cracker une .rar

2014-11-17 Thread zulian
Bonjour, J'ai acheté un livre technique pour ma voiture. Le site m'envoit le code pour telecharger le fichier. Je récupére le fichier. Oh, surprise ! il s'agit d'un fichier .rar necessitant un mot de passe !! Voic les essais. Une idée ? fred@fred:~/Downloads$ unrar x PRIORA.rar UNRAR

Re: cracker une .rar

2014-11-17 Thread andre_debian
On Monday 17 November 2014 17:04:45 zulian wrote: J'ai acheté un livre technique pour ma voiture. Le site m'envoit le code pour telecharger le fichier. Je récupére le fichier. Oh, surprise ! il s'agit d'un fichier .rar necessitant un mot de passe Voic les essais. Une idée ?

Re: cracker une .rar

2014-11-17 Thread honeyshell
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Re: cracker une .rar

2014-11-17 Thread Sébastien NOBILI
Bonjour, Le lundi 17 novembre 2014 à 17:04, zulian a écrit : Tentative de crack en simple user : fred@fred:~/Downloads$ rarcrack PRIORA.rar –type .rar RarCrack! 0.2 by David Zoltan Kedves (ked...@gmail.com) ERROR: The specified file (.rar) is not exists or you don't have a right

Re: cracker une .rar

2014-11-17 Thread andre_debian
On Monday 17 November 2014 17:04:24 you wrote: Appeler le vendeur du site... veuillez me donner le mot de passe, car j'ai payé ce livre Ben oui, mais ils ne répondent pas aux mails et ils sont localisés aux USA : Ont-il un tél ? As tu envoyé un chèque, virement ou par carte de crédit ?

Re: [HS] Microsoft s'ouvre t-elle à l'opensource ?

2014-11-17 Thread andre_debian
On Monday 17 November 2014 00:02:14 FGK wrote: On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 11:16:31PM +0100, andre_deb...@numericable.fr wrote: Je vais donc résumer : copyright, droit d'auteur, ce n'est sans doute pas tout à fait la même chose. On les oppose même très souvent. Les lois les régissant

Ma Debian va très mal !!

2014-11-17 Thread MERLIN Philippe
Bonjour, Depuis le mois de juin de cette année j'ai des problèmes avec ma debian Sid Amd64. Tous ces problèmes viennent de la migration vers systemd . Si certains problèmes ont été corrigés, services ne se lancant pas au boot, ou arrêt de Samba prenant 5 minutes, d'autre problème entrave le

Re: [HS] Microsoft s'ouvre t-elle à l'opensource ?

2014-11-17 Thread D. Barbier
Le 14 novembre 2014 21:57, FGK a écrit : [...] Oui, mais vous avez vu que le tout est distribué sous licence MIT. Et avez-vous remarqué la licence notamment en terme de contribution au Projet ? Tout est ici : https://cla.dotnetfoundation.org/. Bonjour, Qu'est-ce que l'on comprend à la

Re: Ma Debian va très mal !!

2014-11-17 Thread maderios
On 11/17/2014 06:29 PM, MERLIN Philippe wrote: Bonjour, Depuis le mois de juin de cette année j'ai des problèmes avec ma debian Sid Amd64. Tous ces problèmes viennent de la migration vers systemd . Si certains problèmes ont été corrigés, services ne se lancant pas au boot Salut La migration

Re: Ma Debian va très mal !!

2014-11-17 Thread MERLIN Philippe
Le lundi 17 novembre 2014, 19:01:35 maderios a écrit : On 11/17/2014 06:29 PM, MERLIN Philippe wrote: Bonjour, Depuis le mois de juin de cette année j'ai des problèmes avec ma debian Sid Amd64. Tous ces problèmes viennent de la migration vers systemd . Si certains problèmes ont été

Re: Ma Debian va très mal !!

2014-11-17 Thread maderios
On 11/17/2014 06:29 PM, MERLIN Philippe wrote: Bonjour, Pas de messages personnels. Merci de poster sur la liste. -- Maderios -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe

Re: DKIM Re: Ma Debian va très mal !!

2014-11-17 Thread MERLIN Philippe
Le lundi 17 novembre 2014, 20:07:38 maderios a écrit : On 11/17/2014 06:29 PM, MERLIN Philippe wrote: Bonjour, Pas de messages personnels. Merci de poster sur la liste. je ne comprends pas ton message, j'ai posté ma précédente réponse sur la liste. Philippe Merlin -- Lisez la FAQ de la

Re: Ma Debian va très mal !!

2014-11-17 Thread Pascal Obry
Le lundi 17 novembre 2014 à 19:01 +0100, maderios a écrit : On 11/17/2014 06:29 PM, MERLIN Philippe wrote: Bonjour, Depuis le mois de juin de cette année j'ai des problèmes avec ma debian Sid Amd64. Tous ces problèmes viennent de la migration vers systemd . Si certains problèmes ont été

Re: [HS] Microsoft s'ouvre t-elle à l'opensource ?

2014-11-17 Thread FGK
Bonjour, On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 06:34:19PM +0100, D. Barbier wrote: De plus le Code soumis devient la propriété de .NET Fondation et de ses partenaires commerciaux (voir les points 4.2. et 4.3.) Bah non, le 4.3 dit au contraire que les droits non explicitement mentionnés ne sont pas

Re: [HS] Microsoft s'ouvre t-elle à l'opensource ?

2014-11-17 Thread FGK
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 01:34:21AM +0100, Haricophile wrote: Le Mon, 17 Nov 2014 00:02:14 +0100, FGK f...@opmbx.org a écrit : Pour en terminer là, le but de ma première intervention était simplement de mettre en lumière ce que _permet_ cette CLA. Son application pratique par la .NET

Re: [HS] Microsoft s'ouvre t-elle à l'opensource ?

2014-11-17 Thread FGK
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 05:38:52PM +0100, andre_deb...@numericable.fr wrote: C'est important, afin de ne pas laisser les journaleux faire des déclarations tonitruantes à effets d'annonces achetez mon journal, du genre : Microsoft migre vers les Logiciels Libres et l'Opensource, sous entendu

Re: DKIM Re: Ma Debian va très mal !!

2014-11-17 Thread maderios
On 11/17/2014 08:29 PM, MERLIN Philippe wrote: Le lundi 17 novembre 2014, 20:07:38 maderios a écrit : On 11/17/2014 06:29 PM, MERLIN Philippe wrote: Bonjour, Pas de messages personnels. Merci de poster sur la liste. je ne comprends pas ton message, j'ai posté ma précédente réponse sur la

Re: cracker une .rar

2014-11-17 Thread FAUTRERO Pascal
Bonsoir, Il est très difficile (pour ne pas dire impossible) de pouvoir cracker des mots de passe d'archives vu qu'il est quasiment tout le temps nécessaire d'avoir recours à la force brute. (c'est exceptionnel qu'une archive dispose d'un mot de passe issu d'un dictionnaire quelconque). Et à

Re: cracker une .rar

2014-11-17 Thread andre_debian
On Monday 17 November 2014 21:59:29 you wrote: Il est très difficile (pour ne pas dire impossible) de pouvoir cracker des mots de passe d'archives vu qu'il est quasiment tout le temps nécessaire d'avoir recours à la force brute. (c'est exceptionnel qu'une archive dispose d'un mot de passe issu

Re: [HS] Microsoft s'ouvre t-elle à l'opensource ?

2014-11-17 Thread FGK
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 09:22:29PM +0100, FGK wrote: Par exemple, en ce qui concerne la voie de conséquence : ça n'est pas parce que .NET Fondation va inclure le code dans son projet sous la licence MIT (Expat) en laissant le nom du contributeur que celui-ci a un droit de regard sur le code

Re: [HS] Microsoft s'ouvre t-elle à l'opensource ?

2014-11-17 Thread andre_debian
On Monday 17 November 2014 21:47:09 FGK wrote: On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 05:38:52PM +0100, andre_deb...@numericable.fr wrote: C'est important, afin de ne pas laisser les journaleux faire des déclarations tonitruantes à effets d'annonces achetez mon journal, du genre : Microsoft migre vers les

Re: [HS] Microsoft s'ouvre t-elle à l'opensource ?

2014-11-17 Thread D. Barbier
Le 17 novembre 2014 20:22, FGK a écrit : [...] En ce qui concerne le CLA de Google par contre, a priori je te rejoindrai. Mais je ne l'ai lu qu'en diagonale. À première vue, il n'est pas dit que le contributeur conserve ses droits sur son code tandis qu'ils les accordent bien à Google. Si si,

Re: [HS] Microsoft s'ouvre t-elle à l'opensource ?

2014-11-17 Thread chris21 . roux
L'histoire se répète: Microsoft voyant qu'il ne peut pas vaincre Linux essaie de l'infiltrer grâce à des sociétés secrètes pour le pervertir et le contrôler, tout comme en son temps l'empire romain a voulu pervertir le christianisme en en faisant une religion d'état gouvernée secrètement par une

Re: Ma Debian va très mal !!

2014-11-17 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 06:29:50PM +0100, MERLIN Philippe a écrit : Depuis le mois de juin de cette année j'ai des problèmes avec ma debian Sid … J'ai lu dans les Dernières nouvelles du projet Debian que Jessie était gelé, j'espère que ces problèmes causés par systemd seront résolus car

Re: [HS] Microsoft s'ouvre t-elle à l'opensource ?

2014-11-17 Thread FGK
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 10:11:44PM +, D. Barbier wrote: Le 17 novembre 2014 20:22, FGK a écrit : [...] En ce qui concerne le CLA de Google par contre, a priori je te rejoindrai. Mais je ne l'ai lu qu'en diagonale. À première vue, il n'est pas dit que le contributeur conserve ses

Laporan Akhir DebConf14

2014-11-17 Thread Zaki Akhmad
Salam, Laporan akhir DebConf14 sudah bisa dibaca di: * http://media.debconf.org/dc14/report/DebConf14_final_report.en.pdf Semoga bermanfaat, -- Zaki Akhmad -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-indonesian-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact

Re: Error en consola Debian Wheezy

2014-11-17 Thread Maykel Franco
El día 14 de noviembre de 2014, 17:17, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió: El Thu, 13 Nov 2014 21:08:57 +0100, Maykel Franco escribió: Buenas, tengo un servidor en casa con memorias ECC, y me devuelve esto a veces en la propia consola a través de syslog: kernel:EDAC i5400 MC0: Non-Fatal

(SOLUCIONADO) Re: Prerotate no funciona como debería

2014-11-17 Thread Maykel Franco
El día 14 de noviembre de 2014, 9:46, ZorroPlateado i32lelor.deb...@gmail.com escribió: El 13/11/2014, a las 11:52, Maykel Franco maykeldeb...@gmail.com escribió: Buenas, quiero que en el rotado de logs, antes de rotar, ejecuto awstats(por ejemplo) en búsqueda del primer fichero no rotado,

Re: Ver estadísticas de tráfico apache por url

2014-11-17 Thread Maykel Franco
El día 30 de octubre de 2014, 15:18, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió: El Wed, 29 Oct 2014 19:53:24 +0100, Maykel Franco Hernández Mo2o escribió: (Grrr...) El 29/10/2014 19:37, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió: El Wed, 29 Oct 2014 19:22:36 +0100, Maykel Franco escribió: Buenas

Re: Redis vs Memcached vs couchbase

2014-11-17 Thread Maykel Franco
El día 27 de octubre de 2014, 0:28, Maykel Franco maykeldeb...@gmail.com escribió: Buenas, estoy mirando la manera de tener un sistema replicado y distribuido con escalabilidad para guardar las sesiones que crean las app. Couchbase usa el mismo mecanimos que memcached, de echo en lo que he

Re: Backups con lvm snapshot en caliente - tamaño necesario

2014-11-17 Thread Maykel Franco
El día 17 de octubre de 2014, 17:42, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió: El Fri, 17 Oct 2014 13:04:31 +0200, Maykel Franco escribió: 2014-10-16 20:14 GMT+02:00 Camaleón noela...@gmail.com: El Thu, 16 Oct 2014 18:32:01 +0200, Maykel Franco escribió: Aprovecho este hilo para preguntar si

(SOLUCIONADO) Re: Backups con lvm snapshot en caliente - tamaño necesario

2014-11-17 Thread Maykel Franco
El día 17 de noviembre de 2014, 12:33, Maykel Franco maykeldeb...@gmail.com escribió: El día 17 de octubre de 2014, 17:42, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió: El Fri, 17 Oct 2014 13:04:31 +0200, Maykel Franco escribió: 2014-10-16 20:14 GMT+02:00 Camaleón noela...@gmail.com: El Thu, 16 Oct

Problema con filtros rsyslog en debian

2014-11-17 Thread Maykel Franco
Buenas, tengo un servidor de logs centralizado, y quiero poner un filtro para que, dependiendo del virtualname (subdominio vhost apache) del que llegue, lo escriba en un log o en otro. Tengo 5 nodos web, los cuales envían los logs por las facility en remoto: facility local1.info -- access.log

ssh de solaris a debian

2014-11-17 Thread Gonzalo Rivero
Buenas, me pasa algo raro, tengo esta instalación de OpenIndiana (que deriva de opensolaris) e intenté entrar a mi computadora (debian testing, y, como todos los lunes (me da flojera actualizar mas seguido), recién actualizada) # ssh 172.16.250.250 no common kex alg: client

Re: ssh de solaris a debian

2014-11-17 Thread Ricardo Eureka!
Manda la salida de # ssh -vv 172.16.250.250 El 17 de noviembre de 2014, 9:53, Gonzalo Rivero fishfromsa...@gmail.com escribió: Buenas, me pasa algo raro, tengo esta instalación de OpenIndiana (que deriva de opensolaris) e intenté entrar a mi computadora (debian testing, y, como todos los

Re: Ver estadísticas de tráfico apache por url

2014-11-17 Thread Camaleón
El Mon, 17 Nov 2014 12:28:33 +0100, Maykel Franco escribió: El día 30 de octubre de 2014, 15:18, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió: (...) Conozco awstats y webalizer pero creo que para este caso se quedan cortos... Precisamente acabo de desactivar uno de esos servicios de análisis

Re: ssh de solaris a debian

2014-11-17 Thread Camaleón
El Mon, 17 Nov 2014 09:53:06 -0300, Gonzalo Rivero escribió: Buenas, Ese html... me pasa algo raro, tengo esta instalación de OpenIndiana (que deriva de opensolaris) e intenté entrar a mi computadora (debian testing, y, como todos los lunes (me da flojera actualizar mas seguido), recién

Re: Ver estadísticas de tráfico apache por url

2014-11-17 Thread Maykel Franco
El día 17 de noviembre de 2014, 15:33, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió: El Mon, 17 Nov 2014 12:28:33 +0100, Maykel Franco escribió: El día 30 de octubre de 2014, 15:18, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió: (...) Conozco awstats y webalizer pero creo que para este caso se quedan

Re: Problema con filtros rsyslog en debian

2014-11-17 Thread Camaleón
El Mon, 17 Nov 2014 12:58:35 +0100, Maykel Franco escribió: Buenas, tengo un servidor de logs centralizado, y quiero poner un filtro para que, dependiendo del virtualname (subdominio vhost apache) del que llegue, lo escriba en un log o en otro. (...) El problema viene al generar

Re: Ver estadísticas de tráfico apache por url

2014-11-17 Thread Camaleón
El Mon, 17 Nov 2014 15:52:32 +0100, Maykel Franco escribió: El día 17 de noviembre de 2014, 15:33, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió: (...) http://analog.sourceforge.net/ Y con el logformat me volví loco, yo necesito el logformat vhost_combined, que es como guardo los logs, y con

Re: ssh de solaris a debian

2014-11-17 Thread Gonzalo Rivero
El lun, 17-11-2014 a las 09:55 -0300, Ricardo Eureka! escribió: Manda la salida de # ssh -vv 172.16.250.250 solaris a debian (el sentido en que no anda) # ssh -vv grivero@172.16.250.250 Sun_SSH_1.5, SSH protocols 1.5/2.0, OpenSSL 0x0090818f debug1: Reading configuration data /etc/ssh/ssh_config

Error al actualizar Iceweasel

2014-11-17 Thread Marco Da Silva
Saludos Lista! Estoy intentando aplicar la actualización del iceweasel y la misma no culmina exitosamente, a continuación (también intente con full-upgrade) root@server:# aptitude clean root@server:# aptitude autoclean Freed 0 B of disk space root@server:# aptitude update Hit

Re: ssh de solaris a debian

2014-11-17 Thread Ricardo Eureka!
Agrego: Revisa los logs de ssh tanto en el Debian como en el Solaris, a ver que pistas o errores te da. 2014-11-17 16:43 GMT-03:00 Ricardo Eureka! ricardoeur...@gmail.com: Gonzalo Limpio un poco e intercalo mis respuestas: El 17 de noviembre de 2014, 13:37, Gonzalo Rivero

Re: ssh de solaris a debian

2014-11-17 Thread Ricardo Eureka!
Gonzalo Limpio un poco e intercalo mis respuestas: El 17 de noviembre de 2014, 13:37, Gonzalo Rivero fishfromsa...@gmail.com escribió: El lun, 17-11-2014 a las 09:55 -0300, Ricardo Eureka! escribió: Manda la salida de # ssh -vv 172.16.250.250 solaris a debian (el sentido en que no anda)

Re: Error al actualizar Iceweasel

2014-11-17 Thread Gonzalo Rivero
El lun, 17-11-2014 a las 14:11 -0400, Marco Da Silva escribió: Saludos Lista! Estoy intentando aplicar la actualización del iceweasel y la misma no culmina exitosamente, a continuación (también intente con full-upgrade) root@server:# aptitude clean root@server:# aptitude autoclean

Re: Bajar version anterior de un paquete

2014-11-17 Thread Pablo
2014-11-16 15:18 GMT-03:00 Camaleón noela...@gmail.com: El Sun, 16 Nov 2014 19:04:40 +0100, Eduardo Rios escribió: El 16/11/14 a las 18:26, Camaleón escribió: (...) Eduardo, ¿qué te dice la pestaña Versión en cada uno de esos paquetes? Eso es lo importante. Solo me aparece la

Re: Error al actualizar Iceweasel

2014-11-17 Thread Eduardo Rios
El 17/11/14 a las 19:11, Marco Da Silva escribió: Saludos Lista! Estoy intentando aplicar la actualización del iceweasel y la misma no culmina exitosamente, a continuación (también intente con full-upgrade) root@server:# aptitude clean root@server:# aptitude autoclean Freed 0 B of disk space

Re: ssh de solaris a debian

2014-11-17 Thread Gonzalo Rivero
El lun, 17-11-2014 a las 16:43 -0300, Ricardo Eureka! escribió: Gonzalo Limpio un poco e intercalo mis respuestas: El 17 de noviembre de 2014, 13:37, Gonzalo Rivero fishfromsa...@gmail.com escribió: El lun, 17-11-2014 a las 09:55 -0300, Ricardo Eureka! escribió:

Re: Error al actualizar Iceweasel

2014-11-17 Thread Camaleón
El Mon, 17 Nov 2014 20:46:40 +0100, Eduardo Rios escribió: El 17/11/14 a las 19:11, Marco Da Silva escribió: Saludos Lista! Estoy intentando aplicar la actualización del iceweasel y la misma no culmina exitosamente, a continuación (también intente con full-upgrade) (...) root@server:#

Re: Error al actualizar Iceweasel

2014-11-17 Thread Manolo Díaz
El lunes, 17 nov 2014 a las 21:51 horas (UTC+1), Camaleón escribió: El Mon, 17 Nov 2014 20:46:40 +0100, Eduardo Rios escribió: El 17/11/14 a las 19:11, Marco Da Silva escribió: Saludos Lista! Estoy intentando aplicar la actualización del iceweasel y la misma no culmina exitosamente, a

Re: Error al actualizar Iceweasel

2014-11-17 Thread Santiago Vila
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 02:11:53PM -0400, Marco Da Silva wrote: dpkg-deb (subprocess): decompressing archive member: lzma error: compressed data is corrupt dpkg-deb: error: subprocess decompress returned error exit status 2 dpkg: error processing

Re: [01/05] Embedded with systemd: systemd and SIL

2014-11-17 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 7:52 PM, Robert debembed...@gmail.com wrote: By choosing packages carefully, it is possible to use linux in applications that need to meet SIL1 or SIL2 criteria [1]. No. At least this is my understanding of the situation today. SIL, or System Integrity Level, is

Re: [04/05] Embedded with systemd: systemd and kernel upgrades

2014-11-17 Thread Darac Marjal
On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 08:52:37PM +0200, Robert wrote: This was recently posted on #systemd-devel: To make this clear, we expect that systemd and kernels are updated in lockstep. We explicitly do not support really old kernels with really new systemd. So far we had the focus to support up

Re: systemd - so much energy wasted in quarreling

2014-11-17 Thread Eduard Bloch
Hallo, * st [Tue, Nov 11 2014, 02:01:46AM]: Hans wrote: And at the beginning things never work perfect That's why they shouldn't make it into Stable as defaults, now should they? We shouldn't and we are not. Because it's not the beginning, systemd already has multiple years of history

Re: Embedded with systemd

2014-11-17 Thread Jeremiah Foster
-- Embedded with systemd: systemd and kernel upgrades This was recently posted on #systemd-devel: To make this clear, we expect that systemd and kernels are updated in lockstep. We explicitly do not support really old kernels with really new

Re: Valuing non-code contributions -- was Re: systemd - so much energy wasted in quarreling

2014-11-17 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 01:13:05PM -0500, Ric Moore wrote: On 11/15/2014 08:51 AM, Curt wrote: On 2014-11-15, Renaud OLGIATI ren...@olgiati-in-paraguay.org wrote: Why can't you wrap your lines while you're at it? Can't you set your mail client to wrap them for you ? Sure, and I can

Re: Valuing non-code contributions -- was Re: systemd - so much energy wasted in quarreling

2014-11-17 Thread Tanstaafl
On 11/17/2014 6:10 AM, Chris Bannister cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz wrote: Excuse me, but some people think anatomy jokes are distasteful. Some people think sex should only be for procreation... PC police get sooo tiring... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org

Re: Joey Hess is out?

2014-11-17 Thread Eduard Bloch
Hallo, * Slavko [Sat, Nov 08 2014, 04:13:12PM]: Why don't the anti-systemd people do what they've been threatening the whole time and fuck off to another distro or to FreeBSD? This is exact example why i stopped all my contribution to Debian, and i will not start it again, despite if i

Re: engineering management practices and systemd (Re: Installing an Alternative Init?)

2014-11-17 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 10:14:17PM +0900, Joel Rees wrote: On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 8:51 PM, Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote: On Vi, 14 nov 14, 22:53:36, Joel Rees wrote: If you can't deal with it, snip it? I don't think it brings anything useful to a discussion on -user.

Re: engineering management practices and systemd (Re: Installing an Alternative Init?)

2014-11-17 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 12:00:52PM -0500, Ric Moore wrote: On 11/15/2014 08:35 PM, Ludovic Meyer wrote: At the same time, most debian users likely do not really care about transition plan and systemd. It was widely published everywhere in March and yet, no one would have cared if this

Re: Why focus on systemd?

2014-11-17 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 12:29:45PM -0600, John Hasler wrote: OdyX writes: ...please stop. Seriously. Please stop ranting about the ranting. Seriously. It's just as distracting and irritating as the rants themselves. Just filter the rant threads and those who post them. I'd filter all

Re: Joey Hess is out?

2014-11-17 Thread Gian Uberto Lauri
Eduard Bloch writes: That's not my impression. It's more like: if you don't like systemd, don't use it. If I am left free of doing it, there is no problem, Debian does not force me to use any desktop environment at all, and that pleases me much, so if I am left free to use an older, tested

Re: init scripts [was: If Not Systemd, then What?]

2014-11-17 Thread Marty
On 11/17/2014 01:13 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Du, 16 nov 14, 13:22:54, Marty wrote: On 11/16/2014 11:50 AM, Miles Fidelman wrote: In the later case, one just has to read: http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/Incompatibilities/ to get very, very scared Each one a bug as per

Re: [01/05] Embedded with systemd: systemd and SIL

2014-11-17 Thread Jean-Christian de Rivaz
Le 16. 11. 14 19:52, Robert a écrit : By choosing packages carefully, it is possible to use linux in applications that need to meet SIL1 or SIL2 criteria [1]. I personally don't have any applications that need to meet SIL2, but it is possible to meet SIL1 by taking a normal installation and

Re: Joey Hess is out?

2014-11-17 Thread Martin Read
On 17/11/14 12:25, Gian Uberto Lauri wrote: There were other poor design choices, it seems that Debian maintainers have fixed some of them (i.e. renaming network devices), other seems to be still there (binary logs...). A default Debian jessie configuration has persistent text logs in

Re: dm-crypt/LUKS performance

2014-11-17 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sun, 16 Nov 2014, David Fuchs wrote: I am setting up a system with an Intel octo-core Avoton, which has AES-NI support. After doing some crude benchmarking tests with dd, I am surprised about the huge performance penalty that full-disk encryption apparently has on read/write throughput.

Re: Embedded with systemd

2014-11-17 Thread Paul H
On 17/11/14 21:14, Jeremiah Foster wrote: This is a very onerous requirement in the embedded world. There are many embedded platforms sold today that only have 2.6.X BSPs. But I highly doubt those devices have modern userlands. Which is why we (emdebian users) have ditched the job of

Re: Joey Hess is out?

2014-11-17 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2014 17 Nov 06:01 -0600, Eduard Bloch wrote: Since systemd hatters usually fail on the second task, the rhetorical arsenal is chosen accordingly (ad-hominem, trolling, misquoting, ...). Here is the crux of the problem in these discussions and that is the use of haters as an ad hominem as

Web site conformance and various browsers

2014-11-17 Thread songbird
sometimes i have issues with a website and i cannot tell if it is a problem with the browser or a problem with the website. obviously i am not a website developer so this sort of issue isn't clear where i need to poke at things more... are there any tools available which help sort that out

Re: Joey Hess is out?

2014-11-17 Thread Gian Uberto Lauri
Martin Read writes: Administrators of systemd-based systems who wish to turn off the binary log can, of course, simply add the line Storage=none Happy to hear that Debian configuration is now sane. -- /\ ___Ubuntu: ancient

Strange problem with samba share, maybe dns related

2014-11-17 Thread Cyril Alberts
Hello, today I realized a strange bug (maybe there is a reason for it but I dont know): All our employees have a directory/folder at our (wheezy-lts) server, which is for interchange. Everybody gets a folder with his name where anybody can put things in. It is connected to Windows Clients

systemd for administrators, printable version.

2014-11-17 Thread Erwan David
Is there a printable/epub/pdf version of systemd for administrators ? 20+ HTML pages is very difficult to read, just becaus it requires mouse movement. Even one only HTML page would be better. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe.

Re: Joey Hess is out?

2014-11-17 Thread The Wanderer
On 11/17/2014 at 08:21 AM, Martin Read wrote: On 17/11/14 12:25, Gian Uberto Lauri wrote: There were other poor design choices, it seems that Debian maintainers have fixed some of them (i.e. renaming network devices), other seems to be still there (binary logs...). A default Debian

Re: Joey Hess is out?

2014-11-17 Thread Ansgar Burchardt
On 11/17/2014 03:54 PM, The Wanderer wrote: On 11/17/2014 at 08:21 AM, Martin Read wrote: A default Debian jessie configuration has persistent text logs in /var/log written by rsyslog, and *volatile* binary logs in /run/log/journal written by systemd-journald. Removing the binary logs

Re: Joey Hess is out?

2014-11-17 Thread Christian Seiler
Am 2014-11-17 15:54, schrieb The Wanderer: On 11/17/2014 at 08:21 AM, Martin Read wrote: On 17/11/14 12:25, Gian Uberto Lauri wrote: There were other poor design choices, it seems that Debian maintainers have fixed some of them (i.e. renaming network devices), other seems to be still there

Re: Joey Hess is out?

2014-11-17 Thread The Wanderer
On 11/17/2014 at 10:06 AM, Christian Seiler wrote: Am 2014-11-17 15:54, schrieb The Wanderer: On 11/17/2014 at 08:21 AM, Martin Read wrote: A default Debian jessie configuration has persistent text logs in /var/log written by rsyslog, and *volatile* binary logs in /run/log/journal

Re: Installing an Alternative Init?

2014-11-17 Thread Reco
Hi. On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 03:48:34PM +0100, Ludovic Meyer wrote: On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 09:41:23PM -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote: As much as I dislike systemd, I'm not sure that it's a vendor conspiracy to control the Linux ecosystem. Yes, redhat pays Lennart Poettering's salary (among

Re: Joey Hess is out?

2014-11-17 Thread Christian Seiler
Am 2014-11-17 16:15, schrieb The Wanderer: Part of what I found reassuring about the statements that Debian's default systemd configuration stores the journal's binary logs only in memory was the idea that it would not be (needing to) write the log data separately to the binary format, or

udev memory problem when trying to plug a disk with corrupted partition table

2014-11-17 Thread berenger . morel
Hello. I think most of my problem's description is in title, but here are some more informations. I have a hard disk on which I tried a... quite unusual... procedure to install another OS. My try in this procedure [1] did not went well at all, but it's not the subject of this mail. Now,

Re: Web site conformance and various browsers

2014-11-17 Thread Diogene Laerce
Hi, On 11/17/2014 02:45 PM, songbird wrote: sometimes i have issues with a website and i cannot tell if it is a problem with the browser or a problem with the website. obviously i am not a website developer so this sort of issue isn't clear where i need to poke at things more... are

Re: Web site conformance and various browsers

2014-11-17 Thread golinux
On Mon, 11/17/14, songbird songb...@anthive.com wrote: Subject: Web site conformance and various browsers To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Date: Monday, November 17, 2014, 7:45 AM sometimes i have issues with a website and i cannot tell if it is a problem with the browser or a problem with

apt-get update GPG error: Internal error: Good signature, but could not determine key fingerprint?!

2014-11-17 Thread iain
Hello all I am seeing a rather strange error. I have a wheezy VM which I am trying to update, but I get the above error on the main source and also on security source: W: GPG error: http://security.debian.org wheezy/updates Release: Internal error: Good signature, but could not determine

Re: Web site conformance and various browsers

2014-11-17 Thread berenger . morel
Le 17.11.2014 14:45, songbird a écrit : sometimes i have issues with a website and i cannot tell if it is a problem with the browser or a problem with the website. obviously i am not a website developer so this sort of issue isn't clear where i need to poke at things more... are there any

Re: qemu-kvm problem - libvirtd won't start

2014-11-17 Thread Gary Dale
On 16/11/14 09:31 PM, Joel Roth wrote: On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 08:52:30PM -0500, Gary Dale wrote: On 16/11/14 06:39 PM, Joel Roth wrote: Did you try starting the VMs directly using the qemu command? Don't have qemu installed. virsh reports: Maybe there is some connection (c.f. Subject:) qemu

Re: systemd for administrators, printable version.

2014-11-17 Thread Brian
On Mon 17 Nov 2014 at 15:29:21 +0100, Erwan David wrote: Is there a printable/epub/pdf version of systemd for administrators ? 20+ HTML pages is very difficult to read, just becaus it requires mouse movement. Even one only HTML page would be better. DIY. Save the pages to file, 1.pdf,

Re: apt-get update GPG error: Internal error: Good signature, but could not determine key fingerprint?!

2014-11-17 Thread Ansgar Burchardt
Hi, On 11/17/2014 05:26 PM, i...@thargoid.co.uk wrote: I am seeing a rather strange error. I have a wheezy VM which I am trying to update, but I get the above error on the main source and also on security source: W: GPG error: http://security.debian.org wheezy/updates Release: Internal

Re: apt-get update GPG error: Internal error: Good signature, but could not determine key fingerprint?!

2014-11-17 Thread iain
On 2014-11-17 17:02, Ansgar Burchardt wrote: Hi, On 11/17/2014 05:26 PM, i...@thargoid.co.uk wrote: I am seeing a rather strange error. I have a wheezy VM which I am trying to update, but I get the above error on the main source and also on security source: W: GPG error:

Re: udev memory problem when trying to plug a disk with corrupted partition table

2014-11-17 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Mon, 17 Nov 2014, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Now, fact is that the hard-disk partition table is no longer correct, and when I plug it (it is an USB HD) into a Debian system, it makes udev eating all my memory, and more. Please image the partition table so that someone can

Re: dm-crypt/LUKS performance

2014-11-17 Thread Tixy
On Sun, 2014-11-16 at 18:56 -0800, David Christensen wrote: That SSD appears to have hardware encryption. So, why dm-crypt? So you can copy/backup/move disks and partitions without worrying about whether you can get access to the result in the future? Because you don't want to trust or rely on

Re: apt-get update GPG error: Internal error: Good signature, but could not determine key fingerprint?!

2014-11-17 Thread iain
On 2014-11-17 17:05, i...@thargoid.co.uk wrote: On 2014-11-17 17:02, Ansgar Burchardt wrote: Hi, On 11/17/2014 05:26 PM, i...@thargoid.co.uk wrote: I am seeing a rather strange error. I have a wheezy VM which I am trying to update, but I get the above error on the main source and also on

Re: udev memory problem when trying to plug a disk with corrupted partition table

2014-11-17 Thread berenger . morel
Le 17.11.2014 17:55, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh a écrit : On Mon, 17 Nov 2014, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Now, fact is that the hard-disk partition table is no longer correct, and when I plug it (it is an USB HD) into a Debian system, it makes udev eating all my memory, and more.

Re: Web site conformance and various browsers

2014-11-17 Thread songbird
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: ... PS: when I think about how crappy all of this is, and that I remember that many people said me that websites runs in the same way everywhere, I just laugh. I try to remember it everyday, since there is a rumor which says that laughing 5min per day is

Re: Installing an Alternative Init?

2014-11-17 Thread Ludovic Meyer
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 06:29:24PM +0300, Reco wrote: Hi. On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 03:48:34PM +0100, Ludovic Meyer wrote: On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 09:41:23PM -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote: As much as I dislike systemd, I'm not sure that it's a vendor conspiracy to control the Linux

no C-h i m emacs ??

2014-11-17 Thread Harry Putnam
[NOTE: Originally miss-posted on ... emacs.help] , | From: Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com | Subject: no C-h i m emacs ?? | Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help | To: help-gnu-em...@gnu.org | Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2014 13:29:46 -0500 (2 minutes, 9 seconds ago) | Message-ID:

Re: udev memory problem when trying to plug a disk with corrupted partition table

2014-11-17 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Mon, 17 Nov 2014, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: So, what part of that disk should I extract, which could be usable and sharable? Partition table, of course, which is probably at disk's beginning, but how long might it be? That depends. What kind of partition table? -- One disk

Re: Joey Hess is out?

2014-11-17 Thread Eduard Bloch
Hallo, * Nate Bargmann [Mon, Nov 17 2014, 07:46:48AM]: Since systemd hatters usually fail on the second task, the rhetorical arsenal is chosen accordingly (ad-hominem, trolling, misquoting, ...). Here is the crux of the problem in these discussions and that is the use of haters as an ad

Re: engineering management practices and systemd (Re: Installing an Alternative Init?)

2014-11-17 Thread Ludovic Meyer
On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 08:29:28PM -0500, Marty wrote: On 11/16/2014 03:32 PM, Ludovic Meyer wrote: On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 01:05:08PM -0500, Marty wrote: snip My point is that in a modular design nothing should be so entrenched as to be irreplaceable. Absence of an alternate should not

Re: systemd for administrators, printable version.

2014-11-17 Thread Erwan David
Le 17/11/2014 17:39, Brian a écrit : On Mon 17 Nov 2014 at 15:29:21 +0100, Erwan David wrote: Is there a printable/epub/pdf version of systemd for administrators ? 20+ HTML pages is very difficult to read, just becaus it requires mouse movement. Even one only HTML page would be better.

Re: no C-h i m emacs ??

2014-11-17 Thread Don Armstrong
On Mon, 17 Nov 2014, Harry Putnam wrote: With emacs24-lucid installed, I can find no info files for emacs-24 They're in the emacs24-common-non-dfsg package, which is in non-free. -- Don Armstrong http://www.donarmstrong.com Maybe I did steal your heart and I am such a

Re: systemd for administrators, printable version.

2014-11-17 Thread Curt
On 2014-11-17, Erwan David er...@rail.eu.org wrote: Which would (in addition to being tedious) do an ugly job because of web pages decorations and the fact that a webpage does not map well on a pdf page. In iceweasal printing to file turns out a nice-looking pdf in my opinion. -- To

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