Presentació

2013-03-01 Thread serotoninaeh
Hola! M'agradaria presentar-me a la llista i preguntar si hi ha algú que tingui ganes de buscar espais a Barcelona on juntar-nos i aprendre o ajudar a persones interessades en instal·lar debian etc... Crec que es interessant i fa temps que tinc curiositat per aprendre mes per arribar a

Presentació

2013-03-01 Thread serotoninaeh
Hola! M'agradaria presentar-me a la llista i preguntar si hi ha algú que tingui ganes de buscar espais a Barcelona on juntar-nos i aprendre o ajudar a persones interessades en instal·lar debian etc... Crec que es interessant i fa temps que tinc curiositat per aprendre mes per arribar a

Re: Presentació

2013-03-01 Thread Robert Marsellés
Hola, Primer de tot benvinguda al club. Sempre va bé la il·lusió fresca. Facilita l'intercanvi, la renovació, remou consciències, Suposo que la gent de BCN i voltants et podrà ajudar en la teva petició. Els pocs que he tingut l'oportunitat de conèixer personalment són persones a les que

Re: apt-get update et apt-get upgrade

2013-03-01 Thread Sébastien NOBILI
Bonjour, Le jeudi 28 février 2013 à 23:59, zul...@free.fr a écrit : Euh, apt-get dist-upgrade est à utiliser avec beaucoup de précaution. Il upgrade tous les paquets et tente d'installer quelques autres qu'il estime complémentaires. Donc les risques sont : Pbs de dépendances, paquets

Re: apt-get update et apt-get upgrade

2013-03-01 Thread Bzzz
On Fri, 1 Mar 2013 10:05:09 +0100 Sébastien NOBILI sebnewslet...@free.fr wrote: Je « dist-upgrade » systématiquement¹ (en stable) et je n'ai jamais eu aucun problème. Ceci étant dit : - pour testing / sid, ça peut être plus complexe, Je ne vois pas l'intérêt puisque dist-upgrade est fait

Re: apt-get update et apt-get upgrade

2013-03-01 Thread Sébastien NOBILI
Le vendredi 01 mars 2013 à 10:15, Bzzz a écrit : Je ne vois pas l'intérêt puisque dist-upgrade est fait pour sauter d'une branche à une autre (par ex. quand wheezy va devenir stable). En effet, sur une branche stable, l'intérêt est très limité puisqu'il n'arrive (presque ?) jamais qu'une

Re: apt-get update et apt-get upgrade

2013-03-01 Thread Bzzz
On Fri, 1 Mar 2013 11:04:05 +0100 Sébastien NOBILI sebnewslet...@free.fr wrote: Le paragraphe précédent est remis en question lorsqu'on utilise des dépôts non-officiels (le mien à moi, par exemple) dans lequel le mainteneur (moi, dans l'exemple) s'accorde certaines libertés avec le coté

Re: apt-get update et apt-get upgrade

2013-03-01 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2013-03-01 10:05:09 +0100, Sébastien NOBILI wrote: Je « dist-upgrade » systématiquement¹ (en stable) et je n'ai jamais eu aucun problème. Moi, je dist-upgrade systématiquement en unstable, mais je fais attention à ce qui est installé et désinstallé. Cependant j'ai plutôt tendance à utiliser

Re: apt-get update et apt-get upgrade

2013-03-01 Thread andre_debian
Selon la man page d'apt-get: update: La commande update permet de resynchroniser un fichier d'index répertoriant les paquets disponibles et sa source ... upgrade: La commande upgrade permet d'installer les versions les plus récentes de tous les paquets présents sur le système ...

Re: apt-get update et apt-get upgrade

2013-03-01 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2013-03-01 14:34:42 +0100, andre_deb...@numericable.fr wrote: Cependant j'ai plutôt tendance à utiliser aptitude maintenant : Quelle différence entre apt-get et aptitude ? aptitude a sa propre interface texte (optionnelle, mais c'est toujours ce que j'utilise). C'est donc plus facile de

Re: apt-get update et apt-get upgrade

2013-03-01 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2013-03-01 14:57:31 +0100, Vincent Lefevre wrote: On 2013-03-01 14:34:42 +0100, andre_deb...@numericable.fr wrote: Cependant j'ai plutôt tendance à utiliser aptitude maintenant : Quelle différence entre apt-get et aptitude ? aptitude a sa propre interface texte (optionnelle, mais c'est

Re: apt-get update et apt-get upgrade

2013-03-01 Thread Sébastien NOBILI
Le vendredi 01 mars 2013 à 14:34, andre_deb...@numericable.fr a écrit : Lors du passage à Wheezy (stable) (vers le 15 Avril je pense), les 3 commandes à taper sont : apt-get update apt-get upgrade apt-get dist-upgrade après avoir modifié /etc/apt/sources.list. Ça c'est la théorie, dans la

Re: apt-get update et apt-get upgrade

2013-03-01 Thread andre_debian
On Friday 01 March 2013 15:02:10 Sébastien NOBILI wrote: Le vendredi 01 mars 2013 à 14:34, andre_deb...@numericable.fr a écrit : Lors du passage à Wheezy (stable) (vers le 15 Avril je pense), les 3 commandes à taper sont : apt-get update apt-get upgrade apt-get dist-upgrade après

Re: apt-get update et apt-get upgrade

2013-03-01 Thread Stephane Ascoet
Le 01/03/2013 14:59, Vincent Lefevre a écrit : Aussi, j'ajouterais que la résolution des conflits par aptitude est parfois étrange, et il lui arrive de vouloir supprimer beaucoup de paquets. Souvent apt-get s'en sort mieux, donc je repasse à apt-get (install avec des paquets particuliers, ou

Re: apt-get update et apt-get upgrade

2013-03-01 Thread Bzzz
On Fri, 01 Mar 2013 15:16:09 +0100 Stephane Ascoet stephane.asc...@ac-orleans-tours.fr wrote: Il semblerait que l'avenir soit dans http://www.dicosmo.org/MyOpinions/index.php/2012/12/11/130-another-successful-install-thanks-to-mancoosi, ??? c'est un gus qui n'arrive par à installer un package

Re: apt-get update et apt-get upgrade

2013-03-01 Thread Stephane Ascoet
Le 01/03/2013 15:42, Bzzz a écrit : ??? c'est un gus qui n'arrive par à installer un package en experimental, c'est tout Mouais enfin le gus en question est Roberto Di Cosmo, un peu de respect pour ce pilier du monde de l'informatique libre me semble souhaitable. Et ce projet, soutenu par des

Re: apt-get update et apt-get upgrade

2013-03-01 Thread Bzzz
On Fri, 01 Mar 2013 16:05:34 +0100 Stephane Ascoet stephane.asc...@ac-orleans-tours.fr wrote: Mouais enfin le gus en question est Roberto Di Cosmo, un peu de respect pour ce pilier du monde de l'informatique libre me semble souhaitable. Tu me parles de respect, pour un type dont je n'ai

Re: apt-get update et apt-get upgrade

2013-03-01 Thread andre_debian
On Friday 01 March 2013 15:16:09 Stephane Ascoet wrote: Le 01/03/2013 14:59, Vincent Lefevre a écrit : Aussi, j'ajouterais que la résolution des conflits par aptitude est parfois étrange, et il lui arrive de vouloir supprimer beaucoup de paquets. Souvent apt-get s'en sort mieux, donc je

Re: apt-get update et apt-get upgrade

2013-03-01 Thread Sylvain L. Sauvage
Le vendredi 1 mars 2013 à 14:59:43, Vincent Lefevre a écrit : […] Aussi, j'ajouterais que la résolution des conflits par aptitude est parfois étrange, et il lui arrive de vouloir supprimer beaucoup de paquets. Souvent apt-get s'en sort mieux, donc je repasse à apt-get (install avec des paquets

Re: apt-get update et apt-get upgrade

2013-03-01 Thread Txo
En ce vendredi 01 mars 2013 à 16 h 20 Bzzz nous susurrait : Tu me parles de respect, pour un type dont je n'ai jamais ni lu le nom ni quoi que ce soit d'autre; C'est bien ce qu'on se disait... -- -+- Dominique Marin http://txodom.free.fr -+- « Si tu ne

Re: apt-get update et apt-get upgrade

2013-03-01 Thread Stephane Ascoet
Le 01/03/2013 16:28, andre_deb...@numericable.fr a écrit : Mancoosi : un projet européen dédié aux mises à jour de logiciels libres www.zdnet.fr/actualites/mancoosi-un-projet-europeen-dedie-aux-mises-a-jour-de-logiciels-libres-39383031.htm Ca fait bizarre de voir un article aussi vieux, avec

Re: apt-get update et apt-get upgrade

2013-03-01 Thread andre_debian
On Friday 01 March 2013 16:39:37 Stephane Ascoet wrote: Le 01/03/2013 16:28, andre_deb...@numericable.fr a écrit : Mancoosi : un projet européen dédié aux mises à jour de logiciels libres www.zdnet.fr/actualites/mancoosi-un-projet-europeen-dedie-aux-mises-a-jou

Nettoyage du spam: février 2013

2013-03-01 Thread Christian PERRIER
Comme nous sommes en mars 2013, il est désormais possible de traiter les archives du mois de février 2013 des listes francophones. Un petit effort pour relire encore 1 ou 2 fois les archives plus anciennes, sur debian-user-french, serait apprécié. Il nous manque au moins une personne ayant relu

vidéo France 5

2013-03-01 Thread Klaus Becker
'soir, sous unstable et avec Iceweasel 14.0.1, je n'arrive pas à lire par ex http://www.france5.fr/sante/le-magazine-de-la-sante/video?video=le-magazine-de-la-sante_1362055200 Je reçois un message d'erreur comme quoi il n'y a pas de solution d'affichage, ceci avec un encodage pourri que je

Re: vidéo France 5

2013-03-01 Thread David BERCOT
Hello, Sous Sid aussi, avec Moonlight, ça marche nickel... David. Le Fri, 1 Mar 2013 20:19:20 +0100, Klaus Becker colon...@free.fr a écrit : 'soir, sous unstable et avec Iceweasel 14.0.1, je n'arrive pas à lire par ex

Re: vidéo France 5

2013-03-01 Thread Klaus Becker
Le vendredi 1 mars 2013 20:22:24, David BERCOT a écrit : Le Fri, 1 Mar 2013 20:19:20 +0100, Klaus Becker colon...@free.fr a écrit : 'soir, sous unstable et avec Iceweasel 14.0.1, je n'arrive pas à lire par ex

Re: vidéo France 5

2013-03-01 Thread andre_debian
On Friday 01 March 2013 20:22:24 David BERCOT wrote: Sous Sid aussi, avec Moonlight, ça marche nickel... David. Klaus Becker colon...@free.fr a écrit : sous unstable et avec Iceweasel 14.0.1, je n'arrive pas à lire par ex

Re: vidéo France 5

2013-03-01 Thread David BERCOT
Le Fri, 1 Mar 2013 20:47:09 +0100, Klaus Becker colon...@free.fr a écrit : Le vendredi 1 mars 2013 20:22:24, David BERCOT a écrit : Le Fri, 1 Mar 2013 20:19:20 +0100, Klaus Becker colon...@free.fr a écrit : 'soir, sous unstable et avec Iceweasel 14.0.1, je n'arrive pas à lire par ex

Re: vidéo France 5

2013-03-01 Thread Klaus Becker
Le vendredi 1 mars 2013 20:43:34, andre_deb...@numericable.fr a écrit : On Friday 01 March 2013 20:22:24 David BERCOT wrote: Sous Sid aussi, avec Moonlight, ça marche nickel... David. Klaus Becker colon...@free.fr a écrit : sous unstable et avec Iceweasel 14.0.1, je n'arrive pas à lire

Re: vidéo France 5

2013-03-01 Thread Sylvain L. Sauvage
[Au passage, ton PC a 10 min d’avance.] Le vendredi 1 mars 2013 à 20:47:09, Klaus Becker a écrit : […] $ apt-cache search moonlight libmono-wcf3.0-cil - Mono WCF libraries (for CLI 2.0) C'est ça qu'il faut installer? Après apt-cache search, tu devrais faire apt-cache show et lire la

Re: HS - Client openvpn sur iOS/android

2013-03-01 Thread Olivier
Le 28 février 2013 18:02, Alexis de BRUYN alexis.mailingl...@de-bruyn.fra écrit : Bonjour Olivier, J'ai lu ici [1] qu'il existait depuis peu un client openvpn officiel pour iOS et pour android. Pourtant, en demandant à des possesseurs d'iPhone de le confirmer, on me répond qu'openvpn

resultat different d'un script appele par cron ou en console

2013-03-01 Thread C Diaz
Bonsoir, Mon problème du jour, un script, appelé par cron, ne donne pas le même résultat que si je l'exécute dans une console. Dans la crontab de root il y a cette ligne: 30 20 * * */usr/local/bin/mon_script.sh et mon script contient les lignes: --

Logiciel QCM + réponses écrites

2013-03-01 Thread andre_debian
Bonsoir, Connaissez vous un logiciel OpenSource d'enquêtes, type QCM et avec aussi la possibilité de réponses écrites poir le sondé. Il y a Limesurvey mais trop compliqué pour créer le questionnaire. (il faut s'y plonger pendant des heures et je suis pressé) Je cherche un outil simple pour

Re: Logiciel QCM + réponses écrites

2013-03-01 Thread Bzzz
On Fri, 1 Mar 2013 23:48:47 +0100 andre_deb...@numericable.fr wrote: Je cherche un outil simple pour créer le questionnaire rapidement sans prise de tête, sinon directement depuis un site mais gratuit ... Des tas de CRM doivent faire l'affaire; la plupart permettent de lancer un sondage sur

RE: resultat different d'un script appele par cron ou en console

2013-03-01 Thread SIAGEP - Stéphane RIGOULOT
Du fonctionnement du grep dans les scripts CRON. Quelques pistes : http://www.dbforums.com/unix-shell-scripts/731441-strange-problem-grep-cron- not-working.html http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-general-1/grep-does-not-work-i n-crontab-script-579483/

Re: Raspbian di Raspberry Pi

2013-03-01 Thread Zaki Akhmad
On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 8:51 AM, Samsul Ma'arif sam...@samsul.web.id wrote: Salam juga, mohon maaf pak, kok 404 ya? Not Found The requested URL /2013/02/11/mencoba-raspberry-pi/ was not found on this server. Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an

Rilis Debian Handbook Bahasa Indonesia: Bab 1

2013-03-01 Thread Zaki Akhmad
Salam, Hari ini saya putuskan untuk rilis versi testing, Debian Handbook bahasa Indonesia, bab 1. Bukunya bisa diunduh di sini[1] Silakan diunduh, dibaca, dan dicerminkan ;-) Kata pengantar dari saya bisa dibaca di sini[2]. [1]http://za.cindai.web.id/debian/debian-handbook/id/20130301/ [2]http

Re: error libc6-dev depende libc6

2013-03-01 Thread Hernan Montero
El 1 de marzo de 2013 01:59, Kero Coco kerococ...@gmail.com escribió: Hola amigos de Debian, favor necesito su ayuda, no puedo corregir este error:(libc6-dev:i386 depende de libc6 (= 2.13-38); sin embargo: La versión de `libc6:i386' en el sistema es 2.13-37),hay algunos paquetes que

Re: error libc6-dev depende libc6

2013-03-01 Thread Camaleón
El Thu, 28 Feb 2013 23:59:27 -0500, Kero Coco escribió: Hola amigos de Debian, favor necesito su ayuda, no puedo corregir este error:(libc6-dev:i386 depende de libc6 (= 2.13-38); sin embargo: La versión de `libc6:i386' en el sistema es 2.13-37),hay algunos paquetes que dependen de la

Re: error libc6-dev depende libc6

2013-03-01 Thread Angel Claudio Alvarez
El Thu, 28 Feb 2013 23:59:27 -0500 Kero Coco kerococ...@gmail.com escribió: Hola amigos de Debian, favor necesito su ayuda, no puedo corregir este error:(libc6-dev:i386 depende de libc6 (= 2.13-38); sin embargo: La versión de `libc6:i386' en el sistema es 2.13-37),hay algunos paquetes que

tux guitar no suena

2013-03-01 Thread francisco cid
hola, instalé tux guitar version 1,2 y no puedo hacer que suenen las tablaturas, el sonido funciona bien en las demas aplicaciones, uso debian testing amd 64 saludos!

Re: tux guitar no suena

2013-03-01 Thread Juan Lavieri
Hola El 01/03/13 22:00, francisco cid escribió: hola, instalé tux guitar version 1,2 y no puedo hacer que suenen las tablaturas, el sonido funciona bien en las demas aplicaciones, uso debian testing amd 64 Trata de ejecutarlo desde un terminal gráfico y mira qué mensajes te arroja. Sin

Re: tux guitar no suena

2013-03-01 Thread francisco cid
root@francisco:/home/francisco# tuxguitar $MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME not valid : check doc shipped w/ tuxguitar /dev/sequencer: No existe el fichero o el directorio eso fue lo que me salió El 2 de marzo de 2013 00:17, Juan Lavieri jlavi...@gmail.com escribió: Hola El 01/03/13 22:00, francisco cid

Re: tux guitar no suena

2013-03-01 Thread Agustín Ruatta
El 01/03/13 23:30, francisco cid escribió: hola, instalé tux guitar version 1,2 y no puedo hacer que suenen las tablaturas, el sonido funciona bien en las demas aplicaciones, uso debian testing amd 64 saludos! A mi me había pasado lo mismo, pero en Ubuntu, y si no me confundo lo solucione

Re: tux guitar no suena

2013-03-01 Thread fuente obejuna
Perdón, lo mandé como privado. Va de nuevo. El 2 de marzo de 2013 00:45, francisco cid francisco...@gmail.comescribió: root@francisco:/home/francisco# tuxguitar $MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME not valid : check doc shipped w/ tuxguitar /dev/sequencer: No existe el fichero o el directorio eso fue lo que

Re: tux guitar no suena

2013-03-01 Thread francisco cid
gracias a todos, pude solucionar el problema! El 2 de marzo de 2013 01:27, fuente obejuna obeju...@gmail.com escribió: Perdón, lo mandé como privado. Va de nuevo. El 2 de marzo de 2013 00:45, francisco cid francisco...@gmail.comescribió: root@francisco:/home/francisco# tuxguitar

Re: [OT] Perfil Debian Brasil nas redes sociais

2013-03-01 Thread Éverton Arruda
Olá, somente para complementar: Temos uma conta, no twitter, que divulga os posts do Planeta Debian Brasil: http://twitter.com/planetadebianbr Abraços, On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 9:50 AM, Paulo Henrique Santana phl...@gmail.comwrote: Olá pessoal, Divulgando pra quem quiser seguir:

Re: [OT] Perfil Debian Brasil nas redes sociais

2013-03-01 Thread P. J.
Vcs só esqueceram de esclarecer que não são comunidades oficiais do Debian 2013/3/1, Paulo Henrique Santana phl...@gmail.com: Olá pessoal, Divulgando pra quem quiser seguir: http://www.facebook.com/DebianBrasil http://twitter.com/debianbrasil Abraços, -- Paulo Henrique de Lima

QuadCore - Assus

2013-03-01 Thread Tim
Olá, Instalei o Wheezy em outra máquina Quadcore com placa de video Asus - - Pkl 1600 e o Gnome 3 não abriu ... Alguém Poderia me auxiliar como reconhecer a placa ? Obrigado Tim -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe.

Re: QuadCore - Assus

2013-03-01 Thread Rodolfo
segure CTRL+ALT+F1 , para voce entrar no tty1, e logue como root, depois veja os logs. Em 1 de março de 2013 13:43, Tim timkha...@gmail.com escreveu: Olá, Instalei o Wheezy em outra máquina Quadcore com placa de video Asus - - Pkl 1600 e o Gnome 3 não abriu ... Alguém Poderia me auxiliar

(Ultimos 2 Lugares) IZTACCIHUATL all inclusive Marzo 9 / 10

2013-03-01 Thread Deporte6am
IZTACCIHUATL 2013 (ULTIMOS 2 LUGARES) ALL INCLUSIVE GUIAS PRO TRANSPORTE EQUIPAMIENTO (arnes, casco, piolet, crampones...) COMIDAS CAMPAMENTO Marzo 9 y 10, 2013 Apto para los que han conquistado el Nevado de Toluca con Deporte6am INFORMACION

Re: ? Debian on dual-socket Xeon server hardware

2013-03-01 Thread Arun Khan
On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 1:07 PM, zxcvbob zxcv...@charter.net wrote: I didn't know VT-x mattered, but these have it. Intel Xeon® L5320 or X3210: VT-x does matter. L KVM will not work without it, although Virtual Box may. Sooner or later you may want to experiment with the cloud solutions

Re: Moving from a proprietary OS - unnecessarily inful experience -- was [Re: I wish to advocate linux]

2013-03-01 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Thursday 28 February 2013 23:20:08 Miles Fidelman wrote: Your experience doesn't make your point of reference of any greater value than anyone else's.  Many people go back a long way.  You were obviously in the miltary and/or in the States, since the first commercial computer this side

moving /var

2013-03-01 Thread Maroš Žilka
Hi, I read in book about Linux file systems and at the end of chapter there was one example in which author wanted to create dedicated volume for /var coz it was mounted on root partition. Lets skip some steps and assume we have prepared partition on disk - /dev/sdb1so he did it this way:

Re: moving /var

2013-03-01 Thread Lars Noodén
On 3/1/13 10:41 AM, Maroš Žilka wrote: What would be better way to do it ? Is it even possible to do such change on running system without worries to lose some data ? I wouldn't do it on a running system. Better to boot from a live CD or similar and do it from there. About a different way,

Re: moving /var

2013-03-01 Thread Slavko
Hi, Dňa 1. 3. 2013 9:41 Maroš Žilka wrote / napísal(a): and what is really bothering me most is that cp command, wouldn't it possibly create inconsistency ? What would be better way to do it ? Is it even possible to do such change on running system without worries to lose some data ? some

Re: moving /var

2013-03-01 Thread Claudius Hubig
Dear Maroš, Maroš Žilka wrote: [root@server ~]# mkdir /new_var [root@server ~]# mount /dev/sdb1 /new_var [root@server ~]# cp -vrp /var/* /new_var/ [root@server ~]# mv /var /old_var [root@server ~]# mkdir /var [root@server ~]# mount --bind /new_var/ /var and what is really bothering me

Re: moving /var

2013-03-01 Thread Jerome BENOIT
Hello List, On 01/03/13 09:53, Lars Noodén wrote: On 3/1/13 10:41 AM, Maroš Žilka wrote: What would be better way to do it ? Is it even possible to do such change on running system without worries to lose some data ? I wouldn't do it on a running system. Better to boot from a live CD or

Re: I wish to advocate linux

2013-03-01 Thread Morel Bérenger
Le Jeu 28 février 2013 11:32, Chris Bannister a écrit : [Please keep attributions, I presume you are not answering yourself!] On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 10:39:09AM +0100, Morel Bérenger wrote: what? That's absurd. The only people I know who have their OS installed at a shop are Apple users.

Re: Moving from a proprietary OS - unnecessarily inful experience -- was [Re: I wish to advocate linux]

2013-03-01 Thread Morel Bérenger
Le Ven 1 mars 2013 0:20, Miles Fidelman a écrit : - those of us who go back a bit date from a time when computer science was an offshoot of electrical engineering analog and digital circuitry before ever touching a computer - gives a very different perspective than starting with programming I

Re: tar - unresponsive machine

2013-03-01 Thread Morel Bérenger
Le Jeu 28 février 2013 19:22, Vincent Lefevre a écrit : But isn't it possible to lower the priority automatically (without an additional command like ionice) when a process takes all the I/O resources. Perhaps this isn't clear, but what I mean is that a process shouldn't take constantly all

Re: moving /var

2013-03-01 Thread Joao Luis Meloni Assirati
Hello List, On 01/03/13 09:53, Lars Noodén wrote: On 3/1/13 10:41 AM, Maroš Žilka wrote: What would be better way to do it ? Is it even possible to do such change on running system without worries to lose some data ? I wouldn't do it on a running system. Better to boot from a live CD or

Re: moving /var

2013-03-01 Thread Lars Noodén
On 3/1/13 1:06 PM, Joao Luis Meloni Assirati wrote: It is simpler to move the partition in single user mode. Just issue the command (as root) # shutdown now Thanks. Single user mode is for things just like that. The answer was in front of us the whole time. Regards, /Lars -- To

Re: Moving from a proprietary OS - unnecessarily inful experience -- was [Re: I wish to advocate linux]

2013-03-01 Thread agroconsultor0
On Thu, 28 Feb 2013 16:43:13 -0500 Miles Fidelman mfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote: Richard Owlett wrote: Nope ;) It was the standard IBM keypunch. I spent many hours muttering at it in 1961. Ok... definitely a bit before my time. Used keypunches my freshman year at college (1971)

Re: moving /var

2013-03-01 Thread Jerome BENOIT
Hello, On 01/03/13 12:06, Joao Luis Meloni Assirati wrote: Hello List, On 01/03/13 09:53, Lars Noodén wrote: On 3/1/13 10:41 AM, Maroš Žilka wrote: What would be better way to do it ? Is it even possible to do such change on running system without worries to lose some data ? I wouldn't do

Re: Re: sort files by name and maintain sort order when copying to mp3player

2013-03-01 Thread benjamin kent
A combination of - http://sourceforge.net/projects/plgen - http://sourceforge.net/projects/fatsort could help. Kind regards, Benjamin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive:

RE: moving /var

2013-03-01 Thread Bonno Bloksma
Hi, A simple live CD is sufficient: Debian netinst minimal CD in rescue mode is sufficient to do so. Do not forget to update the /etc/fstab configuration file with respect to the change; to clean up the /var (and let an empty one) in the `/' (root) partition. It is simpler to move the

Re: Re: sort files by name and maintain sort order when copying to mp3player

2013-03-01 Thread Benjamin Egner
A combination of - http://sourceforge.net/projects/plgen - http://sourceforge.net/projects/fatsort could help. Kind regards, Benjamin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive:

Re: Removing commited versions from git history

2013-03-01 Thread Richard Hector
On 28/02/13 21:29, Morel Bérenger wrote: Le Jeu 28 février 2013 3:53, T o n g a écrit : Hi, I want to permanently delete an old revision (or revisions) of single file from Git. Specifically, I want to delete from my public git server repo my initial published version of one single file, but

Re: Keyboard remapping

2013-03-01 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2013-03-01 14:49:09 +1100, Daniel Dalton wrote: On Fri, Mar 01, 2013 at 03:38:23AM +0100, Vincent Lefevre wrote: On 2013-03-01 12:07:07 +1100, Daniel Dalton wrote: I've ran showkeys and found that the fn key has a key code. However, when I do fn+j for example only the fn key code

Re: moving /var

2013-03-01 Thread Nicolas Bercher
On 01/03/2013 09:41, Maroš Žilka wrote: Hi, I read in book about Linux file systems and at the end of chapter there was one example in which author wanted to create dedicated volume for /var coz it was mounted on root partition. Lets skip some steps and assume we have prepared partition on disk

Re: Moving from a proprietary OS - unnecessarily inful experience -- was [Re: I wish to advocate linux]

2013-03-01 Thread Miles Fidelman
Morel Bérenger wrote: Le Ven 1 mars 2013 0:20, Miles Fidelman a écrit : - also, those of us who date back a few years still think of computers as things that need some assembly and bring that view to system software as well Well, here, let me laugh. Something which needs some assembly, is

Re: Two copies of E-Mail (Re: I wish to advocate linux)

2013-03-01 Thread Miles Fidelman
Bob Proulx wrote: David Guntner wrote: Anyway, the recipe is dirt simple. ... # Duplicate Suppression. :0Whc: $MAILDIR/.msgid.cache.lock | $FORMAIL -D 8192 $MAILDIR/.msgid.cache # Take out the Trash. :0 a: /dev/null For one I use the mailing list headers List-Id

Re: tar - unresponsive machine

2013-03-01 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2013-02-28 16:39:23 +, Claudius Hubig wrote: IOW, some more information on your setup (disk type, output of free -m etc) might be helpful. I could reproduce the problem when Firefox was running. Here are two outputs of free -m while tar was running: ypig:~ free -m total

Driver Network Dell PowerEdge R720

2013-03-01 Thread rodrigo tavares
Hello, I made a download debian-6.0.7-amd64-netinst.iso. I have Dell Power EDGE, when I go to install debian, it not detect a driver network. I put broadcom but fail. What Is happening ? Rodrigo Faria   

Re: Driver Network Dell PowerEdge R720

2013-03-01 Thread Eero Volotinen
http://ftzdomino.blogspot.fi/2009/06/debianbroadcom-driver-fix.html?m=1 On Mar 1, 2013 4:32 PM, rodrigo tavares rodrigofar...@yahoo.com.br wrote: Hello, I made a download debian-6.0.7-amd64-netinst.iso. I have Dell Power EDGE, when I go to install debian, it not detect a driver network. I

Re: Driver Network Dell PowerEdge R720

2013-03-01 Thread Joao Luis Meloni Assirati
Hello, I made a download debian-6.0.7-amd64-netinst.iso. I have Dell Power EDGE, when I go to install debian, it not detect a driver network. I put broadcom but fail. Rodrigo, we cannot help if you don't tell what is the exact model of the network card. Type the command lspci -vnn in the

Re: Two copies of E-Mail (Re: I wish to advocate linux)

2013-03-01 Thread David Guntner
Bob Proulx grabbed a keyboard and wrote: David Guntner wrote: Anyway, the recipe is dirt simple. ... # Duplicate Suppression. :0Whc: $MAILDIR/.msgid.cache.lock | $FORMAIL -D 8192 $MAILDIR/.msgid.cache # Take out the Trash. :0 a: /dev/null That's all there is to

RE: Driver Network Dell PowerEdge R720

2013-03-01 Thread Bonno Bloksma
Hello, I made a download debian-6.0.7-amd64-netinst.iso. I have Dell Power EDGE, when I go to install debian, it not detect a driver network. I put broadcom but fail. What Is happening ? Probably the driver is not in the default Debian image. Go to the download page

Re: I wish to advocate linux --pclos from flash

2013-03-01 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 3:52 PM, Doug dmcgarr...@optonline.net wrote: On 02/28/2013 02:12 PM, Tom H wrote: On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 1:54 PM, Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: On Thursday 28 February 2013 18:12:14 Tom H wrote: Linux isn't as myopic as people are claiming in this thread.

Re: I wish to advocate linux

2013-03-01 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 4:06 PM, Miles Fidelman mfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote: Tom H wrote: On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 1:12 PM, Miles Fidelman mfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote: Tom H wrote: On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 9:32 PM, Miles Fidelman mfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote: Come to think of

Re: I wish to advocate linux --pclos from flash

2013-03-01 Thread Joao Luis Meloni Assirati
Thanks but these instructions are for creating an installation flash drive on Linux - and they're well hidden. So it's a fail from the perspective of the person criticizing distributions for not providing readily-available Windows instructions for creating one. Wow! This trolling will never

Re: I wish to advocate linux --pclos from flash

2013-03-01 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 12:25 PM, Joao Luis Meloni Assirati assir...@nonada.if.usp.br wrote: Thanks but these instructions are for creating an installation flash drive on Linux - and they're well hidden. So it's a fail from the perspective of the person criticizing distributions for not

Re: fix HD order

2013-03-01 Thread mess-mate
On 28-Feb-13 16:55, Joao Luis Meloni Assirati wrote: Hi, i've 4 HD's and 3 distros. When i load debian squeeze, the sdc hd is slected by grub, but the next time i load it, the sda hd is selected. It seems a randomize selecting. How can i fix this ? UID is used and settings by name don't resolve

Re: Moving from a proprietary OS - unnecessarily inful experience -- was [Re: I wish to advocate linux]

2013-03-01 Thread Cybe R. Wizard
On Fri, 1 Mar 2013 08:33:41 + Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: He cannot both be around 70 (he usually says he is approaching 70) and have worked on/with punched cards in 1949. (Do the arithmetic.) That certainly doesn't tell the whole story. Those same punch cards or ones

Re: Moving from a proprietary OS - unnecessarily inful experience -- was [Re: I wish to advocate linux]

2013-03-01 Thread Brian
On Fri 01 Mar 2013 at 08:34:57 -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote: Fair enough, but... I have to say it Back in my day, we not only had to walk to school, uphill, in both directions, in the snow, but we also had to build our computers by hand, from TTL logic gates. :-) You had TTL logic

Re: Moving from a proprietary OS - unnecessarily inful experience -- was [Re: I wish to advocate linux]

2013-03-01 Thread Richard Owlett
Brian wrote: On Fri 01 Mar 2013 at 08:34:57 -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote: Fair enough, but... I have to say it Back in my day, we not only had to walk to school, uphill, in both directions, in the snow, but we also had to build our computers by hand, from TTL logic gates. :-) You had TTL

Installation failed - again - why am I not surprised

2013-03-01 Thread Mark Filipak
Do you want to help? If no, stop reading now (I don't need more heckling). What I did: 1 - Booted Windows. 1.1 - Copied the Debian-Gnome Live ISO to an 8-GB USB. 1.2 - Shut down Windows. 2 - Booted Debian-Gnome from 8-GB USB - success! 2.1 - Shut down Debian-Gnome. 3 - Booted Windows. 3.1 -

Re: Moving from a proprietary OS - unnecessarily inful experience -- was [Re: I wish to advocate linux]

2013-03-01 Thread Richard Owlett
Cybe R. Wizard wrote: On Fri, 1 Mar 2013 08:33:41 + Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: He cannot both be around 70 (he usually says he is approaching 70) and have worked on/with punched cards in 1949. (Do the arithmetic.) I never claimed to be THAT old. Parents married day before

Re: Installation failed - again - why am I not surprised

2013-03-01 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 1:39 PM, Mark Filipak markfilipak.li...@gmail.com wrote: Do you want to help? If no, stop reading now (I don't need more heckling). Between this comment... Any/all help appreciated except from Lisi Reisz. ...and this one, who would want to help?! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE,

Re: Moving from a proprietary OS - unnecessarily inful experience -- was [Re: I wish to advocate linux]

2013-03-01 Thread Go Linux
--- On Fri, 3/1/13, Richard Owlett rowl...@cloud85.net wrote: From: Richard Owlett rowl...@cloud85.net Subject: Re: Moving from a proprietary OS - unnecessarily inful experience -- was [Re: I wish to advocate linux] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Date: Friday, March 1, 2013, 12:43 PM

Re: I wish to advocate linux --pclos from flash

2013-03-01 Thread Brian
On Fri 01 Mar 2013 at 12:38:25 -0500, Tom H wrote: On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 12:25 PM, Joao Luis Meloni Assirati assir...@nonada.if.usp.br wrote: Thanks but these instructions are for creating an installation flash drive on Linux - and they're well hidden. So it's a fail from the perspective

Re: Installation failed

2013-03-01 Thread Mark Filipak
On 2013/3/1 1:54 PM, Shane Johnson wrote: Mark, There is a specific method to install to USB. Please see : http://wiki.debian.org/BootUsb Thank you, Shane. I did use 'dd' to write the Debian Live ISOs to USBs and that did work (though the documentation for 'dd' was wrong). A gentleman on

RAID1 all bootable

2013-03-01 Thread Francesco Pietra
Hi: With a raid1 amd64 wheezy, one of the two HDs got broken. Unfortunately, I had added grub to sda only, which is just the one broken. So that, when it is replaced with a fresh HD, the OS is not found. Inverting the SATA cables of course does not help (Operative System Not Found). In a previous

Re: Installation failed

2013-03-01 Thread Shane Johnson
Thank you, Shane. I did use 'dd' to write the Debian Live ISOs to USBs and that did work (though the documentation for 'dd' was wrong). A gentleman on the debian-live list helped me. What didn't work was this: When I attempted to install from one (booted) USB (running Debian-LXDE) to another

Re: I wish to advocate linux --pclos from flash

2013-03-01 Thread Doug
On 03/01/2013 12:13 PM, Tom H wrote: /snip/ And there is always PCLinuxOS, which was originally designed expressly to make the transition to Linux easy for Windows users. I wasn't making an exhaustive list of distributions. I just check three and found their instructions. I've just checked

Re: RAID1 all bootable

2013-03-01 Thread Shane Johnson
Francesco, If your RAID is mdadm based, I would use a live CD and then chroot into your installed OS. Once in, I would use grub-install /dev/sd? to add the MBR info to the mirror. Once you are back up and running you can use mdadm to remove the defective disk and if desired add a new one to the

ESC[4m does not produce underline

2013-03-01 Thread Thomas D. Dean
The ANSI standard lists ESC[4m as the code to produce an underline export TERM=ansi80x25 printf \033[4masdfasdfasdf produces green text, not underline text as stated in the standard. If I put the same in c code, it works #include stdio.h int main() { fputs(\033[4masdfasdf,stdout); return 0;

Re: Moving from a proprietary OS - unnecessarily inful experience -- was [Re: I wish to advocate linux]

2013-03-01 Thread Miles Fidelman
Brian wrote: On Fri 01 Mar 2013 at 08:34:57 -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote: Fair enough, but... I have to say it Back in my day, we not only had to walk to school, uphill, in both directions, in the snow, but we also had to build our computers by hand, from TTL logic gates. :-) You had TTL

Re: ESC[4m does not produce underline OOPS

2013-03-01 Thread Thomas D. Dean
On 03/01/13 11:35, Thomas D. Dean wrote: The ANSI standard lists ESC[4m as the code to produce an underline export TERM=ansi80x25 printf \033[4masdfasdfasdf produces green text, not underline text as stated in the standard. If I put the same in c code, it works #include stdio.h int

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