XOPEN_SOURCE=500L -D_BSD_SOURCE -D_SVID_SOURCE -D_REENTRANT \ -DH AS_MKSTEMP -c xrdb.c -o xrdb.o gcc.real: : No such file or directory xrdb.c:0: unterminated string or character constant xrdb.c:0: possible real start of unterminated constant In file included from ../../exports/include/X11/Xos.h:149, from xrdb.c:47: /usr/include/unistd.h:208: macro or `#include' recursion too deep /usr/include/unistd.h:209: macro or `#include' recursion too deep /usr/include/unistd.h:212: macro or `#include' recursion too deep /usr/include/unistd.h:213: macro or `#include' recursion too deep In file included from ../../exports/include/X11/Xos.h:149, from xrdb.c:47: /usr/include/unistd.h:860: macro or `#include' recursion too deep xrdb.c:975: macro or `#include' recursion too deep xrdb.c:975: macro or `#include' recursion too deep xrdb.c:976: macro or `#include' recursion too deep xrdb.c:1279: macro or `#include' recursion too deep xrdb.c:1279: macro or `#include' recursion too deep xrdb.c:1351: macro or `#include' recursion too deep xrdb.c:1351: macro or `#include' recursion too deep make[5]: *** [xrdb.o] Error 1 gcc -c -O2 -fno-strength-reduce -ansi -pedantic -I../include -I../../../exports /include/X11 -I../../../include/fonts -I../../../include/extensions -I../../.. -I../../../exports/include -Dlinux -D__i386__ -D_POSIX_C_SOURCE=199309L -D_POSI X_SOURCE -D_XOPEN_SOURCE=500L -D_BSD_SOURCE -D_SVID_SOURCE -D_REENTRANT -DSHAPE -DXINPUT -DXKB -DLBX -DXAPPGROUP -DXCSECURITY -DDPMSExtension -DPIXPRIV -DGCCU SESGAS -DSTATIC_COLOR -DAVOID_GLYPHBLT -DPIXPRIV -DXFreeXDGA -DNDEBUG -DFUNCP ROTO=15 -DNARROWPROTO -DVENDOR_STRING=\The XFree86 Project, Inc\ -DVENDOR_ RELEASE=3320 main.c gcc.real: XFree86: No such file or directory gcc.real: Project,: No such file or directory gcc.real: Inc: No such file or directory main.c:0: unterminated string or character constant main.c:0: possible real start of unterminated constant make[6]: *** [main.o] Error 1 make[6]: Leaving directory `/mnt/x/TEMP/xfree86-3.3.2.3a/programs/Xserver/dix' make[5]: *** [dix] Error 2 Then these errors are repeated again (with one lower make[x]), and then: dpkg-deb: building package `twm'
Re: NEW Samba + Printer woes
Subject: NEW Samba + Printer woes Date: Sat, May 08, 1999 at 05:13:32PM + In reply to:Jose L Gomez Dans Quoting Jose L Gomez Dans([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Hi! I've finally installed samba + lprng on an ageing i386. I have two parallel ports, and a printer attached to each. I'm using debian hamm. This is /etc/printcap: # # Copyright (c) 1983 Regents of the University of California. # All rights reserved. # # Redistribution and use in source and binary forms are permitted # provided that this notice is preserved and that due credit is given # to the University of California at Berkeley. The name of the University # may not be used to endorse or promote products derived from this # software without specific prior written permission. This software # is provided ``as is'' without express or implied warranty. # # @(#)etc.printcap5.2 (Berkeley) 5/5/88 # # This file was generated by /usr/sbin/magicfilterconfig. # lp|hplj4l|HP Laserjet 4L:\ :sd=/var/spool/lpd/lj4:\ :rm=143.167.116.166:\ :rp=raw:\ :lp=/dev/null:\ ?? :sh: :sh:pw#80:pl#72:px#1440:mx#0:\ :if=/etc/magicfilter/ljet4l-filter:\ :af=/var/log/lp-acct:lf=/var/log/lp-errs: Just a thought, there is no printer assigned in the above printcap, you have lp=/dev/null?? And this works using smbclient? Am I missing something here?? lp|lj|lp|Brother HL-10V:\ :lp=/dev/lp0:sd=/var/spool/lpd/lp:\ :sh:pw#80:pl#60:px#1440:mx#0:\ :if=/etc/magicfilter/ljet2p-filter:\ :af=/var/log/lp-acct:lf=/var/log/lp-errs: Note the :lp=/dev/lp0 if for 2.2.x kernels. If you are using 2.0.x it would be :lp=/dev/lp1 HTH Then, samba is set up so that anyone in our domain may print to this server, without needing passwords or stuff like that. /etc/smb.conf looks like this: [global] workgroup=radarcommunications server string=Radar Communications Printer Server hosts allow=143.167. 127. load printers=yes printcap name=/etc/printcap printing=bsd log file = /var/log/samba/log/%m max log size = 20 security=share socket options=TCP_NODELAY guest account=pcguest dns proxy=no [printers] comment=Printers at skint path=/var/spool/lpd/lp browseable=no guest ok = yes writable=no printable=yes [ljet] printer=ljet public=yes writable=no printable=yes path=/var/spool/lpd/ljet The other printer is not set up, as lprng does not want to print to it at all. cat filename /dev/lp2 works fine, though. I've checked the spool directories, and all have the right permissions. Curiously enough, if I use smbclient from another linux box, I can print without problems. However, things coming from Win95/WfWg boxes are sent to /var/spool/lpd/ljet, and stored there. It seems that lpd doesn't want to print them. A couple of days ago, with only one parallel port, everything worked fine. lptune says that both lp1 and lp2 use polling. I don't know what else to do. Any words of wisdom on that one? Cheers, Jose -- Jose L Gomez Dans PhD student Radar Communications Group Department of Electronic Engineering University of Sheffield UK -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- A language that doesn't affect the way you think about programming is not worth knowing. ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 8 Newbie Questions
Subject: Re: 8 Newbie Questions Date: Sat, May 08, 1999 at 09:04:27AM -0500 In reply to:André Bell Quoting André Bell([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Peter Makholm wrote: There is no such thing as drive letters. Partitions are mounted around in the directory structure and you move around just like on any other directory. Either you mount it (on /floppy) or uses mcopy from the mtools package. Read some book about unix. I'm very sorry but you seem rather clueless on some fundemental stuff and then its hard to help. Yes, I'm clueless about linux basics. I'm three days into my installation of linux and have never seen it nor any unix operating system before now. I've been using pc's since they came out (70's onward). The funny thing is, Ahh, so you might rember CP/M ? I'm a pc tech support person working for a multi-billion fortune 200 company and I assumed that linux would work as many other computer systems work, i.e. with drive assignments. (Cocky Translation: 'If it's on a pc I can figure it out'. I've been humbled...) [snip ] Edit you /etc/fstab and put auto as an option in the line mentioning /dev/fd0. Please read man fstab first. I must have installed something incorrectly because 'man fstab' says: can't open the manpath configuration file /etc/manpath.config The basis install doesn't include some rather necessary packages. Get the man-db and manpages packages. Those will take care of the basics. If you are going into this deeper also load the manpages-dev package. do ls /usr/doc/HOWTO/*(thats like C:dir \windows\startup ) You will file a lot of files that that have a lot of what you are/will be looking for. When I cd /etc and then type ls manpath.*, it shows manpath.config.dpkg-new I'm guessing this means the installation was interrupted or is this the same as manpath.config just with extra extensions? try less /etc/manpath.config( like more c:\windows\help ) Thanks very much for your help!!! Andre' ... headed back to http://www.debian.org Read a book? Is that a text file or pdf? uhh, yes :-) HTH -- In a five year period we can get one superb programming language. Only we can't control when the five year period will begin. ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
rvplayer still does not work
Hi, I just tried to use the rvplayer installer deb package to install rvplayer. I thought it will fix the problem of rvplayer in 2.2.* kernel. But it still does not work. It opened up alright, but does not play at all. and the play button is somehow not displayed. I am running 2.2.6. Shao. -- Shao Zhang - Running Debian 2.1 ___ _ _ Department of Communications/ __| |_ __ _ ___ |_ / |_ __ _ _ _ __ _ University of New South Wales \__ \ ' \/ _` / _ \ / /| ' \/ _` | ' \/ _` | Sydney, Australia |___/_||_\__,_\___/ /___|_||_\__,_|_||_\__, | Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |___/ _