Re: How to upgrade packages held back?

On 9/13/19 1:29 PM, D Dimov wrote: Thanks David, that took care of it, but I don't understand why it didn't happen when I upgraded from debian 9 to 10, since I used dist-upgrade to upgrade to 10... That's interesting that you do only clean installs, thanks for your tips!Luben On

Re: Installation problem

On 9/13/19 4:45 PM, Anne wrote: Hi, I am new to debian and I can not seem to get the OS installed properly. What I have done so far is to Make a free space partition of 100GB on drive D and then 1. download the first DVD of 10.1.0 2. used rufus to put it on a thumb drive 3. Booted from the

Re: Peculiar terminology for gnupg2 options.

From: Ansgar Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2019 21:33:27 +0200 > The new default is self-sigs-only, the entry explains that one would > need to set "keyserver-options no-self-sigs-only" to revert to the > behavior of older versions of GnuPG. Thanks Ansgar. I should have been more alert when reading.

NVIDIA proprietary driver with linux-rt and Wayland

Hello everybody out there! I am using Debian 10: $ cat /etc/debian_version 10.1 I am running the real-time kernel from standard distribution repositories: $ uname -a Linux petra 5.2.0-0.bpo.2-rt-amd64 #1 SMP PREEMPT RT Debian 5.2.9-2~bpo10+1 (2019-08-25) x86_64 GNU/Linux

Re: Installation problem

On Fri, Sep 13, 2019, 6:55 PM Anne wrote: Hi, I am new to debian and I can not seem to get the OS installed properly. What I have done so far is to Make a free space partition of 100GB on drive D and then 1. download the first DVD of 10.1.0 2. used rufus to put it on a thumb drive 3. Booted

FFADO-mixer does not load - patch to fix bug

Hello everybody out there! I am using Debian 10: $ cat /etc/debian_version 10.1 I am using FFADO-mixer from standard distribution repositories: $ aptitude versions ffado-mixer-qt4 i 2.4.1-0.1 stable 900 I have experimented a

Re: When/how/why to use "sudo", "su" or "su -" -- was [Re: rocks n diamonds]

rhkramer writes: > When I used Windows, it was not multiuser. Which version? Win95 was MSDOS with a GUI stuck on with bubblegum. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA

Workaround for bug #874598 - Ardour: GUI doesn't load

Hello everybody out there! I am using Debian 10 : $ cat /etc/debian_version 10.1 I am using Ardour 5 from standard distribution repositories: $ aptitude versions ardour i 1:5.12.0-3stable 900 I have experimented bug #874598,

RE: 24-hour vs. 12-hour time, ambiguity, and abbreviations (was Re: Default date output format changed after an upgrade to buster)

Hi David, > Where would you use it? Why not just drop 12-hour times? > I don't think I've ever formatted a 12-hour time on a computer (unless you > want to count the example quoted below). > Yup, pretty much when we "send" time info to some when it is not life foce-to-face using a 12-hour

Installation problem

Hi, I am new to debian and I can not seem to get the OS installed properly. What I have done so far is to Make a free space partition of 100GB on drive D and then 1. download the first DVD of 10.1.0 2. used rufus to put it on a thumb drive 3. Booted from the thumb drive and selected "graphical

Re: When/how/why to use "sudo", "su" or "su -" -- was [Re: rocks n diamonds]

On Friday, September 13, 2019 11:44:25 AM Lee wrote: > On 9/13/19, Richard Owlett wrote: > > When I used Windows I was not a aware of permission issues be they root, > > owner, or group. > > You didn't share that machine? I shared a desktop PC with a middle > schooler that I didn't want acting

Re: attempted install of buster arm64 net-install on rp4 fails instantly

Gene Heskett wrote: > Keep me posted please. Assembled today and dd raspbian to the sd card. All worked fine. I am under pressure now, so I don't know when I can try the NFS root and debian. >From the experience with RPi2 it is much easier to do nfs when testing. But in general it is very nice

Re: buster netinst timezone

On Fri, Sep 13, 2019 at 10:41:24AM -0500, David Wright wrote: On Fri 13 Sep 2019 at 08:35:51 (-0400), Michael Stone wrote: I'm saying that /etc/timezone and /etc/localtime should be consistent and valid, in which case they both do the same thing. There isn't one that uses "the actual rules and

Re: How to upgrade packages held back?

On 9/13/19 12:49 PM, D Dimov wrote: I upgraded to Debian 10, but 750 or so packages were held back. I read that i can try running apt-get --with-new-pkgs upgrade, which I did, but I still have 278 that are held back (listed below). Tried apt-get install , but they are still held back. How do

Re: When/how/why to use "sudo", "su" or "su -" -- was [Re: rocks n diamonds]

> Do you have any problem with my statement: >> Today Linux is being used by an individual who is the _only_ >> user of a standalone system (e.g. laptop). Permission issues >> are much more intuitive in the Unix world than for a single >> user/owner of a laptop. I do: "Linux" is many different

Re: Default date output format changed after an upgrade to buster

> And the only solution to Zeno's Paradox that I've been able to identify > relies on the notion that space and time are not infinitely > subdivisible. Really? I thought the solution is that while the distance is divided at each step, the time between each step is also divided, so you end up

Re: 24-hour vs. 12-hour time, ambiguity, and abbreviations (was Re: Default date output format changed after an upgrade to buster)

>> >> It seems intuitively obvious to me that between 11:59 Ante-Meridiem and >> >> 12:01 Post-Meridiem must lie 12:00 Meridiem. (Though 12:00:01 - one >> >> second later - would be Post-Meridiem again.) In my interpretation of this part of the world, it's never exactly noon nor exactly midnight:

Re: Peculiar terminology for gnupg2 options.

Hi, pe...@easthope.ca writes: > A current update gives this note. > "gnupg2 (2.2.12-1+deb10u1) buster; urgency=medium > ... default to self-sigs-only. > ... > keyserver-options no-self-sigs-only" > > If the default is self-sigs-only why is the option set to no-self-sigs-only? The new

Re: Is Linux a single-user system ? was: When/how/why to use "sudo", "su" or "su -"

> What about the really big iron ? The heck with mainframes. Back in the 1990s I had PC-based Debian boxes with users working on dumb terminals hooked up to the PC via serial cables. That certainly seemed "multi-user" to us and it didn't require big iron. -- "There’s class warfare, all

Re: HOSTALIASES ne fonctionne pas sur debian?

salut Daniel et merci pour ta réponse détaillée, > Pour ce besoin, j'utilise mon résolveur local (unbound), avec > - la liste `host ip` dans un /etc/unbound/hosts.list > - un /root/bin/refresh_unbound_local_zone.sh qui génère > un /etc/unbound/unbound.conf.d/local.conf et recharge unbound si

Peculiar terminology for gnupg2 options.

Hi, A current update gives this note. "gnupg2 (2.2.12-1+deb10u1) buster; urgency=medium ... default to self-sigs-only. ... keyserver-options no-self-sigs-only" If the default is self-sigs-only why is the option set to no-self-sigs-only? Also, self-sigs-only might be called

Re: Is Linux a single-user system ? was: When/how/why to use "sudo", "su" or "su -"

Richard Owlett wrote: > Do you have any problem with my statement: Today Linux is being used > by an individual who is the _only_ user of a standalone system > (e.g. laptop). The natural person hammering on the keyboard is not the only "user". Daemons are users too, and permissions are the

Re: Is Linux a single-user system ? was: When/how/why to use "sudo", "su" or "su -"

On Fri, 2019-09-13 at 16:56 +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, > > Richard Owlett wrote: > > Do you have any problem with my statement: > > > Today Linux is being used by an individual who is the _only_ > > > user of a standalone system (e.g. laptop). > > What about the really big iron ? >

Re: Default date output format changed after an upgrade to buster

On 2019-09-13 at 12:05, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Fri, Sep 13, 2019 at 10:44:42AM -0500, David Wright wrote: > >> But time is continuous. > > Maybe. Quantum mechanics still holds some secrets we haven't > learned. And the only solution to Zeno's Paradox that I've been able to identify relies

Re: 24-hour vs. 12-hour time, ambiguity, and abbreviations (was Re: Default date output format changed after an upgrade to buster)

On 2019-09-13 at 11:50, David Wright wrote: > On Thu 12 Sep 2019 at 23:14:52 (-0400), The Wanderer wrote: > >> On 2019-09-12 at 21:49, David Wright wrote: >>> I don't see a need for a one-letter abbreviation for midnight, nor the >>> wisdom in introducing one that's already used in the same

Re: Default date output format changed after an upgrade to buster

On Fri, Sep 13, 2019 at 10:44:42AM -0500, David Wright wrote: > But time is continuous. Maybe. Quantum mechanics still holds some secrets we haven't learned.

Re: HOSTALIASES ne fonctionne pas sur debian?

Le 13/09/19 à 15h46, Marc Chantreux a écrit : > > Pour ssh ou mosh, je configurerais plutôt des fichiers spécifiques (par > > exemple sous ~/.ssh) > > précisément: je me plante régulièrement parceque ssh, scp, rsync, git et > toutes ces commandes qui sous-traitent à ssh marchent bien mais qu'à

Re: 24-hour vs. 12-hour time, ambiguity, and abbreviations (was Re: Default date output format changed after an upgrade to buster)

On Thu 12 Sep 2019 at 23:14:52 (-0400), The Wanderer wrote: > On 2019-09-12 at 21:49, David Wright wrote: > > On Thu 12 Sep 2019 at 12:42:01 (-0400), The Wanderer wrote: > >> On 2019-09-12 at 12:03, David Wright wrote: > > >>> It might be ambiguous if m were also an abbreviation for midnight, >

Re: Default date output format changed after an upgrade to buster

On Thu 12 Sep 2019 at 22:16:45 (-0500), John Hasler wrote: > David Wright writes: > > Odd that they decided to employ that logic in the 21st century after > > (most) clocks had ceased to tick. > > All clocks tick. "Tick" no longer means "emit a noise once per second" > in modern chronometry.

Re: buster netinst timezone

On Fri, Sep 13, 2019 at 10:41:24AM -0500, David Wright wrote: > On Fri 13 Sep 2019 at 08:35:51 (-0400), Michael Stone wrote: > > I'm saying that /etc/timezone and /etc/localtime should be consistent > > and valid, in which case they both do the same thing. > Perhaps we'll just have to beg to

Re: When/how/why to use "sudo", "su" or "su -" -- was [Re: rocks n diamonds]

On 9/13/19, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 09/13/2019 03:30 AM, Paul Sutton wrote: >> [snip] >> >> I have it working now after using the su - thing, well it wasn't a copy >> / paste issue here but you do raise a good point there. >> >> Thanks to everyone for their help, would be good to figure out

Re: buster netinst timezone

On Fri 13 Sep 2019 at 08:35:51 (-0400), Michael Stone wrote: > On Sun, Sep 01, 2019 at 08:32:56PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > > On Wed 28 Aug 2019 at 14:08:47 (-0400), Michael Stone wrote: > > > On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 12:25:32PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > > > > On Mon 12 Aug 2019 at 08:38:47

[chouette c'est vendredi] était Re: Avis sur imprimante/scanner/photocopieur

'lut, Je reflechis depuis quelques temps a me faire euthanasier Malheureux - et nous le sommes tous en ce moment- ne fais pas! On peut résister, il existe des tas de choses à faire, et notamment dans nos domaines dits high-tech. Résister et lutter et puis peut-être un jour gagner. Gagner

Re: Is Linux a single-user system ? was: When/how/why to use "sudo", "su" or "su -"

Hi, Richard Owlett wrote: > Do you have any problem with my statement: > > Today Linux is being used by an individual who is the _only_ > > user of a standalone system (e.g. laptop). What about the really big iron ? "Linux Runs on All of the Top 500 Supercomputers, Again!" (June 2019)

Re: When/how/why to use "sudo", "su" or "su -" -- was [Re: rocks n diamonds]

On 09/13/2019 09:29 AM, John Hasler wrote: Richard Owlett writes: Unix was a response to the needs of a large data center with possibly thousands of users. No it wasn't. Unix was a response to Multics, which *was* aimed at systems with thousands of users. If you want to see a truly complex

Re: Dnsmasq: interdire /etc/hosts aux requètes provenant d'un VLAN particulier

Le 13/09/2019 à 16:18, Olivier a écrit : Bonjour, Une question toute simple: j'ai une machine sous Debian Stretch avec deux interfaces eth0 et eth0.123 Comment faire pour qu' 1. aux requètes reçues via eth0, Dnsmasq réponde en consultant un fichier /etc/hosts puis le serveur 1.1.1.1 2. aux

Re: When/how/why to use "sudo", "su" or "su -" -- was [Re: rocks n diamonds]

Richard Owlett writes: > Unix was a response to the needs of a large data center with possibly > thousands of users. No it wasn't. Unix was a response to Multics, which *was* aimed at systems with thousands of users. If you want to see a truly complex system of permissions and access controls

Dnsmasq: interdire /etc/hosts aux requètes provenant d'un VLAN particulier

Bonjour, Une question toute simple: j'ai une machine sous Debian Stretch avec deux interfaces eth0 et eth0.123 Comment faire pour qu' 1. aux requètes reçues via eth0, Dnsmasq réponde en consultant un fichier /etc/hosts puis le serveur 1.1.1.1 2. aux requètes reçues via eth0.123, Dnsmasq réponde

Re: Avis sur imprimante/scanner/photocopieur

Le ven. 13 sept. 2019 à 15:58, Stephane Ascoet a écrit : > > Le 11/09/2019 à 22:33, Basile Starynkevitch a écrit : > > Et toi Stéphane, tu es (d'après ta signature) un authentique universitaire. > > Bonjour, mais pas un chercheur, juste un simple technicien informatique. > > > des proches

Re: batterie sous openbox et compression video sous linux ?

Bonjour et merci pour l'info sur apt. Je vais télécharger et tester xbattbar mais voir également si avec bash je peux progammer en fenêtre xterm un simple affiche périodique de acpi ou avce l'iade de acpid. Encore merci pour l'aide. -- Sent from:

Re: Avis sur imprimante/scanner/photocopieur

Le 11/09/2019 à 22:33, Basile Starynkevitch a écrit : Et toi Stéphane, tu es (d'après ta signature) un authentique universitaire. Bonjour, mais pas un chercheur, juste un simple technicien informatique. des proches collègues) qui pourrais avoir envie de te suicider sur ton lieu de travail,

Re: HOSTALIASES ne fonctionne pas sur debian?

salut Didier, > avertissement habituel: le réseau et moi ça fait deux... ben la stack réseau de linux est un peu devenu une usine à gaze pour moi... par contre j'utilise maintenant Gnome et NetworkManager et il faut bien avouer que dans la grande majorité des cas, ca juste marche. > Je suppose

Re: HOSTALIASES ne fonctionne pas sur debian?

salut Basile, > Ca pourrait être lié à /etc/nsswitch.conf voir nnswitch.conf(5) > sauf que je disais dans mon message initial que $ grep -H '^hosts' /etc/nsswitch.conf /etc/nsswitch.conf:hosts: files mdns4_minimal

Re: rocks n diamonds

On 2019-09-13, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > And certainly many more, but that's all I could find in a minute or so > with Google. The problem is, most of the relevant threads have unrelated > Subject headers, like "rocks n diamonds". Which is not the OP's fault -- > it's just the way it ends up

Re: rocks n diamonds

On Fri, 13 Sep 2019 08:44:55 -0400 Greg Wooledge wrote: Hello Greg, >The problem is, most of the relevant threads have unrelated >Subject headers, like "rocks n diamonds". Which is not the OP's fault Good point, well made. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is

Re: 24-hour vs. 12-hour time, ambiguity, and abbreviations (was Re: Default date output format changed after an upgrade to buster)

The Wanderer writes: >Why do people abbreviate "AM" and "PM" when speaking out loud? They don't know what AM and PM are abbreviations of. They think of AM and PM as words. But I'm referring to abreviations for "noon" and "midnight", which take less time to say than "12 PM" and "12 AM", or even

Re: rocks n diamonds

On Fri, Sep 13, 2019 at 09:45:41AM +0100, Brad Rogers wrote: > On Fri, 13 Sep 2019 09:30:46 +0100 > 'su' inherits the current environment ($PATH, etc.) > > 'su -' creates a new environment (based on user you're su-ing to [not > always root]) > > This is a change from previous behaviour

Re: buster netinst timezone

On Sun, Sep 01, 2019 at 08:32:56PM -0500, David Wright wrote: On Wed 28 Aug 2019 at 14:08:47 (-0400), Michael Stone wrote: On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 12:25:32PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > On Mon 12 Aug 2019 at 08:38:47 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: > > The first one is the /etc/timezone file,

Re: HOSTALIASES ne fonctionne pas sur debian?

avertissement habituel: le réseau et moi ça fait deux... mais la page man de gethostbyname(3) indique que la fonction, bien que toujours disponible, a été remplacée par getnameinfo(3) dont on conseille l'usage. Je suppose qu'en interne lors de tes essais, c'est la nouvelle fonction et pas

Re: HOSTALIASES ne fonctionne pas sur debian?

Ca pourrait être lié à /etc/nsswitch.conf voir nnswitch.conf(5) Pour ssh ou mosh, je configurerais plutôt des fichiers spécifiques (par exemple sous ~/.ssh) Enfin, la libc est tellement centrale, qu'il y a plein de caches

When/how/why to use "sudo", "su" or "su -" -- was [Re: rocks n diamonds]

On 09/13/2019 03:30 AM, Paul Sutton wrote: [snip] I have it working now after using the su - thing, well it wasn't a copy / paste issue here but you do raise a good point there. Thanks to everyone for their help, would be good to figure out why things like this happen. If I put my average

HOSTALIASES ne fonctionne pas sur debian?

salut à tous, sur ma machine, j'ai un /etc/hosts avec plein d'alias perso dedans (en bombinant avec les hosts ssh, c'est merveilleux d'éfficacité et de mémoire). c'est une pratique que je m'interdis sur des machines qui sont co-gérées et cette discipline est pénible. sauf que cette semaine, je

Re: rocks n diamonds

On Fri, 13 Sep 2019 09:30:46 +0100 Paul Sutton wrote: Hello Paul, >Thanks to everyone for their help, would be good to figure out why >things like this happen. 'su' inherits the current environment ($PATH, etc.) 'su -' creates a new environment (based on user you're su-ing to [not always

Re: rocks n diamonds

On 13/09/2019 09:25, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > Quoting Paul Sutton (2019-09-13 09:27:58) >> Hi >> >> Just tried to run the rocksndiamonds games >> entering this at the command line gives. >> Run `dpkg-reconfigure rocksndiamonds' as root >> to install/update game levels. > > What is the output

Re: rocks n diamonds

Quoting Paul Sutton (2019-09-13 09:27:58) > Hi > > Just tried to run the rocksndiamonds games > entering this at the command line gives. > Run `dpkg-reconfigure rocksndiamonds' as root > to install/update game levels. What is the output of this command?: apt list rocksndiamonds > Once I

Re: rocks n diamonds

On 2019-09-13, Paul Sutton wrote: > > Once I have run su to get to root I try and run > > dpkg-reconfigure rocksndiamonds > and get > bash: dpkg-reconfigure: command not found > > can anyone suggest what is wrong please, I can only guess you've done a 'su' rather than 'su -' in becoming root. >

Re: rocks n diamonds

On Fri, 13 Sep 2019 08:27:58 +0100 Paul Sutton wrote: Hello Paul, >can anyone suggest what is wrong please, Yes: you need to 'su -', not 'su' -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent" Life goes quick and it goes

Re: rocks n diamonds

On 13/09/2019 08:40, Alberto Luaces wrote: > Alberto Luaces writes: > >> Paul Sutton writes: >> >>> dpkg-reconfigure rocksndiamonds >> >> Can you add "sudo" or become root for that? I am running the above as su (root) I don't want to spend hours faffing around and struggling to set up sudo.

Re: rocks n diamonds

Alberto Luaces writes: > Paul Sutton writes: > >> dpkg-reconfigure rocksndiamonds > > Can you add "sudo" or become root for that? Well, and also check the installation of the debconf package? -- Alberto

Re: rocks n diamonds

Paul Sutton writes: > dpkg-reconfigure rocksndiamonds Can you add "sudo" or become root for that? -- Alberto

rocks n diamonds

Hi Just tried to run the rocksndiamonds games entering this at the command line gives. Run `dpkg-reconfigure rocksndiamonds' as root to install/update game levels. Once I have run su to get to root I try and run dpkg-reconfigure rocksndiamonds and get bash: dpkg-reconfigure: command not found

Re: Display resolution 3840x2160@24rb stopped working after Upgrade from Stretch to Buster

Thanks to everybody, for all the hints. I think the way to search in, is to create an edid file and load it at boot. I searched in this direction before, I just abandoned that way because it did not work. Now the question I have is: How to create that edid file. The tool I found creates a file

Re: apt-offline

Hello Paul, On Thu, 2019-09-12 at 13:36 -0400, Paul Thomas wrote: > Hello, > > I see that apt-offline is not part of buster. Is there any plan to > add it? > It is currently out of Buster (and Debian Testing) because of bug: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=871656 I have