Re: Debian and FSF docs

2021-12-10 Thread tomas
On Fri, Dec 10, 2021 at 10:09:39PM -0600, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > On Fri, Dec 10, 2021, 6:40 PM Stefan Monnier > wrote: [...] > > Both side have (and will) adjust their acts based on practical > > considerations, so fundamental disagreements on some details *can* be > > overcome if

Re: strange problem with usb wifi adapter

2021-12-10 Thread tomas
On Sat, Dec 11, 2021 at 05:33:05AM +, Long Wind wrote: > buster installer can configure my usb wifi adapter without non-freeware > it works well after installation, i install many packages by wifi > i shutdown and power disconnect from pc > then power return and i boot buster, > buster can't

Re: DHCP server for other site

2021-12-10 Thread john doe
On 12/10/2021 6:45 PM, Bonno Bloksma wrote: Hi, I want to move my DHCP servers to my datacenter as I am going to shut down the hypervisor hosts on some locations. [...] And as that is the only interface for the VM the dhcp software wil fail to start. So my solution was to add a few lines

Re: changed file while editing

2021-12-10 Thread David Christensen
On 12/10/21 7:44 PM, mick crane wrote: On 2021-12-11 03:07, David Wright wrote: On Fri 10 Dec 2021 at 22:37:22 (+), mick crane wrote: hello please excuse basic lack of understanding. I try to write some program in Perl I would find useful. Use of editing is very basic and usually I get by

Re: I'm getting a dependencies error when trying to install roundcube 1.5.1 on my bullseye machine

2021-12-10 Thread Tim Woodall
On Sat, 11 Dec 2021, Steve Dondley wrote: I've not used apt to install packages from files but can you put ../roundcube*.deb? You need to install both roundcube and roundcube-core from your local build. If mt first suggestion doesn't work, try installing roundcube-core first. If you

Re: telling if we've actually booted from /boot/xen-4.14-amd64.gz

2021-12-10 Thread Tim Woodall
On Fri, 10 Dec 2021, Charles Curley wrote: On Fri, 10 Dec 2021 22:11:04 + (GMT) Tim Woodall wrote: Is there a good way to do what I want (which is to avoid missing an automatic upgrade and then not rebooting for months)? If you are using the unattended-upgrades package, you can set it

Re: I'm getting a dependencies error when trying to install roundcube 1.5.1 on my bullseye machine

2021-12-10 Thread Steve Dondley
I've not used apt to install packages from files but can you put ../roundcube*.deb? You need to install both roundcube and roundcube-core from your local build. If mt first suggestion doesn't work, try installing roundcube-core first. If you haven't built roundcube-core then you need to

Re: I'm getting a dependencies error when trying to install roundcube 1.5.1 on my bullseye machine

2021-12-10 Thread Tim Woodall
On Fri, 10 Dec 2021, Steve Dondley wrote: I'm running bullseye with roundcube version 1.4.11 currently installed. I am trying to upgrade to version 1.5.1. I followed the instructions at "SimpleBackportCreation" at https://wiki.debian.org/SimpleBackportCreation Everything went fine until

I'm getting a dependencies error when trying to install roundcube 1.5.1 on my bullseye machine

2021-12-10 Thread Steve Dondley
I'm running bullseye with roundcube version 1.4.11 currently installed. I am trying to upgrade to version 1.5.1. I followed the instructions at "SimpleBackportCreation" at https://wiki.debian.org/SimpleBackportCreation Everything went fine until the very last step: === $ sudo

Re: Clarification Re: Customizing Grub menus

2021-12-10 Thread David Wright
On Thu 09 Dec 2021 at 09:09:42 (-0600), Richard Owlett wrote: > On 12/08/2021 06:33 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: > > I have a machine set aside for experimenting with different > > configurations of Debian. The default Grub2 menu will display > > OS(with version) and partition designation in

Re: Debian and FSF docs

2021-12-10 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
On Fri, Dec 10, 2021, 6:40 PM Stefan Monnier wrote: > > Well the difference in views between the two is different at a > fundamental > > level. So neither side accepts the others' view as fundamentally > compatible > > on the main issue: what is free software, of any species? > > Both side have

Re: changed file while editing

2021-12-10 Thread mick crane
On 2021-12-11 03:07, David Wright wrote: On Fri 10 Dec 2021 at 22:37:22 (+), mick crane wrote: hello please excuse basic lack of understanding. I try to write some program in Perl I would find useful. Use of editing is very basic and usually I get by with vi/vim recently I try to get used

Re: telling if we've actually booted from /boot/xen-4.14-amd64.gz

2021-12-10 Thread Charles Curley
On Fri, 10 Dec 2021 22:11:04 + (GMT) Tim Woodall wrote: > Is there a good way to do what I want (which is to avoid missing an > automatic upgrade and then not rebooting for months)? If you are using the unattended-upgrades package, you can set it to send you emails. Those emails will let

Re: changed file while editing

2021-12-10 Thread David Wright
On Fri 10 Dec 2021 at 22:37:22 (+), mick crane wrote: > hello > please excuse basic lack of understanding. > I try to write some program in Perl I would find useful. > Use of editing is very basic and usually I get by with vi/vim > recently I try to get used to Nano. > In another virtual

RE: DHCP server for other site

2021-12-10 Thread Bonno Bloksma
Hi, > I want to move my DHCP servers to my datacenter as I am going to shut down > the hypervisor hosts on some locations. [...] > And as that is the only interface for the VM the dhcp software wil fail to > start. > So my solution was to add a few lines to the config > shared-network

Re: changed file while editing

2021-12-10 Thread mick crane
On 2021-12-11 01:10, David Christensen wrote: On 12/10/21 2:37 PM, mick crane wrote: hello please excuse basic lack of understanding. I try to write some program in Perl I would find useful. Use of editing is very basic and usually I get by with vi/vim recently I try to get used to Nano. In

Re: changed file while editing

2021-12-10 Thread mick crane
On 2021-12-11 01:10, David Christensen wrote: On 12/10/21 2:37 PM, mick crane wrote: hello please excuse basic lack of understanding. I try to write some program in Perl I would find useful. Use of editing is very basic and usually I get by with vi/vim recently I try to get used to Nano. In

Re: changed file while editing

2021-12-10 Thread David Christensen
On 12/10/21 2:37 PM, mick crane wrote: hello please excuse basic lack of understanding. I try to write some program in Perl I would find useful. Use of editing is very basic and usually I get by with vi/vim recently I try to get used to Nano. In another virtual terminal if copy one file to

Re: Reasonably simple setup for 1TB HDD and 250GB M.2 NVMe SSD

2021-12-10 Thread Charles Curley
On Fri, 10 Dec 2021 08:26:24 -0500 Dan Ritter wrote: > Many laptops never need to go to disk-stored suspension; a low-power > sleep mode is all they need to get through to the next power point. > For the cases where it is necessary, it should be as reliable as > possible. Perhaps. But one

Re: upgrade - packages have been kept back

2021-12-10 Thread teamaster
On Fri, 10 Dec 2021 23:57:44 +0100 Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Vi, 10 dec 21, 23:39:30, teamas...@mad-hatters-teatime.teanet.org > wrote: > > > > in 2 things i am pretty sure, my first mail only john doe read > > completely, and a dist-upgrade will not work with this > > non-standard-debian. >

Re: Debian and FSF docs

2021-12-10 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
On Fri, Dec 10, 2021, 12:01 PM Stefan Monnier wrote: > >> > I find this state of affair rather sad and am disappointed by both > >> > Debian and the FSF for not finding a compromise. It ends up promoting > >> > the use of the non-free repository, which I think neither project > wants. > > It's

Re: upgrade - packages have been kept back

2021-12-10 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 10 dec 21, 23:39:30, teamas...@mad-hatters-teatime.teanet.org wrote: > > in 2 things i am pretty sure, my first mail only john doe read > completely, and a dist-upgrade will not work with this > non-standard-debian. Based on the limited information you provided in your mail `apt-get

Re: upgrade - packages have been kept back

2021-12-10 Thread teamaster
On Fri, 10 Dec 2021 17:41:47 + (GMT) Tim Woodall wrote: > On Fri, 10 Dec 2021, teamas...@mad-hatters-teatime.teanet.org wrote: > > > On Thu, 9 Dec 2021 23:09:34 + > > "Andrew M.A. Cater" wrote: > > > >> On Thu, Dec 09, 2021 at 11:58:33PM +0100, > >>

changed file while editing

2021-12-10 Thread mick crane
hello please excuse basic lack of understanding. I try to write some program in Perl I would find useful. Use of editing is very basic and usually I get by with vi/vim recently I try to get used to Nano. In another virtual terminal if copy one file to another or something, the command line words

telling if we've actually booted from /boot/xen-4.14-amd64.gz

2021-12-10 Thread Tim Woodall
Is there a simple way to tell if the kernel/hypervisor that was used to boot is the one currently installed in /boot. I have a script that emails me when it detects a mismatch and it's broken with the latest bullseye xen hypervisor. I was grepping for major.minor.release (from

Re: Problème de lenteur sur un réseau local

2021-12-10 Thread Fab
Bonjour, Une chose m'échappe : s'agit-il d'un hub (concentrateur) ou d'un switch (commutateur) ? Le fonctionnement n'est pas le même et sur un hub, certains soucis peuvent prendre d'importantes proportions. Y-a-t-il une machine sous Linux sur ton réseau ? La commande "arpwatch" pourrait

Re: xorriso

2021-12-10 Thread hubble
On Fri, 10 Dec 2021 14:35:07 + Guillermo Sosa wrote: > Buen dìa. Estoy tratando de reconstruir una iso de debian live, segùn el > archivo /.disk/mkisofs el comando serìa el siguiente; > > xorriso -outdev > /external/out/free/amd64/iso-hybrid.tmp/debian-live-11.1.0-amd64-xfce.iso > -volid

Re: Update Debian 9 to 10

2021-12-10 Thread piorunz
On 10/12/2021 16:24, Thanos Katsiolis wrote: I verified that Debian 10.10 was installed , ran cleaning commands, reboot again but again I can only access ttys and not the Graphical Interface. What DE you are using? 1. Check if your DE is still installed. dpkg -l | grep /your-de/name/ 2.

Re: Update Debian 9 to 10

2021-12-10 Thread Thanos Katsiolis
So I have to install a Desktop Environment. I am thinking of using tasksel to install GNOME. Thank you for your help.

Re: Update Debian 9 to 10

2021-12-10 Thread Thanos Katsiolis
I though about that too, that the video card somehow could have affected the update somehow regarding DE. The VGA compatible controller entry of lspci is NVIDIA Corporation GP107GL [Quadro P400] (rev a1) I don't remember anything about firmware during the installation. On Fri, Dec 10, 2021 at

Re: Can you help me?

2021-12-10 Thread Jeremy Ardley
On 10/12/21 10:46 pm, deloptes wrote: Jeremy Ardley wrote: Plug in a different monitor. If it's dim as well then it is a computer software/hardware problem. If not it's a monitor problem which can usually be fixed by swapping out the monitor power supply capacitors. Yes sure, I have a PC

Re: upgrade - packages have been kept back

2021-12-10 Thread Tim Woodall
On Fri, 10 Dec 2021, teamas...@mad-hatters-teatime.teanet.org wrote: On Thu, 9 Dec 2021 23:09:34 + "Andrew M.A. Cater" wrote: On Thu, Dec 09, 2021 at 11:58:33PM +0100, teamas...@mad-hatters-teatime.teanet.org wrote: hey, i have not been using debian for long and not sure how to proceed

Re: Debian and FSF docs (was: Man pages for gcc)

2021-12-10 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 10 dec 21, 17:17:24, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > On Fri, Dec 10, 2021 at 12:41:01PM +0100, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > At the very least Debian could split non-free into sections or add more > > areas (non-free firmware being another obvious candidate for splitting > > out). > > > > Do

Re: Update Debian 9 to 10

2021-12-10 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 10 dec 21, 18:24:19, Thanos Katsiolis wrote: > Thank you both for your replies. > > I managed to complete the installation (run also apt full-upgrade > successfully) and then reboot. > After the update the system boots only with the ttys (1-6) and not with a > graphical interface, and by

Re: Debian and FSF docs (was: Man pages for gcc)

2021-12-10 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Fri, Dec 10, 2021 at 12:41:01PM +0100, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Du, 31 oct 21, 17:37:10, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > > This is because GNU releases their documentation under a different license > > > than their source code. And Debian considers the GNU documentation > > > license to be

Re: Update Debian 9 to 10

2021-12-10 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Fri, Dec 10, 2021 at 06:24:19PM +0200, Thanos Katsiolis wrote: > Thank you both for your replies. > > I managed to complete the installation (run also apt full-upgrade > successfully) and then reboot. > After the update the system boots only with the ttys (1-6) and not with a > graphical

Re: Update Debian 9 to 10

2021-12-10 Thread Thanos Katsiolis
Thank you both for your replies. I managed to complete the installation (run also apt full-upgrade successfully) and then reboot. After the update the system boots only with the ttys (1-6) and not with a graphical interface, and by that I mean that I tried to change to the graphical interface

Re: How to secure access to SD cards a la USBGuard?

2021-12-10 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 06 dec 21, 10:18:49, David Wright wrote: > On Sun 05 Dec 2021 at 13:33:41 (+0100), Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > On Vi, 12 nov 21, 12:27:59, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > > > > > As mentioned, the way to control it will depend on the specific tool > > > used to mount. E.g. if it's mounted by hand

Re: grijze desktop, geen items

2021-12-10 Thread Floris Renaud
On Friday 10 December 2021 15:51:53 (+01:00), Ernst van der Storm wrote: > Dank voor de reacties, hier enkele antwoorden: > > ernstvds@buster:~$ set | grep DESKTOP > DESKTOP_SESSION=lightdm-xsession > XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP=XFCE > XDG_SESSION_DESKTOP=lightdm-xsession > > en cat

Re: [SOLVED] Firefox + Thunderbird upstream solution

2021-12-10 Thread Tixy
On Fri, 2021-12-10 at 15:45 +, piorunz wrote: > On 10/12/2021 15:27, Tixy wrote: > > > Will Firefox be able to update itself with security updates? > > One HowTo on the web I saw said to change permissions of files > > extracted from the tarball to allow this, (using chmod 755). Though to > >

Re: [SOLVED] Firefox + Thunderbird upstream solution

2021-12-10 Thread piorunz
On 10/12/2021 15:27, Tixy wrote: Will Firefox be able to update itself with security updates? One HowTo on the web I saw said to change permissions of files extracted from the tarball to allow this, (using chmod 755). Though to me, it seems that wouldn't help without changing the owner too,

Re: [SOLVED] Firefox + Thunderbird upstream solution

2021-12-10 Thread Tixy
On Fri, 2021-12-10 at 13:48 +, piorunz wrote: [...] > Run instructions below each time there is new upstream version of > Firefox or Thunderbird: > /cd opt > sudo wget -O firefox.tar.bz2 > "https://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-esr-latest=linux64=en-GB; > sudo tar vxf firefox.tar.bz2 >

Re: grijze desktop, geen items

2021-12-10 Thread Ernst van der Storm
Dank  voor de reacties, hier enkele antwoorden: ernstvds@buster:~$ set | grep DESKTOP DESKTOP_SESSION=lightdm-xsession XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP=XFCE XDG_SESSION_DESKTOP=lightdm-xsession en  cat /etc/debian_version 10.10 Het Bureaublad is nog steeds ~/Bureaublad/ rechtermuis doet niets op dat grijze

Re: unkown root password and mkdir problem.

2021-12-10 Thread Michael Castellon
for superuser: su regards. On Fri, Dec 10, 2021 at 4:14 AM Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Vi, 05 nov 21, 19:17:11, Thomas George wrote: > > > > I have used sudo successfully with many commands including mkdir but sudo > > tar fails to uncompress files because it cannot make the necessary > >

Re: Can you help me?

2021-12-10 Thread deloptes
Jeremy Ardley wrote: > Plug in a different monitor. If it's dim as well then it is a computer > software/hardware problem. If not it's a monitor problem which can > usually be fixed by swapping out the monitor power supply capacitors. Yes sure, I have a PC store and 5 monitors to choose from :/

Re: [SOLVED] Firefox + Thunderbird upstream solution

2021-12-10 Thread Michael Castellon
 On Fri, Dec 10, 2021 at 5:49 AM piorunz wrote: > My new manual - put together thanks to you guys here on this mailing > list. Thanks to all of you . Now I run newest Thunderbird, and newest > Firefox ESR, both with firejail just like before. I will wait for Debian > versions to appear, I

xorriso

2021-12-10 Thread Guillermo Sosa
Buen dìa. Estoy tratando de reconstruir una iso de debian live, segùn el archivo /.disk/mkisofs el comando serìa el siguiente; xorriso -outdev /external/out/free/amd64/iso-hybrid.tmp/debian-live-11.1.0-amd64-xfce.iso -volid d-live 11.1.0 xf amd64 -padding 0 -compliance no_emul_toc -map

Re: Why can I not uninstall this package? (fwd)

2021-12-10 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 19 nov 21, 19:19:42, Tim Woodall wrote: > > I shall work through the full list of manually installed packages > flipping those I don't explicitly want to auto - that might find some > more that should be removed too. You might also want to set AutoRemove::SuggestsImportant "false";

Re: Problème de lenteur sur un réseau local

2021-12-10 Thread François TOURDE
Le 18970ième jour après Epoch, Billard François-Marie écrivait: > Ce matin gros ralentissement sur le réseau, sans avoir eu beaucoup de > temps a y consacrer de simples ping me renvois des requêtes hors > délai, mais de manière aléatoire. Tu peux donner un exemple et des valeurs pour le ou les

[SOLVED] Firefox + Thunderbird upstream solution

2021-12-10 Thread piorunz
My new manual - put together thanks to you guys here on this mailing list. Thanks to all of you . Now I run newest Thunderbird, and newest Firefox ESR, both with firejail just like before. I will wait for Debian versions to appear, I keep them installed, but I won't hold my breath. My TB & Fx

Re: How to cause a process started in .xsessionrc to terminate with x-session termination?

2021-12-10 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 22 nov 21, 11:39:46, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > That's as far as I got. If the OP wants to try writing a systemd --user > unit file for their unison thingy, and see if that starts and stops in > a way that they find acceptable, that would be a cool experiment. It's a good way to run

Re: Reasonably simple setup for 1TB HDD and 250GB M.2 NVMe SSD

2021-12-10 Thread Dan Ritter
Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Vi, 10 dec 21, 07:21:37, Dan Ritter wrote: > > Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > On Jo, 09 dec 21, 09:46:26, Dan Ritter wrote: > > > > > > > > In a more perfect world, the space for suspension would not > > > > otherwise be treated as swap space. > > > > > > It still has

Re: How to cause a process started in .xsessionrc to terminate with x-session termination?

2021-12-10 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 23 nov 21, 09:28:39, David Wright wrote: > On Tue 23 Nov 2021 at 07:51:32 (-0500), Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 23, 2021 at 12:05:37PM +, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > > > On Mon, Nov 22, 2021 at 11:39:46AM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > > I don't know the exact time that I

Re: upgrade - packages have been kept back

2021-12-10 Thread teamaster
On Fri, 10 Dec 2021 09:15:40 +0100 john doe wrote: > On 12/10/2021 9:04 AM, teamas...@mad-hatters-teatime.teanet.org wrote: > > On Thu, 9 Dec 2021 23:09:34 + > > "Andrew M.A. Cater" wrote: > > > >> On Thu, Dec 09, 2021 at 11:58:33PM +0100, > >> teamas...@mad-hatters-teatime.teanet.org

Re: Reasonably simple setup for 1TB HDD and 250GB M.2 NVMe SSD

2021-12-10 Thread Darac Marjal
On 10/12/2021 12:21, Dan Ritter wrote: Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Jo, 09 dec 21, 09:46:26, Dan Ritter wrote: In a more perfect world, the space for suspension would not otherwise be treated as swap space. It still has to be reserved from somewhere, and swap appears to be the logical choice for

Re: upgrade - packages have been kept back

2021-12-10 Thread Reco
Hi. On Fri, Dec 10, 2021 at 09:04:25AM +0100, teamas...@mad-hatters-teatime.teanet.org wrote: > On Thu, 9 Dec 2021 23:09:34 + > "Andrew M.A. Cater" wrote: > > > On Thu, Dec 09, 2021 at 11:58:33PM +0100, > > teamas...@mad-hatters-teatime.teanet.org wrote: > > > hey, > > > i have not

Re: using pam-ldap to allow ssh logins from only *some* ldap accounts (and not all)

2021-12-10 Thread Alex Mestiashvili
On 12/10/21 12:31 PM, charlie derr wrote: Hi again everyone, Having gotten an excellent (and quite simple) response to my query about automatic homedir creation upon ssh login, i'm going to push my luck (expecting @ any moment to receive responses with RTFM or somethings close to that

Re: Reasonably simple setup for 1TB HDD and 250GB M.2 NVMe SSD

2021-12-10 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 10 dec 21, 07:21:37, Dan Ritter wrote: > Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > On Jo, 09 dec 21, 09:46:26, Dan Ritter wrote: > > > > > > In a more perfect world, the space for suspension would not > > > otherwise be treated as swap space. > > > > It still has to be reserved from somewhere, and swap

Re: Reasonably simple setup for 1TB HDD and 250GB M.2 NVMe SSD

2021-12-10 Thread Dan Ritter
Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Jo, 09 dec 21, 09:46:26, Dan Ritter wrote: > > > > In a more perfect world, the space for suspension would not > > otherwise be treated as swap space. > > It still has to be reserved from somewhere, and swap appears to be the > logical choice for that. No, it was a

Re: using pam-ldap to allow ssh logins from only *some* ldap accounts (and not all)

2021-12-10 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Fri, Dec 10, 2021 at 11:31:55AM +, charlie derr wrote: > Hi again everyone, > > Having gotten an excellent (and quite simple) response to my query about > automatic homedir creation upon ssh login, i'm going to push my luck > (expecting @ any moment to receive responses with RTFM or

Re: Firefox ESR EOL

2021-12-10 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Fri, Dec 10, 2021 at 11:03:50AM +0100, Christian Britz wrote: > > > On 2021-12-10 10:25 UTC+0100, Eric S Fraga wrote: > > Indeed, and with absolutely no appreciation for the effort put in by all > > of you Debian folk. Especially in having "stable" *mean* stable! > Indeed! For those who

Re: unkown root password and mkdir problem.

2021-12-10 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 05 nov 21, 19:17:11, Thomas George wrote: > > I have used sudo successfully with many commands including mkdir but sudo > tar fails to uncompress files because it cannot make the necessary > directories. That is sudo tar runs but must use mkdir which fails. In such cases you might want to

Re: Problème de lenteur sur un réseau local

2021-12-10 Thread NoSpam
Bonjour Le 10/12/2021 à 11:06, informati...@billard-francois-marie.eu a écrit : Bonjour Pas la moindre amélioration même en étant connecté directement sur le switch le problème semble venir du serveur mais quoi. Lancer top et/ou ntop afin de vérifier la charge Le Jeudi, Décembre 09, 2021

using pam-ldap to allow ssh logins from only *some* ldap accounts (and not all)

2021-12-10 Thread charlie derr
Hi again everyone, Having gotten an excellent (and quite simple) response to my query about automatic homedir creation upon ssh login, i'm going to push my luck (expecting @ any moment to receive responses with RTFM or somethings close to that sentiment in them). Our goal is to allow not just

Re: Debian and FSF docs (was: Man pages for gcc)

2021-12-10 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 31 oct 21, 17:37:10, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > This is because GNU releases their documentation under a different license > > than their source code. And Debian considers the GNU documentation > > license to be non-free (rightly so, because it prohibits distributing > > modified versions).

Re: Man pages for gcc

2021-12-10 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 07 nov 21, 08:08:51, Emanuel Berg wrote: > Paul M. Foster wrote: > > > Folks: > > > > I'm sure everyone but me knows this, but I can't find a man > > page for gcc. > > Everyone knows it ... but this question has still been asked > one zillion times. I personally do not mind one bit you

Re: LXQT desktop environment hangs?

2021-12-10 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 01 nov 21, 07:58:09, Eric S Fraga wrote: > On Sunday, 31 Oct 2021 at 09:17, piorunz wrote: > > Nah. Problem is your computer, not Firefox. > > Rather dismissive? > > Everything else on this "slow" computer (yes, it's old but has 4 > dual-core Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-1620 v2 @ 3.70GHz

Re: Correct way to build in-tree module?

2021-12-10 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Jo, 28 oct 21, 10:57:39, Matt Ventura wrote: > Hi, > > I'd like to build a module that is in-tree, but not enabled by the Debian > kernel by default (module 'pmbus', selected by CONFIG_PMBUS). I would rather > not build an entire custom kernel just for one module. > > Most of the resources

Re: Problème de lenteur sur un réseau local

2021-12-10 Thread informatique
Merci pour les pistes uniquement en réseau local pas de ping sur l'extérieur. Un arrêt du serveur web ne semble pas changer la donne. Je vais profiter du week-end pour faire des tests uniquement sur le côté serveur. Le Vendredi, Décembre 10, 2021 11:30 CET, "ajh-valmer" a écrit:  On Friday 10

Re: Clarification Re: Customizing Grub menus

2021-12-10 Thread Brian
On Thu 09 Dec 2021 at 09:09:42 -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 12/08/2021 06:33 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: > > I have a machine set aside for experimenting with different > > configurations of Debian. The default Grub2 menu will display OS(with > > version) and partition designation in /dev/sdXY

Re: Firefox ESR EOL

2021-12-10 Thread Anssi Saari
piorunz writes: > https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item=Web-Browser-Packages-Debian They mention the Thunderbird situation as well. Looks like the Thunderbird Debian package has 22 open security issue and is version 78.14 in stable. As I've found an AppImage of Librewolf as a

Re: What is libc5-i686 | lib32gcc1 (for proliant)

2021-12-10 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 26 oct 21, 20:11:25, Alessandro Vesely wrote: > Hi all, > > I have a .deb package from HP (hp-health) that has this requirement, and > doesn't install because of it. It got damaged somehow during the last > dist-upgrade. I think I'd better re-install it. Do you have a typo in your

Re: Firefox ESR EOL

2021-12-10 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Thu, Dec 09, 2021 at 05:51:49PM -0500, Michael Castellon wrote: easier than this? You're comparing apples and oranges, here, because your solution (which is perfectly fine, by the way, for those who are happy with it: I do something very similar for myself) doesn't compile Firefox from

Re: Problème de lenteur sur un réseau local

2021-12-10 Thread ajh-valmer
On Friday 10 December 2021 11:06:24 informati...@billard-francois-marie.eu wrote: > Pas la moindre amélioration même en étant connecté directement sur le switch > le problème semble venir du serveur mais quoi. Serveur DNS trop sollicité (ou attaqué), serveur DHCP ? Y a t-il un serveur proxy ?

Re: Reboot hangs on Debian 11: gnome-session-manager@gnome.service: Failed with result 'timeout'

2021-12-10 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Jo, 09 dec 21, 21:33:29, Tobias Boesch wrote: > Hello Debian Team, > > I would like to report a bug at Debian, but I don't know which package > I should use for the report. Please help me categorise this problem. > > I run Debian 11 with systemd (247.3-6) and I experience services > timeouts

Re: Update Debian 9 to 10

2021-12-10 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Jo, 09 dec 21, 13:12:15, David Wright wrote: > On Thu 09 Dec 2021 at 19:22:17 (+0200), Thanos Katsiolis wrote: > > > Indeed, in order to update I opened the terminal and started the procedure > > described in Release notes (terminal was the only running program). > > It is the first time I

Re: Update Debian 9 to 10

2021-12-10 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Jo, 09 dec 21, 16:39:52, Thanos Katsiolis wrote: > Hello, > > I followed the Release notes > for > Debian 10, in order to update from Debian 9 to Debian 10. After running > > apt-get upgrade > > I ran > > apt full-upgrade >

Re: Firefox ESR EOL

2021-12-10 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 10 dec 21, 07:46:34, Christian Britz wrote: > On 2021-12-09 19:09 UTC+0100, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 9, 2021, 7:01 AM Christian Britz > > wrote: > > > > Security is the reason why I download and install browser and mail > > client

Re: Problème de lenteur sur un réseau local

2021-12-10 Thread informatique
Bonjour Pas la moindre amélioration même en étant connecté directement sur le switch le problème semble venir du serveur mais quoi. Le Jeudi, Décembre 09, 2021 18:23 CET, NoSpam a écrit:  Bonsoir Le 09/12/2021 à 18:20, Billard François-Marie a écrit : > Bonsoir, > > je dispose d'un réseau

Re: Firefox ESR EOL

2021-12-10 Thread Christian Britz
On 2021-12-10 10:25 UTC+0100, Eric S Fraga wrote: > Indeed, and with absolutely no appreciation for the effort put in by all > of you Debian folk. Especially in having "stable" *mean* stable! I love Debian and I appreciate the work of the developers, but I don't like stability in the sense of

Re: Firefox ESR EOL

2021-12-10 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Jo, 09 dec 21, 23:24:11, Marco Möller wrote: > > It's a pity that Debian cannot be flexible to offer more secure and already > available binary versions of software for the assumed many users only caring > for installing a binary from the official Debian repository on some very > typical PC

Re: Reasonably simple setup for 1TB HDD and 250GB M.2 NVMe SSD

2021-12-10 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Jo, 09 dec 21, 09:46:26, Dan Ritter wrote: > > In a more perfect world, the space for suspension would not > otherwise be treated as swap space. It still has to be reserved from somewhere, and swap appears to be the logical choice for that. Kind regards, Andrei --

Re: Firefox ESR EOL

2021-12-10 Thread Eric S Fraga
On Thursday, 9 Dec 2021 at 20:44, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > Too many comments there are just Debian-bashing with no real understanding. Indeed, and with absolutely no appreciation for the effort put in by all of you Debian folk. Especially in having "stable" *mean* stable! Thank you all. --

Re: Reasonably simple setup for 1TB HDD and 250GB M.2 NVMe SSD

2021-12-10 Thread Darac Marjal
On 10/12/2021 04:53, David Wright wrote: On Thu 09 Dec 2021 at 17:12:01 (-), Curt wrote: On 2021-12-09, hdv@gmail wrote: Swap is where a laptop stores RAM during suspend-to-disk, the long term hibernation suspension. Without at least as much swap as RAM, you are limited to

Re: Refusal to receive emails from Debian-user Mailing List • debian-user@lists.debian.org

2021-12-10 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Fri, Dec 10, 2021 at 08:32:52AM +0800, Edgar Villanueva Jr wrote: > Good morning ! I have tried the Debian buster 10 and it's okay though I > have to do some research about how to configure it. > > Thank you  for your help when answering our questions but not I'd like to > emphasize that I

Re: netstat opvolger heet show_socket

2021-12-10 Thread Richard Lucassen
On Thu, 9 Dec 2021 19:23:24 +0100 Geert Stappers wrote: > > "netstat" zit er tegenwoordig niet meer standaard in > > De opvolger is `ss`, dump socket statistics. > Mijn ezelsbrug is "show socket" Ja, maar netstat zit hardcoded in mijn vingers :) > > (net zoals ifconfig en dat soort

Re: After upgrade from 10 to 11, 63 broken packages and aptitude never finishes.

2021-12-10 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Jo, 09 dec 21, 18:37:02, A. F. Cano wrote: > On Thu, Dec 09, 2021 at 07:44:09PM +0100, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > On Du, 05 dec 21, 18:08:35, A. F. Cano wrote: > > > > > > Something got really messed up during the upgrade. There are broken > > > dependencies and some packages (like some vim

Re: upgrade - packages have been kept back

2021-12-10 Thread john doe
On 12/10/2021 9:04 AM, teamas...@mad-hatters-teatime.teanet.org wrote: On Thu, 9 Dec 2021 23:09:34 + "Andrew M.A. Cater" wrote: On Thu, Dec 09, 2021 at 11:58:33PM +0100, teamas...@mad-hatters-teatime.teanet.org wrote: hey, i have not been using debian for long and not sure how to proceed

Re: upgrade - packages have been kept back

2021-12-10 Thread teamaster
On Thu, 9 Dec 2021 23:09:34 + "Andrew M.A. Cater" wrote: > On Thu, Dec 09, 2021 at 11:58:33PM +0100, > teamas...@mad-hatters-teatime.teanet.org wrote: > > hey, > > i have not been using debian for long and not sure how to proceed > > here. is a: > > apt-get upgrade linux-image-amd64 > > the